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Went golfing in 45 degree weather outside of Boston, MA  on April 30.  Was using a TopFlite distance ball (high handicapper and typically buy my balls as cheap as possible) and Cobra Amp Cell irons (steel stiff) purchased just under three years ago. On the eighth hole (par 3 175 yds) I hit my 5 iron onto the green.  In doing so the head flew off my 5 iron.  The iron snapped right at the base of head.  Disappointed but chalked it up to crappy luck.  Ninth hole I hit my driver and then my 6 iron.  Same exact thing happens to my 6 iron!!  Now I am really concerned.  Was it the weather, the ball, a defect in the club, or maybe a combination of all of these things?  Clubs are well cared for and I don't abuse them at all.  Anyone have thoughts on how this could happen on back to back holes?!  I have attached some pictures.....

 

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By any chance do you leave your clubs in your trunk/car? If you keep your clubs in your car all summer the epoxy heats up and weakens and then in the winter the cold makes the epoxy brittle. Just a possibility.

 

 

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Honestly not trying to be a dick but did you catch these a little fat? With it being that temperature the ground may have been pretty hard still. Combine that with a fat shot and you could have some shaft failure 


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@3under, I don't think that is the case here, the shafts broke off just above the hosel here.

They didn't just come loose and fly off.

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@numberonecoog I did not hit either shot fat (though as a high handicapper I have certainly hit my fair share of fat shots). Despite the temperature the ground wasn't that hard. 

 

Only other additional information is that my swing speed (on monitor at least) is high 90's.  Clubs are also not left in car and the fact that they snapped leads me to believe it wasn't an epoxy issue.

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The only conclusion I can come to from the previous posts is that maybe they were just breaking down. Maybe one too many fat shots in the past? It's definitely weird. Three years isn't that old either.

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It wasn't warm enough for any epoxy issue. I'd contact Cobra and explain to them what happened. I'd say a defect in the parts or incorrectly put together. Hopefully they will take care of you.

 

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That sucks, like GolfHacker said I would contact Cobra, and see what they can do.

Let us know what happens.


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As a follow up I contacted Cobra and they said to bring them to an authorized dealer and they could advise me on the next step.  Since I am out of warranty they will quote me a price to have them re-shafted and create a ticket to be sent to Cobra for repair.  To be continued......

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When you wash your grips, do you dunk your grip in a bucket of water by chance? That will cause shafts to rust from the inside out and break down quicker as the moisture can't escape faster than oxidation occurs.

 

If they were graphite I'd say it's likely from the hosels not being properly prepped and debuted before install.


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@RookieBlue7 that is an interesting theory.  At the end of each season I wash my clubs and have dipped the club head in a bucket of warm water to wash them.  I also recently regripped my clubs.  Could the solvent I used also have broken the clubs down due to rust if it got trapped in the shaft?

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I wonder if the clubs didn't get hit pretty hard when you were putting them in or out of storage, or during travel (TSA can be hard on clubs).  Might have cracked a couple of clubs near the top and finished the job when you hit a ball with them.  I've broken a couple shafts before and it is pretty amazing at how thin and fragile they really are if you hit them the wrong way.  Best of luck getting these fixed by Cobra - hopefully they step up for you.  Good news is that it shouldn't cost more than $100 or so to get them reshafted.


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This is really strange. Was the set brand new when you purchased? It looks like they have collared ferrules and both shafts broke off right at the bottom of the collars. Makes me think there wasn't enough epoxy in the gap between the shaft and the hosel. I would press Cobra for a free repair on this one if they were indeed an OEM build.

 

 

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Manufacturing defects look like this. Any big golf store or reputable store will get this fixed free.

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Sorry this happened, that is a bummer. Hope the repair goes smoothly.

 

 

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I broke a Cally Big Bertha bore through one time. Have never seen this. Oh wait, there was a 5 iron incident one time that involved a power box...

 

 

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@RookieBlue7 that is an interesting theory.  At the end of each season I wash my clubs and have dipped the club head in a bucket of warm water to wash them.  I also recently regripped my clubs.  Could the solvent I used also have broken the clubs down due to rust if it got trapped in the shaft?

Solvent wouldn't do it as it's spirits based and usually has some type of surfactant in it.  I know water will do it as I've had to replace iron shafts for my uncle in a few sets.  He cleans them by submerging them in a bucket of water for a few minutes then scrub and plunges them again to wash the soap off.  I've told him to quit doing it and I swear he does it more often now... Regardless, I know it happens and I've seen it.  Look and see how much rust is inside the shafts if you can.


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Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I had a wedge shaft break where the bottom of the grip meets the shaft.  I went to Myrtle Beach and played 10 courses in 6 days in August one year.  It rained every day and it was hot.  I brought my clubs into the condo each night and dried them out, but it was very humid too.  A couple of weeks after I got home, I was playing at my course and the club snapped when I hit the ground.  All I was holding was the grip.  It rusted right at the grip.


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Solvent wouldn't do it as it's spirits based and usually has some type of surfactant in it.  I know water will do it as I've had to replace iron shafts for my uncle in a few sets.  He cleans them by submerging them in a bucket of water for a few minutes then scrub and plunges them again to wash the soap off.  I've told him to quit doing it and I swear he does it more often now... Regardless, I know it happens and I've seen it.  Look and see how much rust is inside the shafts if you can.

Having your irons submerged under water will do it as well.  Found that out the hard way.......


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