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50 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Really great review! I guess I should start limbering up now, eh? 😄

Some stretching and IcyHot definitely can’t hurt! 

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Driver : :callaway-small:GBB Epic, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (44.75")
3-Wood: :callaway-small:Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5")
3-Hybrid: :srixon-small: Z H85, 19° loft, :projectx: HZRDUS Black 85g, 5.5 flex
Irons: :titleist-small: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright)
Wedges: :Sub70: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright)
Putter: :ping-small: DS72 C, 35”, PP60 grip

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6 minutes ago, BallsLeon said:

Some stretching and IcyHot definitely can’t hurt! 

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@chisag how are you getting along? Hopefully I can you you in test-land before you wrap up.

I just locked in a fitting for June 25, so should have some initial impressions to post following that. 

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11 hours ago, Autoflexusa said:

Wanted to pop in and thank everyone that participated in the testing of the Autoflex Dream 7. It has been a pleasure following the threads and receiving all the honest and legit feedback. You guys are some GOLF JUNKIES!!!!! 😂😂😂😂

Looking forward to seeing what’s coming up next…maybe some Dream 7 Iron shafts??? Hmmmm….

Again, thank you all for the hard work, it is very much appreciated on my end!!! If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me anytime.

Now get back to your day jobs!!!!!  😄😄

 

 

Thank you @Autoflexusa for giving the MGS Forum a unique opportunity to test the Dream 7.  I think i found my gamer driver shaft!  Looking forward to continuing my Dream 7 optimizing work to see if I can get even better performance on the course.

 

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7 minutes ago, KC Golf said:

Thank you @Autoflexusa for giving the MGS Forum a unique opportunity to test the Dream 7.  I think i found my gamer driver shaft!  Looking forward to continuing my Dream 7 optimizing work to see if I can get even better performance on the course.

 

I'll send you the invoice....i take Credit Cards or Beer.....

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13 minutes ago, Autoflexusa said:

I'll send you the invoice....i take Credit Cards or Beer.....

Yup.  Consider that done!  I think you should take the Canadian beer for payment instead of my Amex card.  Canadian beer is awesome!  Just let me know.  It will be nice and cold!  😂

 

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2 minutes ago, KC Golf said:

Yup.  Consider that done!  I think you should take the Canadian beer for payment instead of my Amex card.  Canadian beer is awesome!  Just let me know.  It will be nice and cold!  😂

 

I do love a good Moosehead...lol

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13 hours ago, BallsLeon said:

I don’t know about the rest of you testers, but I am looking forward to taking a break from practicing driver multiple times a week. Wearing my arm out! 😅

Believe me, I know what you mean.  I rather foolishly promised 1000 drives during the 5 weeks of testing... then did 1237.  1237/ 5 weeks= 247 per week.  Divided by an average of 4 days of being able to hit per week... that's 62 drives per day on top of my other clubs... What was I thinking?!?!?!?! 🤣 But I have to say, it truly was an amazing experience and what a great 1st review opportunity on my end!!!!

Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 Max (Mitsubishi C6 Blue 60S 2022) 

Fairway Woods: NEW Cobra LTDx King 3 & 5 FW (Project-X Hzrdus iM10 Smoke Green 60g 5.5R)

Irons: TaylorMade Qi 6-PW (Ventus TR Blue 6R)

Wedges: Cleveland RTx 4 52/56/60 Wedges (True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Tour )

Putter: Cleveland Frontline 10.0 Mallet

Grips: GolfPride CP2 Wrap Jumbo

New Gamer Ball: 2024 Bridgestone Tour B RX 

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1 hour ago, Autoflexusa said:

I do love a good Moosehead...lol

I will need to send you some "Maudite" double stout (22% ABV) (that's 'damned' in French) or some Stout Impérial XHG from Beauregard Brasserie-Distillerie (21% ABV) ...none of that wimpy Coors Lite stuff! 😉 

Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 Max (Mitsubishi C6 Blue 60S 2022) 

Fairway Woods: NEW Cobra LTDx King 3 & 5 FW (Project-X Hzrdus iM10 Smoke Green 60g 5.5R)

Irons: TaylorMade Qi 6-PW (Ventus TR Blue 6R)

Wedges: Cleveland RTx 4 52/56/60 Wedges (True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Tour )

Putter: Cleveland Frontline 10.0 Mallet

Grips: GolfPride CP2 Wrap Jumbo

New Gamer Ball: 2024 Bridgestone Tour B RX 

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1 minute ago, Jean D said:

I will need to send you some "Maudite" double stout (22% ABV) (that's 'damned' in French) or some Stout Impérial XHG from Beauregard Brasserie-Distillerie (21% ABV) ...none of that wimpy Coors Lite stuff! 😉 

Just no bud light…I’m a huge micro brew guy…lol

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3 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said:

@chisag how are you getting along? Hopefully I can you you in test-land before you wrap up.

I just locked in a fitting for June 25, so should have some initial impressions to post following that. 

 

... Going well thanks. Working on my final review now. 👍

Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:   :taylormade-small:   Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r 
Irons:       :taylormade-small:    P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r
                  :taylormade-small:    TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small:     MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :EVNROLL:     Custom 5.1 (no alignment)  33" 
Ball:          :taylormade-small:     '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X 

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... Since I received my autoFlex Dream 7 about 2 weeks after everyone else, I wanted to get in a few more rounds at my summer course, but after yesterday I just don't think I need any more time with my Dream 7. I hit every fairway but one, when I ended up in a fairway bunker that juts out onto the fairway. And a few just stoopid long drives. Final review is up! 

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Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:   :taylormade-small:   Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r 
Irons:       :taylormade-small:    P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r
                  :taylormade-small:    TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small:     MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :EVNROLL:     Custom 5.1 (no alignment)  33" 
Ball:          :taylormade-small:     '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X 

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@chisag persistence pays. From what I’ve read and understood, this one certainly made me think twice about fittings. 
 

If this were a standard fitting, this one likely would have wound up into to “nope” pile quickly. 
 

I am really happy it worked out so well for you. Play well friend 😊

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Some great reviews by this group. This shaft is one I have really looked in to and would be tempted to try if I could find a demo near me. 

 

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Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

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On 4/22/2024 at 2:19 AM, chisag said:

Introduction

Since I have written several of these over the years I will keep it relatively brief.

I started playing sports as far back as I can remember and played QB in the 2nd grade. Played College football, high school baseball and basketball receiving an invitation to try out for the Carolina Cougars after going 10-13 with three pointers in a Robert McAdoo Summer League play off game. Started playing travel tennis and then discovered golf in my mid 30's. Nobody played golf in the 60's unless their Dad was a member at a Country Club. 

My professional career started as a freshman at East Carolina University when a hall mate talked me into doing a radio station shift at the college campus radio station WECU. I was instantly smitten and in several months I was working at the local radio station. WOOW (BIG WOW13) and started my journey up the ladder to bigger cities at prestigious stepping stone radio stations and finally ending up in Chicago, the #1 radio market in the US when WLS and WCFL were in their heyday. It was a loooooong way from Greenville NC. I was lucky to have had a career for the entire 1970's when rock n' roll was at its peak. 

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At WEFM in Chicago, Interviewing a new theater company called Steppenwolf after watching John Malkovich and Gary Sinese in Mice And Men, I was blown away by their performance. I had seen dinner theater and High School musicals but the waaaaay over the top "acting" held no interest for me, but up close and personal dramatic theater was a first for me and in the interview they talked me into changing careers. So I did, starting over and working my way up to TV shows, Films and Commercials where the real money is for a working actor. My very first play, I received the Best Performance Award for Chicago Theater, was immediately signed by the Top Talent Agency and quit radio and embarked on my new career. You can see me in The Dark Knight as well as many TV shows filmed in Chicago and I have been the spokesperson for Humana the last 22 years. 

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Which brings me to golf. I started in my mid 30's and took up the game with the same passion as everything else in my life. It didn't take long to learn not only was the game the most difficult athletic endeavor I had attempted, it was a game I could play for the rest of my life and unlike other sports it could be enjoyed by a scratch player and an 18 index playing together and enjoying each others company. The possibilities were endless. 

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Like most forum members I have a fascination with equipment and started going to the PGA Show when Ari Techner the CEO of Scratch Golf gave me a pass and said I should review the best equipment I saw at the show. Having nothing but a sparking personality and a gift of jab, I talked my way into receiving equipment for review and soon had a reputation with OEM's. Meeting and talking with Marketing and Engineering was always a privilege and honor and I learned soooooo much. 

I love sharing what I know and hope my experience with the AutoFlex Dream 7 helps you decide if it should be on your demo list:
 

 

I don’t apply for MGS testing very often because I am only interested in products I think genuinely have a chance of being better than what I am playing. I thought the Ventus Red Velocore and the standard Qi10 was as good as it gets but have always been intrigued by the AutoFlex. I tried a Faux autoFlex version and it didn't work well for me at all. So once I heard autoFlex had come out with a new version in the Dream 7 I threw my sun hat in the ring! 
 

First Impressions (5/10)

During the Cobra Challenge we had to play a round of miniature golf. Chris my 82 yr old pard and I chose an indoor 3D facility since the temps were 115* during the day. 🥵 There was a rope bridge with rickety wood slats on the floor between greens and the next tees and we were walking very gingerly with me in front and Chris right behind me. Keeping our balance was crucial. Then I took off my 3D glasses and it was just some paint on a level concrete floor. 🤣 Obviously we could just walk normally but with the 3D glasses on it looked and felt so very strange.


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This is similar to how I would describe my initial impression with my autoFlex Dream 7. As others have stated the waggle is excessive and closer to a fly fishing rod than a golf shaft. OK that is a bit of an exaggeration but I am sure you get the point. It is just way more flexible than any shaft I have ever waggled. As I start my takeaway I can feel the shaft flexing as if the head is lagging behind. To be clear that feeling is real, not an illusion. So how it tightens up when moving faster through impact is right up there with The Loch Ness Monster and Stone Hinge. Pressing down just moderately on the butt end gives you an idea of the flexibility of the Dream 7 shaft. 
 

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Like most better players with a repeatable swing, when testing a new shaft it is rare to swing one that doesn’t fit us more than 2 or 3 times because we will subconsciously change our swings to get the feel and trajectory we prefer. With a tip that is too stiff I will increase my AOA to get more height and attempt to swing a little faster to feel the shaft flex and if the tip is too soft I will add more shaft lean at impact to lower the flight and slow down just a hair so the shaft doesn't feel like it is flexing too much. Waggling the Dream 7 before my first swing sent all kinds of information to my subconscious and my first 3 swings produced some pretty poor results. A new experience for me and it confused me even further. I took 2 more swings and finally hit a decent drive and went to the first tee. I played 18 holes with it and never felt comfortable as my trajectory and dispersion was all over the place. If I were doing a serious on course demo I would have handed it back and never given it a 2nd thought.

But every round got better as I slowly began to break down the illusions the excessive waggle created in my subconscious and started to trust the Korean Hidden Technology would do its job and tighten up through impact. Describing the feel is pretty much impossible as I think everyone will have their own perspective so the best I can do is say the entire shaft and head works together as one unit, with the feeling that the whole thing loads and unloads with juuuuust the right kick through impact. I can’t say where that kick comes from like every other shaft I have hit but it is there, somewhere. Once I got used to the very unique feel it became quite intoxicating.

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What makes this hard to grade is my initial impression was: I hated the shaft. Hate is a very strong word and I don’t throw it out there recklessly but in this case, it is accurate.  I sent a couple of PM's to my forum confidant @bens197  to use as a sounding board because I was really struggling with my Dream 7 and was really disappointed and needed to vent a little. Then like magic, by my 3rd round I was really starting to like the shaft and by my 6th round I was completely won over by its performance.

Aesthetics (19/20) 

Here is another golf forum member confession. I am just not very concerned with aesthetics when it comes to golf equipment. 🫣  I think going to the PGA Show for 20 years and hitting everything on Demo Day cured me of caring about cosmetics or aesthetics, other than how it looks at address. I am much more concerned with how it affects my scorecard and can this club/shaft help me shoot my lowest scores. That said, I do appreciate the Dream 7's interesting graphics instead of just large lettering. This shaft is something you can look at and enjoy or ignore and just play it. I like that.

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Years ago I read where a sports psychologist said shafts with color changes or graphics give you the feeling the shaft is shorter than one with the logo down and a clean look creating the illusion it is easier to control. The Dream 7 fits this description perfectly and it just looks really good at address. I do like the colors of mine and feel like I have a bit of old school black combined with the orange flowers and a modern color. Really nit picking, the multi colored autoFlex logo is a bit over the top for my tastes but again, I really don’t concern myself with cosmetics, especially those I can’t even see at address. 


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The Numbers (20/20)

I am not one to use a LM or hit balls indoors, other than at a range during a demo to initially put me in the ball park for a club or shaft. I find that for me, standing in one spot and grooving a swing is radically different than plying 18 holes with it. Stating the obvious, there is a freedom of motion when you know that after a bad swing, you simply tee up another ball with zero consequences. On the course, that same bad swing can result in OB, water, bunkers, trees and in my case the desert. That can add tension and pressure you don’t experience hitting multiple balls with a LM.

I have an ideal trajectory and spin window that is easy to see on the course. Too much spin and my high trajectory drives balloon and lose yardage. Too little spin and my carry suffers with the knuckleball dropping out of the sky before my desired apex. I don’t need a LM to tell me these things because after years of experience, I can tell everything I need by ball flight and distance. The trajectory and spin is just about perfect for my swing with the Dream 7. 

5 years of playing my winter home course has produced my longest drives on every hole. Playing year round and 4 to 5 times a week that is hundreds of attempts to hit those longest drives. Once I dialed in my Ventus Red Velo with my Qi10, it took me quite a few rounds to hit my longest drives on every hole, but after several months it owned every record. The Dream 7 accomplished that same feat in 5 rounds. And some were demonstrably longer.

Distance without accuracy is a fools errand. Referring to the excessive waggle again, I just didn’t see how the Dream 7 could be very accurate. And again that would be an illusion because it is the most accurate shaft I have ever played in a driver. More distance combined with improved accuracy has allowed me to swing just a little faster because I have complete confidence in my Dream 7 Qi10 combo.


On The Course (20/20)

My last 2 rounds on my home course I shot 67-67 thanks in large part to my Dream 7 as I had eagle putts on 2 of the par 5's and birdied 3 of them. Obviously an all around game is needed to shoot that low but the Dream 7 put me in spots I have never been and the accuracy has been off the charts. I have always played a natural slight draw so I aim about 5-10 yds right of my target knowing the ball will either draw back about 5 yds or a straight ball will still leave me in the fairway. The Dream 7 has almost eliminated my draw and really, really wants to just go straight. I will still hit a very soft draw on occasion but it is rare and I have not hit a big draw a single time, which was my previous miss with other shafts I have played.

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The 17th at Aguila Golf Course is an uphill dogleg left par 4 guarded by a lake. It is about a 230yd carry and the lake is cut diagonally from right to left  so middle of the green to the left side the carry increases to 255. If I have a little wind at my back and I am swinging well that day I try and drive the right side of the green. No wind or wind in my face and it is a lay up hole. When I do try I am probably successful around 90% of the time. With my AF Dream 7, the last 2 times I played the hole I drove the ball just past pin high and over the green which has mounding at the rear and almost on the 8th green*. This is something I would not have never thought possible because the Dream 7 would just not be very accurate. And again that would be an illusion because it is the most accurate shaft I have ever played in a driver. More distance combined with improved accuracy has allowed me to swing a little faster because I have complete confidence in the Dream 7 Qi10 combo.

*If you look very closely, you can see my white hat over the back bunker near the 8th green. Not quite Rory McElroy but insanely long for me. 

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On the par 4 324yd #6 hole I took as good a swing as I can make, had some wind at my back and landed on a downslope maybe 260 form the tee but it ended up in the green side bunker. Three twenty four. Just crazy distance. My carry distance with previous shafts has been right around 230/235yds with my best swings. I am carrying my Dream 7 around 245yds consistently and a little longer with a few.


The Good, the bad, the inbetween (10/10)

As much as I would like to be thorough in my evaluation and give you the bad and in-between, there just isn’t much there. I guess I would say the bad is the price (totally subjective) and the initial impressions. Had I hit the Dream 7 in a demo session, after 3 swings I would have handed it back thinking it was just a poor fit for my swing. And I would have lost out on the best performing shaft I have ever played. I really don’t know how to get around this other than stating for myself and better players with a repeatable swing, you simply have to trust your swing and make zero adjustments. I have a smooth transition so this works perfectly with the autoFlex and I have started swinging a little faster as that seems to work well too. However, I will not chase distance or at least not attempt to increase my tempo but I will trust I can swing as fast as I comfortably can and the Dream 7 will respond in a very positive way.

 

Play it or Trade it? (21/20)

That’s right, channeling Spinal Tap and their Amps that go to 11 not just 10, I gave the Dream 7 a 21. I was on the cusp of which shaft to get. SF405 at 80-95mph or SF405x at 90-105. Since I am around 95 consistently and 71 yrs old, I probably wont be increasing my swing speed in the years to come so I went with the softer flex. I am glad I did as it seems to fit me perfectly. Even my fastest swings that approach 100 mph. I really thought my Ventus Red Velocore Qi10 combo couldn’t be beat. My AD-IZ could be longer by a little than the red, but the Red was consistently more accurate and I was driving the ball better than anytime in my life. As much as I love the extra distance from my Dream 7, it is the accuracy that really sets this shaft apart from any other shaft I have played. And I wasn't expecting that. 

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Because of the unique features of the Dream 7 I can’t really say what kind of player this shaft would be an ideal fit. Although it does seem smoother transitions like the Pro’s that played an autoFlex like Fred Couples, Ernie Els, Adam Scott, Michelle Wie and Louis Oosthuizen were perfect candidates but of course they also all have very powerful swings. So not just for slow swingers. 

I am also not gonna tell someone else how much is a fair price to pay because $880 is pretty insane and previously I would have never paid more than $299 for any shaft. Until I got comfortable with my Dream 7. At this point in my life and if I had the opportunity to play it 4 rounds before making a decision, I would certainly take advantage of the $100 off the Dream 7 for Fathers Day. Much to consider but like a really nice meal in a really fine dining restaurant with a family of 4 including alcohol, it could be $500 or more. So a Dream 7 on sale at $780 for a shaft that will last years isn’t so crazy. And  the minimum total for Pebble Beach green fees a whopping $2,465 — that covers two nights at the resort’s lowest price-point and the the green fee alone. $780 doesn't sound so bad.

Conclusion (95/100)

I do think I was a perfect candidate of the autoFlex Dream 7. I have a repeatable swing and a smooth transition. I am not getting younger so another 10-20 yards with improved accuracy and the confidence those two combined produce has been a game changer for me. That just doesn’t happen very often. The unique nature of this shaft takes some getting used to, but once I realized all I needed to do was trust my natural swing without any adjustments it really blew me away. I hope to provide some updates in the future where it is even longer when needed as I think there might be just a few more rpm's in the tank. I honestly don’t think there is any honeymoon with this shaft. It is what it is and I am so happy I was chosen by Michael, autoFlex and MGS for this testing opportunity. 

 

 

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Just a fantastic review.  Loved it from start to finish.  Well done @chisag Sam !!! 

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10 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

Some great reviews by this group. This shaft is one I have really looked in to and would be tempted to try if I could find a demo near me. 

 

Josh, if you are in Austin, Barton Creek Fitting Studio has all the demos. Also, Golfinity and PGA Tour Superstore carry some demos also

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1 hour ago, Autoflexusa said:

Josh, if you are in Austin, Barton Creek Fitting Studio has all the demos. Also, Golfinity and PGA Tour Superstore carry some demos also

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Christmas just came early courtesy of @Jean D!

Very excited to join in the fun!

 

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9 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Christmas just came early courtesy of @Jean D!

Very excited to join in the fun!

 

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Outstanding!  Glad I could pay it forward to another MGS forum member for continued testing!  I am personally really looking forward to your views on the shaft, as I am sure the other subscribers to this thread are!  

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1 minute ago, Jean D said:

Outstanding!  Glad I could pay it forward to another MGS forum member for continued testing!  I am personally really looking forward to your views on the shaft, as I am sure the other subscribers to this thread are!  

One thing I have been thinking about is it’s going to be a 1990s style heat change T-shirt disaster color way with the neon yellow Ping accents and the orange autoflex. Nothing screams fore like a mad color combo!

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Just now, Rearviewmirror said:

One thing I have been thinking about is it’s going to be a 1990s style heat change T-shirt disaster color way with the none yellow Ping and the orange autoflex. Nothing screams fore like a mad color combo!

You should see some of my golfing outfits... designed to make my playing partner cringe when I get out of the car for our round! 😉 

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2 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

So an added bonus to my testing.  As many know i had it in my PING G430 10K max for the review.  Well i have enough time with that head for my review. 
 

So wanting to see how it does in my TSR i took it to my clubbuilder at 2nd swing and having a Titleist tip installed.  So ill hsve some data with it next week to include in my final review. 
 

I’ll update  the final review with switching it out to the new GT driver when i get it sometime in the coming weeks. 

Can’t wait to hear how the Dream 7 does with the TSR a the GT?  The GT looks awesome, but I love my TSR3.

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I should be getting the re-tipped/re-gripped Dream 7 back today! Ironically I'm about to go on a 5 day golf trip, so we will see if the KHT makes it onto the course. First up is Potomac Shores, which is a very tight Nicklaus layout, but it also has a couple of long par 5s in the 550yd+ range. 

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Good Morning everyone!  I was planning on posting my Final review yesterday but was surprised that the MGS Forum site was down for maintenance.  Well, it gave me a chance to make a few editorial corrections, and my Review of the Autoflex Dream 7 shaft has now been posted.

My one regret is that my wife did not get to spend some time with the shaft.  I think she will like it, but her tournament season is underway and she didn’t want to make that change… don’t blame her.  However, this fall I will install the shaft in her Epic Speed driver head and I will post her feedback on playability.  

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Alright - time to strap in for review number two for this bad boy. I shall call her the Electric Tangerine - due to her orange hue and the electric yellow highlights on the G430. Huge thanks again to @Jean D as I'm already very intrigued.

First impressions are "holy moly". I can definitely feel there's going to be a bit of an acclimatization period, but I was really impressed with the dispersion characteristics.

I decided to go for 45 3/4" playing length (the longest stock shaft for the G430 10K) as it's a length I'm comfortable playing, and I figured I can choke down a half inch like @ZMendle10 if I end up wanting to go a hair shorter. The real fitting is June 25 (Trackman data to follow) but I'm strongly considering playing this for my upcoming 5 day golf trip.

When I picked the shaft up, 2nd Swing had done an excellent job on the re-tipping - you wouldn't know it had ever been anything other than a Ping adaptor. They were out of GP 360 Velvet's, so I went regular Tour Velvet with the logo down. I asked them to swingweight it with the 26g weight I have been playing, and it came out to D3. Unfortunately they only had a 23g weight as the lowest, which took it to D1, so that's what I'll be playing it at for this initial go around until the 19g and 20g weights show up (my best guesses to get it to C9.5 and D0.5). I ordered some cheapo Ping weight knockoffs from Ebay that will arrive on Friday so I can game 'em on Sat/Sun/Mon. 

I could only get ProV1x RCT balls to try it with in the hitting bay, and no spin data. It definitely launched lower than my ProV1 usual ball flight. I would say I primarily saw three ball flights:

  • Weak ~200yd carry rolling out to 240yds (think this was likely too low spin/clubhead speed)
  • Solid ~225yd carry rolling out to 250yds (not far off my typical gamer distance with the Ping Chrome 2.0). I had some in the 240 carry to 265 total range but didn't grab any photos.
  • High right push ~230yd carry rolling out to 260yds

Dispersion and shot shape on both the weak and solid ones was impressive - either a tiny fade or tiny draw, and even the big right push misses were only 30yds right of the center line, so likely still "alive" on most courses. My plan is to aim dead center of the fairway for this trip until I see the right miss drop off.

Interestingly I don't think I was getting as close to my usual clubhead speed - as I saw a lot in the 95-96mph range, as opposed to 98-100mph. I also didn't see great swing efficiency on the "good" ones, so I wonder if I'm missing the center of the face too. I'm typically pretty swingweight sensitive, so I'll be interested to see if getting to D0 is more in line with what I typically see. I felt a couple of times I lost the head a bit in space, and then could feel it hang open through impact.

Feels-wise - it felt surprisingly normal too me. When I really caught one it felt effortless and exploded off the face and it was absolutely hammering the impact screen, so I also wonder if I'll see more distance in the real world vs hitting bay.

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It's going to be an interesting 5 days folks. Buckle up.

 

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2 hours ago, chisag said:

The Dream 7 just shatters that formula as it is the straightest driver shaft I have ever played. Stoopid straight. It still boggles my mind when I waggle it and my experience tells me it will just fly all over the place but of course it doesn't.  

Alright, it's in Arccos - time to check out those fairway stats 🙂

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4 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said:

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Alright - time to strap in for review number two for this bad boy. I shall call her the Electric Tangerine - due to her orange hue and the electric yellow highlights on the G430. Huge thanks again to @Jean D as I'm already very intrigued.

 

It is my absolute pleasure to have been able to pass it along- from this first impressions post, it seems to be a good match for your swing!!  Looking forward to reading more about your adventures with this shaft!!

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