yungkory Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 5 hours ago, G-Ram said: I sent an email today, no reply yet. If I had to guess, another 2-3 weeks. Was holding out hope it would arrive by this Thursday, as I'm headed to Nova Scotia for the Canadian Team Titleist event, but no joy there I ordered on 6/1 (technically 6/2 since I placed my order at night, Hawaii time) and got mine 7/1. The wait sucks for sure! jbern and Cfhandyman 2 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: DF3 x Accra Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I got Nemo out this morning for 9 holes. I was very pleased with how my putting is improving. Especially distance control. My 2-putts are finishing closer to the hole after the 1st putt. I also had a 1-putt of 18-feet today. I continue to use the DF3 from off of the green. My only three putt was from a skulled wedge that left me putting downhill from over 30 feet. It didn't end well. The numbers today. One 3-putt. Six 2-putts and two one putts. My mantra with the DF3 is point and let the putter do the work. "Calm hands". CFreddie, Middler, yungkory and 3 others 4 2 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfsh00ter Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Terrific thread and contributors here, been reading it for the last month or so. I got fitted into a 32.5”/72deg Link.1 last summer with Accra shaft by Club Champion. I had never heard of LAB, but was the most consistent with it during the fitting process so I decided to pull the trigger on a $750 putter. They built it with my grip (GolfPride Tour SNSR 140cc - which weighs 130g). My Link.1 experience was that it was a champ for helping me to start my putts on target and on-line consistently, almost point and shoot like. But I struggled mightily with pace control and a lack of feel. I went back for another fitting and the laser tool showed that I was presenting the face loft too upright (green laser dot was not even hitting the wall). Not ideal and not a good fit for me…. And the more I researched pace control the more info I came across about putter weight, so I weighed the Link and it was 607g with my preferred grip on it. Vs my research saying “ideal” putter weight should be in the 530-545g range. I know the grip added ~50g but it would still weigh almost 550g. Anyways, I ended up getting fitted into an Edel Array F3 putter and I’m much better with it. I wanted to like the DF3 but I can’t get past the negative loft (in my case) and the hands forward press look at address. Maybe someday I’ll give whatever the newest LAB model is a try, because I’m a believer. But I do wonder if the heavier putter weights and relatively upright fixed 2deg putter loft that LAB’s technology currently limits you to are also negatively impacting others? Did anyone else struggle with pace? Cfhandyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) ^^^ Interesting. Made me go weigh my two putters. Clearly the Link.1 is very different than the DF3, but my 35" DF3 w Accra shaft & Press Pistol 2º grip (58g) is 497g. My 35" Evnroll ER5B with P2 Touch Tour grip (85g) is 519g. I know I am sensitive to weight as I used to have an Evnroll EV5.3 and I increased the weights (added 30g w 2x29g weights) in the sole assuming it would help me keep the putter on path. It hurt my distance control and didn't help path, so I went back to the stock weights (2x14g). I am sure I would never get along with a 607g putter, but there is no universal right answer - to each his/her own. Edited July 4 by Middler Cfhandyman 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize LAB DF3 w Accra Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 001 F (mesh), Payntr X 005 F, Ecco Biom C4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 9 hours ago, golfsh00ter said: Terrific thread and contributors here, been reading it for the last month or so. I got fitted into a 32.5”/72deg Link.1 last summer with Accra shaft by Club Champion. I had never heard of LAB, but was the most consistent with it during the fitting process so I decided to pull the trigger on a $750 putter. They built it with my grip (GolfPride Tour SNSR 140cc - which weighs 130g). My Link.1 experience was that it was a champ for helping me to start my putts on target and on-line consistently, almost point and shoot like. But I struggled mightily with pace control and a lack of feel. I went back for another fitting and the laser tool showed that I was presenting the face loft too upright (green laser dot was not even hitting the wall). Not ideal and not a good fit for me…. And the more I researched pace control the more info I came across about putter weight, so I weighed the Link and it was 607g with my preferred grip on it. Vs my research saying “ideal” putter weight should be in the 530-545g range. I know the grip added ~50g but it would still weigh almost 550g. Anyways, I ended up getting fitted into an Edel Array F3 putter and I’m much better with it. I wanted to like the DF3 but I can’t get past the negative loft (in my case) and the hands forward press look at address. Maybe someday I’ll give whatever the newest LAB model is a try, because I’m a believer. But I do wonder if the heavier putter weights and relatively upright fixed 2deg putter loft that LAB’s technology currently limits you to are also negatively impacting others? Did anyone else struggle with pace? Thanks for the compliment and you have a very interesting putter story. Pace is not something that I struggled with throughout this test. Yes, I have hit a putt poorly that lead to leaving putts well short or long, but it was more due to incorrect reads/poor distance guessing. I do have the counterbalance option on the DF3 and right about the time the DF3 test was announced, MyGolfSpy came out with an article about counterbalance putters and indicated that for the right person, counterbalance could be something that considerably helps with pace control. I don't know if this was true for me, but I do know that it made the transition from my armlock putter to the DF3 much smoother. The counterbalance version also doesn't have the integrated shaft lean like the Press II series of grips. All this to say, if you're interested in giving the DF3 a go again, maybe the counterbalance version would be something to toss in the hat. Michael.Sandoval33, mpatrickriley and Cfhandyman 2 1 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 12 hours ago, golfsh00ter said: Terrific thread and contributors here, been reading it for the last month or so. I got fitted into a 32.5”/72deg Link.1 last summer with Accra shaft by Club Champion. I had never heard of LAB, but was the most consistent with it during the fitting process so I decided to pull the trigger on a $750 putter. They built it with my grip (GolfPride Tour SNSR 140cc - which weighs 130g). My Link.1 experience was that it was a champ for helping me to start my putts on target and on-line consistently, almost point and shoot like. But I struggled mightily with pace control and a lack of feel. I went back for another fitting and the laser tool showed that I was presenting the face loft too upright (green laser dot was not even hitting the wall). Not ideal and not a good fit for me…. And the more I researched pace control the more info I came across about putter weight, so I weighed the Link and it was 607g with my preferred grip on it. Vs my research saying “ideal” putter weight should be in the 530-545g range. I know the grip added ~50g but it would still weigh almost 550g. Anyways, I ended up getting fitted into an Edel Array F3 putter and I’m much better with it. I wanted to like the DF3 but I can’t get past the negative loft (in my case) and the hands forward press look at address. Maybe someday I’ll give whatever the newest LAB model is a try, because I’m a believer. But I do wonder if the heavier putter weights and relatively upright fixed 2deg putter loft that LAB’s technology currently limits you to are also negatively impacting others? Did anyone else struggle with pace? Not an official tester but I've had issues in the past with my DF 2.1 and speed control, specifically having a hard time getting the ball to the cup. Not sure if it was the face being soft, or the stability tour shaft, but it was a struggle and I would always need to make a conscious effort to hit it hard. The DF3 feels firmer off the face, and overall the putter feels more solid with the Accra shaft in practice. Still waiting for my maiden voyage round since getting my DF3 earlier this week. Michael.Sandoval33, Cfhandyman and jbern 2 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: DF3 x Accra Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 The Lab rat continues to impress and is slowly turning into a long range bombing threat from anywhere on the green. Yesterday, a 35 footer for birdie. In almost 25 rounds of play with the L.A.B. DF3, a number of 20+ foot putts made. My longest to date, a 68 footer. Other side of the green, it felt like I was putting from a different area code and all I was trying to do, is get it somewhere close to the hole. In all honesty, I knew I was looking at at least a three putt. To my utter shock and amazement, the closer it got to the hole, I thought hey this looks pretty good and it kept rolling and rolling straight into the cup. Still can't believe that one. Overall, although make percentage from 20 plus feet is low (< 2%), its not zero. But it does show that if you get the read, the line and the speed right, it has a chance. MattWillGolf, jbern and Jim Shaw 2 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Special Edition - MGS Tester of the Week – Rearviewmirror Profile In the MyGolfSpy Tester of the week for the L.A.B. DF3, we are making a slight change. We have highlighted all the official testers and moderators for the testing. In a change of pace, we are now highlighting some of the unofficial testers for their outstanding contributions. This weeks, Tester of the week is none other than @Rearviewmirror. A special and sincere thanks to @Rearviewmirror for consenting to this as well as providing the content and pictures. Editors comment: He provides a very unique perspective and overview in that he has used and played with the L.A.B. Link.1, L.A.B. Mezz and now the L.A.B. DF3 and his experiences with each. Enjoy. Where’s he from: @Rearviewmirror grew up in Ireland (where golf is public, plentiful, and cheap), and has lived in the Washington DC area since 2018. He plays most of his golf on muni's, occasionally splashing out for golf at special courses in MD/VA and CA. Who he is: He has played golf since he was 13 years old, mostly hovering around an 18 handicap as a child. He got back into golf after a lengthy lay off in 2023, and has gotten down to around a 15 handicap. While putting was a real strength as a child, Since getting back into golf, putting has been the most inconsistent part of his game. While he still has deep emotional attachment to his 1998 Scottie Cameron Tei3, the stats said it was time to make a change. Current testing: He started out his LAB journey in October of 2023 with a Link.1 and while it massively improved his lag distance control, he had a hard time finding consistency inside of 8 feet. After rolling the Mezz.1 at a PGA Superstore, he took the plunge and switched to a mallet for the first time ever. Unfortunately this reversed the problem - with everything inside 8ft becoming automatic, and lag putts becoming really challenging. At long last, he made the switch to the DF3. Conclusions: The DF3 has provided the "best of both worlds" for him - combining the lag speed control of the Link.1 and the reliability inside 8ft. Without doubt, putting has become a strong point in his game again - so much so that currently putting only contributes 8% to his "areas for improvement" across the rest of his golf game - the DF3 is definitely staying in his bag! Edited July 6 by Cfhandyman CFreddie, jbern, TJ Hall and 3 others 2 4 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Thanks very much @Cfhandyman - my main takeaway from writing this up was that I need to pull out the ExPutt haha! jbern, MattWillGolf, ZJeb67 and 4 others 4 3 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfsh00ter Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 @jbern @Middler @yungkory: Thank you for your replies and for sharing your experiences with the DF3 putter weight and its effect on pace. I may keep an eye out for a used DF3 w, 72deg lie and 32.5” length and give it a go someday. jbern, yungkory, CFreddie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Yesterday, I went to the course with three of our children. We walked nine holes together, and they also got in some practice for their upcoming first round of Drive, Chip, and Putt for the season. During the round, I believe I had a first for my DF3: the first time I finished a round gaining strokes putting on a scratch golfer. Really didn't do anything "impressive" during the round. I had one chip-in and left a few other short game shots to kick-in range, and the DF3 obliged by kicking them in. The three mid-range putts (12, 20, and 20) were all solid; the second 20-footer caught the upper lip and spun out. The final hole, I had a long uphill putt that I left about 4' past the hole. The comeback was a delicate, downhill left-breaker that could easily roll further away than I started if missed, but I dropped it in the center of the cup. 12 total putts for nine holes. CFreddie, MattWillGolf, TJ Hall and 3 others 2 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 22 hours ago, Cfhandyman said: The Lab rat continues to impress and is slowly turning into a long range bombing threat from anywhere on the green. Yesterday, a 35 footer for birdie. In almost 25 rounds of play with the L.A.B. DF3, a number of 20+ foot putts made. My longest to date, a 68 footer. Other side of the green, it felt like I was putting from a different area code and all I was trying to do, is get it somewhere close to the hole. In all honesty, I knew I was looking at at least a three putt. To my utter shock and amazement, the closer it got to the hole, I thought hey this looks pretty good and it kept rolling and rolling straight into the cup. Still can't believe that one. Overall, although make percentage from 20 plus feet is low (< 2%), its not zero. But it does show that if you get the read, the line and the speed right, it has a chance. I am seeing more longer range putts dropping as well. Last night at golf leagueI made a 21-footer. This is occurring a a greater frequency than with any other putter I have gamed. Cfhandyman, CFreddie, mynerds and 1 other 4 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 More evidence that the L.A.B. is a long range bomber. Courtesy of Wesley Bryan and Bryan Bros golf. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8agiBBOvyX/?igsh=MWFtM211cjRlNWU3bA== KC Golf, jbern, MattWillGolf and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, Cfhandyman said: More evidence that the L.A.B. is a long range bomber. Courtesy of Wesley Bryan and Bryan Bros golf. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8agiBBOvyX/?igsh=MWFtM211cjRlNWU3bA== Wow! My first thought, "This is how Tony Finau dislocated his ankle at the Masters Par 3 competition." KC Golf, Shapotomous, Cfhandyman and 1 other 4 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 The Bottom line (Executive) Week 11 summary In this weeks edition, the majority of the final reviews have now been posted. I encourage people to check them out as they are exceedingly well done, helpful and informative. We have also had a number of outstanding contributions from several of our unofficial reviewers and moving forward we will begin to highlight them on a weekly basis. Our unofficial tester of the week is @Rearviewmirror and he continues to shares his experience with the DF3. Lots of activity and comments posted. Stay tuned. Best post from the sponsor (L.A.B.’s Sam Hahn) - Message from Sam Hahn, courtesy of @GolfSpy MPR from the LAB Facebook group MGS Tester of the week - @Rearviewmirror https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1093383 Best posts – Final reviews @GolfSpy MPR Just got my final review posted: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/#comment-1051655 @Cfhandyman final review https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1091360 @MattWillGolfMy final review of the L.A.B. Golf DF3 named Nemo @jbern – final review https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1051651 @CFreddie – final review https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1051653 Best photos Best video posts @jbern Not to mention, it passed the pontoon putt test on the first try @GolfSpy MPR Best putting mat location https://content.invisioncic.com/m331004/monthly_2024_07/Untitledvideo(1).mp4.807179444232b592928bdb85c66baf04.mp4 @CFreddie Celebrating let the wookie win Best lines @jbern Not to mention, it passed the pontoon putt test on the first try @ole gray I've seen a hay barn full of reviews over the years but none better than the one you folks just did on the LAB DF3 putter! Phenomenal job to say the least. From the pictures in your reviews to the statistical data, to the writing skills you exhibited, you all are rock stars. No doubt MyGolfSpy and the folks over at LAB are super proud of the hard work and dedication you all put into this review. If there ever was an event for Coon Hound treeing competition in the Olympics and a review of training tactics, you boys would get the call. Well done Unofficial tester of the week: @Rearviewmirror Links to previous weeks summary Week 10 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1091085 Week 9 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1087911 Week 8 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1084845 Week 7 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1081343 Week 6 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1078830 Week 5 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1074887 Week 4 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1071267 Week 3 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1067276 Week 2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1063554 Week 1 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64035-lab-df3-putters-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1058986 jbern and EnderinAZ 1 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I did an Exputt practice session yesterday morning and I wish I would've done an "analysis" mode session or logged all of the putts on a spreadsheet because it went very well! My very observant daughter was playing in the basement adjacent to the Exputt at the time and she summarized my session best when she said, "Why are you making so many in the cup this time daddy?" cnosil, MattWillGolf, mpatrickriley and 1 other 2 2 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Got to the course this morning with three of my children. Our local course has started a Monday morning kids golf league, so they were each going to play, and then do a practice session for next week's DCP. I brought my clubs so I could practice with them. But when I got to the course, I realized I left my DF3 in my basement, where I had been practicing on the ExPutt. <sniffles> MattWillGolf, Cfhandyman, jbern and 1 other 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 When your wife “borrows” your L.A.B. Putter and then asks, does it come in pink? jbern, CFreddie, MattWillGolf and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, Cfhandyman said: When your wife “borrows” your L.A.B. Putter and then asks, does it come in pink? Did her remote fitting video get submitted or will she be heading to TXG/Club Champion? Cfhandyman and jbern 1 1 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said: Did her remote fitting video get submitted or will she be heading to TXG/Club Champion? Remote fitting video still needs to be sent to confirm length and lie, then a visit to TXG. And a check of the www.Labgolfoutlet.com site. MattWillGolf and jbern 1 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Cfhandyman said: Remote fitting video still needs to be sent to confirm length and lie, then a visit to TXG. And a check of the www.Labgolfoutlet.com site. Excellent. Looking forward to seeing her final set up. jbern and Cfhandyman 2 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 10 hours ago, Cfhandyman said: When your wife “borrows” your L.A.B. Putter and then asks, does it come in pink? Get her contributing on the testing thread! I always thought this thread could use a little pink! Cfhandyman 1 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 10 hours ago, Cfhandyman said: When your wife “borrows” your L.A.B. Putter and then asks, does it come in pink? Yes, yes it does come in pink . Can't wait to see her contributing to this thread! Cfhandyman and jbern 1 1 Quote Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Haywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58) Putter: L.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie") Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Reviews: L.A.B. DF3 Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, jbern said: Get her contributing on the testing thread! I always thought this thread could use a little pink! As much as I would love that, its not her thing. As she told me when I set her up with the Arccos sensors and she never looked at the data, "honey that's what I have you for. " LOL Her goal this year is to "Whup my ass at golf" and she's getting a lot closer. Her best round last year was 82 and she matches me almost shot for shot from a hundred yards in. Art is more her thing. Her first attempt at acrylics. 2 hours ago, CFreddie said: Yes, yes it does come in pink . Can't wait to see her contributing to this thread! Now you know why, I didn't order the L.A.B. in pink. Once it hits her bag, its gone. Her contributions will be, tell me and I post it. She keeps very busy with her artwork and gardening. A sample of her most recent watercolor. rkj427, CFreddie and jbern 3 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Cfhandyman said: As much as I would love that, its not her thing. As she told me when I set her up with the Arccos sensors and she never looked at the data, "honey that's what I have you for. " LOL Her goal this year is to "Whup my ass at golf" and she's getting a lot closer. Her best round last year was 82 and she matches me almost shot for shot from a hundred yards in. Art is more her thing. Her first attempt at acrylics. Now you know why, I didn't order the L.A.B. in pink. Once it hits her bag, its gone. Her contributions will be, tell me and I post it. She keeps very busy with her artwork and gardening. A sample of her most recent watercolor. Whoa - she's an incredible artist! Also, she sounds like my wife (wanting to beat me in golf) jbern and Cfhandyman 2 Quote Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Haywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58) Putter: L.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie") Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Reviews: L.A.B. DF3 Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Another interesting instructional video from Sam Hahn of L.A.B., just posted today: I'd be interested in asking the other testers (and other L.A.B. users): what (if anything) are your feels/focuses when putting with a L.A.B.? I should note here: all my work with the ExPutt confirms something I've known for years: my path is garbage. I'm regularly about 5° out to in (can be more on short putts, typically less on longer putts). I think it was @cnosil who perceptively asked how that kind of stroke would work with L.A.B.'s technology. So far, the answer has been "just fine." For why it works, engage with me in a bit of imaginative speculation. I think most of us on this thread know what the Revealer is. If not, you can get a quick peek here (it is essentially a frame that allows the putter to rotate freely while being swung): The key, if I'm thinking correctly, is that the DF3 (and others) are lie angle balanced, not path balanced. So long as you maintain the lie angle of the DF3, you could in theory move the Revealer in any number of convoluted paths without making the DF3 start spinning. So (to land this discussion) that tends to be my main "swing thought" when putting with the DF3: maintain the lie angle. My main setup thought is to try to have the feel of the my forearms being in a line with the shaft; I have a tendency to raise my arms (and thus, the lie angle). Byrnzee, HikingMike, Cfhandyman and 3 others 2 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 12 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Another interesting instructional video from Sam Hahn of L.A.B., just posted today: I'd be interested in asking the other testers (and other L.A.B. users): what (if anything) are your feels/focuses when putting with a L.A.B.? I should note here: all my work with the ExPutt confirms something I've known for years: my path is garbage. I'm regularly about 5° out to in (can be more on short putts, typically less on longer putts). I think it was @cnosil who perceptively asked how that kind of stroke would work with L.A.B.'s technology. So far, the answer has been "just fine." For why it works, engage with me in a bit of imaginative speculation. I think most of us on this thread know what the Revealer is. If not, you can get a quick peek here (it is essentially a frame that allows the putter to rotate freely while being swung): The key, if I'm thinking correctly, is that the DF3 (and others) are lie angle balanced, not path balanced. So long as you maintain the lie angle of the DF3, you could in theory move the Revealer in any number of convoluted paths without making the DF3 start spinning. So (to land this discussion) that tends to be my main "swing thought" when putting with the DF3: maintain the lie angle. My main setup thought is to try to have the feel of the my forearms being in a line with the shaft; I have a tendency to raise my arms (and thus, the lie angle). Interesting question @GolfSpy MPR - I honestly haven't even thought of trying to "maintain" the lie angle. I tend to overthink standing over a putt, so I've been consciously trying to "not think". Sam's explanation of "slicing cheese" totally makes sense - I'm going to try this method on my practice green this week. Thanks for sharing!!! Cfhandyman 1 Quote Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Haywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58) Putter: L.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie") Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Reviews: L.A.B. DF3 Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Do any pros use any LAB putters? I know many pros get paid big money to play the big brand. But wouldn't winning with LAB be better than the extra promo $ for playing a putter? Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 5 minutes ago, Donn lost in San Diego said: Do any pros use any LAB putters? I know many pros get paid big money to play the big brand. But wouldn't winning with LAB be better than the extra promo $ for playing a putter? Off the top of my head, a bunch: Will Zalatoris, Lucas Glover, Emiliano Grillo, Phil, Richard Bland, Adam Scott, Michael Kim, Byeoung Hun An, Camilla Villagas, Grayson Murray (rip). I’m sure I’m missing others… I believe LAB doesn’t have any equipment deals, so all Pros pay for their putters. I think that says a lot Cfhandyman and jbern 2 Quote Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Haywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58) Putter: L.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie") Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Reviews: L.A.B. DF3 Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 19 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Off the top of my head, a bunch: Will Zalatoris, Lucas Glover, Emiliano Grillo, Phil, Richard Bland, Adam Scott, Michael Kim, Byeoung Hun An, Camilla Villagas, Grayson Murray (rip). I’m sure I’m missing others… I believe LAB doesn’t have any equipment deals, so all Pros pay for their putters. I think that says a lot I would add Garrick Higgs, Charles Howell III and Phil Mickelson for DF3 although not sure if they are currently using. jbern 1 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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