JBones Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 In a little less than a month, Tiger will be making his return at Islesworth for the Hero World Challenge. Anybody as excited as I am? Tiger just brings a different element to watching golf. I hope he comes back full strength and we get to see he and Rory duking it out on top of leaderboards. Tiger Woods. Isleworth. Hero World Challenge. See you there! pic.twitter.com/tlXrI2r6Ls— TW Foundation (@TWFoundation) September 15, 2014 Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If he's healthy and has his mind right i see no reason why he cant have a season like he did in 2013 Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted November 6, 2014 SPY VIP Share Posted November 6, 2014 2 words Grand Slam Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 2 words Grand Slam That's a joke right Dan? Not a chance! Tiger may still win a few tournaments here and there, but I can't see him winning on a consistent basis again. Having said that, I'd be happy to be proven wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted November 6, 2014 SPY VIP Share Posted November 6, 2014 Oh were we talking about tiger? Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'd love to see him have a good season. He's just good for the game, no matter how you feel about him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'd love to see him have a good season. He's just good for the game, no matter how you feel about him personally. Gotta admit I've kinda developed a soft spot for Tiger and his past troubles over the years. It seems that post accident/scandal he's kind of lost his hubris, which is what made him behave the way he did, but also gave him that aura of invincibility on the course. He's still a great player - now one of many. Think his struggles at the majors are health related or head related? What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Gotta admit I've kinda developed a soft spot for Tiger and his past troubles over the years. It seems that post accident/scandal he's kind of lost his hubris, which is what made him behave the way he did, but also gave him that aura of invincibility on the course. He's still a great player - now one of many. Think his struggles at the majors are health related or head related? I think it's just been a little bad luck that's gotten into his head. We've seen him play great in majors but then have one bad hole and it's down the tubes. The drop from the masters that caused his two strokes was a big one. If not for that he may have had a shot at winning. Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I think it's a combination of both. I know how my own problems have affected me on the golf course. You don't think they do, but they definitely do! I think he can come back and win a few more majors if he can get healthy and enough time has passed from his off course problem/s. It aint like he can't play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverickping Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 As a fan of golf I'm all for having the best be in the mix come Sunday. I think TW will be back and ready to compete. The one common denominator in all athletes is their competitive juices and I can see TW being very motivated this year which bodes well for people like myself; fans of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBones Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Who all is tuning in for this today? I will be. Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Who all is tuning in for this today? I will be. Already set my DVR, work productivity is going to take a down turn today. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Have it recorded at home so NO SPOILERS PLEASE! Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Anyone see First Take on ESPN this morning? Skip and Stephen A. were NOT kind to the new Tiger. Skip: Tiger has turned into the world's greatest used car salesmen when it comes to selling us on the new and improved Tiger and his chances of winning majors. Stephen A: Tiger's not a winner anymore. Mercy! What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBones Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Those guys are hack "shock jocks", theres a reason why they are disliked. How they have a show on ESPN is beyond me. Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Anyone see First Take on ESPN this morning? Skip and Stephen A. were NOT kind to the new Tiger. Skip: Tiger has turned into the world's greatest used car salesmen when it comes to selling us on the new and improved Tiger and his chances of winning majors. Stephen A: Tiger's not a winner anymore. Mercy! ouch! looks like he's peppering the spectators OUTSIDE the course boundaries at the moment ... maybe he should've tried the stock driver afterall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Might not have been a bad idea... Never mind Tiger's new instructor. Here's what you need to know about the new equipment he'll be playing at IsleworthBy Keely Levins It has been well chronicled that when Tiger Woods tees off Thursday at the Hero World Challenge, it will be his first competitive round with new swing instructor/consultant Chris Como. Less well known is that it will also be his first competitive round with most of the equipment he's expecting to have in his bag. Nothing is official until he steps on the first tee, but it's highly likely Woods will be using new woods, irons and a new golf ball from when he last played at the PGA Championship in August. The only clubs he isn't expected to change are his wedges and putter. Below are some of the details on his new equipment, which Tiger offered substantial input with during the R&D process. "That to me is fun, testing product," Woods said during a Nike press event in August. "Especially when I'm playing well. I think that is the best time to test. ... You always want to test when you are playing great, because obviously you can see the differences." Clearly he's feeling confident about all of the new gear because there are a lot of changes to his bag. Company officials are touring this as "the first time in Nike history that he has put this much new equipment in play in one week." Ball: RZN Black. This is a big change for Tiger. For the last five years, he's been playing a version of the One Tour D that had been specifically made for him. The core of the RZN is waffle-shaped and made out of a resin polymer that interlocks with the mantle layer. The One Tour D has a synthetic rubber core. Resin is lighter than rubber, which means Tiger is playing a ball that is structurally quite different than what he's been playing for half a decade. Driver: Vapor Speed prototype, Mitsubishi Diamana Blue Board 93x shaft. The drive has a 420 cubic-centimeter clubhead and has 10.5 degrees of loft, a big change from the 9.5-degree driver he was playing most recently. And there were times in the last couple years that he's played an 8.5-degree model. His driver is also glued in, which is different from the adjustable version that will be sold at retail. (Photos of Tiger's driver: Nike) Fairway Woods: Vapor Speed 3- and 5-wood The biggest innovation in these clubs is stability. Two thin pieces of stainless steel run through the cavity -- called Fly Beams -- to add support and stiffness to the back cavity, something Tiger specifically looks for in his clubs. The compression channel in the fairway woods is similar to the one used in the VR series, but it's varied in width and depth. Irons: Vapor Pro One of the biggest alterations made in the development of these irons from the previous ones Tiger had used was moving some of the weight toward the toe. This shift in the center of gravity came from studying the wear pattern on Tiger's clubs. The ball was hitting the middle of the clubface -- which sounds ideal -- but the majority of the clubhead's weight was in the heel. Nike R&D officials wanted to get more of the mass behind the ball (for Tiger and those of his ability level, that would be the center of the face). In early trials, they drilled holes in the toe of Tiger's blades and filled them with tungsten, a heavier metal. "We had this idea, if we moved the CG towards the center of the face that it would have more impact and more mass right behind the ball," Tiger explained on Nike's website. "And it worked. I was able to hit the ball a little bit further, it came off more solid, and the amazing thing is the ball flew better." Nike moved on from the tungsten plugs, and calls its final iteration "Modern Muscle technology." The new geometry produces the same result as the plugs, without using tungsten. The change in his clubs, coupled with the changes in Woods' swing, seems to be a part of a new Tiger -- or at least a different Tiger -- one that age and injury has forced him to become. "We all have to make adaptations as athletes, and we have to make adjustments," Woods said Tuesday. "And I'm no different. As I've explained to you guys many times, [it's] like when M.J. [Michael Jordan] created a fadeaway. He couldn't jump over everybody anymore, and he created a new way to score and get points. I'm the same way. I can't blow it out there with some of the longer guys anymore. ... But there's other ways to go around a golf course." What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Okay, so he's a little rusty.... Rust be damned, this is surreal. All four chunked chips by Tiger today. (via @BrendanPorath and @KylePorterCBS) https://t.co/o4YkB4k4Mn— No Laying Up (@NoLayingUp) December 4, 2014 What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yep I didn't read to much into it, although youd imagine he's been doing plenty of chipping whilst he couldn't swing it full? swing looked ok though - although the drive down 18 still looked like it was going to cause his back some problems. Rest in peace long sticks - I'll remember you TM Burner Superfast 2.0 TP Regular TM RBZ Stage 2 Fairway 14.5 stiff Adams Blue Hybrid No. 3 stiff Adams Super xtdHybrid 21.5 Stiff Ping G30 4 and 5 Iron - Regular CFS Shaft Ping i25 6 - PW Regular CFS Shaft TM Y Groove Gap Wedge Cleveland CG10 Sand Wedge PingTR Piper Putter, adjustable shaft, SuperStroke Fatso Titleist StaDry Cart Bag Motocaddy S3 Pro Trolley Foot Joy City, Adidas Boost Boa and Adidas Superstar shoes Pro V1x in the summer, Titleist Velocity in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Okay, so he's a little rusty.... Rust be damned, this is surreal. All four chunked chips by Tiger today. (via @BrendanPorath and @KylePorterCBS) https://t.co/o4YkB4k4Mn — No Laying Up (@NoLayingUp) December 4, 2014 Looks like some of my chips when I play on Bermuda for the first time. Yep I didn't read to much into it, although youd imagine he's been doing plenty of chipping whilst he couldn't swing it full? swing looked ok though - although the drive down 18 still looked like it was going to cause his back some problems. I agree. For as long as he's been able to chip, I expect better. Looks like he's only been chipping for the last day or two. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furu Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Terrible round. He's still going to end up in the top 20 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted December 5, 2014 SPY VIP Share Posted December 5, 2014 I was very happy to see Tiger return today, but I was hoping for super human Tiger, not human Tiger. I bet he will get it together soon, but those chips, and some of the putts, were painful to watch. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I was very happy to see Tiger return today, but I was hoping for super human Tiger, not human Tiger. I bet he will get it together soon, but those chips, and some of the putts, were painful to watch. I think this could be a really good year for him. Even though yesterday was abysmal the swing looked great and he found the fairway with the driver a lot. Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Now, Tiger has an opportunity......to dig out of the hole he encountered yesterday and return to respectability. I'll be there on Sunday to watch....Hopefully, he put on a better show than yesterday. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHacker Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 For all of Tiger's detractors who says he has lost it.... I would gladly give one of my kidneys to be able to play like him in his worse form. Hell... I'll throw in half my liver if I could put like him as well Now in my bag: TM SLDR 10.5 Deg with Matrix Ozik 6Q3 S flex TM VSteel 15 deg 3 wood Cleveland Launcher Hybrid 18 deg Diamana Red Board Stiff Titleist ZB Forged Iron 3-PW DG S200 Steel Shaft Cleveland CG15 46, 52, 56, 60 Wedges Scotty Cameron California Del Mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHacker Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I think this could be a really good year for him. Even though yesterday was abysmal the swing looked great and he found the fairway with the driver a lot. His full swing looks great! His short game... hmmm... seem to flub his chips / pitch a bit. But I doubt that's something that will trouble him for long. Now in my bag: TM SLDR 10.5 Deg with Matrix Ozik 6Q3 S flex TM VSteel 15 deg 3 wood Cleveland Launcher Hybrid 18 deg Diamana Red Board Stiff Titleist ZB Forged Iron 3-PW DG S200 Steel Shaft Cleveland CG15 46, 52, 56, 60 Wedges Scotty Cameron California Del Mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Gotta admit I've kinda developed a soft spot for Tiger and his past troubles over the years. It seems that post accident/scandal he's kind of lost his hubris, which is what made him behave the way he did, but also gave him that aura of invincibility on the course. He's still a great player - now one of many. Think his struggles at the majors are health related or head related? I've been trying this for the past five years with very few takers/converts so I will try it here again....... It's about the putter! It happened to Snead, Palmer and Watson in their early to mid 30's. After that they all could compete and even win regular tour events for quite some time but not majors. it's like that for Tiger and it started before the personal issues or coach changes or comebacks or anything else. Check out the stats, he was not hitting the ball particularly well towards the end of his tenure with Hank and his body was a mess. He won a US Open on a broken leg because he holed the putts that he needed to hole to win. Since that time though it's all changed. In his comeback Masters he was on a roll until a short miss of an Eagle putt on 13 stopped the run. That was a putt that he had never used to miss. He's constantly struggling with his speed in majors, blowing it by, leaving it short and that leads to short game issues (if I don't get this tight I'm making bogey) to approach shot issues (dunk it or settle for par) to driving issues although it's been a long time since he was a good driver. After his first return he was striking the ball great, winning regular tour events, even World Golf events, heck he returned to World number 1, but he could not win majors. For Tiger it's all about the putter. Of course his legacy is greater even than Snead, Palmer and Watson but I don't see any more majors or certainly not enough to threaten Jack unless the putter changes. Even when Watson had that incredible run at the Open it was the putter that did him in. That's where Tiger is at. It's not physical, it's not ball striking and it's not mental unless that's what is causing him to miss putts. It's all about the putter for him. He should take care of his swing himself and go see Dave Stockton. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Revkev, I tend to agree with your take on this, if for no other reason that I think as we get older we lose some of the "instinct" or natural coordination of vision and muscles we were able to rely on when we were younger. When I was a kid, even though I didn't play golf, I did play Putt-Putt courses and was pretty good at it. Even though I didn't start to play golf until I was 50, I could putt better than I do now, without really having to think about it. I could, more or less, instinctively see the line and strike the ball well enough to make the putt or get close enough to tap in. Once that natural ability declines, we start to "think" about our putting and the brain gets in the way. What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Revkev, I tend to agree with your take on this, if for no other reason that I think as we get older we lose some of the "instinct" or natural coordination of vision and muscles we were able to rely on when we were younger. When I was a kid, even though I didn't play golf, I did play Putt-Putt courses and was pretty good at it. Even though I didn't start to play golf until I was 50, I could putt better than I do now, without really having to think about it. I could, more or less, instinctively see the line and strike the ball well enough to make the putt or get close enough to tap in. Once that natural ability declines, we start to "think" about our putting and the brain gets in the way. Perhaps it gets better as dime tai kicks in and we start to forget the misses. It's strange age effects people differently. I've gotten to be a better putter with age. Some no all of that is a matter of confidence and clearly I'm not doing it for a living, under pressure, day after day. Clearly there are those who loose their stroke earlier than others. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Perhaps it gets better as dime tai kicks in and we start to forget the misses. It's strange age effects people differently. I've gotten to be a better putter with age. Some no all of that is a matter of confidence and clearly I'm not doing it for a living, under pressure, day after day. Clearly there are those who loose their stroke earlier than others. I play better, in all aspects of the game, the less I think about it. Maybe I'm just forgetting the misses - lol What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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