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2 minutes ago, bens197 said:

It felt like a completely new putter…in a very good way.  Admittedly my MEZZ is good as-is, but if there is something better, it’s worth the $30-40 attempt.

The swap made a huge difference for me.  

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1 hour ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Where are you setting up the ball? Typical wisdom is close to a driver setup and so if you are right handed think of having the ball just inside your left heel. Try to get the tip of the shaft in the center of your stance.

 

IMO, providing a foot reference is not a great indicator.  How far apart are your feet versus his feet?  Upper body references are generally better.  

Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :callaway-logo-1: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL  16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
Putter:   more-golf-logo.png Render w/VA Composites Baddazz 

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On 10/6/2024 at 12:50 PM, cnosil said:

IMO, providing a foot reference is not a great indicator.  How far apart are your feet versus his feet?  Upper body references are generally better.  

Regarding alignment and an upper body reference, I use my nose and have it aligned between where the shaft enters the head and the ball-picker-upper hole. Please note that I am right eye dominant, so when I photograph my setup, my nose is actually directly above where the shaft enters the head or even a little in-front of that point (real vs. feel).

@tincupflipper - I had a similar issue, but my trouble distance was 6-10 ft. I've found that it has improved with three things: 1. A focus on straight back, straight through stroke, 2. hitting the putt with confidence and not being upset if they miss, 3. Using an alignment aid on the ball that suites the putter alignment aid and me.

To elaborate on those points, For number 1. I try to think of this video from LAB:

For 2. I found I was always trying to die the putts into the hole from 6-10 ft for some reason and also getting very upset when they didn't go in. It turns out that within this range of putts is the 50/50 point for PGA tour pros, so I do not need to be upset and it's ok if I miss a couple of feet past the hole.

For 3. With my DF3's alignment aid, I've found that I can align a ball with a wider alignment aid better than just a single line or single line of text (think TM Tour Response or Callaway Triple Track). Not only does this fit my putter better, but also goes with number 2 and adds confidence.

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Driver:  Cobragolflogo.png.602fb363b272aeca0ae57ab591da02de.png LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff)

Fairway metals:  TITLEIST_logo_15px.png.86858562876473681822bdce0336ecd4.png 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S)

Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S)

Irons:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0)

Wedges:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S)

Putter: LABLogo_25px.png.d348c70a35f07dfed1742feb45210a2f.png DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24

Ball:   Vice_logo.png.282566e7be35424dbb3a5d3359e6385f.png pro drip: red & blue | MAXFLI_logo_15px.png.137df4bf59bf3628d99abc6ca08fd43f.png Tour S

Pushcart:  clicgear_logo.png.5569d627daa35e79384784c8a4e886f4.png 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here

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Oh hey - I know these people!

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Big shout-out to the MGS staff for this awesome partnership!!!

 

Driver: image.png.ca83f4e6716da9276cf90826f633daca.png Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff

Fairways:  image.png.c4f821ba6925e5e146c31600685bf103.png Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff

Hybrid:  image.png.c21137d282a252fb544e47aceb520176.png King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff

Irons:  image.png.6621a18e06b1717c1f774c4a561fd7d8.png Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff

Wedges:  images (1).pngHaywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58)

Putter:   download.png.d49e715a77153bd649b58a0d4e33fab5.pngL.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie")

Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour

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L.A.B. DF3

Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing

Callaway Paradym

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Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5

 

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That’s a great video from LAB. The explanation with the visual is cool. 

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3W:  IMG_1282.jpeg.5aa87f97d80bcf4ae3205107fd0a6add.jpeg G430 MAX 15° (backordered!!)
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3 & 5Hy:  IMG_1282.jpeg.5aa87f97d80bcf4ae3205107fd0a6add.jpeg G430 19° & 26°
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5-PW:  image.png.e76c3a80e959f4571ac9d38b658506a0.png 699 v2
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Wedges:  image.png.bddbadf2cd48c1b40cf591e520848ebb.png MAX milled 50° (bent to 48°), 54°, 58°
     Mitsu Kuro Kage Black 2G S/R
Putter:  image.jpeg.4a8b0ee0fbff31934a2e15fc68a7bfe7.jpeg King Supernova 20
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Ball:  image.png.10667a299706a9d7d3afd32e78f27847.png Pro Soft
Bag: image.png.1645cda6e679afe5a2659ddb2ecb59d1.png  C130

 

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2 hours ago, CFreddie said:

Oh hey - I know these people!

Screenshot2024-10-08at10_03_38AM.png.eb8271fb338226f37af3e00d85500481.png

Big shout-out to the MGS staff for this awesome partnership!!!

Beat me to it!  I just got a chance to sit down and check email and it popped up!  Awesome partnership built. 

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 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

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3 hours ago, CFreddie said:

Oh hey - I know these people!

Screenshot2024-10-08at10_03_38AM.png.eb8271fb338226f37af3e00d85500481.png

Big shout-out to the MGS staff for this awesome partnership!!!

Is there a link to an article? I didn't get the email!

WITB (link to detailed post here):

Driver:  Cobragolflogo.png.602fb363b272aeca0ae57ab591da02de.png LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff)

Fairway metals:  TITLEIST_logo_15px.png.86858562876473681822bdce0336ecd4.png 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S)

Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S)

Irons:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0)

Wedges:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S)

Putter: LABLogo_25px.png.d348c70a35f07dfed1742feb45210a2f.png DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24

Ball:   Vice_logo.png.282566e7be35424dbb3a5d3359e6385f.png pro drip: red & blue | MAXFLI_logo_15px.png.137df4bf59bf3628d99abc6ca08fd43f.png Tour S

Pushcart:  clicgear_logo.png.5569d627daa35e79384784c8a4e886f4.png 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here

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5 minutes ago, jbern said:

Is there a link to an article? I didn't get the email!

The link is to the forum recap @GolfSpy_APH posted recently - https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/l-a-b-golf-the-science-of-the-forum-review/?utm_source=klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20241008_mgsforumtestdf3_labrats (01J3ZCYD62ZMYEKDXKDH6FQHHZ)&_kx=9LYt-Flidb8rB6-kVwU9uIj963UkZL00VBo5zQ0uCVw.WtQZpN

Here is the text to the article:

For a long time, we wanted to do a test where golfers test L.A.B. Golf putters for several months and record data along the way. 

A test like this would do a lot to support what we see and hear from golfers around the world... that using L.A.B. Golf putters over a long period of time actually improves your stroke. And we did it!

MyGolfSpy has just published a recap of its DF3 Forum Member Test, and the feedback of these golfers is fascinating and insightful. 

Unlike conventional putter tests, this review includes a treasure trove of data the testers gathered from Sam PuttLab to Quintic to ExPutt.

There's also Strokes Gained: Putting data from software like Arccos. You could spend all day reading the entire 46-page forum thread!

These MyGolfSpy Forum members unanimously agreed that the L.A.B. DF3 made them better putters. And unlike other putter tests, there's data to prove it!

Edited by CFreddie

 

Driver: image.png.ca83f4e6716da9276cf90826f633daca.png Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff

Fairways:  image.png.c4f821ba6925e5e146c31600685bf103.png Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff

Hybrid:  image.png.c21137d282a252fb544e47aceb520176.png King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff

Irons:  image.png.6621a18e06b1717c1f774c4a561fd7d8.png Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff

Wedges:  images (1).pngHaywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58)

Putter:   download.png.d49e715a77153bd649b58a0d4e33fab5.pngL.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie")

Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour

Reviews: 

L.A.B. DF3

Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing

Callaway Paradym

Titleist White Box Testing (2023)

Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5

 

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40 minutes ago, CFreddie said:

The link is to the forum recap @GolfSpy_APH posted recently - https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/l-a-b-golf-the-science-of-the-forum-review/?utm_source=klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20241008_mgsforumtestdf3_labrats (01J3ZCYD62ZMYEKDXKDH6FQHHZ)&_kx=9LYt-Flidb8rB6-kVwU9uIj963UkZL00VBo5zQ0uCVw.WtQZpN

Here is the text to the article:

For a long time, we wanted to do a test where golfers test L.A.B. Golf putters for several months and record data along the way. 

A test like this would do a lot to support what we see and hear from golfers around the world... that using L.A.B. Golf putters over a long period of time actually improves your stroke. And we did it!

MyGolfSpy has just published a recap of its DF3 Forum Member Test, and the feedback of these golfers is fascinating and insightful. 

Unlike conventional putter tests, this review includes a treasure trove of data the testers gathered from Sam PuttLab to Quintic to ExPutt.

There's also Strokes Gained: Putting data from software like Arccos. You could spend all day reading the entire 46-page forum thread!

These MyGolfSpy Forum members unanimously agreed that the L.A.B. DF3 made them better putters. And unlike other putter tests, there's data to prove it!

Thank you @CFreddie! Awesome that they sent out the email and great write-up by @GolfSpy SAM!!

WITB (link to detailed post here):

Driver:  Cobragolflogo.png.602fb363b272aeca0ae57ab591da02de.png LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff)

Fairway metals:  TITLEIST_logo_15px.png.86858562876473681822bdce0336ecd4.png 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S)

Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S)

Irons:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0)

Wedges:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S)

Putter: LABLogo_25px.png.d348c70a35f07dfed1742feb45210a2f.png DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24

Ball:   Vice_logo.png.282566e7be35424dbb3a5d3359e6385f.png pro drip: red & blue | MAXFLI_logo_15px.png.137df4bf59bf3628d99abc6ca08fd43f.png Tour S

Pushcart:  clicgear_logo.png.5569d627daa35e79384784c8a4e886f4.png 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here

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6 hours ago, jbern said:

Thank you @CFreddie! Awesome that they sent out the email and great write-up by @GolfSpy SAM!!

Speaking of that write-up, I'm a L.A.B. Rat and guess what I got in my Email today?

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From the Email: Unlike conventional putter tests, this review includes a treasure trove of data the testers gathered from Sam PuttLab to Quintic to ExPutt.

There's also Strokes Gained: Putting data from software like Arccos. You could spend all day reading the entire 46-page forum thread!

These MyGolfSpy Forum members unanimously agreed that the L.A.B. DF3 made them better putters. And unlike other putter tests, there's data to prove it!

Then it links to the recap directly...which links to the forum directly. Soooooooooo. Kudos to everyone in the test. It appears you wrote professionally enough for L.A.B. marketing to notice!

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Cobra Aerojet LS 10* | Taylor Made Mini Driver 13.5* | Callaway Utility Wood 17* and 21* | Haywood CB/MB combo set (4-7 CB; 8-PW MB) | Edison 2.0 wedges 51*, 57* | LAB DF2.1 Broomstick 50” | Transrover bag

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who just saw the release of the limited color purple.....

 

 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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8 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

who just saw the release of the limited color purple.....

 

I just saw that. It begs the question, who would have chosen that color? 🤔

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:PXG: 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3

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:callaway-logo-1: Paradym X 6 - AW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test

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2 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

I just saw that. It begs the question, who would have chosen that color? 🤔

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Just confirmed i could switch.  Bit of a pain with a refund and reorder but won't lose my spot in production that should happen this week. 

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 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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33 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

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Just confirmed i could switch.  Bit of a pain with a refund and reorder but won't lose my spot in production that should happen this week. 

That is awesome! I hope it looks as vibrant as the photo!

Purple and THIS GUY do not get along 😆

WITB (link to detailed post here):

Driver:  Cobragolflogo.png.602fb363b272aeca0ae57ab591da02de.png LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff)

Fairway metals:  TITLEIST_logo_15px.png.86858562876473681822bdce0336ecd4.png 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S)

Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.e8b8454bf242754d2326ecb0a719cd30.png4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S)

Irons:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0)

Wedges:   Sub70.png.5f7ea5565c2690f7d237f327e2e5238a.png 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S)

Putter: LABLogo_25px.png.d348c70a35f07dfed1742feb45210a2f.png DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24

Ball:   Vice_logo.png.282566e7be35424dbb3a5d3359e6385f.png pro drip: red & blue | MAXFLI_logo_15px.png.137df4bf59bf3628d99abc6ca08fd43f.png Tour S

Pushcart:  clicgear_logo.png.5569d627daa35e79384784c8a4e886f4.png 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here

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1 minute ago, jbern said:

That is awesome! I hope it looks as vibrant as the photo!

Purple and THIS GUY do not get along 😆

From talking to CS, it's a deep purple and should look good.  I was going to go with green originally but with this being a limited color and the way club values are, I figured why not go with the purple.

 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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17 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

From talking to CS, it's a deep purple and should look good.  I was going to go with green originally but with this being a limited color and the way club values are, I figured why not go with the purple.

I am actually digging the purple! Purple looks great when it's done right and LAB looks like they know how to do it right.

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Driver:  :taylormade-small: Qi10 Max 10.5°

Hybrid: 🐏 FX Max 25°, :titleist-small: Tsi2 21°

4i-9i: 🐏 FX Max 10

Wedges: :vokey-small: SM10 - 50° 12f, 54° 14f, 58° 14k

Putter:  :mizuno-small: M.Craft Type VI

Ball: :vice: Pro Air

Bag: Ghost Golf Maverick 14-Way 

Glove: Nexgen Nano-X Pro Tour+

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Just now, Michael.Sandoval33 said:

I am actually digging the purple! Purple looks great when it's done right and LAB looks like they know how to do it right.

I'm rolling with it.  White SuperStroke 17 grip, black Accra Shaft and Purple head.

 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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On 4/15/2024 at 7:04 AM, jbern said:

Introduction

Thank you to L.A.B. Golf and the MGS Forum for this unbelievable opportunity to test the new L.A.B. DF3 putter!

As a husband and father of 3 young children (Ages are 6, 4 and 1.5 years old) my main job is reading children’s books in funny voices and expertly applying superglue and packaging tape to broken toys! I have a side gig in building creative (and mostly safe) obstacle courses for the kids to jump around on. As a family, we also like going on hikes and bike rides. The photo below is from a local hike that has a viewing/learning area about farms and crops and their various growth stages (my wife and I decided not to put our kids on any social media, so you’ll just get the backs of their heads 😆)

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We live in an area of Southern Michigan that is known for having a lot of lakes, so we try to spend a lot of time in and around the water (in the summertime☀️) in this beautiful area. It's also a great area for golf and there are at least 12 golf courses within 20 minutes.

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My day job is working as an electrical protection engineer for generating facilities throughout the state of Michigan, protecting the people and equipment within the facilities. It’s an incredibly interesting job and I’ve enjoyed it for the last 10 years!

As far as golfing goes, I started golf when I was 14 and played on the H.S. golf team. My peak handicap was 5 during that time. After high school I almost never golfed, playing 7 times over 15 years. I got hooked again in the fall of 2021 and haven’t looked back. I got my first ever fitting in the fall of ’22. I’m a proud member of the pushcart mafia and walk every chance I get (check out the Clicgear 4.0 review thread; in ‘23, I had lower scores when walking)!

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I’ve put in quite a bit of practice to get my HCP from 17 in ’21 to my current HCP of 7.4. Putting has improved, but my golf game has traditionally gone as my driver goes and putting has always been my biggest weakness. Being a weak putter, L.A.B. golf putters have been of obvious interest to me, and there seems to be excitement around these putters in everyone from professionals to weekend warriors.  I love that they're using technology and engineering to try to make putting easier. I’ve had about 100 different combinations of L.A.B. putters in my cart over the past year or so! That being said, I have never rolled a single putt with a L.A.B. putter… yet!

I did a putter fitting in '22 and it was based on my static measurements and my putting stroke style. My putting stroke is straight-back straight-through so they recommended a mallet, face-balanced putter that is 33.25" long putter with a lie angle of 69*. We'll see what LAB recommends via their online fitting!

My current gamer putter is a Sub70 AL-6 armlock putter that is 39.5" long with a lie angle of 72*. I did an unofficial review last year of the putter and switching to armlock. You can see the review here. I had significant improvement switching to armlock!

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VS.

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Over the course of this test, I plan on putting the LAB DF3 through it’s paces in 3 main ways:

  1. The key testing method is going to be on the course. Before switching to the AL-6 armlock, my average putts per round was 38.7 putts. With the armlock putter over the last 9 months my average putts per round is 34.1. Will the LAB DF3 improve my putts per round? I’m going to keep more detailed records on my putting than ever before (e.g. length of putt, make/miss, long/short, left/right, confidence over putt).
  2. Tempo has been something that I’ve struggled with, so it’s what I practice most at home and so far that has consisted of rolling putts in my living room using a ruler to gauge my takeaway length and a mirror to keep setup consistent. This setup is easy, has worked and I’d like to see how quickly I establish a good tempo with the DF3.
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  3. I will also be using the EXputt putting simulator, which should be arriving any day now, to compare my armlock putter stroke to the DF3 and get data on face, path, and speed control.
    1. As a side test, I’m hoping to go to a true putter fitting experience and get their thoughts on the DF3 vs. my gamer armlock AL-6 putter.

I also want to answer the following questions:

  • How long does it take to get used to the L.A.B. style of putting?
  • Is going from armlock style to L.A.B. style more difficult than my transition from normal to armlock?
  • Do I like the looks/feel/sound of the putter?
  • How was the fitting and ordering process?

Thanks again to the MGS Forum staff and L.A.B. Golf! Let us know if you have any questions that you’d like answered throughout this test!

Fitting Experience

In order to be fit properly for a L.A.B. putter, length and lie angle are critical. LAB has a system on their website (with detailed instructions) to submit videos of a single putting stroke online (video should be 3-5 seconds). From there, they analyze the video and provide fitting results via email. Our fitting results were delayed because of a hiccup in the computer system where they lost all video submittals. My fitting results took 12 days to receive. Below is the video I submitted:

My fitting results came back with a length of 32.5" and a lie of 70*. At this point, I was able to respond back to the fitters at LAB with all of my questions. I had questions about the counterbalance option, alignment aids, shaft options, grip options, and the fact that 32.5" length is unusually short for someone 5'9". Their responses were quick and thorough! To sum up the replies, because my gamer putter is an armlock that has a putter head weight of 400g, they recommended the heavy head and the counterbalance option. The TPT shaft was recommended because it's the best at removing inconsistencies most golfers struggle with. For alignment lines, LAB replied that they are personal preference and can be combined if they don't overlap. I knew that I wanted lines from front to back, but also wanted something unique. See the final result below.

Unboxing/Initial Photos

The counterbalance option with the TPT shaft and Garsen Quad Tour 17 grip I spec’d out at 36.5" long and 70* lie angle. I decided on the blue DF3 color, with alignment lines: I (two lines), X (LAB logo), & G (line all the way to the back). This thing looks 🔥!!!

Below is the unboxing video I recorded as fast as possible after receiving the DF3 from FedEx! 

All of the testers decided to name their DF3 putters and I landed on 'Dory' because she's blue (like my DF3), has short term memory loss (necessary attribute for putting), and always finds a way to get things accomplished! Here are the initial photos of Dory right after the Unboxing!

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I cannot wait to get this thing out on the course and put it to the test! 

First Impressions Write-up (16 out of 20):

As you can see from the unboxing video and the photos, this putter looks fantastic! The quality of the putter head manufacturing, color, alignment lines is top notch. From the first time swinging the putter, you can tell that there is something unique about the weighting compared to traditional putters. At address, other than the looks of the putter, my favorite thing is the bottom pad that is manufactured into the putter. This pad allows you to set the putter down and ensure perfect lie angle every time.

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For me, coming from an armlock putter, EVERYTHING about my putting stroke has had to change. The setup (ball forward, tighter stance, arm position), grip (armlock claw to weak traditional), tempo, and follow through all had to change. Because of this, it’s been taking me quite a while to gain confidence, and it’s shown through the first three 9 hole rounds I’ve played so far. My putting stats have been slightly below average and I’m not making putts around 4-7 feet that I usually confidently make. I deducted 4 points since I've had to change my entire putting stroke and I haven't been confident with on course putting.
Lag putting, partly because of the Exputt putting simulator practice and partly because of the nice weighting and feel to the DF3, has been and easy transition and I’m finding long putts to be closer than ever.

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I'm very excited to get this putter out to the course more frequently over the coming weeks and really start to put Dory to work!

Current Putter

As mentioned in my intro, my current putter is the Sub70 AL-6 armlock that is 39.5" long with a lie angle of 72*. My average putts per round with the AL-6 is 34.1 (34.08 actually). This puts me directly in between the 5 hdcp and 10 hdcp stats provided by @Cfhandyman from Arccos. Since my hdcp is 7.4, this makes sense. If I want to lower my handicap, I'll need to improve my putting. This data is a good baseline and it's pretty nice to see it visually on a graph and compare to a statistical giant like Arccos.

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Ongoing on-course updates:

 

  1. LLHGC: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1070252
  2. HHOTL video and
  3. IW https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1079253
  4. HHOTL: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1081291
  5. DR: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1081809
  6. CLGC video and post https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1084305
  7. BOGC: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1086102
  8. DLGC and
  9. HHOTL post and gif: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1090941
  10. HHGC: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1091250

 

The Numbers (35 out of 40):

 

Even though this section could get very complicated very quickly, I’m going to try to keep it as simple as possible. So far, main sources of data are from Exputt  “Analysis” sessions, Exputt practice sessions and on-course putting stat keeping.

Exputt “Analysis” mode is a series of 18 putts of random distance between 5 to 50 feet in length on a perfectly straight, flat putt. At the end of the 18 putts, the software provides your average and standard deviation data for distance, face impact angle and path angle. Below is the screenshot of my scores for all of my Exputt “Analysis” sessions.

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As you can see, with the exception of a scary score of 63.7, the general trend line is WAY up and eventually got to my personal best score of 79.2! During that PB session, my face impact angle average was less than 0.25 degrees and a standard deviation of less than 0.7 for all putts. This just means that my face angle at impact was impressively close to zero.

I also did a detailed Exputt Random distance (5’ to 50’) test, which I copied from @cnosil test of the Sacks Parente putters. Below is a link to the post of the session. I would like to do one or two more of these detailed sessions when I have time (they take a lot of time to log each putt into excel) and I will add a summary of the data from multiple sessions here.

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1078090

On-course Numbers:

From the Ongoing On-course Updates section above, you can see that I logged 10 rounds, most of which were 9 hole rounds. I kept track of the distance, break and if I made the putt or where my miss was. All of this data gathering led to a more simple display of my putting stats with Dory the DF3 in the graphics below:

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Comparing the data from the “Current Putter” section above, my average putts per 18 holes decreased from 34.1 to 31.54. This puts me closely matching a 0 hdcp golfer according to Arccos! I significantly increased the number of one putts per 18 holes from 4.26 to 6.34, which is also in-line with a scratch hdcp. My number of three putts per 18 holes decreased from 2.28 to 1.89.

My make percentages of putts inside of 5ft (96.5%) and 10-15 ft (37.5%) are in-line with tour averages! My make percentage from 5-10 ft of 41% is far less than tour average, which is 51-56% depending on the source. I have also yet to make an on-course “bomb” putt (any putt over 20 ft). I don’t have data from before the DF3 regarding lag putting, but with the DF3 my average leave distance on putts over 20 ft was 3.9 ft. Tour average is 2.8ft according to Golf Digest.

It’s not lost on me that I do not have thousands of putts of data and some of the good and poor numbers could be blips in putting performance. I have also practiced my putting more than ever and in the offseason, I practiced my chipping more than ever. Both of these, I would assume, would lead to better putting statistics.

That being said, the numbers are the numbers and there’s no denying that my putting is better now, with the DF3, than before using the DF3.

I deducted 2 points for the 2-3 poor Exputt performances, 2 points for making 0 putts over 20 ft (so far), and 1 point because my recent overall short game practice likely contributed to better putting statistics.

On the Course (10 out of 10):

 

The best word to describe taking the DF3 to the course is “hype.” Everyone that saw me using it on the practice green came up to chat with me about it and most knew the L.A.B. popularity has been booming! I have never interacted with more strangers on a golf course than I have since receiving the DF3 for this test.

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Another on-course point of interest is confidence. The first two rounds with the DF3, I was really struggling and almost got to the point where I figured the DF3 was not going to work for me. I ended up changing my stance, ball position, putting stroke and putting stroke tempo and things started to fall in place. Once I started to get better Exputt scores I started to notice that in several of my individual on-course recap posts that I may have severely missed a putt, but it wasn’t due to lack of confidence! Once you start rolling the putter well, the confidence over every putt goes up quickly. Out of all putts, I would say I struggled (and have always struggled) with confidence most in the 5-10 ft range. This putting distance is unique because in your head you’re thinking EVERY putt from 5-10ft should be made. In reality that’s not the case, but it still gets into my head. On putts from all other distances, my confidence did not waver after getting used to the DF3.

As for course conditions, I found the DF3 to work best on faster greens. I found myself coming up significantly short or long on slower greens. My best two putting performances were at courses with notably faster green speeds.

I don’t often like to use my putter as a “Texas wedge,” but I did quite frequently for this test. I would say it performed admirably and was not a highlight or lowlight of performance for me. I had the best Texas wedge performance for shots where there was more fairway than green (e.g. if I was 30ft from the hole and 20ft was fairway, 10ft was green).

Below are two videos of my on-course putts for an entire 9 hole round:

 

The Good, the bad, the in-between (18 out of 20):

I think I’ve made it clear throughout my posting history on this thread that it took me quite some time and practice to get used to going from an armlock putter to the DF3. Everything about my putting changed from the start of the testing period. I don’t know that most consumers would take the time and effort to make the changes necessary for the DF3 to improve their performance.

I also mentioned that a lot of strangers approached me wanting to talk about the DF3 and L.A.B. One thing that always came up was the price. When I told them the retail price for my DF3 build and the price of a stock DF3 the responses were mostly “are you kidding me?” I would, of course, bring up all the technology and my putting performance improvements, but it seems like most people that talked with me could not get over the high price tag 🤑. I encouraged them to send in a fitting video to get their L.A.B. fitting specs and then they could look on the used market to save some money. I do believe there is a large subset of golfers, specifically those who don’t put a lot of time into putting practice, who could almost instantly benefit from the L.A.B. technology. Once people held it in their hands, EVERY SINGLE PERSON said something close to “wow, that has a great feel to it!”

As far as durability is concerned, I have no concerns. It should be noted that I treated the putter like a 4th child and ensured it was in the putter cover AT ALL TIMES when it was not in use. I also already applied oil to the putter to keep the shine up. I had a few bits of sand get stuck in the face, but thankfully they have all wiped out with a towel. The Garsen grip is loosing its color around the very tip of the putter from going in and out of my bag. This could probably be avoided with a 14-way full length divider bag.

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One thing I haven’t mentioned much is the TPT shaft. The TPT shaft could be an unsung hero for DF3 putting performance. I’m not an expert on putter shafts, but during the testing period I rented a set of clubs and the putter that was part of the rental set was a Scotty Cameron Futura 5CB with a stock steel shaft. It seriously felt like I was trying to hit nail with a spaghetti noodle instead of a hammer. I could feel the shaft flexing and torquing, especially on the long putts!

I took off 1 point for having to justify the price tag during discussions with strangers and 1 point for the Garsen grip deterioration.

Play it or Trade it (10 out of 10)

It safe to say that Dory, the DF3 is going straight into the bag without question. The blue color, custom alignment lines, premium feel/build quality, TPT shaft and Garsen grip are just fire! Not to mention my putting performance, consistency and confidence have all improved during this testing period and I’m looking forward to more great rounds with the DF3! I will not hesitate to play with it in tournaments and every round for the foreseeable future!

 

Conclusion (TL;DR) [89 out of 100]:

Facts: Putter per 18 holes went from 34.1 to 31.54. One putts per 18 holes went from 4.26 to 6.34. Three putts per 18 holes went down from 2.28 to 1.89. My overall handicap decreased from 7.4 to 6.9. Confidence is up. Swagger is up (well hopefully, there’s not real data around that one! 😂).

It’s not lost on me that these numbers could be from the fact that I’ve put a significant focus on putting during this testing period and a multitude of other factors can contribute to better putting statistics.

The looks, feel, design and build quality are all top notch (so is the ball picker upper😆)!

The general golfing population that talked to me about the putter gawked at the price, but praised the easy, smooth feel once they got it in their hands.

It took me a lot of putting changes and practice to get used to the DF3 and L.A.B. putting style.

I would encourage anyone to give the DF3 a try, and if you’re struggling with it, reach out to LAB for assistance and questions. Their responses were concise and helpful when we were going through the fitting process and they have a desire to help you perform at your best.

Not to mention, it passed the pontoon putt test on the first try 😉:

I am massively considering this putter, but also think it looks odd.  Is it just me?

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, MattWillGolf said:

I just saw that. It begs the question, who would have chosen that color? 🤔

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For me, I would name it Grimace. For at least two reasons.

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:755178188_TourEdge: CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S
:callaway-small: Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S
:755178188_TourEdge: C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S
:touredgeexotics: CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0
:callaway-small: Epic Forged 7 27°
:Sub70: 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW
Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite
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1 minute ago, mpatrickriley said:

For me, I would name it Grimace. For at least two reasons.

Not Purple Rain..

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48 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

Not Purple Rain..

How about Purple Drain?  

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Fairway: :callaway-logo-1: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL  16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
Putter:   more-golf-logo.png Render w/VA Composites Baddazz 

Backup Putters:  Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe,  :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2

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32 minutes ago, cnosil said:

How about Purple Drain?  

Could also work well!  My only thought with purple rain was raining birds but drains works too for that. 

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2 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

Could also work well!  My only thought with purple rain was raining birds but drains works too for that. 

I thought of Prince with the name Purple Rain.  

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Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
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Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
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Purple Birdie Eater?

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Hybrid: 🐏 FX Max 25°, :titleist-small: Tsi2 21°

4i-9i: 🐏 FX Max 10

Wedges: :vokey-small: SM10 - 50° 12f, 54° 14f, 58° 14k

Putter:  :mizuno-small: M.Craft Type VI

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5 hours ago, MattWillGolf said:

I just saw that. It begs the question, who would have chosen that color? 🤔

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I would have chosen it in a heartbeat. 

Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S

3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus,  Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro

Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80

Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4

Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip

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2 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

Could also work well!  My only thought with purple rain was raining birds but drains works too for that. 

The Purple Birdie Machine, because once you get it, birdies will be happening.  You can hang your hat on it.

Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S

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Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80

Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4

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48 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I thought of Prince with the name Purple Rain.  

That's what made me think of Purple Rain originally. 

I almost went white Accra shaft but thought it may be too much 

39 minutes ago, Cfhandyman said:

The Purple Birdie Machine, because once you get it, birdies will be happening.  You can hang your hat on it.

👍 for sure!

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I kinda love the purple if I am honest!

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Wood:    :titleist-small: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's)

Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
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4 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I kinda love the purple if I am honest!

It popped up at the right time. I should be going into production this week and was able to make the change. 

 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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1 hour ago, Josh Parker said:

It popped up at the right time. I should be going into production this week and was able to make the change. 

When did you order Josh? (Im)patiently waiting over here to see the "In Production" note over here...

Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º)  -  Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3

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