Cizzle52 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I recently started toying around with lead tape. I taped the heck out of my putter and liked how the extra weight feels. I also added a Little fade bias to my 3 Hybrid and that straightened out my ball flight. Anyone else have luck with using lead tape? What clubs and what does it help you with? I’d love to see pictures! Shapotomous, Josh Parker and jbern 3 Quote My Bag: Driver: TaylorMade 9 deg. Stealth 2+. 3 Wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2+, 3 Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM 2 Max, 6 Iron: TaylorMade SIM 2 max, 5-P: TaylorMade P770 2024, 48: TaylorMade MG4, 52, 56: TaylorMade MG3, Putter: O-Works Marxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) Yep.... toe bias on the hybrid for fade bias help Center of irons for equalizing swingweight... Edited September 8 by Shapotomous Josh Parker, jbern, Cizzle52 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzle52 Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 12 minutes ago, Shapotomous said: Center of irons for equalizing swingweight... Love those. Did you measure it out for each iron or go based on feel? Quote My Bag: Driver: TaylorMade 9 deg. Stealth 2+. 3 Wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2+, 3 Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM 2 Max, 6 Iron: TaylorMade SIM 2 max, 5-P: TaylorMade P770 2024, 48: TaylorMade MG4, 52, 56: TaylorMade MG3, Putter: O-Works Marxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 9 minutes ago, Cizzle52 said: Love those. Did you measure it out for each iron or go based on feel? Measured out on a swingweight scale to start and tweaked a couple slightly based on feel and how i hit them. jbern, Josh Parker and Cizzle52 3 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Oosthuizen Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Last week I read an article all about Swing Weight. Being a mechanical engineer with some research background I found this most interesting and searched for more articles and also Youtube videos. Based on a a simple measuring and weighing method that I found I then did the measuring and weighing of all my clubs last Thursday evening, put the data in a spreadsheet and found that very few of my clubs are the same even though the are all of the same brand. I cannot remember everything off hand since the data is at home but it was something like the following: Driver - D0 3W - E2 17* Hybrid - D1 4H - E1 4I - D0 5I - D1 6I - D1 7I - D2 8I - D0 9I - D1 PW - D0 A - D2 SW - E0 I hit my 7I and A wedge to most accurate when considering distance, control and feel. I realize that I need to read a lot more and need to to refine my measurement method. I am looking forward to "tune" the clubs to get the irons (4 to A) the same and see if it makes a difference. Not sure what to do with the woods and hybrids as yet. Shapotomous and jbern 2 Quote Callaway Mavrik Driver 10.5* (280yd) Callaway GBB 3 wood (256yd) Ping G25 17* Hybrid (230yd) Callaway AI Smoke 4Hybrid (set at 22* & replacement for the 4 iron) (208yd) Callaway Apex Pro 19 (5 to A) Irons Wilson Staff Dynapower SW (1975) Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore Wedge 60 Mid 10 Odyssey DXF Rossie Putter Srixon Q-Star balls Garmin Approach S60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Lead tape is golf club pixie dust.. lol. Shapotomous, Lefty11, russtopherb and 3 others 3 1 1 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I've had lead tape on fixed hosel drivers as well as currently on one of my putters. There's a definite feel change along with a performance change when using it where it's needed. jbern and BIG STU 2 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h D200 6i-GW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I use lead tape on my 58* to add some weight to the head and I have added tape to the center of my 4W shaft to try to make the shaft heavier (it is stock at about 66g and I wanted to get it up around 70g at least) so I wrapped tape around the midpoint between the grip and the hosel on the shaft. Cizzle52, jbern and Josh Parker 3 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 I also used lead tape on my putter. After I cut the shaft down 2.5 inches, I needed to add some significant weight to get the feel back to how it was previously! I haven't tried it on any other clubs, yet! @Johann Oosthuizen's post about how all of his clubs are different is very interesting and makes me want to measure my irons to see how close they are to each other... Bad Golfer, Cizzle52, Josh Parker and 1 other 3 1 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzle52 Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 13 hours ago, Johann Oosthuizen said: I hit my 7I and A wedge to most accurate when considering distance, control and feel. I realize that I need to read a lot more and need to to refine my measurement method. I am looking forward to "tune" the clubs to get the irons (4 to A) the same and see if it makes a difference. Not sure what to do with the woods and hybrids as yet. Should all the clubs be the same theoretically or is there a benefit to having the CG of a club lower or higher? BIG STU 1 Quote My Bag: Driver: TaylorMade 9 deg. Stealth 2+. 3 Wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2+, 3 Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM 2 Max, 6 Iron: TaylorMade SIM 2 max, 5-P: TaylorMade P770 2024, 48: TaylorMade MG4, 52, 56: TaylorMade MG3, Putter: O-Works Marxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Oosthuizen Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 7 hours ago, Cizzle52 said: Should all the clubs be the same theoretically or is there a benefit to having the CG of a club lower or higher? From what I have read and understand is that the set of irons, from the longest to about 9I, should feel the same and this can be done by weighting them. This then helps to hit the sweet spot every time. The wedges are typically heavier. Long, long ago with my previous set of clubs I just could not hit the 3I and 5I (Wilson Staff Dynapower from 1975). I hated them. Then talking about the issue in the club's proshop with my dad the pro asked me to bring the two clubs and also two clubs that I liked the most. I gave him the 4I, 6I and 8I. He then did some measurements on the three clubs that I liked and added or removed weights in the toes of the two hated clubs and bingo... the clubs worked for me. At that stage I was about 14-15 years old and did not really understand what he did. However, I did think the pro was a magician. Shapotomous, Bad Golfer and Cizzle52 1 2 Quote Callaway Mavrik Driver 10.5* (280yd) Callaway GBB 3 wood (256yd) Ping G25 17* Hybrid (230yd) Callaway AI Smoke 4Hybrid (set at 22* & replacement for the 4 iron) (208yd) Callaway Apex Pro 19 (5 to A) Irons Wilson Staff Dynapower SW (1975) Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore Wedge 60 Mid 10 Odyssey DXF Rossie Putter Srixon Q-Star balls Garmin Approach S60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Oosthuizen Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) 14 hours ago, jbern said: I also used lead tape on my putter. After I cut the shaft down 2.5 inches, I needed to add some significant weight to get the feel back to how it was previously! I haven't tried it on any other clubs, yet! @Johann Oosthuizen's post about how all of his clubs are different is very interesting and makes me want to measure my irons to see how close they are to each other... I think with my clubs the issue is that that I regripped them myself and used masking tape as grip tape. This I applied in an overlapping spiral from the bottom to the top to give a slightly thicker grip. Hence there is a possibility that the weight is ever so slightly different due to the varying lengths of tape that I used. On that, it is important to use the same grips when regripping as the grips vary in weight. There is a swingweight spreadsheet available on the interweb "Swingweight_Calculator_Plus_Rev.0." that I have tested and found it fascinating. Edited September 10 by Johann Oosthuizen Shapotomous, jbern and Bad Golfer 2 1 Quote Callaway Mavrik Driver 10.5* (280yd) Callaway GBB 3 wood (256yd) Ping G25 17* Hybrid (230yd) Callaway AI Smoke 4Hybrid (set at 22* & replacement for the 4 iron) (208yd) Callaway Apex Pro 19 (5 to A) Irons Wilson Staff Dynapower SW (1975) Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore Wedge 60 Mid 10 Odyssey DXF Rossie Putter Srixon Q-Star balls Garmin Approach S60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 11 hours ago, Cizzle52 said: Should all the clubs be the same theoretically or is there a benefit to having the CG of a club lower or higher? There are a lot of variables involved there. No clear-cut thing. Depends on the head design the shaft flex and what one wants to achieve by doing it. On my personal stuff even though I have a SW scale I do it by feel and the effect I want. To the OP yes I use it LOL they do not call me Dr. Lead Tape for nothing. Lets see I have it on 8 of the 12 clubs I carry for now which is a new low for me Bad Golfer, Johann Oosthuizen, Cizzle52 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- - 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R---- Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex steel shafts--- SW -- Cleveland 588 56* S-400 Sensicore --- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Fluted Bulls Eye shaft--- Bag TM Flex Lite Stand---- Yeah I know only 11 clubs G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggsenator Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Depends on the club, but I have used lead tape to improve the feel of a couple of putters. This was true on one of them because I cut the length of the shaft down before I knew enough about clubs to realize that it would REALLY affect the feel. But some lead tape did the trick and now it feels as good as new. Lesson: if you have a valuable putter that is a bit too long for you, don't cut the shaft down or reshaft to a shorter shaft if you want to retain its value or avoid having to tinker with the head's weight with tape or adhesive weights. Cizzle52 1 Quote PCA pastor; scratch golfer; classic club enthusiast; exclusive forged muscle back blade player; former golf coach. Currently playing: Titleist 985 driver, 3-wood; Titleist 680 forged irons; Vokey wedges; Scotty Cameron Newport II custom putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis_Posture Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I guess about 80% of Tour players bags have at least a couple of clubs to which lead tape is applied, and it's been that way for more than 50 years. Cizzle52 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I currently only have lead tape on my vokey wedges. Heads feel to light stock so it's not based on a sw but on feel. They all have the exact amount though. Cizzle52, jbern and Bad Golfer 3 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Oosthuizen Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/9/2024 at 11:07 AM, Johann Oosthuizen said: Last week I read an article all about Swing Weight. Being a mechanical engineer with some research background I found this most interesting and searched for more articles and also Youtube videos. Based on a a simple measuring and weighing method that I found I then did the measuring and weighing of all my clubs last Thursday evening, put the data in a spreadsheet and found that very few of my clubs are the same even though the are all of the same brand. I cannot remember everything off hand since the data is at home but it was something like the following: Driver - D0 3W - E2 17* Hybrid - D1 4H - E1 4I - D0 5I - D1 6I - D1 7I - D2 8I - D0 9I - D1 PW - D0 A - D2 SW - E0 I hit my 7I and A wedge to most accurate when considering distance, control and feel. I realize that I need to read a lot more and need to to refine my measurement method. I am looking forward to "tune" the clubs to get the irons (4 to A) the same and see if it makes a difference. Not sure what to do with the woods and hybrids as yet. Ok, in my previous post that I wrote on Monday, I mentioned that the data was at home and that I could not remember everything that I measured but after getting the data from home it seems that my Covid memory really had taken a toll. Anyway, here is the data from the measurement....and it much more varied than I thought. By applying lead tape in the correct areas I can make the swingweights the same, it is pure physics. But then, would the clubs feel better? Most probably a combination of two sciences, physics and psychology. Cizzle52 and Bad Golfer 1 1 Quote Callaway Mavrik Driver 10.5* (280yd) Callaway GBB 3 wood (256yd) Ping G25 17* Hybrid (230yd) Callaway AI Smoke 4Hybrid (set at 22* & replacement for the 4 iron) (208yd) Callaway Apex Pro 19 (5 to A) Irons Wilson Staff Dynapower SW (1975) Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore Wedge 60 Mid 10 Odyssey DXF Rossie Putter Srixon Q-Star balls Garmin Approach S60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I experimented a while back with lead tape. My fitter seemed appalled by what I did and indicated I did it all wrong. I tried to give my driver some more draw bias and the head some more weight to adjust SW. He said my makeshift patch work did not make sense. He pointed to some issues, but it went over my head. Anyway, after he adjusted it, I have to admit it worked better than my lead tape job. So mixed results. Cizzle52 1 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 8 hours ago, Johann Oosthuizen said: Most probably a combination of two sciences, physics and psychology. Even if it is just one science...psychology....that is enough of a reason for me! Confidence is a big factor in solid contact. cnosil and Johann Oosthuizen 1 1 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I am currently experimenting with the Justin Rose lead tape hack on my driver (lead tape around the shaft just below the grip). Only one round so far, but I think I like it. Quote 14 of the following: Taylormade Qi10 Max Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Titleist TSR1 hybrid 26 degrees Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Ping G430 irons 6-50 degree Sub 70 286 wedges 52 and 56 degrees Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 20 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said: I am currently experimenting with the Justin Rose lead tape hack on my driver (lead tape around the shaft just below the grip). Only one round so far, but I think I like it. I have a hard time committing to putting lead tape on the shaft for some reason, but I would like to try it for when I want to buy new grips. I was thinking I would like heavier grips, but I want to test first Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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