MNUte Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 So watching highlights from the first round of the Farmers Insurance Open, I was again pleasantly reminded that Jon Rahm is another "non-traditional" swinger. Rahm almost never goes past 9 o'clock in his backswing, has a pretty flat swing, and yet still gets power (multiple 295+ carry drives) and spin. Watching him, Matt Wolfe and others over the past few seasons have been helpful reinforcement of the idea that you can be successful without being 100 percent by the book. Between that and DJ's mantra of never hitting with more than 75% power (or whatever level you lose control beyond) has helped my game immensely. So who are some of your favorite "Non-traditional" swingers? And have you gained any insights or knowledge from watching them? BIG STU and Micah T 2 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I don’t believe in the concept of a “traditional swing” Everyone has their own swing. Trevino, Jack, Arnie, Player. Seve, Norman, Tiger. However they all do a good job at pressure shifts and getting the club in a good position in/around p6 and thru impact. They hall had different finishing positions too. Many consider Adam Scott to have the “perfect” swing but if you listen to Gankas talk about his time Scott you’ll learn he had faults that he wanted to fix. BIG STU, RollingGreens, MNUte and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
Micah T Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Pro’s might all be different at takeaway and at the top, but all virtually identical at impact...Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment
GolfSpy MPR Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Micah T said: Pro’s might all be different at takeaway and at the top, but all virtually identical at impact... I don't think that's true: EDIT: I'm not trying to be abrupt or confrontational. But that is a line I've read and heard often. It is certainly the case that there is more obvious variety in swings in the takeaway and transition then there is at impact. But there are still non-trivial variations at impact. I suspect it would be difficult for DJ to get from his backswing to Furyk's impact position and vice versa. IDontGiveAchuck 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
ncwoz Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: I don't think that's true: EDIT: I'm not trying to be abrupt or confrontational. But that is a line I've read and heard often. It is certainly the case that there is more obvious variety in swings in the takeaway and transition then there is at impact. But there are still non-trivial variations at impact. I suspect it would be difficult for DJ to get from his backswing to Furyk's impact position and vice versa. I'm just still amazed that Furyk can get into Furyk's position at impact haha silver & black, Micah T, wolfpacker92 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Right Handed Driver: 9° Speedzone (HZRDUS Smoke Green 70g X-Stiff shaft) 2 Hybrid: 18° Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here) 3/Driving Iron: 18° UiHi Iron (MMT Utility TX 105g shaft) Irons: 4-GW T100 irons (Nippon Modus 120 X-Stiff shafts) (2021 MGS Official Review here) Wedges: 54° & 58° TSW Forged (Dynamic Gold S300) Putter: ER2B (2019 MGS Official Review here) Ball: MAXFLI Tour X Bag: Hoofer Lite WITB thread here Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: I don't think that's true: EDIT: I'm not trying to be abrupt or confrontational. But that is a line I've read and heard often. It is certainly the case that there is more obvious variety in swings in the takeaway and transition then there is at impact. But there are still non-trivial variations at impact. I suspect it would be difficult for DJ to get from his backswing to Furyk's impact position and vice versa. Yea they all have some uniqueness to their impact positions that match up with they wrist angles and the way the body has to rotate and release but at impact what you will find is the pressure on the lead leg, some amount of right bend for righties and left bend for lefties with some bend in the trail arm and shaft lean with irons. Hips are going to be open around 30* and shoulders starting to open. There’s some exceptions like rickie whose hips stall because of his steeper shaft as a result of a flat back swing and he then has to throw arms/hands at the ball to square up Micah T 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
russtopherb Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Perhaps a better way to phrase things is that "all that matters is what happens at impact". There are lots of ways to deliver a club, some more efficient than others, however as long as the ball's being hit in a way where the face and club path match up to give the desired flight, then it's a good swing. Micah T and 00sportsman 2 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
00sportsman Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Perhaps a better way to phrase things is that "all that matters is what happens at impact". There are lots of ways to deliver a club, some more efficient than others, however as long as the ball's being hit in a way where the face and club path match up to give the desired flight, then it's a good swing.I saw a spot on television a looong time ago where an instructor was making this very point. He kept hitting balls with the ugliest swings he could invent, but would square the club face and path up at impact. Really nice shots no matter what the swing looked like.I wish I could remember who it was.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Micah T 1 Quote I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment
Kenny B Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 How about Hosung Choi... Micah T, 00sportsman, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and 2 others 4 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
cnosil Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, 00sportsman said: I saw a spot on television a looong time ago where an instructor was making this very point. He kept hitting balls with the ugliest swings he could invent, but would square the club face and path up at impact. Really nice shots no matter what the swing looked like. I wish I could remember who it was. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Adam Young has been doing something similar recently. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CKh4vyyJfmJ/ Micah T and 00sportsman 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
Micah T Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don't think that's true: EDIT: I'm not trying to be abrupt or confrontational. But that is a line I've read and heard often. It is certainly the case that there is more obvious variety in swings in the takeaway and transition then there is at impact. But there are still non-trivial variations at impact. I suspect it would be difficult for DJ to get from his backswing to Furyk's impact position and vice versa.I wouldn’t take it from you as “confrontational”: I love that disagreement doesn’t mean a flame-fest here. I should clarify that what I mean is that most pro’s:Cover the ball with their chestHave forward shaft lean at impact Continue rotating past impactClub exits low and left Like these gents...There are always exceptions of courseSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy MNUte, GolfSpy MPR and RickyBobby_PR 3 Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment
Hook DeLoft Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I enjoy watching unusual swings. Bob Rosburg, Doug Sanders, Miller Barber, Lee Trevino, Jim Furyk, Matthew Wolf. My favorite is Eamonn Darcy. Now, that is an odd looking swing. MNUte 1 Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment
JalanK Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) I enjoyed watching Craig Stadler, Ray Floyd, Payne Stewart, Jim Furyk, Lee Trevino, Fred Couples and Bruce Lietzke. Lietzke grooved an over the top fade, which required little practice to maintain, and made a good living never playing more than 25 tournaments in a year. All had different swings, but all of them played well. Edited February 6, 2021 by JalanK Quote Link to comment
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