Gg Owen Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm at a loss on this debate.There have been many a fine pro that somewhat Ignored the work out bug. John Daly- Jack Nicklaus -Craig Stadler- and many other major winners.And some players like David Duval completely disappeared from his dominance.Even Tiger Woods and Rory's play was in question when they hit the weights hard.Is getting in shape and a physical specimen really necessary. My thinking is lifting weights and above average flexibility just isn't necessary.What is your thinking on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsgbox Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm at a loss on this debate.There have been many a fine pro that somewhat Ignored the work out bug. John Daly- Jack Nicklaus -Craig Stadler- and many other major winners.And some players like David Duval completely disappeared from his dominance.Even Tiger Woods and Rory's play was in question when they hit the weights hard.Is getting in shape and a physical specimen really necessary. My thinking is lifting weights and above average flexibility just isn't necessary.What is your thinking on thisSounds like you want to hit the gym hard or you want to quit the gym. Ha. Personally I consider myself a gym rat and days following an intense or heavy lifting day does affect my golf durability. It wasn't until recently ive alternated my fitness routine to include cardio and flexibility the day before a scheduled tee time and it's actually improved my stamina especially if I'm walking. But I have done last minute twilights after a leg day and yup...no bueno. Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excourse Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 While strength and overall fitness are important for everyone, I'd suggest that flexibility is more of an asset to a golfer then being muscled up. AFAIK, yoga is the best way to get golf fit. Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Wishon clubs, Odyssey CS stroke lab putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd ask Gary Player what he thinks about this subject. What does he do, like 1,000 push ups a day still and a million sit ups at 88 (?) years young? Sent from my coral using MyGolfSpy mobile app G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd ask Gary Player what he thinks about this subject. What does he do, like 1,000 push ups a day still and a million sit ups at 88 (?) years young? Sent from my coral using MyGolfSpy mobile app True, but those are “core†exercises, and he doesn't bulk up at the gym. I think we can all agree that being fit is benefit for sure. bulking up makes you less flexible to a point. Personally I think that bulking up has hurt many players in the long run. Being fit and flexible seems to be the way to go nowadays. As the OP mentioned, Duval was playing great in the late 90's and he bulked up I've the offseason and then disappeared from the Golf world. Tiger's bulking up hurt him as well. I look a Koepka and think he may be in line for some injuries with as much as he's bulked up. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 There's the Duf era, Sadlers, pat Perez types that eat whatever and don't have the “athletic buildâ€, then there's JT, scheiderjans and others that are lanky and then you got the tiger, dj and koepkas of the world. There's lots of ways to go about getting the ball in the hole. I personally enjoy how I feel having a lifestyle where I'm in the gym 4-5 times a week and the increased energy and benefits to my game that have come from it. I do the big compound movements and to date after about 2.5 years haven't had any ill effects. I think being in shape has many benefits in a day to day basis and in golf but it really comes down to the person Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Fitness and golf are on compeletely different spectrums in the amateur game.The golfers I know, come up with every excuse why not to exercise.And just about every golfer I play with looks extremely out of shape.But yet they beat me like a drumb all the time.And have unbelievable hand eye coordination.Im starting to think some activities like golf and fishing attract the unfit crowd.Must be the lack of actually moving (except leaving a golf cart or fishing boat) that agrees with them.Being healthy and feeling good about oneself is where it is at.No matter a golfer or not Great example of a good golfer who thinks fitness isn't needed.And actually he brings up valid points Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Jack? Not a fair comparison, Gary Player aside it wasn't done in his day. Jack was in better shape than he often gets credit for, a stellar athlete in high school and a very good tennis player. I can't hurt to be in good shape - defining what golf shape is may be still in flux. Pro Football linemen are in great shape for what they do but it's not ideal for life nor for other sports. The smart ones loose lots of weight when their playing days are over. I doubt very many of us have the time to get in the kind of shape that would cause problems for our games. We'd all do well to work on our fitness. And we would play better golf. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Xi10 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Working out being strong helps the long drive guys. The pga pros need flexibility so my guess their doing movements to help with being flexible with very little Strength. Being strong as a golf doesn't help. Yeah brooks is a bigger guy but Probably not that strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Working out being strong helps the long drive guys. The pga pros need flexibility so my guess their doing movements to help with being flexible with very little Strength. Being strong as a golf doesn't help. Yeah brooks is a bigger guy but Probably not that strong He benched 315 for reps before his pga championship round. Several of these guys are doing the compound movements of squats, deadlifts and bench. The big compound movements are good for flexibility and mobility Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 That is a great video Ed. I agree with Rev, either one spends hours in the gym. Or spends the hours on the golf course. Hard mixing and matching and dedicating time to both.But all of us can diet and improve our eating and overall lifestyles. Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 While strength and overall fitness are important for everyone, I'd suggest that flexibility is more of an asset to a golfer then being muscled up. AFAIK, yoga is the best way to get golf fit. Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app I'd agree on the flexibility. I started a yoga for golf program over the winter and continue to use exercises especially as a warm up before league. Never believed in it until I tried it. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm at a loss on this debate.There have been many a fine pro that somewhat Ignored the work out bug. John Daly- Jack Nicklaus -Craig Stadler- and many other major winners.And some players like David Duval completely disappeared from his dominance.Even Tiger Woods and Rory's play was in question when they hit the weights hard.Is getting in shape and a physical specimen really necessary. My thinking is lifting weights and above average flexibility just isn't necessary.What is your thinking on thisRespectfully, but completely, disagree. For the pros being fit can give you an edge - eg. Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka. For the average recreational golfer being fit can ONLY help you move .. and thus, swing .. better. WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H .. Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMNM Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 . My thinking is lifting weights and above average flexibility just isn't necessary. What is your thinking on this I will go to my urn not having ever known one thing about this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wouldn't consider bench pressing a good example of a compound movement. But again bench pressing that much Is dumb for golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 And doing squats and deadlifts are great but they don't need to be doing heavy weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMNM Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wouldn't consider bench pressing a good example of a compound movement. But again bench pressing that much Is dumb for golf 12 oz. curls are the likely limit for most of this crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 nothing wrong with that either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wouldn't consider bench pressing a good example of a compound movement. But again bench pressing that much Is dumb for golf Bench press involved shoulders, chest, back, triceps, legs and glutes. There's a reason it's part of the big 3 or 4 (if you include the overhead press). Benching that much isn't bad for golf or anything really. Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 12 oz. curls are the likely limit for most of this crew. Ha, good one! But see: I've been working out and have stepped up to 16 oz curls... WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H .. Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excourse Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Ha, good one! But see: I've been working out and have stepped up to 16 oz curls... Tried that, but found my weights get warm before I finish the set so I'm sticking with the 12's. Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Wishon clubs, Odyssey CS stroke lab putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteddyGolf Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Muscular strength, endurance, flexibility, body composition and cardio respiratory fitness all contribute towards maximizing your athletic performance. And yes that means performance on the golf course as well. Performing activities that improve the aforementioned athletic qualities is hard work and sustained success takes smart work. From 8 to 80, blind, crippled or crazy you can improve in each of these areas if YOU make the decision to do so. Will participating in a regular fitness routine make you a better golfer? No! But it will improve the conditions for you to become a better golfer and most importantly you will become a much healthier person. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Miura MB 502 Irons ping G400 Driver Cobra F7 3 wood Mizuno putter Mizuno Wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Muscular strength, endurance, flexibility, body composition and cardio respiratory fitness all contribute towards maximizing your athletic performance. And yes that means performance on the golf course as well. Performing activities that improve the aforementioned athletic qualities is hard work and sustained success takes smart work. From 8 to 80, blind, crippled or crazy you can improve in each of these areas if YOU make the decision to do so. Will participating in a regular fitness routine make you a better golfer? No! But it will improve the conditions for you to become a better golfer and most importantly you will become a much healthier person. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Excellent and exactly my point and.... Im sure it will make you a better golfer. I know that my fitness level impacts how well I can or can't do what my teacher is asking me to do. I'm guessing that's the same with a touring pro, perhaps more so. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Xi10 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Being physically fit is beneficial if for no other reason than to maintain your health and from a golf standpoint it limits fatigue and pain long term. I'm focusing on fitness especially in my back due to a family history of serious back problems (21 year old brother already has issues with his...) and I can tell a big difference in how I feel after golf and even the next day versus when I wasn't working on fitness. Im not a big gym rat and never will be but I do have a routine for strength and flexibility that I stick to. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I used to play tennis in my junior years and my coach was against lifting. He said, however, I should do 1 hour of stretching for every 30 mins of heavy lifting.l to balance it out. That was about 15 years ago. And personally, the only part of my body where I wish I had more flexibility is my lower back to rotate more. Granted, I'm just fat now SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I put golfers in the same category as mlb pitchers. They are strong for what they have to do and nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I'm now 62 and in the worst shape of my life. But am shooting the best golf, and a tourney bass fisherman. Go figure. I might as well go bowling TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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