[Is Maxfli DTC?]

57 minutes ago, tschott said:

Maxfli 2020 is 2 for $60 and 2019 is 2 for $45. Might want to try OnCore they have buy 2 get one free.

Think I saw the 2021 Tour 48 box on sale for $104.98 at Dick's. Good price, Good Ball.

[Homemade Pix Balls]

Like your new design a lot better - looks neat. I am one of those that like several markings on the ball.

I use an ink stamp that I get at stampyourballs.com - it probably costs a little more but each stamp will do dozens of balls and it last really well as you play.

They have many designs that are really neat in several colors. I am not as creative in design as you so I needed the help.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

5 hours ago, JerryB said:

Swapped out my wedges this week and switched the tags over as well.  Is there a way to see my performance stats for just these new clubs, alongside the rest of my bag?  It seems like stats are tied to the tag rather than the named club, if that makes sense.

I believe the performance is tied to the "color" assigned to the club. If you have club A with tag LW and move that tag to a different club - say Club B and place club B into your "bag" and use it in a round. You should see two different LW clubs in your performance stats. They will be different colors. If you move that tag to a 3rd club and put it in your bag and use it in a round then you should have three different colors in your performance stats.

I believe the stats are tracked based on the color assigned to that club/tag combination. If you move the LW tag back to the original Club A and place that club back into your "bag" and use it in a round, those stats will be merged and tracked with the original color of Club A.

At least that is how it has worked for me. 

[Shot Scope Users Group]

3 hours ago, toehold57 said:

I’m using manual entry for putting so does that mean I will never be able to rely on SG for putting?  I could be wrong but with manual entry the distance is not being recorded.

Not certain about that.

My understanding is that when you click the 1 button to record the putt - standing over the ball - that SS marks the GPS position and then when you click the pin location - when standing over the hole - SS also marks that GPS position and will then compute all the putt distances from the GPS locations.

So it should be accurate - at least as accurate as the GPS system allows. So definitely should check in editing that the distances look OK to you. Of course that requires a very good memory or jotting down distances to refresh your memory. That accuracy is not critical to me - so I just try to remember exceptional putts and check them during edit. As luck would have it - there are usually not a lot of them.

Requiring close accuracy can get quite time consuming - unless you just trust SS and GPS. I am hoping that errors if they occur, will even out over the season since I play a lot of rounds.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

7 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

If you're using Manual Putt mode (going to try it myself) do you even need the "P" tag..?

No, tag not needed for manual putting mode.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

8 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Thx, Matt, got it. I should've been more clear .. my question was actually for @Larryw and how does he keep track of which driver + shaft combo is which for which shot, but I'm guessing he's doing that manually in his spreadsheet?

Yes, I keep a list on paper of which shaft is which color in Shot Scope. I put that color in my bag for the day. Shot Scope keeps the stats by color so that part works fine and keeps the stats separate.

I still think it would be nice to be able to "name" my clubs, something like "floppy" for a wedge, or "only trouble" for my 1 iron. (which I use mostly as a punch out for a wayward shot). Would make my stat sheet look so much nicer than "LW" in blue and "X2" in black.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

3 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

As long as you had a second "D" tag for the alternate shaft(s).

Don't need another D tag, just create a second driver - exactly like the first driver - put in the D tag and you will get a different color. Problem is that without a user defined field to distinguish the clubs, you have to keep a list somewhere so you know which color is which shaft. After two or three shafts that becomes a nightmare.

The request for a user defined "name" for the club has been made several times - but so far has fallen on deaf ears. My only pet-peeve for Shot Scope. Love the watch.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

1 hour ago, Chip Strokes said:

another question for you guys headed into my test:

i use stats primarily to feed my ego and self worth, so those average distances need to be WAY up there.  i use 7/8 irons around the green quite a bit for bump and run chip shots.  are these gonna skew my averages and make me look like a far inferior man? will i have to put the 8i sensor in my driver for a few shots to make up the difference? 

Also, if I remember correctly, shots within 50 yds. of the green will not used in distance measurements.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

Well it is POSSIBLE that the #3 ball is/was a left dot ProV1 - it has 352 dimples - which is what the left dot has on the USGA approved ball list. However, so does the AVX.

It makes little sense that the blind ball test would be on a ball that is set for release to the public immediately. Makes more sense to me that it might be a POTENTIAL next release ball, maybe in a year or two after being tweaked during the meantime. Also still think it looks like the Tour Speed - maybe with a thin ProV1 cover - just for trial?

BTW, the #4 ball has 388 dimples - and the only Titleist ball I could find with that count is a ProV1 so it could be the same next version out to be trialed and tweaked - if every released into the wild - and it did look very much like a ProV1 inside.

This is all just speculation and we will probably never find out the details of the two balls in our trial.

Still looking for that Tsi1 driver that should be coming as the token gift to all us for the superior effort we have displayed.

[MGS X TheGrint The Open Championship - Winners Announced!]

Well I had a very nice surprise waiting for me today. Having won the 3rd place prize - and already being a Pro member at TheGrint, they went above my expectations in providing a "care" package.

Thanks to TheGrint and to MGS. Waiting for the next one - but may miss it due to having RT Hip Replaced on Monday. Plan to be back before the fall arrives for the Holiday contests.

 

 

 

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

5 hours ago, Tsecor said:

The beauty of the V1x is awesome......while the NXT tour (which i loved) looks really off center

Yeah, and it is not the camera angle. The inner core is definitely off center and the cover is thick.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

OK Survey completed.

After cutting the balls I have not changed my views.

Both balls are very good. I prefer #3 which had better launch attributes for me. I still feel that #4 stops a little better on the green but launches higher and is much more affected by wind than #3.

My takes on the ball pictures:

#3 closely resembles a Tour Speed but with a thinner cover.

#4 closely resembles a Prov1.

I included my Maxfli Tour for comparison. Looks much like a Prov1 to me.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

12 minutes ago, HDTVMAN said:

I received 2 white sleeves from Titleist, #2 & #3. I tested the balls side by side on a perfect day. First, putting on the practice and actual greens, I couldn't tell any difference. Driver distance showed the balls to be virtually identical, with #2 having a higher trajectory and softer feel. #3 definitely had a harder, higher compression feel. Dispersion identical. Fairway irons the advantage goes to #2. Dispersion was tighter and my slight draw & direction was right on. Distance control was also better with #2. On a 115 yd approach #3 was slightly shorter and right, while #2 hit an inch from the pin and went in! On two par 3's, the #2 was within 15" of the pin, while the #3 was several yards right. Chipping, I couldn't tell any difference, with spin and rollout very close.  When I reported back to Titleist apparently there were three balls being tested, #2, #3, & #4. I know they won't tell me, but I'd love to know the name of #2, as I'd put that ball in play immediately if and when it becomes available.

In what manner of communications did you report back to Titlist? Did you receive contact information with the balls or separately?

[Shot Scope Users Group]

4 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

it SEEMS pretty idiot proof, but i'm definitely the one to test that theory.  

Everyone has just about covered the minimum impact and the phone is not required on the course.

But, I use the "manual" putting setting. This only requires pushing one button as you stand over the ball - ready for your putt - on each putt you hit. (hopefully only 1 or 2 per hole ). Then as you get your ball out of the hole, you push one button to record the pin location.

I have found that it records the putt distances more accurately for me using the manual method. Perhaps I am settled longer over the ball in my pre-putt routine - pressing the button as one of the last things I do before hitting each putt. I could never figure out how it knew the putt locations if I just pushed "2" putts. Since I tend to make practice putts (without a ball) while standing around waiting for other players to putt - I just didn't know how it determines practice putt from real putt.

I don't even have the tag in my putter. Manual works much better for me.

[Shot Scope Users Group]

4 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

If you're looking to ad or change out clubs, i.e. wouldn't it be easier just to use one of the extra sensors, X1, etc?

In some cases, yes. But there are a limited number of tags.

You can change out clubs in the bag easily - and each club gets a different color. After 4 or 5 GW clubs, it is very difficult in editing and viewing stats to remember which GW color is the "Ping 52" and which is the "Mizuno 52" if that makes sense. Can always go the bag section and see but that is not always convenient.

And where you create a 2nd "Ping 425" driver because you swapped the shaft out and want the stats tracked separately. Now you have two "Ping 425" drivers in your club area and unless you can remember which color is which shaft you can't tell the difference. After 5 or 6 shafts it becomes impossible for an old guy like me. Maybe trying to use the system to track performance stats for that many different shafts is beyond what the system is designed to do - but to me would not be difficult to extend.

Besides I think it would be cute to see my favorite wedge named "floppy" displayed on the performance page instead of just a Blue color "LW"

[Shot Scope Users Group]

Started with the V2 a couple of years ago and now the V3. As stated above, only way to reset database is to delete ALL the rounds one by one which can be a daunting task if you have a lot of rounds.

If you move the tags to a different club (same brand or different doesn't matter) it will "assign" a different color to the new club. Tracking will be by "color" so stats will not be mixed. (My understanding)

That being said, I did contact support a couple of years ago to "delete" my database so I could start new. After several emails to ensure I understood the process was a total wipe and not reversible, they did do the deletion for me. But they strongly recommended against the process.

My issue was that I had created several drivers because I was trying different shafts and wanted different stats. After a few it becomes very confusing which color is which shaft (since the club selection in the dropdown boxes is the same on each club).

I have suggested that they create a user supplied "text" field to allow naming the club and show the name on the stats pages. I don't know if that is in the plans but I hope so. After 8 or 10 shafts I saw that I should have created a separate spreadsheet to identify shaft to color arrangement. Something that seems a waste for such a system. I can remember my little "names" but not which color they might be.

I have the same issue now with wedges, since I change them out quite often, I just can't remember which wedge is the blue one and which is the red one. So I have basically stopped using the track function until I can assign my own name to the club.

Still love the system and when I do use it I have no issues in the accuracy or performance.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

Haven't started testing but did float my 6 balls in Epsom Salt bath. They were all perfectly balanced as near as I can tell. Always came up in a different spot and never a hint of a heavy side.

Encouraging at least.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

Just a guess but the code stamps are probably manufacturing quality control codes to identify different molds and/or manufacturing fixtures and not specific to the design of the balls. We always used QC markings for identity purposes.

[Titleist Blind Ball Test Thread]

Hard to wait for the balls to arrive.

My goal is to test the balls using known performance clubs and compare them not only to each other but also to my current ball and see if I can see any difference between the 3 cohorts.

Driver looking at not only distance but launch angle and dispersion. (Hope to see differences)

Mid irons looking for height and distance

Short clubs looking at roll out vs. carry distance from fairway and rough

Wedges at rollout vs. carry distance vs. loft

If I can get all that straight it will be a miracle in itself. Then I plan on cutting one of each open to see what it looks like - IF that is allowed and not prohibited I plan on posting results and pictures here.

[My Golf Spy Ball Lab Report-Maxfli Tour]

5 hours ago, GolfSpy_CS said:

I was just about to ask if anyone had float tested them.  So their cores were centered?  Meaning a different spot floated to the top each time?  Or they had just marked their alignment line on the light side so that spot came up consistently?

I bought 2 dozen of the Tour (not the X) and floated them last week. I wanted to see if the alignment line would tell me anything.

All of the 24 balls were in balance - in that a different spot came up each time. There was no  "light side" for the alignment line to be placed on. Small sample size but excellent results.

I did float 3 of the 2019 Tour left in my bag - 1 of them had a heavy side - but of course they didn't have the alignment line. Still 1 out of 3 was surprising considering the 0 out of 24 for the 2021 balls.

[MGS X TheGrint Memorial Open! - Winners Announced]

Have to agree with most of the above comments. I have used TheGrint for several years and loved the initial excitement at MGS when the first event started.

However, the first event was more math related than golf and the 2nd event is still unknown as to how the winner was decided (and several weeks late in that decision). 

I will continue to use TheGrint because it is still the easiest app I found for entering data on the course. Now, that might change if the link to WHS is broken with the new USGA requirements. I am hopeful that TheGrint will be able to work out a solution. Time will tell.

That being said, if the 3rd event is as badly managed as the first two then it will be my last one. Really disappointed in what could have been a great year with the MGS/Grint combo.

[MGS X TheGrint The Open Championship - Winners Announced!]

Going with a hot hand - Jon Rahm for low round on the final day.

[MGS X TheGrint Memorial Open! - Winners Announced]

8 hours ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

Wait, can we even track the total feet distance for putts on the grint?

No, I don't think TheGrint can give you total feet of putts made. Hope my comment didn't lead anyone astray.

I do use Shot Scope V3 for giving me distances for each shot taken and use the "manual" method for collecting putts and marking pin locations. It works fairly well and gives stats. Of course GPS accuracy is not always the greatest but if you use it over a lot of rounds then the numbers come out pretty close. For my game and purposes it has worked well for me.

I use TheGrint for on course score keeping and it also keeps stats. I started using it several years ago because the user interface is so simple to enter the score, fairway, putts and bunker/penalty information that I can do that quicker than I can write it on a scorecard and it saves all the data. Now it is even tied to the WHS handicap system so that posting is done automatically for me.

I tell you the new technology is fantastic. The days of keeping all the coded info on a scorecard and then entering it into an Excel spreadsheet hoping to get a little information to help improve is gone and I don't miss it at all.

[MGS X TheGrint Memorial Open! - Winners Announced]

Got my round in - just under the deadline.

 

Not so bad, better than the last two rounds but missed a lot of greens which led to a fair amount of up and downs but very few "total feet made" for putts. Hope the criteria breaks in my direction.

[Why is the PGA Championship Still a Major?]

23 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Because nobody has provided the PGA tour with a great case to drop it and make some other event a major.

Until that happens the majors will remain what they are no matter how many times across the various golf forums and social media platforms golfers complain about the PGA Championship being a major

One major is run by the R&A, one by the USGA, one by a private committee and the PGA is run by the PGA of America. None are run by the PGA Tour so not sure what power the PGA Tour has other than TV money to determine what is a major and not.