alfriday101 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I received the following e-mail from MGS this morning: “MyGolfSpy wants to hear from you. We're looking for some awesome testing ideas for this offseason. Got a product, theory or just about anything golf related you want to see tested in our Lab X test facility? Drop us an email at [email protected], subject "Lab X Offseason Ideas" and we'll run em by the team.†What would you like to see tested? I figure that we could flush out or refine some ideas as a group. Here is my first idea. There have been multiple threads on golf forums about putter technology. The threads start with statements to the effect that of all the clubs, putter technology hasn't changed much over the years and what changes have occurred really don't help lower the scores of average golfers. The test I would like to see is to test the current leading putters from the most wanted putter test against the best, or best selling putters, from the past. Test the Evnroll putters against putters like the twoball putter, the bullseye, a Ping putter from the 70s, etc. Just how much has putter tech improved? Does it lower scores, or should we just give up on tech and go back to the Bullseye? How many strokes do we gain with newer tech putters verses the older tech? I assume the equipment for the test shouldn't be too expensive. MGS hopefully still has the putters from the most wanted tests and the others should be available for not much money on the used market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I would like to see the leading putters go against the old bullseye putter or a mini golf putter. Let's see the "best" vs the "worst" to really prove the concept. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I would like to see the leading putters go against the old bullseye putter or a mini golf putter. Let's see the "best" vs the "worst" to really prove the concept. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Heck yeah! I've drained some pretty crazy mini golf hole-in-ones, let's put one in the bag and see how it performs. Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcmart Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Heck yeah! I've drained some pretty crazy mini golf hole-in-ones, let's put one in the bag and see how it performs.I actually have a buddy that carries two putters with him; one of which is a mini golf putter Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: 10.5* XR16 R Flex Woods: Big Bertha V-Series 3 Wood R Flex Hybrid: 913H 21* R flex Irons: C300 4-PW R Flex Wedges: SM5 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: 2135 Cero 33" / EXO Seven S 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Agree, Putter test would be interesting, I have an old TP Mills or Anser2 vs my recent purchase Odyssey OWorks. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I think people on here get caught up in testing individual clubs (particularly their own) when I think there should be focus on larger theories. Stuff like iron spin off fairways vs off rough with Muscle cavity irons vs irons with larger cavities and stronger lofts. Hybrid vs fairway wood tests Utility irons vs hybrids tests Etc. Those types of tests could really change how people look to configure their bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I think people on here get caught up in testing individual clubs (particularly their own) when I think there should be focus on larger theories. Stuff like iron spin off fairways vs off rough with Muscle cavity irons vs irons with larger cavities and stronger lofts. Hybrid vs fairway wood tests Utility irons vs hybrids tests Etc. Those types of tests could really change how people look to configure their bags Good idea. I remember reading an article where Miura said high handicappers can play blades just the same as low because the blades cut through the rough better than any GI club. That would be a fun "Mythbusters" test. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcscott Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Golf apps - all different kinds Golf dots and ball marking junk ( I really want a MGS golfdot) Hybrids vs long irons Driver vs 3 wood accuracy test Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'd like to see the hybrids vs fairway wood test. 16 degree hybrid vs the 3 or 4 wood. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGolfore Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I want to see some good data regarding driver length and height. I play +1/2†irons. So why not in the driver? It's almost impossible to find driver shafts on the plus side at fittings. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callaway Rogue 9* FW: Sub 70 Pro 4 wood Hybrid: Sub 70 949 Hybrid 19* Irons: Sub 70 659 CB 4 - 6 Black 639 MB 7 - PW Wedges: Sub 70 JB - 50* 54* & 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot #2 Ball: Titleist Pro-V1x Handicap index: +3.9 Instagram: joshandersongolf Twitter: @jacustomgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'd like to see data on spine alignment and frequency matching. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 How about a testing of steel vs graphite shafts in irons. See what the results of a stiff graphite vs a stiff regular would be. OR, make it a blind test. Cover the shaft so the tester doesn't know what they're hitting(steel or graphite), but they can still see the results of the shot. Then have them pick what seemed to be the best. Kinda like the old Coke vs Pepsi blind taste test. Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 How about a testing of steel vs graphite shafts in irons. See what the results of a stiff graphite vs a stiff regular would be. OR, make it a blind test. Cover the shaft so the tester doesn't know what they're hitting(steel or graphite), but they can still see the results of the shot. Then have them pick what seemed to be the best. Kinda like the old Coke vs Pepsi blind taste test. I like it! I have graphite shafted irons on my radar. At my age and swing speed it's a done deal however it would be an interesting review. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I like it! I have graphite shafted irons on my radar. At my age and swing speed it's a done deal however it would be an interesting review. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'm sure you could surprise some younger golfers that think they should be in steel. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I think people on here get caught up in testing individual clubs (particularly their own) when I think there should be focus on larger theories. Stuff like iron spin off fairways vs off rough with Muscle cavity irons vs irons with larger cavities and stronger lofts. Hybrid vs fairway wood tests Utility irons vs hybrids tests Etc. Those types of tests could really change how people look to configure their bags Interesting idea, I like it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'm sure you could surprise some younger golfers that think they should be in steel. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy That was my thought. Everyone goes with steel because that's the standard. Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcscott Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 How about a Rules test? Can MGS clean up the rule book? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think people on here get caught up in testing individual clubs (particularly their own) when I think there should be focus on larger theories. Stuff like iron spin off fairways vs off rough with Muscle cavity irons vs irons with larger cavities and stronger lofts. Hybrid vs fairway wood tests Utility irons vs hybrids tests Etc. Those types of tests could really change how people look to configure their bags I like this idea although I suspect it wouldn't be a cut and dried one size fits all solution. I still would love to see the last five most wanted drivers head to head or one OEMs driver line for the past three release cycles head to head to head. To me that would be interested my. Certainly there's a big gain over 20 years but what about over the last five or six? Does a release ever take a step back? It would be fun to know Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I like this idea although I suspect it wouldn't be a cut and dried one size fits all solution. I still would love to see the last five most wanted drivers head to head or one OEMs driver line for the past three release cycles head to head to head. To me that would be interested my. Certainly there's a big gain over 20 years but what about over the last five or six? Does a release ever take a step back? It would be fun to know Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Some interesting thoughts in there. I like the driver test head to head last 3-5 years. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I thought long and hard and I think I've got a good one: Test whether players play better using a Rangefinder, GPS, or Morse Code (stepping off yardages from markers and sprinklers). I'd be willing to bet Morse code wins or comes close to winning. Controlling the variables would be difficult but it's nothing some board room meetings couldn't iron out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'd like to see standard off the rack drivers up against the same driver (exact specs) from a demo cart. I've heard a lot of people say they killed it with a club on a demo day, then struggle with the one they buy Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddryan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I now use my GPS watch, and am anticipating my Shot Scope 2.0, which will do GPS as well as track my shotmaking and identify areas where I should focus my practice. But, I still do pace-count (or Morse Code, as STUDque calls it) out of habit - 30 years of pacecount in the military, and 20 playing golf without the technology has made it as much of my game as my grip or swing groove... What's in the bag? Driver Callaway Mavrik 105 set to 9.5, square, Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60G Stiff shaft #3 Wood Callaway FT Tour 13 degree neutral setup, Fuijkara 370 Stiff Shaft Hybrid 18 Degree King Cobra Baffler pro, Baffler Stiff shaft 4-PW Titlest 714 AP2, Standard loft and lie, MGS S Shafts 53, 57 degree loft Hogan Equalizer wedges 1962 Wilson "Sandy Andy" sand wedge with HUGE bounce! Putter MLA Pro Classic Titlist ProV 1, ProV 1x Currently Gaming "Costco Kirkland Signature Tour Performance" balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'd like to see a putting test using balls of various hardness to test distance variances. Does a Supersoft ball roll as far as a TP5X? Curious as to how balls with varied numbers of layers react. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Good idea. I remember reading an article where Miura said high handicappers can play blades just the same as low because the blades cut through the rough better than any GI club. That would be a fun "Mythbusters" test. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy Oh oh oh, pick me! Pick me!!!! Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think people on here get caught up in testing individual clubs (particularly their own) when I think there should be focus on larger theories. Stuff like iron spin off fairways vs off rough with Muscle cavity irons vs irons with larger cavities and stronger lofts. Hybrid vs fairway wood tests Utility irons vs hybrids tests Etc. Those types of tests could really change how people look to configure their bags Bought a used utility iron to put in my bag to replace the hybrid. Hybrid went up for sale when I got home from the first round with the UI Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poprocksncoke Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Good idea. I remember reading an article where Miura said high handicappers can play blades just the same as low because the blades cut through the rough better than any GI club. That would be a fun "Mythbusters" test. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy I believe this to be 100% true. SLDR 10.5 Oban HB R11s Rip Phenom Ft. Worth Black Irons 588 RTX Rotex 2.0 54 CG10 58 EV 5.3 Duo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgolfjunkie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 My vote: Iron Shaft test (I know they did this a few years ago but would be curious to see a more in-depth test with a standard iron head and 6-8 of the most popular iron shafts in R, S and X flex). Indoor Putting Green Surfaces (So many to choose from but which is the most realistic?) Putter Loft test (which is the best based on stroke and speed of greens) Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'm going to steal this one from Rick Shiels but I think it would be cool if MGS did it... - test a series of drivers from one manufacturer to see if there really is that much of a difference from driver 6 or 7 years ago to one today. so, test every head that they have sold in the last 7 years and compare the results between all of them. In some cases the answer is emphatically yes but in other cases not so much.... Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I thought long and hard and I think I've got a good one: Test whether players play better using a Rangefinder, GPS, or Morse Code (stepping off yardages from markers and sprinklers). I'd be willing to bet Morse code wins or comes close to winning. Controlling the variables would be difficult but it's nothing some board room meetings couldn't iron out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I now use my GPS watch, and am anticipating my Shot Scope 2.0, which will do GPS as well as track my shotmaking and identify areas where I should focus my practice. But, I still do pace-count (or Morse Code, as STUDque calls it) out of habit - 30 years of pacecount in the military, and 20 playing golf without the technology has made it as much of my game as my grip or swing groove...But do you actually play better with the GPS added? Does it make that much of a difference if you know the exact distance as opposed to an approximation? If so, how many shots per round does it equate to? These are the results I'd like to see from a data centric test. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfriday101 Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 But do you feel like you actually play better with the GPS added? Does it make that much of a difference if you know the exact distance as opposed to an approximation? If so, how many shots per round does it equate to? Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy GPS, laser, or stepping off distance? I imagine I'd come pretty close to the same yardage regardless of method used to determine distance. Any variation probably wouldn't impact my score. To me, however, the big difference is how long it takes. It takes a few seconds to laser a flag. It takes much longer to find a sprinkler head, step off the distance, check the pin sheet to see how far the pin is on the green, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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