LICC Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Preeway said: Not a popularity contest at all. JT has a proven track record in match play. He probably deserved it less than Bradley but he’s a known commodity in this event. Lucas Glover was an easy pass. There is no valid argument that picking JT was based on merit. You should make the Ryder Cup team by being one of the best players of the year. JT has been terrible all year. He robbed a spot that others were more deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I don’t think they has ever been the standard for the captains picks. Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Velocore+ Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Pro X3+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Preeway said: I don’t think they has ever been the standard for the captains picks. I agree. if you want to make the team based on performance then play well enough to get an automatic pick. The captains picks are designed to round out the team with experience, new blood, locker room/course presence, and relationships with the other players. Stuka44 and Preeway 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, cnosil said: I agree. if you want to make the team based on performance then play well enough to get an automatic pick. The captains picks are designed to round out the team with experience, new blood, locker room/course presence, and relationships with the other players. Obviously, the captains picks have to improve the team in some manner or they are bad picks. We won’t know if JT was a bad pick until it’s too late. Same for Burns. But I think it’s very fair to debate what/who would make the team better. cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Velocore+ Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Pro X3+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Preeway said: Obviously, the captains picks have to improve the team in some manner or they are bad picks. We won’t know if JT was a bad pick until it’s too late. Same for Burns. But I think it’s very fair to debate what/who would make the team better. There are always debates on the picks; Suzann Peterson is facing criticism in her Solheim picks. Based on recent performance JT doesn't seem like a good pick, but I think you have to look at his and Speith's partnership in Ryder and Presidents cups which makes him a good pick. RwsGolf1 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 21 hours ago, Shrek74 said: have been in the Ryder Cup already Not only Ryder Cup but stats, but all match play. I found this site includes all match play statistics players have been in. https://adamsarson.com/match-play-records/ I listed some stats previously. All captains picks very good match play records. Preeway 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Stuka44 said: Not only Ryder Cup but stats, but all match play. I found this site includes all match play statistics players have been in. https://adamsarson.com/match-play-records/ I listed some stats previously. All captains picks very good match play records. One of the XM PGA radio guys suggested that JT will likely not play alternate shot. That makes sense to me given his inconsistent play this year. But I still think he will be pretty decent at the Ryder Cup. He's a grinder and Bones is probably one of the best caddies on the Tour. So they will be tough to beat in Four Ball if he's partnered with some strong players. Preeway and RwsGolf1 2 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 23 hours ago, Preeway said: Not a popularity contest at all. JT has a proven track record in match play. He probably deserved it less than Bradley but he’s a known commodity in this event. Lucas Glover was an easy pass. Zach knew he would be under the microscope for the last 1 or 2 picks. He is used to the pressure, so he will do great. But Europe at home is going to be very hard for Team USA. I think people don't realize how many distractions happen on the course during the Ryder Cup. As an example. All the close family members are watching every shot from a golf cart following the group. Being able to handle these types of distractions takes a ton of experience. Preeway 1 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 IF Europe wins, the picks will definitely be criticized. If the US wins, all will be well in the world of Captains Picks. Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I know not an exact comparison, but match play is very different than stroke play. Just like the fact that the Bryan brothers in tennis won 16 major titles, in doubles and many many more in non major tournaments, but neither one of them won a singles title. Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_KFT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 @Golfspy_CG2 been doing my best to bide my time and not sound like an overly anxious kid trying to get to Christmas day buuuuut any word on a Ryder Cup competition similar to the Major contests?!? Or are you keeping us in the dark regardless to ramp up anticipation? RockerFCC and tucker_jct 2 Quote Driver: GT3 9|Tour AD-UB 6S (testing in progress) Fairways: GT2 15 & 18|Tour AD-UB 7S (testing in progress) | Aerojet Max 7|Kai'Li White 70X Hybrid: King TEC 3H|MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW|KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM10 52.12F|56.12D|True Temper Vokey Wedge Flex Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour & ProV1 #LeftyGang Titleist GT Long Game Test (Link Here) Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stuka44 said: I know not an exact comparison, but match play is very different than stroke play. Just like the fact that the Bryan brothers in tennis won 16 major titles, in doubles and many many more in non major tournaments, but neither one of them won a singles title. Absolutely. Some people just thrive in match play events. Edited September 8, 2023 by JStapp RockerFCC 1 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 6:23 PM, JStapp said: Hard to leave Lowry off the team though.. There has to be a mixture of players, I've always thought major winners are the players that can handle the pressure better than most and should make the foundation of the team. Hopefully Lowry will show some form over the next 2 weeks that justify his inclusion. 2 x 68s at the Irish Open over the last 2 days is a good start. RwsGolf1 and RockerFCC 2 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) On 9/9/2023 at 2:58 AM, Alf. S said: There has to be a mixture of players, I've always thought major winners are the players that can handle the pressure better than most and should make the foundation of the team. Hopefully Lowry will show some form over the next 2 weeks that justify his inclusion. 2 x 68s at the Irish Open over the last 2 days is a good start. House hold names are just hard to leave out if you've had success, which they have. It will be a crazy event. I don't believe either team made any mistakes with their team in my opinion. Edited September 11, 2023 by JStapp Preeway and RockerFCC 2 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwsGolf1 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, JStapp said: House hold names are just hard to leave out if you've had success, which they have. It will be a crazy event. I don't believe either team made any mistakes with their team in my opinion. At this point, I would tend to agree with you. Good experience and some up and comers who have shown the ability to get it done. I think it should be an exciting Cup! RockerFCC and JStapp 2 Quote A former plus handicapper who must settle for mid 70s to mid 80 scores today. After taking 10 years off due to back issues, my driver length has decreased by 40 yards on average. I look forward to any training aids, shaft improvements, club enhancements to get back part of what was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JStapp said: House hold names are just hard to leave out if you've had success, which they have. It will be a crazy event. I don't believe either team made any mistakes with their team in my opinion. I definitely agree. Although the final outcome will determine how much second guessing comes into play. One of the captains is going to take a lot of heat for their choices. Josh Parker, RockerFCC and JStapp 3 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Velocore+ Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Pro X3+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 hours ago, JStapp said: House hold names are just hard to leave out if you've had success, which they have. It will be a crazy event. I don't believe either team made any mistakes with their team in my opinion. At Whistling Straits Lee Westwood (a household name and Europe stalwart) made it as the last automatic pick, piping Robert MacIntyre. He was interviewed after the PGA at Wentworth and his interview was just terrible full of apathy and basically was neither up nor down if he qualified. And it showed when he played. Some people say europe will miss the LIV players, my views is that they would have been relying on a pick and after 2021 where Garcia, Poulter and Westwood contributed a grand total of 3 points out of a possible 10, there time has gone. RockerFCC, JStapp and Preeway 3 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 We are officially 2 weeks out from a greeting from Marco Simone Golf and Country Club. Teams are set. Long term weather reports are showing some rain and wind. What is everybody's prediction moving forward? Pick a side and a total! Give me.... USA at 15 -13 victory! Josh Parker and RockerFCC 2 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTH1 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Heart goes to US, but head goes to EU, 16 1/2 to 11 1/2. RockerFCC, JStapp and GaDawg 3 Quote TSR2 driver 10 Cobra ltd fairways 3 and 7 Cobra forged tec irons 5-P Callaway wedges 54 and 58 TaylorMade del monte 7 face balanced putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZTurbo Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 USA breaks the "Eurodrought" this year with gutsy performances by Brooks, Xman and JT, who goes 2-1-1 to justify Captain Zach's pick and rally the US to a 15.5-12.5 win! JStapp and RockerFCC 2 Quote Gantwerk Golf World's highest handicap PXG player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I always pull for the USA, but think Europe will win. The USA needs to get away from selecting via the good ole boy (The Click)system. LICC, RockerFCC and JStapp 3 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Qi10 - 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.0 Stiff 3 Wood: Qi10 - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff 5 Wood: Qi10 - Ventus TR Reg Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 9 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Justin Thomas getting hot at the right time…? Let’s hope RockerFCC, Josh Parker, BallsLeon and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/11/2023 at 1:16 PM, Preeway said: I definitely agree. Although the final outcome will determine how much second guessing comes into play. One of the captains is going to take a lot of heat for their choices. How it always goes down for sure. One side will always take heat for the picks when they lose. Makes it awesome haha RockerFCC 1 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 15 hours ago, JStapp said: Justin Thomas getting hot at the right time…? Let’s hope He's been so good off the tee this week. Was fun to watch him and Theegala group on Friday. Don't have Peacock/Golf to watch the last two rounds sadly . RockerFCC, Josh Parker and JStapp 3 Quote Driver : GBB Epic, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (44.75") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Hybrid: Z H85, 19° loft, HZRDUS Black 85g, 5.5 flex Irons: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright) Putter: DS72 C, 35”, PP60 grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStapp Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BallsLeon said: He's been so good off the tee this week. Was fun to watch him and Theegala group on Friday. Don't have Peacock/Golf to watch the last two rounds sadly . Let’s hope this is a sign of things to come RockerFCC, Josh Parker and BallsLeon 3 Quote Driver: Ai SmokeTriple Diamond G425 MAX 12* w/ 3 Wood shaft Utility 3 Iron Irons: Srixon ZX7 Wedges: SM10 50* 54* F Grinds and SM9 58* M Grind Putter: Evnroll EV5 GolfBall: 2023 ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwsGolf1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 1:48 PM, KC Golf said: Zach knew he would be under the microscope for the last 1 or 2 picks. He is used to the pressure, so he will do great. But Europe at home is going to be very hard for Team USA. I think people don't realize how many distractions happen on the course during the Ryder Cup. As an example. All the close family members are watching every shot from a golf cart following the group. Being able to handle these types of distractions takes a ton of experience. I Like Keegan as well, especially in the Ryder Cup. His best was with Mickelson as his partner. Since no Phil, may have been part of the decision process. I am glad that JT looks as though he has found his game at the right time. RockerFCC 1 Quote A former plus handicapper who must settle for mid 70s to mid 80 scores today. After taking 10 years off due to back issues, my driver length has decreased by 40 yards on average. I look forward to any training aids, shaft improvements, club enhancements to get back part of what was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwsGolf1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 After watching the final round of the BMW, it looks like most of the Euro Team is playing well. Two weeks to go, I hope that the Cup is competitive for both, not looking for the one-sided after first two days. RockerFCC 1 Quote A former plus handicapper who must settle for mid 70s to mid 80 scores today. After taking 10 years off due to back issues, my driver length has decreased by 40 yards on average. I look forward to any training aids, shaft improvements, club enhancements to get back part of what was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 https://golf.com/news/sergio-garcia-pitch-ryder-cup-report-money-events/ Glad he's missing out! Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwsGolf1 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Kanoito said: https://golf.com/news/sergio-garcia-pitch-ryder-cup-report-money-events/ Glad he's missing out! Wow, I have never been a fan of Sergio, this is just icing on the cake! Quote A former plus handicapper who must settle for mid 70s to mid 80 scores today. After taking 10 years off due to back issues, my driver length has decreased by 40 yards on average. I look forward to any training aids, shaft improvements, club enhancements to get back part of what was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Looks like Scheffler has finally made a move to improve his terrible putting. He's now working with putting coach Phil Kenyon at the Ryder Cup Preeway, RockerFCC and JohnSmalls 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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