Evnroll Midlock?

[Lux]

My apologies if this has been discussed but I couldn’t find any info. 
Has anyone tried one and what was your experience like? Thanks!

[BADFanBoi Scotty]

Had a go with the ER11V. 

I'm the type of guy that looks at the putter head in the stroke. 

With that much offset, we found that I just pulled everything left. 

Ended up with a Sik Double Wide Armlock. Not a fan of the feel, but consistency of length is great. 

Pity we don't have the Cobra Agera over in Australia in the Armlock. That would have been interesting. 

[Muckinfiddle]

Just picked one up. So far so good. OP did you get one?

[GolfSpy MPR]

This thread has been slow.

But I just ordered one of these on eBay and it is scheduled to arrive today. I grabbed an ER11v at 40":

Right now, I'm adjusting my putting stroke a decent amount, but the weak point in my Arccos stats remains my 3-5' putts, which are costing me 2-3 strokes per round. Intrigued to see if this can help; even if it doesn't displace my Edel as a my primary gamer, I think that practicing with the MidLock will help tidy up my stroke.

I'll keep this thread updated.

[GolfSpy MPR]

Some initial impressions:

• Aesthetically, it's a lovely putter. The sound is dense, solid, and muted.
• I had no significantly trouble adjusting to the longer grip and armlock setup. My standard grip is slightly left-hand low. So I took my normal grip and the protruding end of the Midlock grip set on my arm as intended.
• I do find, however, that the longer putter brings back a bad habit I have at setup, which is to get my weight a bit toward the ball, almost using the putter as a crutch. This leads to all manner of issues with the start of my backswing. Curiously, the more I think about the armlock and the mechanical stroke, the worse this gets. The more I get comfortable with it and just putt normally, allowing the putter to do it's part in keeping my stroke stable, the better the results.
• I did some testing with my Hackmotion sensor last night. For those who don't know, it's a device that measures change in wrist angles during the stroke. For a putter, the "ideal" is to keep quiet wrists, so a "perfect" score would be to keep both flexion/extension and ulnar/radial deviation to 0. Here is a chart with about a dozen putts last night with the Midlock vs my previous session, which was with my Edel:

• As you can see, the numbers with the Midlock are noticeably better.
• I've taken it to the course for nine holes so far, with limited practice. My first putt with it was from off the green, and I holed about a 25 footer. Otherwise, the results were kinda meh. I had two three putts from 25–30', where I left the first considerably short. This is not an uncommon story for those switching to armlock putters.

[Donn lost in San Diego]

I live a few miles from Evnroll.  Add $100 (or is it $150) for a full in-person fitting.  When I have $500 play money, I might go.  I do like the face-balanced ones I've tinkd with.  But for now, I stick, face-balanced,  with a Musty wood mallet and sometimes a Scotty Futura X winged type counterweight, model from around 2015.  I would like a custom fitted Evnroll or Musty wood for my particular angles and arm/hand size, lie, etc. 

[HDTVMAN]

Used to use belly putter and tried the Evnroll Midlock, but like the Bettinardi & Callaway, just couldn't get it to work. Went back to a 35" with a 2 Thumb grip. Love it!

[GolfSpy MPR]

Reviving this thread, because I think the MidLock might be my putter for the rest of the season. Switched to it a few rounds ago, because I was still missing a ton of putts inside 5'. Since switching back to the MidLock, I've seen really solid success in that range; typically on Arccos, I'm solidly in strokes lost territory from 0–10', and that seems to be improving:

Would love to see more mid-range putts drop, but my pace control (which is sometimes a problem with armlock putters) has been very solid; I've had a lot of tap-in 2-putts, which are always welcome from outside 10'.

[DukeStKing]

On 6/23/2023 at 11:35 AM, GolfSpy MPR said:

Reviving this thread, because I think the MidLock might be my putter for the rest of the season. Switched to it a few rounds ago, because I was still missing a ton of putts inside 5'. Since switching back to the MidLock, I've seen really solid success in that range; typically on Arccos, I'm solidly in strokes lost territory from 0–10', and that seems to be improving:

Would love to see more mid-range putts drop, but my pace control (which is sometimes a problem with armlock putters) has been very solid; I've had a lot of tap-in 2-putts, which are always welcome from outside 10'.

I really enjoy the Midlock. Like @GolfSpy MPR, I find the less I think of the Midlock, the better I putt. I was having real difficulty with it when I consciously pressed the grip into my forearm. Now, when I just putt naturally without trying to forward press, I’ve been having really good results from various distances. I have a second standard shaft (mid slant), so I can switch when things aren’t working well with the Midlock. 

[StrokerAce]

reviving this... as @GolfSpy MPR I need to improve my 3-6 feet range and am considering a MIDlock.

I've tried an ARMlock and that put my wrists in all sorts of weird positions and I'm intrigued by the midlock; seems the transition is much easier and your stroke is much more connected.

Anyone have any recent thoughts on the midlock? Tried it and gave up? Still sticking with it?

[GolfSpy MPR]

5 hours ago, StrokerAce said:

reviving this... as @GolfSpy MPR I need to improve my 3-6 feet range and am considering a MIDlock.

I've tried an ARMlock and that put my wrists in all sorts of weird positions and I'm intrigued by the midlock; seems the transition is much easier and your stroke is much more connected.

Anyone have any recent thoughts on the midlock? Tried it and gave up? Still sticking with it?

Short answer: it isn't currently my starter, and I can't say it solved all my short putting woes (or else it would still be my starter). I'm using the Edel that I was fitted for for a test here a few years ago.

That said, I still use the MidLock for a lot of my practice. It's the putter I have in my office, and I use it to help engrain a very stable lead wrist through the stroke. When I'm using my Edel, I'm actually trying to recreate that same feel.

The MidLock is also my first putter off the bench if my Edel misbehaves when this season begins.

[StrokerAce]

13 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Short answer: it isn't currently my starter, and I can't say it solved all my short putting woes (or else it would still be my starter). I'm using the Edel that I was fitted for for a test here a few years ago.

That said, I still use the MidLock for a lot of my practice. It's the putter I have in my office, and I use it to help engrain a very stable lead wrist through the stroke. When I'm using my Edel, I'm actually trying to recreate that same feel.

The MidLock is also my first putter off the bench if my Edel misbehaves when this season begins.

Thanks Michael. Great advice. I always seem to get excited and jump at things too quickly. Sounds like something I should try out at the store first but it does seem promising. (confirmation bias is soooooo hard to ignore!)

[GolfSpy MPR]

1 hour ago, StrokerAce said:

Thanks Michael. Great advice. I always seem to get excited and jump at things too quickly. Sounds like something I should try out at the store first but it does seem promising. (confirmation bias is soooooo hard to ignore!)

You probably already saw this, but speaking of confirmation bias and trying putters in the store:

That said, it is worth trying out. In fact, you're forcing me to get out my HackMotion again and see my current MidLock numbers to see how they compare right now to how I'm stroking my Edel...