Fujikura Ventus Shafts - 2024 Forum Review

[ole gray]

15 minutes ago, Preeway said:

My Introduction is finally up. I know we are still a couple weeks away from getting the shaft so plenty of time for people to weigh in and share what they want to see us test or measure. 

I'm not technically a senior yet but at the age of 51 I can hear Father Time knocking on the door. I currently play my driver at 45".

Do you play regular or stiff flex and what ball flight are you seeing?

 

[Preeway]

34 minutes ago, ole gray said:

Do you play regular or stiff flex and what ball flight are you seeing?

 

I play a 6S and I typically get moderate to high ball flight. I've always been a higher ball hitter but I haven't had the greatest success with shafts designed for lower ball flight like the HZRDUS Black. My AeroJet LS came with a Kai'Li White but I've never played with it. I will use it for this test to get some launch monitor stats for comparative purposes. My swing speed is usually around 110 and I can typically get 250 yards of carry distance.

[skraeling]

Ok got mine up as well.  Now I actually do need to get to work haha so enjoy the spelling and grammar issues and funny pictures.

[GolfSpy_BOS]

On 5/15/2024 at 12:36 PM, GolferXY said:

Good luck to the chosen!  I'm really curious about the difference in this versus the previous model and not so much the difference between this and other brands.

We have one tester who was using the non-velocore Ventus, but none that currently game the OG Blue Velocore.  It's possible that they have some experience with it, but I wouldn't expect major changes from the winning formula they had.  Like the TR line, it was more of a tweak than a remodel.  It seems this evolution of the Ventus Blue with Velocore+ should play close to the OG blue with better feel.

I don't think Fujikura would want to stray too far from a performance standpoint.  And I fully expect a red and black Velocore+ to follow in the future as they build the lineup out.

[skraeling]

25 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

We have one tester who was using the non-velocore Ventus, but none that currently game the OG Blue Velocore.  It's possible that they have some experience with it, but I wouldn't expect major changes from the winning formula they had.  Like the TR line, it was more of a tweak than a remodel.  It seems this evolution of the Ventus Blue with Velocore+ should play close to the OG blue with better feel.

I don't think Fujikura would want to stray too far from a performance standpoint.  And I fully expect a red and black Velocore+ to follow in the future as they build the lineup out.

My 3w and 3h both have the plane jane stock ventus in stiff, driver is a wild departure from both of those shafts though.

[GolfSpy_BOS]

9 minutes ago, skraeling said:

My 3w and 3h both have the plane jane stock ventus in stiff, driver is a wild departure from both of those shafts though.

I've got the OG Blue 8s in my 5-wood and I absolutely love it.

[Preeway]

While we play the waiting game for the VeloCore+ shafts to arrive, I'm going to do my first data dump from Shot Scope. This is based on 67 tee shots hit with my driver in my first 8 rounds (135 holes) played this year.

Left Misses = 17 shots or 25%
Fairway Hit = 26 shots or 39%
Right misses = 24 shots or 36%

The data makes initial sense because I have my driver set up with a slight fade bias with 10g in the heel and 8g in the toe. I did this because I had a tendency last year to let my natural draw tendency get away from me with bad misses left. I will update this data when I get the VeloCore+ because I should have logged another 6-8 rounds by then.

Left Miss Avg Distance = 273.4 yds and 22.6' from the fairway
Fairway Hit Avg Distance = 294.4 yards and 8.7' from the center of the fairway
Right Miss Avg Distance = 275.6 yards and 17.3' from the fairway

After sifting through all the data I noticed my "good misses" (dirves less than 10 feet from the fairway) were similar in distance to the drives that hit the fairway. However, my "bad misses" (drives greater than 10 feet from the fairway) were at times much shorter in distance. As I thought back on the holes played for those shots I knew that some of the distance loss was from hitting obstructions like trees causing drives to only go anywhere from 200-230 yards. Once I get some more data to average in, I'll establish a true baseline for comparison against the VeloCore+.

[Preeway]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

I've got the OG Blue 8s in my 5-wood and I absolutely love it.

I might look at adding a Ventus Blue in my 4 wood. Or, perhaps another VeloCore+?

[musicalmedicine]

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Edited May 27 by musicalmedicine
posting error. Was meant to be posted in my main post

[skraeling]

Still waiting on shipping so Ill dump out some previous trackman info.  I will be gathering new data as this was done when I was hungover (mistakes were made).

Only about 15 shots here, but this was my sim2 set at 9.5* (im not sure if the whole set, I wasnt entering club info in so couldnt keep track easily).  under 97 shows how uh "on the injured list" I was at the time haha.  This was more towards the end of the session.

Here is probably at the beginning of it.

Im much faster usually, now these are airswings.  On course im probably in the 100-103mph range with a ball (245-285 total distances typically).

Ill be getting new data of course be intersesting to see how my hitting is when im not playing "hurt".  Plus keeping a much tighter reign on data tracking.  Im debating removing flat out misshits for the posts.  Me topping a ball doesnt tell anyone anything about a shaft, just that I hit it so poorly I damn near missed the face.

 

I did get to hit a regular ventus TR blue on a qi10 head so not a real head to head comparison, but at least gives me something to look back on.

Edited May 30 by skraeling

[Preeway]

Also eager to get the shaft in my hands. Going to be a busy couple of days once I can start collecting data. 

[skraeling]

25 minutes ago, Preeway said:

Also eager to get the shaft in my hands. Going to be a busy couple of days once I can start collecting data. 

What was really curious is my AoA is 5* up on average sometimes spiking up to 7*.  My AoA was on average 5-6* up across both shafts and multiple different Qi10 heads, and even my stock gamer sim2max.  Totally changed how I approached my driver setup, tee height, and loft setting.

Edited May 30 by skraeling

[Syks7]

Intro is up.  Trackman data from the fitting will be up shortly along with some performance data from my current shaft.

[skraeling]

Finally some movement!    Now who knows when I’ll actually receive it.  Given my driving performance last scramble this will be a welcome change of pace 

[Syks7]

Like @skraeling it looks like I have something incoming.  If it ships any time before Tuesday of next week it's going to be in play for my Thursday Tournament -- even if I don't have a chance to get it dialed.   

Edited June 5 by Syks7

[skraeling]

3 minutes ago, Syks7 said:

Like @skraeling it looks like I have something incoming.  If it ships any time before Tuesday of next week it's going to be in play for my Thursday Tournament -- even if I don't have a chance to get it dialed.   

 

might wanna edit your address out

Edited June 5 by skraeling

[Syks7]

1 hour ago, skraeling said:

might wanna edit your address out

Thanks for the heads up.  I'd uploaded the un-edited version.

[Preeway]

I got mine as well. Now the hardest part of all. Waiting…

[musicalmedicine]

I should be receiving mine in time for weekend range session(s)!

[Preeway]

Looks like mine arrives just before I get back from my trip! 

Great timing!

[Syks7]

 

One of the joys of Southern California is being so close to many of the manufacturers.  Looks like mine will be arriving tomorrow 

(wohoo -- fedex 1 day window). 

In advance of this arrival I drove down to the simulator and got some baseline data on my gamer.  25 Swings, 2 mishits, and 23 playable ones -- even the high spin right ones.  Aim for your dispersion circle.   

I'll be doing the same with the Velocore+ (probably on Friday)

So here's the starting data for comparison:

Its my first go around exporting the data from a GC4 so bare with me.  I thought I'd have the clubhead data with it too, but clearly that didn't export.  I'll make sure to get it next time.  Of note my numbers aren't too bad.   I'm around the launch window I should be at, have mostly (if a touch spinny) good spin numbers, and will do zero complaining about an average of 225 carry and 246 total off the tee.   

Couple videos from the best swings of the day.

Really excited to start comparing the Velocore+

[skraeling]

Oooooo.  delivery now showing up a day earlier.  This is great news as my golf league is tuesday so I can make sure it showed up correct and undamaged.. then not be rushing on tuesday with it showing up haha.

[Syks7]

And here we go.  I really like the finish.  I thought it was going to be more baby blueish based on the website photos.  It's not, its a nice deep color with a matte finish that's very sharp.  If I didn't have something to finish I'd be headed over to the sim right now.  

Edited June 6 by Syks7

[skraeling]

5 hours ago, Syks7 said:

And here we go.  I really like the finish.  I thought it was going to be more baby blueish based on the website photos.  It's not, its a nice deep color with a matte finish that's very sharp.  If I didn't have something to finish I'd be headed over to the sim right now.  

Hah did I call you getting it first or what?  Also that looks stunning.  Cant wait to see how this looks with my sim2max head on it.

Edited June 7 by skraeling

[Syks7]

1 minute ago, skraeling said:

Hah did I call you getting it first or what?  Also that looks stunning.  Cant wait to see how this looks with my sim2max head on it.

I generally don't really care what the shaft looks like as long as it isn't distracting but this thing is really sharp looking.   I don't know if the video quite captures how surprised I actually was.  Almost all website photos are photoshopped to some extent to m make the product look better so i wasn't really expecting the finish to match the photos as well as it does.  I'm feeling that Christmas'y feeling right now.  Sequence of the morning will be to drop my daughter off at school, then immediately drive over to the sim.  No work would get done if I tried to do it before so I might as well get it out of the way early.  

[Syks7]

Haven't had time to sort through the data yet but here are my initial thoughts from my first 31 swings with Velocore+.

• Its stiffer than I expected.  Not boardy, but it didn't feel like it loaded like the OG Ventus Blue I hit at my fitting.
  • It felt (to me) like it was in between the OG Blue 6s & OG Black 6s.  Stiffer than blue, but easier to load than the black.  
• Launch is lower for me than my CK pro Orange -- by 2º on average.  
• Ball speed is effectively the same which isn't bad considering I know that other shaft like the back of my hand and I'd never swung this thing until today.
• I like it a lot, but I need to get it dialed.  Its consistent enough to play, but I need to find the right swingweight and weight layout for the head to get the most out of it.  It's at D4 when I like my woods & hybrids down around D1.  I'll probably start by swapping the 7.5 gram weight for a 2.5 and see if that helps.
• Its very stable.  I put some aggressive swings on it and it never felt like it was out of sorts
• I had a hard time getting the face closed down and also finding the center of the face.  I wasn't grossly off with either, but I didn't ever feel like I hit a pure strike today.  Could just be a day where I didn't have my best swing or I need to just get used to the shaft.  Time will tell.
• Its playable for me as is right now.  Dispersion pattern looks a lot like what I play with the CK Orange and that's out of the box without being dialed in.  
• More to come.

 

Edited June 7 by Syks7

[billybogey]

Am an Old Guy @ 75 Plus. Getting fed up with Guys 60 & over passing me in the Air & I have moved up to the Forward tees!! Question is what is the Best Shaft for A Senior??? who still want's to Hit it 220 yds min. Help; Sport's Fans; Help???

Trust Me > I'm really getting "Ticked Off!!" If I'm even with the Dudes that are 60+  I'm OK!! Well not OK I still get ticked!! But Liveable!!!

[skraeling]

18 hours ago, billybogey said:

Am an Old Guy @ 75 Plus. Getting fed up with Guys 60 & over passing me in the Air & I have moved up to the Forward tees!! Question is what is the Best Shaft for A Senior??? who still want's to Hit it 220 yds min. Help; Sport's Fans; Help???

Trust Me > I'm really getting "Ticked Off!!" If I'm even with the Dudes that are 60+  I'm OK!! Well not OK I still get ticked!! But Liveable!!!

My dad (68) plays the stock regular flex hazardus oranges that the callaway mavericks came with, he seems to get on alright with them.  If I misshit the ball he can keep pace with my distance which is saying something (hes a better player than me anyway).  So while I have him on speed, he just hits the middle of the face damn near everytime.

[GolfSpy_KFT]

Can't wait to see the rest of the shafts rolling in for testers and getting some feedback! I've got the Ventus Blue TR with Velocore in my Darkspeed X driver and am absolutely loving it. Considering moving to Ventus shafts in my fairway woods as well to replace the Kai'Li Whites in them currently. Good feeling shafts but S flex and not X, and I really have been liking the X in the Ventus. Seems when I go after the ball now with my fairways like I do with driver, it is an overdraw or a bit of a hook whereas the driver is straight to a slight draw. 

[billpierce]

7 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

Can't wait to see the rest of the shafts rolling in for testers and getting some feedback! I've got the Ventus Blue TR with Velocore in my Darkspeed X driver and am absolutely loving it. Considering moving to Ventus shafts in my fairway woods as well to replace the Kai'Li Whites in them currently. Good feeling shafts but S flex and not X, and I really have been liking the X in the Ventus. Seems when I go after the ball now with my fairways like I do with driver, it is an overdraw or a bit of a hook whereas the driver is straight to a slight draw. 

Hard to straighten the hook?