Big money Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 For me, the better I'm playing the less I even think about hands and arms.Almost like my body hits the ball and I don't have to worry about manipulation or timing of club release.Where many have had success all hands and arms? What works for you and why? Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 When I'm not thinking and use less arms Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigtazzGolf Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Guess I'm in the arms and hands category even though I have a bit of the body involved, just not as much. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Grip n Rip it Chicks dig the LONG ball In my staff bag King F7+ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 60 - Graphite Tour X-Stiff CBX 13.5 3 Wood Atomic Irons 4-AW (reviewing) CG16 Satin 52* 588 RTX 2.0 56* and 60* Sentio Sierra 101-M Putter Proud tester of the Tommy Armour ATOMIC Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 When I stop consciously getting my hands through the swing is right about when the huge slices start. This never used to be the case. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Big muscles rule the swing. I am more of a visual player and in my mind I'll usually carry just one thought. At the moment its keep the shaft angle flat on the downswing...all else usually falls into place. Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Guess I'm in the arms and hands category even though I have a bit of the body involved, just not as much. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy nothing wrong with that.A million plus ways to hit the ball.Use what works Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Big muscles rule the swing. I am more of a visual player and in my mind I'll usually carry just one thought. At the moment its keep the shaft angle flat on the downswing...all else usually falls into place.Only place where I can control the shaft angle is my backswing.And my pro wants me to feel that the face of the club is slightly closed at the top.On the ride down, I let the whole right side of my body beat the clubface to the ball.If I do that successfully, that shaft naturally gets flatter and a draw will be the result.Not automatic yet,but I now see how focusing on the big muscles is so effective.It feels to me like a swing that will hold up under any type of pressure.And might be a swing you could use forever with low maintenance Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I agree! Convince your mind to trust it and there is no reason you can't make this work. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think it is a feel thing and each person needs to have a specific feel. I think that both have to work in unison to have an effective swing. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think it is a feel thing and each person needs to have a specific feel. I think that both have to work in unison to have an effective swing. This right here. I tried all sorts of thing I saw on Youtube and read online and I was a mess. A few lessons to get an understanding of what *I* needed to work on resulted in a few feels/thoughts that finally clicked for me. To bring it back around to the OP's question, it's body driven but aiming on the downswing, if that makes sense. I feel my shoulders doing all the work and my body reacts to that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 To bring it back around to the OP's question, it's body driven but aiming on the downswing, if that makes sense. I feel my shoulders doing all the work and my body reacts to that. Since I didn't answer the OP question. For me I am a hands/arms feel with the arms pulling the body through. If I focus on the body turn I end up blocking the ball right or flipping and snap hooking left. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 This right here. I tried all sorts of thing I saw on Youtube and read online and I was a mess. A few lessons to get an understanding of what *I* needed to work on resulted in a few feels/thoughts that finally clicked for me. To bring it back around to the OP's question, it's body driven but aiming on the downswing, if that makes sense. I feel my shoulders doing all the work and my body reacts to that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy agree all the way.And yes , shoulders.He told me if I'm off to feel like I'm hitting push fades.I never want the face of the club to flip over at all.All great replies here.Would like to start a thread someday.That will address a swing style suited to casual golfers or ones not super athletic.Would turn into a good dialog that may benefit someone Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eseay32 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I try to keep my body out of it. I want to be as still as I can with my body and legs. Just turn the arms back, when I feel the left wrist try to break my downswing starts. When I get turning wirh everything I get out of sync Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy <p>Knoxville, TN 8 Hdcp PXG 0811 10.59deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Titleist 2i rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, OdysseyRed 2Ball Fang with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Would like to start a thread someday.That will address a swing style suited to casual golfers or ones not super athletic.Would turn into a good dialog that may benefit someone That's pretty much what my swing was built from, and I agree that would probably be better suited for another thread. When I took lessons, my pro asked me what my goal was. I said I wanted to be able to get around the course and have fun. Don't have any plans on competing (at least, not for a while anyways). So we worked on finding a few simple feels/moves to help me keep the ball in play (mostly!) and have fun without getting complicated. No I can't draw/fade the ball on command or flight the ball well (yet) but I know what to do when my swing goes sideways to get through a few holes until it comes back. And a lot of that is just relying on my body to swing the club and not rely on timing with my hands, wrists, etc. In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Body synced and connected with the arms. If my arms get away from my sides, and hands get going, it's “all she wroteâ€!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I swing with my jaw. Meaning. If my jaw is tense, so is everything else. So, during the short waggle I focus on easing everything up. From there it is hands, arms, torso, hips almost simultaneously. Then once the backswing has been complete, reverse that order. If I don't finish the back swing I have to get the heck out of the way and I usually block it. As Chubbs said... it's all in the hips. Or in my case jaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigtazzGolf Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I swing with my jaw. Meaning. If my jaw is tense, so is everything else. So, during the short waggle I focus on easing everything up. From there it is hands, arms, torso, hips almost simultaneously. Then once the backswing has been complete, reverse that order. If I don't finish the back swing I have to get the heck out of the way and I usually block it. As Chubbs said... it's all in the hips. Or in my case jaw. Focus on blowing air out on the down swing?I do lol Tazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Grip n Rip it Chicks dig the LONG ball In my staff bag King F7+ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 60 - Graphite Tour X-Stiff CBX 13.5 3 Wood Atomic Irons 4-AW (reviewing) CG16 Satin 52* 588 RTX 2.0 56* and 60* Sentio Sierra 101-M Putter Proud tester of the Tommy Armour ATOMIC Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Focus on blowing air out on the down swing? I do lol Tazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I used to whisper BOOM on the downswing. Not sure what I do now. I'll pay attention tomorrow at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gg Owen Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 nothing wrong with that.A million plus ways to hit the ball.Use what works Yes..a million ways to swing a club.But only one right way per individual. And it isn't using part of one method and a few parts of another. It's using the same method not adding or subtracting from it . This is where most of us go astray. Nothing ever good comes from mixing and matching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00sportsman Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 My driver swing is body, everything else is arms. I remember seeing a video years ago of a swing coach talking about the ability to deliver the club head square to the ball being the only thing that matters . He demonstrated some seriously awkward and ugly swings, but delivered the face square and every shot was solid. Sent from my XT1585 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.P. Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I've been working on this a lot lately. I had 10 or so swings with my driver the other day where I focused on hands/arms during backswing and then hips and legs on downswing and crushed the ball with a slight draw. Not sure if this is where I'll land, but certainly searching for my cues. G400MAX Driver 10.5* w/ Kuro Kage S XR16 3W w/ MF AT S XR OS 19* Hybrid w/ FS Evolution II 565 4-PW AP3 w/ TT AMT Black SM6 50.8 F w/ TT Dynamic Gold MD3 56.12 W w/ TT Dynamic Gold Tommy Armour Impacty Series #3 Alignment Putter Ogio GROM Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I've been working on this a lot lately. I had 10 or so swings with my driver the other day where I focused on hands/arms during backswing and then hips and legs on downswing and crushed the ball with a slight draw. Not sure if this is where I'll land, but certainly searching for my cues. I think that's a big thing for any golfer - finding the cues that allow you to make YOUR best swing. I know when I think "aim the hands" on the downswing, my body reacts by starting a weight shift with my lower body. So what I think is my arms/hands is really more body. In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooremikea Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The arms and the body need to blend and be in sync. For some golfers the arms naturally fire very fast so concentrating on the turn will help sync up the swing. For me my arms trail my turn so focusing on my hips and shoulders opening up is a disaster waiting to happen. At the top of my backswing my "intention" is to move nothing but my arms and hands, absolutely no shoulder or hip turn. If you saw a video of my swing my hips and shoulders are moving in sequence (I think.... haha). What to focus on depends on your individual swing. Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff 4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0 Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 - 3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff Irons - Callaway Apex CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced Indianapolis 5.5 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH1980MN Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I find that if my feet are doing what I feel they should, the swing is ok. That being said, I'm probably a "body" guy, with a good dose of hands thrown in- my legs and glutes (activate 'em!) Are the main movers here, but my hands begin and finish (impact, +/- 10" or so) the swing. Everything after impact is just kinetic energy. A good tell is if I'm on my outside back toe, outside front midfoot/slightly to the heel, and my hands are a little above and maybe a little behind my front (left) ear. (Full swing, anyways) WITB: Adams 9064LS 9.5* (until I cracked the face) Adams Super LS 17* Adams XTD Ti 23* Wilson Staff Ci7 4-PW Adams wedges: 52/7 56/13 60/7 Wilson Staff Infinite Southside putter/Odyssey DualForce 660 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comemonday Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I think most use too much body. I believe it's proven with long drives being hit with a person on their knees, feet together or one legged swings. A body swing feels more powerful but it's not faster. For me if my core is firm I can do anything. If I'm lazy with my core anything can happen. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I have to try and feel like my arms are making my body turn. If I don't do that I get a horrible slide with my hips and I then flip my hands at the ball. That can be the difference between shooting in the 70s and shooting in the 90s In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The body, arms and hands all play a role. Using just hands/arms one can generate more speed than just using the body. It's about seauencing all the parts properly. Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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