Hosel Rocket Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I shook my head in disbelief and looked at the (oblivious) store staff multiple times. I simply couldn't believe what I was seeing doing. With a LAB Counterbalanced putter in my hands, I was draining +50% of my 8-12 foot putts in the store. I've long suspected that the "practice greens" in stores are set up to be friendlier than real-world conditions, so I expected to catch an employee snickering with the slightest of fist pumps, thinking he was out of sight. But no. It was just me, the putter, and a half dozen cast-off balls no one would consider pocketing. Had Tom Watson momentarily assumed control of my body? Or was there something to this science? I quickly grabbed a similar-looking Odyssey putter, thinking, "Either this practice area is rigged, or I'm just hot," and proceeded to make one out of my next 15. I went back to the LAB, and I picked up right where I had left off. Then it happened. I looked at the price tag. Now, I knew going in that LABs were pricey items, but I was shook from my blossoming love affair right quick. The particular model I was wielding had the Accra shaft, so we're talking just over $600. I immediately started justifying the price in my head. "You use this club more than any other." "It's one of the fastest ways to improve." "It's just like you, odd-looking but reliable." But $600... I know that a club always performs better before you've paid for it. However... It just worked. Is this the exception? I know the right answer is to go back and give it another test run in a few days, but... Is it possible for a putter to improve you that much? What experiences are others having? How long did the honeymoon last before reality set in, and are you still satisfied with the club? manVSgolf, Josh Parker, Lefty11 and 1 other 2 2 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 There are people that they have performed well for and there are people that they did not. Depending on your viewpoint putters can help you putt better or they are just a piece of metal on the end of a stick. I had a DF 2.1 in my bag for a while and it is no longer there; on course performance was worse than other putters I had. Hosel Rocket, bens197, Josh Parker and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGolf Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I was selected to test the LAB putter and it has not left the bag since. The looks can be off putting however it works. Im a fan Lefty11, bens197, Josh Parker and 2 others 5 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - Makefield VS LH Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I have the DF2.1 and don't see it leaving the bag anytime soon. It works for my putting stroke and most importantly, confidence. If it works for you, it's worth it. Hosel Rocket, The TXBexar, bens197 and 1 other 4 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, McGolf said: I was selected to test the LAB putter and it has not left the bag since. The looks can be off putting however it works. Im a fan I've currently got an old Ping Craz-E in my bag, so looks clearly aren't something I'm too concerned about. But I get your point. Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 My MEZZ.1 has been in my bag for 3 years. I've had one, terrible day of putting in that time. Head to head against others it stood tall when I realized I was making fewer 3-putts and was also making more putts outside 8 feet. It's not voodoo, it just works...but only if you keep an open mind and stay patient. Quote PING G400 LST Mitsubishi Tensei White 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, bens197 said: My MEZZ.1 has been in my bag for 3 years. I've had one, terrible day of putting in that time. Head to head against others it stood tall when I realized I was making fewer 3-putts and was also making more putts outside 8 feet. It's not voodoo, it just works...but only if you keep an open mind and stay patient. I honestly looked around for hidden cameras. It was so confidence inspiring. bens197 and jbern 1 1 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderinAZ Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I have had the DF3 in my bag for about a month. It is a lighter putter than what I am used to (Odyssey 2 ball 10 armlock) but it has found a home in my bag. Played yesterday and made only one birdie. A down hiller from about 10 feet. I had 11 other putts that stopped within 3 inches of the hole(shot a 5 over 79). All but 2 just short. I am still working on the speed part. To me it has been worth every one of those cringe-worthy dollars. The TXBexar and jbern 2 Quote Driver Sim Max2 Hybrids G430 2, 3, 4 Irons ZX4 6-PW Wedges Hi-Toe 50, 54, 58 Putter 2Ball Ten ArmLock Golf cart MGI Zip Navigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, EnderinAZ said: I have had the DF3 in my bag for about a month. It is a lighter putter than what I am used to (Odyssey 2 ball 10 armlock) but it has found a home in my bag. Played yesterday and made only one birdie. A down hiller from about 10 feet. I had 11 other putts that stopped within 3 inches of the hole(shot a 5 over 79). All but 2 just short. I am still working on the speed part. To me it has been worth every one of those cringe-worthy dollars. I typically only have 2-3 realistic opportunities at birdie per round, so if I had tap in pars, I'd consider this a big plus for me right now. On the other hand, maybe I feel like I only have 2-3 realistic birdie opps per round because I don't roll the ball consistently with my current putter. Hmmm... That's a bit of an epiphany. The TXBexar and jbern 2 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRLEONARD58 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I have been struggling with a similar dilemma with my LAB putter. I have been gaming the Mezz Max for over a year (did try the Link for 3-4 rounds, but the Mezz won out) and immediately noticed a difference with how well the ball rolled when putting (end over end).. it also immediately highlighted how poorly I can read greens. I have always been a good not great putter (averaging 2 putts per hole over a season), and lately I have been seeing an increase in both 1 putts (yay!) but also 3-4 putts (boo!). While I firmly believe that the physics behind the putter are beneficial, I am not entirely sure that the putter fits me and my game the best. I seem to be one of the few that are experiencing this. jbern 1 Quote WITB: Takomo IGNIS Driver 10.5* (1* strong) with HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 5.5 shaft Takomo IGNIS 5 Wood with HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 5.5 shaft Ping G430 22* Hybrid with HZRDUS Smoke Red 80g 6.0 shaft Srixon ZX5 Mk II 5-PW with KBS Tour Light R shafts Edison 2.0 Wedges 51° 55° 59° with KBS Tour 110 R shafts L.A.B. Golf MEZZ.1 MAX with LAB x Accra shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtActual Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Arccos just laughs at me when I select my putting statistics on my dashboard. I am in a similar boat as the OP, I was sinking or scaring the hole on most of my putts at the store yesterday. Someday-somehow a Mezz will be in my bag. Hosel Rocket and jbern 2 Quote golf is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, KurtActual said: Arccos just laughs at me when I select my putting statistics on my dashboard. I am in a similar boat as the OP, I was sinking or scaring the hole on most of my putts at the store yesterday. Someday-somehow a Mezz will be in my bag. I went back to the store to try the DF3 last night. If I had a repeat performance, I was prepared to take it home and suffer whatever verbal lashing I received. It wasn't as magical though. I don't know what the difference was. Ok... The difference was me, obviously. I still like the putter and think I may have one in my bag eventually. But I'm glad I took the second look and was able to pump the brakes before I dropped $600 on one. Off to eBay to see what people have discarded... KurtActual and jbern 2 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manVSgolf Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 39 minutes ago, Hosel Rocket said: I went back to the store to try the DF3 last night. If I had a repeat performance, I was prepared to take it home and suffer whatever verbal lashing I received. It wasn't as magical though. I don't know what the difference was. Ok... The difference was me, obviously. I still like the putter and think I may have one in my bag eventually. But I'm glad I took the second look and was able to pump the brakes before I dropped $600 on one. noOff to eBay to see what people have discarded... I have been a LAB convert for 4+ years. Get fitted by LAB online. Then you can find one in your specs elsewhere. I wholeheartedly recommend them. Once you learn to consistently let the putter do its thing without manipulation, you will be get to that honeymoon phase almost in perpetuity. Glad you were able to see what is possible with these things!! jbern 1 Quote GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtActual Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 53 minutes ago, Hosel Rocket said: I went back to the store to try the DF3 last night. If I had a repeat performance, I was prepared to take it home and suffer whatever verbal lashing I received. It wasn't as magical though. I don't know what the difference was. Ok... The difference was me, obviously. I still like the putter and think I may have one in my bag eventually. But I'm glad I took the second look and was able to pump the brakes before I dropped $600 on one. Off to eBay to see what people have discarded... They're still $400 with a stock shaft on ebay! Maybe I'll get injured on a Metro bus someday and get a huge settlement haha Quote golf is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, manVSgolf said: I have been a LAB convert for 4+ years. Get fitted by LAB online. Then you can find one in your specs elsewhere. I wholeheartedly recommend them. Once you learn to consistently let the putter do its thing without manipulation, you will be get to that honeymoon phase almost in perpetuity. Glad you were able to see what is possible with these things!! Wait... LAB will fit me online and I don't have to buy direct from them?! jbern 1 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 43 minutes ago, Hosel Rocket said: Wait... LAB will fit me online and I don't have to buy direct from them?! I'll answer myself. "Yes." Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB13 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I've gamed an Evnroll putter for years - in fact mygolfspy rolled me in that direction with their feature on the "SweetFace" technology the putters have. I put my hands on a gravity grip and told myself (and playing partners) I will never buy another putter again. LAB made me a liar. It kept intriguing me the more videos' I watched, the more posts and reviews I read. I had to try one. I had to be able to say LAB doesnt work for me, and my baby will stay in my bag forever as I had been saying over the last 5 years. I picked up a LAB Link with an Accra shaft and there are some growing pains. I truly believe we all have been conditioned to manipulate the putter in one way or another. After doing the recommended "thumbs off" drill and watching the ball roll end over end on the same start line 50 times, I knew this putter was different. That in my opinion is the strength of LAB. Let the putter do its thing, and it will start on the exact line you intended. jbern, TSauer, Hosel Rocket and 1 other 2 2 Quote KB Titleist GT 3 - Aretera Grey One 75 | 5 Callaway AI Mini Driver - 11.5 - Aretera Grey One 75 | 5 Titleist T100's - Axiom 125x Taylormade Hi-Toe 50,54 Titleist SM10 58 wedge Sik Jo Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_puttercup Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 For me the moment of truth was seeing how big the sweet spot was. (I use a DF3.) It's made the most positive difference for me on long / lag putts, where something being even slightly off gets magnified so much more. jbern and Hosel Rocket 2 Quote Founder, PutterCup (puttercupgolf.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like to hit bombs Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 They are expensive, but demand is still high. Especially for the newer models. If you want to get a used one, keep an eye on local Facebook groups and golf forums. I got my Mezz for under 400 with an upgraded shaft off GolfWRX Classifieds. I live in Texas and I am in a Texas Buy/Sell Facebook group. I see them from time to time in that price range. Quote Driver: G430 10k 3W: Sim2 Max 5W: Stealth Max 4H: Sim 2 5H: TSR2 6-7i: Zx5 Mkii 8-P: Zx7 Mkii 48, 54, 58 SM10 Lab Mezz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosel Rocket Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 So... I bought a DF3 CB. I went through the online fitting process and found one on FB Marketplace that caught my eye. After some initial trepidation about dropping a bunch of money on something literally all the way across the country, I committed to it. I've spent an hour on a practice green at the local course and here are my thoughts: 1) It's not automatic... but it's significantly better than my current putter. If I take the time to line up anything relatively flat from 3-10 feet, I've already got more confidence than I previously did. 2) The thumbs off thing is pretty cool. I'm experimenting with all sorts of grips while I feel this thing out, but thumbs off is a fun tool/exercise. 3) Lag putting is a bit perplexing, but coming along. I can putt three balls from the same spot, feel like I put the same effort into the stroke, and... what happened? It'll come, but I'm left shaking my head every once in a while. 4) Did I mention it's already boosting my confidence? I'm finding already that I'm putting more pace on my putts because I'm not worried about running it 3 feet by. I'd obviously like to not putt it three feet by, but the point is, I feel more free to be aggressive with my pace because I'm gaining confidence in nailing whatever come-backer I'm left with. This will be a growing process, I'm sure, but I'm excited to work on my putting for the first time in forever. I might even build a putting green in my barn for the winter. Never thought I'd say those words! Josh Parker 1 Quote D - Ping G430 LST 3H - Titleist TSr2 Irons - Ping i5 Wedges - Ping Tour Putter - Ping Craz-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay4klay Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I'm still dialing in speed with my DF3. I read a comment on the LAB Facebook group that mentioned forward pressing even beyond what the grip already does helped this person with their pace. My question is, does anyone with the standard length DF3 add more forward press (beyond the 1.5, 2 and 3 degrees of forward press built into the grips) to their setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Map Oscar Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I absolutely love my lab. So much so I have 2 now and going to get a third when the right deal appears. I was struggling with putting and saw a broomstick on marketplace so I gave it a whirl. Immediately I was hitting straighter but I lost all touch with distance. Traded it for a Counter Balance DF3 and have been killing it since adapting. I had great distance control with my old putter but I'd frequently pull or push a putt. Now if I miss the cup it's an alignment or read error and the LAB does exactly what it claims to do for me. I haven't pushed or pulled a putt since getting the DF3 and I've found I was much better at reading greens than I thought and the feel is there Josh Parker 1 Quote I should be golfing instead of talking smack on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 PXG came out with a zero torque putter, Allan, a few weeks ago. I spent about 30 minutes yesterday hitting balls, at the new PXG retail store in San Diego near Torrey Pines (and across the street for real from the Miramar Top Gun military air base, now Marines, prev. it was Navy). I love it and am going to buy one after my eye gets fixed. It is $450, choice of a bunch of grips. I putt normal length club, 34", cross handed. I was thiniking of gettting a L.A.B. fitting but I probably wll pass now that PXG has a luvvy duvvy one. It has funny, full heel hang. When I balanced it on my finger the face faced me straight up and down. It takes no time to adjust to it. Josh Parker 1 Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marfau23 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Interested to get the communities view of a lab putter for a naturally arcing stroke. I’d imagine that it would be oil and water but even an arced stroke can definitely benefit from a more square clubface. Interested to hear! Quote TSR3 RBZ Stage 2 3 wood 913H 3 hybrid 910H 4 hybrid Taylormade P7MC irons (5-PW) Vokey Wedges Odyssey Toulon Atlanta putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 7 minutes ago, marfau23 said: Interested to get the communities view of a lab putter for a naturally arcing stroke. I’d imagine that it would be oil and water but even an arced stroke can definitely benefit from a more square clubface. Interested to hear! If look8mg at the putter head, all strokes have a “natural arc”. Per the LAB website (https://labgolf.com/pages/lie-angle-balance-technology) Lie Angle Balance (L.A.B.) Technology makes it effortless for golfers to deliver a square putter face at impact because, unlike other putters, it keeps the putter face square to the arc throughout the stroke. It makes putting as easy as picking the right line, the right speed, and making your natural stroke. So no oil and water, putter head arc during the stroke and the amount will vary; typically based on how close or far you stand from the ball. You can read the forum and just like any other club there are people that think the are the best putter ever and others that think they are no better than any other putter. Josh Parker 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduard Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 My Mezz has really improved my putting, and it is indeed a big expense, but unlike drivers these will last a long time! Quote Callaway Epic Max LS Driver, TM Sim Max 3 wood, TM Sim Max 2 5 wood, Sub 70 699 Pro v2 Utility Black 2i, 4 hybrid, Ping G410 5-U, Callaway Jaws 56 & 60, L.A.B. Mezz.1 putter. All fitted with Arccos sensors. Callaway bag and Kaddey Switch cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 9/12/2024 at 12:42 PM, slay4klay said: I'm still dialing in speed with my DF3. I read a comment on the LAB Facebook group that mentioned forward pressing even beyond what the grip already does helped this person with their pace. My question is, does anyone with the standard length DF3 add more forward press (beyond the 1.5, 2 and 3 degrees of forward press built into the grips) to their setup? I have the pistol grip on my DF2.1 and would say I still press slightly. It's a feel for me and a routine. I want to make sure my process is the same everytime I step up to a putt. slay4klay 1 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtActual Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 8 hours ago, Eduard said: My Mezz has really improved my putting, and it is indeed a big expense, but unlike drivers these will last a long time! Thats what the Odyssey in your signature thought too haha Edited September 19 by KurtActual Quote golf is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduard Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 24 minutes ago, KurtActual said: Thats what the Odyssey in your signature though too haha Oh damn, hadn't updated that in a while, but the Odyssey was a cheap one off the rack, so def not a 600$ putter! KurtActual 1 Quote Callaway Epic Max LS Driver, TM Sim Max 3 wood, TM Sim Max 2 5 wood, Sub 70 699 Pro v2 Utility Black 2i, 4 hybrid, Ping G410 5-U, Callaway Jaws 56 & 60, L.A.B. Mezz.1 putter. All fitted with Arccos sensors. Callaway bag and Kaddey Switch cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefy26 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I've played with a L.A.B. putter for multiple years now. I started 2.5 years ago with the DF 2.1 that I did on online fitting with them for. Ordered directly from them and at the time Sam actually said he had one that was a closeout/return that was exactly what I needed but it was Blue in color. He gave me the custom putter at the cost of a standard putter and I loved it,, made many, many more puts but wasn't the biggest fan of the massive size! Tuning in last November I purchased a new L.A.B. putter! I got the MezzMax in the same length and lie as my DF2.1 but this was a standard black standard alignment etc. I've gamed it nearly a full season now and love it even more than the previous DF2.1. I think that is mainly due to the size difference but with that same balance and accuracy. I'm from a small southeast Kansas town that doesn't have many people that try new things and I got a lot of flak especially with the mass of the DF2.1 when I bought it. People noticed that I was putting much, much better over time though. Once I got the MezzMax they were quick to question about it and in turn we now have 3 guys locally playing them and one of my best friends is finally starting to work on making the switch as well. If you've debated on it I would say go for it! The only thing that really takes some getting use to is the centered shaft as well as a forward pressed grip. You don't have to use the forward press but I do recommend it. Once you get use to it, it's so easy to put with. manVSgolf 1 Quote L.A.B. Rat among a mixed bag of goodness that works for my game. Ping, Cobra, Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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