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2023 Titleist ===TEST=== Golf Ball Review
INTRODUCTION: Peejer, 57 years old male, 8.4 handicap – been playing for 37 years. Strengths: Iron play Weakness: Driver distance off tee
Lives in Highlands Ranch, Colorado (suburb of Denver)
I took this ball to the course for real play and ran the numbers on my golf simulator. My testing methodology centered around comparisons to known balls. I compared this Test ball against the current Titleist ProV1 and the Titleist AVX. The numbers represented below are obviously MY swing. Speed, Approach, Clubface, etc. When hitting shots, I removed obviously bad strikes so it didn’t skew the data.
FIRST IMPRESSIONS: 4 out of 5
I was excited to try out the new ball, I wanted to see if I could figure out what kind of ball it was. In previous years, I tested various versions of the Titleist ProV1 and Velocity. I could tell it was a urethane cover ball from the feel, pressing a finger nail into the cover, it had a soft feel to it.
AESTHETICS: 4 out of 5
Not a fair judgement here, as the word TEST on the ball won’t be in the final product. What I did note was a ball that was free from defects, what I’ve come to expect from Titleist golf balls.
PERFORMANCE: 3 out of 5
Driver: The ball had the best ball speed off the driver, but that didn’t really translate to the simulator data. Another reviewer commented that the bll performed very well in wind, which isn’t a factor I could replicate on the simulator, nor was it windy the days I took the ball out. The Test ball launched a little bit lower than the ProV1 and AVS balls. Spin on the Test ball is slightly less than the ProV1, but more than the current AVX ball. I’m not a big hitter, but the ball feels a little too soft off the driver.
7-iron: The ball speed was again the best against the ProV1 and AVX balls. It had significantly less spin of the 7-iron than the others, which also explains why it had more roll. For me personally, I like iron shots that has minimal roll-out after hitting the green. The ball definitely had a soft feeling off the irons.
PW: Ball speed off the Test ball was 1 mph slower off the Pitching Wedge, a contrast to being the fastest with the Driver and 7-iron. Which also correlates to a little less distance, but it makes up for it with the roll-out being longer. That was surprising to me, as it launched higher, yet still had 1 yard/3 feet more roll than the ProV1/AVX balls. I prefer for my wedge shots to stop quickly. This ball didn’t do that for me. Here again, the ball felt softer than the ProV1 and almost indistinguishable against the AVX.
PLAY IT OR TRADE IT: 3 out of 5
I don’t think this is the ball for my game. Could I play it? Sure, but I don’t see paying a premium price for it. I also had some wear on the cover of the ball, not bad – but more than the ProV1 and AVX balls. It was pretty apparent that Titleist made some changes to this ball from the AVX, but to be fair, I wouldn’t play/pay the AVX prices for it. I don’t think this ball suits my style of play. As stated in the introduction, I like a ball that stops quickly and the Test ball just didn’t do that for MY swing. Trade It.
CONCLUSION
It’s not for me, I typically play a Srixon Q-Star Tour Divide, which is considered a low-spin ball. But I can stop it on a dime, and give you nine cents change! I wasn’t able to do that with the Titleist Test ball. For that reason, it’s a pass for me and my game.
Many thanks to Titleist and MyGolfSpy for this testing opportunity. I hope you gain some insight from my review and the data from the simulator.
FINAL SCORE 14 out of 20: 70% score
-- Peejer
- Preeway, HikingMike, Rob Person and 4 others
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59 minutes ago, Cfhandyman said:
Thank you for your kind words and yes on indoor testing the test ball was shorter, but on course it was longer. So what gives you ask. On course, it was a cool and windy day, (10-15 mph), with firm fairways, so I strongly suspect, the test ball with its lower flight and less spin, carried the same or slightly less, but had a longer roll out than the Srixon whose trajectory was higher with more spin. Very noticeable in shots into the wind. I played 2 balls that day and hit them side by side. The test ball performs very well in the wind. Indoors, you have a controlled atmosphere, no wind, etc. If you have a decent sample size, you get a much better picture of what’s happening
Good point on the wind. Dimples can make all the difference and with your on-course data, it definitely seems to be a bright spot for the Test ball.
Thanks for the reply!
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3 hours ago, Cfhandyman said:
The Titleist TEST ball review – The Good, the bad, there is no ugly
Overall: The Titleist TEST ball is a premium, high quality golf ball and performed relatively well against the competition. It has a soft feel and is low spin off the driver and irons but has sufficient spin around the greens. One concern/issue is durability. Two out of the three test balls had to be retired from testing after scuffing and wear. What is not known is the price. If this is an AVX prototype, then it is an improved version retaining soft feel, with lower compression, low launch, low spin capabilities but adding additional spin for improved greenside performance. Overall grade, 26/30
Goals of testing: How does it perform on course, with respect to feel, distance, spin, ability to hold the green and putt ability? Is it a long low spin, low trajectory ball that has good greenside spin and control? How does it measure against the competition? How durable is it? Is it for moderate swing speeds or players with excessive spin. If this is an AVX prototype how does it compare to the current version of AVX.
Tester: I’m a 65 year old male, and live in the greater Toronto area in Ontario, Canada. I am a 6.5 handicap playing an average of 100 rounds per year with 400 rounds on Arccos. I am driven by the need to learn and improve. I am data driven and analytical. I didn’t play for 10+ years and only got back into golf 5 years ago. I was inspired by a friend who once said, golf is the only game you can play for 30 years and never improve. When I thought about it, it is rather true, so I was determined to do it right the second time around. Hence lessons, fitted equipment and diligent practice. I was inspired again when I went to Tour Experience Golf (TXG) 5 years ago and came out not only with expertly fitted and built clubs, but many new friends. I now go on a yearly basis to tweak my setup. With respect to my game, I tend to be somewhat steep with a slight out to in swing with an average clubhead speed of 77-80 mph for 7 iron and 90-95 mph for driver. I tend to prefer medium to firm compression balls with a slightly softer feel on the putter face. I have been fitted for golf balls. The vast majority of my career has been in healthcare, starting with medical research, then organ donation and transplantation for many years before transitioning into Rare diseases (Transplant, Bleeding disorders and growth disorders) with Wyeth and then Pfizer. Now, my day job is golf, pickleball and my two huskies.
TPC Sawgrass, I’m the guy in the middle in the blue and black.
Initial Impressions: High quality, premium looking ball, very similar to the ProV1 line. Nicely packaged and I couldn’t wait to get it out on the golf course and indoor range. But wait, in all that excitement, how am I going to test it and evaluate it and what are the criteria for testing and evaluation, other than see ball, hit ball and try not to lose the ball.
Indoor testing protocol to be conducted like a golf ball fitting, in an indoor golf facility/academy with Trackman 4. I will hit 10 shots each 54* wedge, 7 iron and driver and take the average for each club and ball. Any outliers, if any (0 – 2) will be discarded to ensure a decent and representative sample size.
Test Parameters: I will be specifically looking at the following: clubhead speed, ball speed, smash factor, carry distance, total distance, spin, height, land angle, as well as club path, launch angle and dynamic loft. The reference ball will be the Titleist ProV1x and the comparator balls will be what I’ve been fitted for by the Ping Ballnamic tool (ballfitting.com) as well as by the Titleist selector tool (ProV1x). See table 1. The other comparator ball will be the Titleist AVX ball primarily because the shipping label sent by Titleist indicated it was a sleeve of AVX balls and it has the same number of dimples (348) and design pattern as an AVX.
Examining the inner core revealed a 3 piece ball with either purple power colour (AVX) or blueberry bomber colour (TEST). It also appeared that the cover of the test ball was slightly thicker than the AVX. If the cover of the test ball is thicker and softer, will this mean more spin?
2023 AVX ball “retired” TEST ball after 1 round AVX – 3 pc, interior TEST – 3 pc, interior
The Contestants
(References: MyGolfSpy Ball quality Comparison tool, titleist.com)
TESTING RESULTS THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS
My on course experience with the prototype TEST golf ball revealed a premium softer feeling ball with a lower compression than I normally play. It became immediately apparent that the test ball is very different from what I normally use and it took me a few holes to get used to it. Distance: For the most part and in my hands, I found the test ball to be longer (off the tee and in the fairway) an average of 1-10 yards longer. Flight and trajectory: Ball flight was lower or more penetrating than the comparator (Srixon Z star XV) with less apparent spin and especially side spin as this ball flies very straight. Basically, it goes exactly where you are aimed. Due to its less spin and more penetrating trajectory, it works very well in windy conditions and was usually longer than my comparator. Given that I was playing in windy conditions (10-15 mph), this also may explain why the test ball was longer than the higher trajectory, higher spinning Srixon Z star XV. When you hit it well, it seems to fly off the face of the club, almost like a rocket (hot). On a number of occasions, I hit a rocket only to see the ball fly the green or land and then roll to the back of the green or worse off the back. I.e it came in low and hot, most likely a function of decreased spin, lower height and land angle. This was more notable on the mid to long irons. Wedge shots on full and partial wedge shots provided you have enough height, the ball stopped relatively quickly but had a little more roll out than the higher spinning Srixon ball. However, on flighted wedges, the test ball had a tendency to come in low and hot and would often roll to the back of the green or off the green, catching me by surprise. Chipping around the green: With bump and runs and little chip shots, the test ball worked well. Quite often, it would bounce and then stop reasonably quickly, but with very little backspin. For putting, the test ball was relatively soft of the face of the putter and rolled straight and true with good distance control. Not that much different than the Srixon. Made birdies with both balls.
Indoor Testing: The on course results conflict with indoor testing which showed the test ball to be on average of 1-6 yards shorter than the comparator balls, yet on course it was 1 – 10 yards (estimation) longer. See Chart 1, 2 and 3.
CHART 1
CHART 2
CHART 3
Overall impressions based on, on course play and indoor testing: The test ball is a soft feeling, lower spinning and has a lower trajectory flight with good distance. In my hands, for an average swing speed player (7 iron clubhead speed, 77-80 mph, 90-95 mph with driver), it was slightly longer, on average of 1-10 yards on course. This ball is very different from what I am used to (ProV1x, Srixon, Bridgestone). I liked the length off the tee, as well as with irons. It became more problematic around the greens as I prefer more spin and control, so initially I’m not sure if I could game this ball on a regular basis. I would think for high swing speed players and a low compression ball would not be a good mix unless they had excessive spin. To determine if the test ball worked well for slower swing speed players, I recruited my wife.
For the slow swing speed player (driver club head speed of 62 - 70 mph), the comparator ball was her Srixon Z star divide. There was no difference with respect to clubhead speed or ball speed (all within 0.2-1 mph). Height and land angles were higher with the Srixon Z star ball. No difference in height for wedges, however, 7 iron and driver were on average 2' and 8' higher than the Test ball. Launch angle was the same for wedge, but 0.5 and 3 degrees higher for the 7 iron and driver with the Srixon Z star ball. (data not shown). Overall, for the slow swing speed player, the Titleist test ball performed well. It was slightly longer, with reduced spin, slightly lower height and lower launch angles, so it would be a candidate for the bag.
Quality and durability: The quality and construction of the test ball are excellent and looks similar to a ProV1 and is made in the same ball plant 3. In terms of quality assurance and control, Titleist is one of the best if not the best in the business as per MyGolfSpy ball tests. After 1 round the ball and cover held up reasonably well, except for 1 scuff mark a result for hitting the cart path. Unfortunately, upon further testing, two out of the three test balls had to be retired from testing after scuffing and wear. They were removed from testing as a scuffed ball would have negatively impacted the results. Is it possible they are using a softer or thicker cover which would result in more green side spin but are more susceptible to scuffing?
Who is this ball for based on testing: It appears Ideal for the player who is looking for distance and/or needs less spin. If you like to keep the ball straight, this is a ball for you. If you liked or play with the AVX ball, you will enjoy this new ball. Titleist have improved on the AVX ball, soft feel, just as long with a bit more spin added around the greens. Works very well in the wind with a more penetrating ball flight.
Would it go into my bag. No, primarily as the top 3 balls for me on testing were the Titleist ProV1x, Srixon Z star XV and Bridgestone tour B XS balls primarily due to a combination of distance, spin and feel. This also matches up nicely with my ball fitting recommendations as well as the MGS golf ball test recommendations. So, for now, the Titleist ProV1x stays in the bag.
Great review!!, but I have to admit I'm a little confused. In your write-up, you say the Proto ball is 1 to 10 yards longer on the course, but the data in your charts from indoor testing indicate it's shorter. Do you have an understanding of why that is? I would think it's because the data in the charts is a summation of all your shots, as opposed to a single strike?
Again, fantastic review - it's the most thorough one I've read in this forum!
-- Peejer
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9 minutes ago, HikingMike said:
Rough Summaries from Comments About Backspin
I tried gathering comments people have made about spin, particularly when they have a comparison to another ball or two. These are mostly rough paraphrases, with higher or lower, and the types of shot or club used, with a few quotes thrown in also. Apologies if I missed anyone. I was navigating the forum with the Ctrl-F find working rapidly and scanning quickly so this wouldn't take 5 hours.
It looks like it's all over the map. For reference, here is how many people said it was higher vs lower spin compared to something else. It is not counted in this number if a person said it was roughly the same.
Higher Spin
10 of 18Lower Spin
8 of 18Spin summaries:
@Parshooter36 - Higher spin than AVX and Chromesoft, less than Pro V1 with 3/4 wedge shots. Higher spin than AVX and Chromesoft, similar spin as Pro V1 with full 9i.
@Tom the Golf Nut - Higher spin compared to AVX with 9i.
@Javs - "Pitching and chipping: The White Box was very similar to a Titleist AVX. On pitch shots it was a one hop and stop. On chips the ball would grab, but did not spin excessively."
"While I notated the lower spin on this ball, I did not find that there was excessive run out on pitches or chips. My results were more of a one hop and stop."@Hook DeLoft - Lower spin than Bridgestone B XS around the green.
@MH15 - Higher spin than Bridgestone e6 with Driver and 7i, but same spin with PW.
@taylorjonasher - Higher spin than Pro V1 RCT with 4i. But "greenside spin on the test ball was noticeably less; I could not check it up like the ProV1."
@Ben Joest - "Spin around the greens wasn’t noticeably better or worse"
@Josh Parker - "Shots into the green did a one hop stop or very little backspin."
@funkyjudge - Lower spin than a Maxfli Tour X CG and Pro V1xLeftDash with wedges. Also lower spin (by an even wider gap) with irons and full PW.
@brogies - Higher spin than Pro V1 RCT on every club, especially wedges.
@GolfSpy_BNG - Higher spin than CSXLS with 46 degree wedge and 7i.
@DukeStKing - "Punch shots and knock downs stopped on a dime for me and I got plenty of backspin on approach shots."
@vandyland - Lower spin than both Pro V1 and Kirkland V3 with 7i. In a round, "ball seemed to roll out a little bit more on full shots and pitches but not dramatically so" compared to Pro V1.
@JohnH1 - Higher spin than Pro V1, less than Tour Response, with 7i.
@Randall Robbins - "shorter irons were stopping after a hop and slight roll." "Wedges: Nice stopping ability"
@Slater - Lower spin than Pro V1 and Pro V1x with 80 yard shots, 140 yard shots, 160 yard shots, 200 yard shots, and driver. "This has more approach and short game spin than previous AVX models, as well as 100-200 more rpm off the driver." "Unfortunately, it has very little green side stopping power."
@Cfhandyman - "Spin is definitely less" for long shots such as tee and fairway compared to Srixon Z-Star XV. For wedges, "the ball stopped relatively quickly but had a little more roll out than the higher spinning Srixon ball".
@Prodigal Duffer - "On longer wedge shots, the ball more or less stopped on one hop. On shorter pitches, the ball rolled more than I would expect." (normal gamer ball is Vice Pro)
@buckpillar - "from 100yds in, I was able to control the spin, hit the one hop and stop shot with excellent success"
@d0m41n - Higher spin than OnCore Vero X1 and Maxfli Tour S with driver. Also higher spin with irons and wedges for better stopping.
@ctg44 - "I definitely had a ton more launch height and spin with these than I did with any other ball, including ProV1 and ProV1X, Maxfli Tour (2023 yellow), OnCore Vero X1, and Bridgestone e12 Contact (2023)."
@Peejer - Lower spin with 7i.
@J7Hawkins - Higher spin than Mizuno RB Tour X.
@JackBurtonsPorkchopExpress - Less hold around the greens than Srixon Z-Star XV.
@golfinnut - Lower spin off tee, lower spin on approach compared to Pro V1.
Great job consolidating all the reviews. I’m not surprised it’s all over the place with assessments. Many of the reviewers offered opinions based upon their play. Personally, unless it’s on a simulator or launch monitor, it’s all conjecture. MGS made its reputation on real data.
I also think there are too many reviewers, this thread is almost impossible to follow due to the larger numbers of reviewers.
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9 hours ago, Cfhandyman said:
Ver nice test and review. Interesting that the AVX ball spun the most and the test ball had the least spin, best carry and height.
I'm sure there are some on here who can explain it, but what I see is it launched 1 degree higher, which sent it 1 yard (3') higher and with the lower spin and it rolled further.
I summarized the top 6 swings for each ball and magically all the going in data (clubhead speed, ball speed and smash factor) were almost identical. It was dumb luck (or consistency) they all came out that close. But I think that lends itself to some data backed analysis.
-- Peejer
- Josh Parker, Rob Person, Cfhandyman and 2 others
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16 hours ago, taylorjonasher said:
Well, my round this weekend was cut very short by a change in plans and the weather. My 9:45 tee time was pushed back to 10:30 due to a frost delay, forcing me to only play my main ball (ProV1) after three holes due to time constraints. In three holes though, I found out the following:
- I can blade the test ball with my 54 just as well as any other ball, if not better. The distance when hitting the equator on the nuts was unbelievable - 2 miles, minimum.
- Greenside spin on the test ball was noticeably less; I could not check it up like the ProV1.
- Through 3 drives, the test ball was unbelievably straight off the driver, although 5 - 10 yards shorter. Drives were higher with the test ball.
- Approach shots were also very straight, and slightly longer than the ProV1. There was very little movement left or right with the test ball. This ball carried further on all shots with the irons by a few yards.
- Putting was soft off the face, but nothing that was a major turn off. I prefer a slightly firmer feel.
- I only put one ball in play out of the sleeve for the day, and did not have any cover durability issues that others have had. If it's worth anything, the last box of ProV1's that I bought have had durability issues on the cover - scuffing very easily.
We are supposed to have great weather this week, so I am going to try to get out again and play at least 9 with just the test ball.
I ran the test ball against the current ProV1 and AVX on my simulator tonight (posted above). My stats reflect what you wrote about. Lower spin (hence straighter shots and not as much greenside check) and it was a longer ball. Thanks for the write-up, good stuff!
-- Peejer
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Ran the new Titleist Test Ball against the current ProV1 and AVX. The shots with this test was only with my 7-iron, P790 (2021) in Stiff shaft. My simulator is the SkyTrak+.
A little about me, 57 year old male in pretty good shape, driver swing speed mid-90's. My handicap flexes between 6 and 9, currently sitting at 8.4. The best part of my game is typically my iron play.
Of note, I removed any bad swings so I didn't skew the data. It seems to have normalized pretty well, overall.
Stats are below, some interesting observations from my swing.
For the new Titleist golf ball, the ball speed is +1 mph faster than ProV1/AVX, it launches slightly higher and spins less. End result here was its a longer ball with carry and roll.
This could be a ball I would use - I like lower spin. In my next test, I'll bring in the driver. If it's also lower spin off the tee, it's definitely something I'd play.
More to come...
-- Peejer
- Rob Person, Cfhandyman, brogies and 3 others
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My Titleist “TEST”. Balls showed up yesterday! Taking them out for a spin on Friday and running the numbers on the simulator or Saturday. I decided to wait on the sim stats so I don’t have any preconceived ideas about what to expect.
I’m reallylooking forward to the results!!
— Peejer
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Look what showed up in the mail today!!
— Peejer
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Yellow Kirkland V3's are now available on Costco.com
https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-golf-balls%2c-2-dozen-neon-yellow.product.4000201209.html
- Josh Parker and ZJeb67
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17 hours ago, Paul Hedrick said:
During a lesson one time, the pro suggested I stand closer to the ball then I feel comfortable doing. When I remember to do this, my shots are better.
Same for me, it feels uncomfortable to get close, but I definitely hit the ball better.
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2 hours ago, John Marchetto said:
Get it on the green. When you miss the green and have a difficult chip don't try to make the hero shot just get it on the green.
Totally agree, often tell myself - no matter what, give yourself a putt. The hero shot, for most, rarely works and chunking and leaving it in the rough or bunker leads to doubles or worse.
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For me - my miss is usually a pull shot left of target. Drives me crazy some days...
A very good golfer and friend told me to think of my right shoulder, feel like its going UNDER your chin on your downswing and NOT AROUND your chin.
Obviously, it can't physically go under my chin, but that's the feeling I think of.
He told me this over a decade ago and to this day, I still use it when a case of the 'pulls' happen.
- DymnDog, Gusset and DannyDarts
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I signed up for mine later today. The 30 minute session is in fact, free. I'm fortunate to have a PXG store within a few miles of the house, so figured I've really got nothing to lose.
I'm speculating that this driver may be tighter dispersion or longer, but for me to swap out my Taylormade Stealth - it'll have to be both longer and straighter.
I'm not willing to give up 10+ yards to have moderately tighter dispersion. We shall see what the numbers say.
-- Peejer
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Always enjoy these contests - even though I'm never close to right! lol
What the Cut Number Will Be: +4
What the Highest Round of the Week Will Be: 84
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Let me start by saying I love the comfort and feel of the Skechers Go Golf / Torque Twist (BOA) golf shoes. But I just can't seem to get a pair to last more than 15-18 months!!!
The BOA wires cut into the eyelets. Which, why they make them out of cloth (no reinforcement) is beyond me! Anyone else having issues with BOA shoes and cloth eyelets and/or Skechers BOA shoes?
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On 5/23/2023 at 8:38 AM, CB Lobo 4 Life said:
Hello my fellow Taylormade fan! I am a Taylormade guy and have always been pretty much since I started. When I first really started play competitively my bag was stacked with TM. I first started with the Rac CB irons and the R7 driver. My current bag except for the Fairway (Ping is my go-to for the Fairway wood), and Hybrid (got a good deal on an exotics brand club and I love it) are all TM and I play great with them!
@CB Lobo 4 Life - I was just checking out your signature line. What are Taylormade 670's?!?
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On 10/11/2022 at 10:53 AM, cnosil said:
I do fairly well with the Kirkland. My main problem with driver is too little spin so balls that are a little more spinny off the tee are beneficial to my game. We joke about it at HQ but a few years ago I was kicked out of the driver test because there were drivers I just couldn’t spin enough to get reasonable results.
The spinny Kirkland's are the V2 model (came in a silver box). The launch monitor numbers for the V3 version (in black box) show the spin is down significantly and it's a longer ball than it's predecessor. Can't wait to see the official MyGolfSpy numbers on it!!
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Would like to see how the SaintNine U-Pro balls stack up. They are 2-piece urethane balls. I play the pink or yellow versions in the Colorado winter when the grass goes dormant and the ground is rock hard. Always wanted to see how they compare to other balls. And they are constantly on sale - so let's see the numbers!!
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On 10/29/2016 at 3:56 PM, GolfSpy Barbajo said:
>>>>>
This is kind of important, so give this some thought and let us know what you think.
Here we go:
Questions:
1. Have you purchased any golf products based on MyGolfSpy reviews? (Please list which ones.)2. How has MyGolfSpy changed the way you think about golf equipment?3. Have these purchases lowered your scores? (List which products and how much they have lowered your scores.)4. How have these purchases helped you enjoy the game more? How?Thanks guys - looking forward to your input!Answers to the above:
1. Yes, very frequently. Have the Stealth driver, Srixon ZX 3W, Cobra RadSpeed hybrid, EVNROLL ER7, Snell, OnCore, Maxfli Tour golf balls. Oh yeah, used to have the Ping Pioneer golf bag too. Come to think of it, SkyTrak and PrecisionPro rangefinder also.
2. Yes, absolutely. Before I even consider a new piece of equipment, I check MyGolfSpy first.
3. My scores have gone down over the past 5 years, and I think it's due to making better swings with better equipment.
4. I enjoy the game more than ever and MyGolfSpy is a huge part of that enjoyment. I'm on the website almost daily!
-- Peejer
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When MyGolfSpy does their lab tests on the Kirkland V3's, I hope they post results from both the manufacturing countries.
I'm very interested in seeing both balls cut open and see if they're the same. Are other companies doing the same? Meaning manufacturing from different countries???
Seems like an odd way to do business....hoping there's some consistency between the two.
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1st Tie Breaker What is the Cut Number: +2 and better makes the cut
2nd Tie Breaker What will Jordan Spieth's score be after the 2nd round: -4
Thanks, -- Peejer
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I did a fitting over the winter for Taylormade P790's. I went to a local, trusted fitter (Gottgolf.com) that's associated with Green Valley Ranch in the Denver area. The cool thing about this place was they have you hit from indoors with a Trackman, but they have roll-up garage-type doors, so the ball flies out onto a range. I really liked seeing the true flight, plus getting the numbers. All my previous fittings were 100% indoors.
But, back to the clubs - I had already made up my mind on shaft/head - I've been a Taylormade iron player for several decades. I had tried to switch to Mizuno JPX-900 irons, because they had great reviews and I liked the feel - but for me, the on-course performance just wasn't there. So I dumped them after a little over a year and got the Taylormade M6 irons - which I loved. A few years later, I am ready for more Player Distance irons. I went to Golf Galaxy and PGA Tour Superstore, hit several different irons on my own and ultimately settled on the Taylormade P790's. I really was only concerned about loft/lie. Something the fitter told me made 100% sense. He fits every single iron, one by one, based upon my swing. That made me go back to my fitting I did at Edwin Watts when I got the Mizuno's. They only had me hit the 7-iron, then adjusted all the lofts on the irons to 2* upright. When I got fit for the P790's, my set from 4-PW & GW all had slight variances in lie. Some were only adjusted to .5 degrees, other clubs went as high as 2* upright.
I'd be interested in hearing how other fittings have gone - once you settled in on the shaft/head, did they walk you through each club for loft/lie adjustments?
Thanks, -- Peejer
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If this thread's any indication, there are lot's of folks using iron covers. Now, on to the follow-up question - what type of iron covers?
I am not a fan of neoprene, they wear way too fast.
I definitely prefer leather/pleather, personally I like a zipper on mine, but they're really hard to find in 4-PW+GW+SW+LW.
I like all mine to match! Craftsman have been on my irons for the past 5+ years
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2023 Titleist White Box Testing Thread
in Forum Testing Reviews
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Weird, I didn't see that when I posted it - or when I look at it now. Must've been a cut/paste error. I had some issues trying to do a straight paste from Excel. Ultimately put it into a JPG format to get it to show up correctly.