perseveringgolfer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I cant chip for love nor money! there, I've said it. I used to get beside a green and felt confident to hole it or scare the flag. Now I tremble with fear (not literally) and if its not a thin or fat it feels like a good shot even though its probably nowhere near the pin. I have grown up with open stance, ball at back foot or near middle to use the bounce (all have same thins or fats). Tried no wrist break, lots of wrist break, toe in the air, hands low etc etc but it's now ruining my games. From a player who could do a flop shot to one where fellow players keep out my line of fire in case of a 100mph thinned bullet lol anyone in the same boat and has a solution to get back to being a confident chipper? Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Maybe a video of you doing a few chips might help us determine what's going on in on with your chips. I'm in the same boat. I'm an ok chipper but went through a spell where I shanked it all. Ball placement was part of the problem as I was standing too close to the ball. MDGolfHacker What's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zylem Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Like MD said ball placement could be a problem. Try moving it closer to the middle of your stance to start with. It may of snuck further back in your stance than you think. (This is just a guess based on what I've seen others do and what you said you are experiencing) Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I have been struggling with my chipping. What club are you using? I am getting better but still struggle. I use different clubs depending on desired rollout, ball middle of stance, don't let left wrist breakdown, and focus on tempo. I think the tempo aspect is most important Good luck! Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Read Dave Stockton's Unconscious Scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 And don't look up before completing your chip! I found that caused a lot of fat and skulled shotsâ˜¹ï¸ MDGolfHacker What's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Check this out. https://youtu.be/JZOb3QzjP1U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I cant chip for love nor money! there, I've said it. I used to get beside a green and felt confident to hole it or scare the flag. Now I tremble with fear (not literally) and if its not a thin or fat it feels like a good shot even though its probably nowhere near the pin. I used to be a good chipper even from sand but something happened when i came back after a 7 year break. Now I suffer chip yips bad.. And its all mental. Also I haven't found a cure yet. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I practice chips only for about 7 months out of the year in my house. So it is probably the best part of my game. I practice several different types of chips, open stance, closed stance, high, low... different clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Check this out. that was useful thanks, just the opposite of what I've been doing, seve was great at keeping it simple. I get flippy with the hands but maybe thats subconsciously done with the ball too far back Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 I have been struggling with my chipping. What club are you using? I am getting better but still struggle. I use different clubs depending on desired rollout, ball middle of stance, don't let left wrist breakdown, and focus on tempo. I think the tempo aspect is most important Good luck! 50* 54* PW and 9 iron- I can fat and thin any of 'em Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Maybe a video of you doing a few chips might help us determine what's going on in on with your chips. I'm in the same boat. I'm an ok chipper but went through a spell where I shanked it all. Ball placement was part of the problem as I was standing too close to the ball. MDGolfHacker I am also standing too close to the ball, after I hit it...da boom boom tish! Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 50* 54* PW and 9 iron- I can fat and thin any of 'em My problem is with the wedges. I tend to get less putting stoke with them. I also have a tendency to grab them first. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 My problem is with the wedges. I tend to get less putting stoke with them. I also have a tendency to grab them first. I try and stick with 2, maybe 3 clubs at most to chip with. I usually go with my 54* and my 8i. I'll practice all sorts of different chips with them so I have a fairly good idea which club to grab on the course and I'm relatively confident with the outcome. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I have been struggling with my chipping. What club are you using? I am getting better but still struggle. I use different clubs depending on desired rollout, ball middle of stance, don't let left wrist breakdown, and focus on tempo. I think the tempo aspect is most important Good luck! I like this. (Not the fact that you are struggling btw!). I spent the last several years with my short game practice because without prodigious length on full swings, I have to rely on chipping and putting to score. I would say that from personal experience poor chipping is likely due to lead wrist breakdown and tempo. Part of my problem was taking the club back too far to the inside which created a really flat approach to the ball; blade.chunk. Now I focus on a more SBST swing with a steeper angle of attack which makes it easier to to keep the lead wrist from breaking down. I have also found that the type of grass and the lie has an impact on chipping results. I have always had trouble on Bermuda grass into the grain, but sparse clumps of any grass are also tricky. I usually chip with the ball in the middle of my stance, head behind the ball; I feel like I can see the back of the ball better than having the ball back where I tend to chunk it. If I exaggerate the followthrough down the line keeping the lead wrist flat, I don't blade it. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I would say that from personal experience poor chipping is likely due to lead wrist breakdown and tempo. Part of my problem was taking the club back too far to the inside which created a really flat approach to the ball; blade.chunk. Now I focus on a more SBST swing with a steeper angle of attack which makes it easier to to keep the lead wrist from breaking down. This. I have the same problem. My teacher has me take it back straight down the target line, which feels like I'm taking it waaaaay outside. Like we tell the kids, when you're making a change, what feels right is wrong and what is right feels wrong. He has me take an alignment rod and drive it into the ground at about a 45* angle. Take my stance with the rod pointing down my target line and the shaft touching the rod. Then take practice swings to ingrain that feeling with the shaft riding up and down the rod. What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 When I practice chipping, I really exaggerate having light grip pressure, to the extent I'm barely holding the club. The old chipping thought of throwing the ball underarm can be helpful in relaxing grip pressure. How tight do you grip the ball if you're going to toss it gently? Try to have fun with chipping practice, do a few stupid things to break it up. Upside down left handed, one handed, or totally unrealistic club choice can help engage the creative side of your brain. I haven't read the book Jlukes suggested, but the title makes sense, in particular around the greens. 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Start with a 7 iron and make a putting stroke. Develop that feel to the point where you gain some confidence. Then it's the 8 iron, the 9 and so on... There are a bounty of drills and tips to take, play around and find what works. You can do this, half the battle is between your ears. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Check this out. this is the one I'm going to work on.....makes simple sense. Thanks for all the input people its been very helpful. Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 this is the one I'm going to work on.....makes simple sense. Thanks for all the input people its been very helpful. Here is the link to the entire video. It's a hour well spent. He goes over a lot of the short game stuff we run into out there. Plus he was a genius. Have fun! https://youtu.be/Om5uhnjksVI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Honestly, if was a struggling golfer like described above I'd get a Square Strike club or something similar. I have a friend that recently bought one and he's seeing improvement and showing more confidence. I tried it myself and liked it quite frankly. Ok sure... I chip and pitch decently with my regular wedges, etc. But some people don't. Give a club like that a try. And besides... who gives a flip? This game is about getting the ball in the hole in as few of strokes as possible. Let guys laugh if that want to while you're game improves. I'm a 5 hcp and wouldn't hesitate for a minute to try something that actually might help my scoring. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 When I practice chipping, I really exaggerate having light grip pressure, to the extent I'm barely holding the club. The old chipping thought of throwing the ball underarm can be helpful in relaxing grip pressure. How tight do you grip the ball if you're going to toss it gently? Try to have fun with chipping practice, do a few stupid things to break it up. Upside down left handed, one handed, or totally unrealistic club choice can help engage the creative side of your brain. I haven't read the book Jlukes suggested, but the title makes sense, in particular around the greens. +1 soft hands... all great chippers of the ball have soft hands. Tension is a killer. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 +1 soft hands... all great chippers of the ball have soft hands. Tension is a killer. good point, when you have water or a bunker between you and the green, or water behind the green I can bend metal with the tension in my hands lol Combined with the Seve video above I'll concentrate on grip pressure like I'm holding a small bird Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Another thing to consider when practising is not being target focused. Work on feel and getting used to how the ball reacts to the club face and how the club interacts with the ground. Build up to your target after you rebuild your feel. Less pressure on yourself (and your grip) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 *update* Had my 3rd TPI coach lesson today - totally changed my chipping and dispelled many 'myths' about 'slowly', 'soft hands' 'grip lightly' etc etc all things I was doing with terrible results. lets see how it fairs on the course Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 well chipping was awesome yesterday, it was the only part that was, lol (see hip turn update thread) For the first time I could think about where to land the ball as opposed to my usual thoughts which were "dont chunk or thin it" which I inevitably did The coaches advice about back in the stance (comfortable to me), grip it as hard or soft as YOU feel you need (comfortable to me), weight 60/40 on lead foot and keeping the blade at impact and beyond never ahead of the hands- think Zach Johnston finish works very well indeed. Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanMachine22 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Talk to me. That's one part of my game that has never failed me. I had a scratch frat brother teach me a few things when I first started playing, and have stuck with it for 30 years. Ball back, slightly open stance and clubface, hit down on ball, and hit down until club hits turf. I make slight mods for various scenarios, but those fundamentals keep me centered. Use multiple clubs and practice “string walking†(archery term). The gist is have one swing for chips but use different clubs for different distance. With the chipping motion, here are my numbers...10-15 yards LW, 15-20, SW, 20-25 PW, 25-30 9. This all depends on how much rough you have between you and the green, but these numbers assume about 5 yards. I try to keep it systematic and consistency follows. The key is to keep the same stroke and change the club for distance. Driver: Ping G25 10.5 degrees, Tour S-flex 5 Wood - Ping G25 18 degrees, 3 wood shaft, Tour S-flex 7 Wood- Ping G25 21 degrees, Tour S-flex Hybrid - Ping G25 23 degrees, Tour S-flex 4 iron - Ping G2, Z-Z65 shaft, white dot PW - 5 iron- Ping I3, Z-Z65 shaft, white dot 56/60 degree - Ping M/B wedge, Z-Z65 shaft, white dot All with I3 gold gripsPutter - Nike Core Method Drone 44†(aka “The Assassin). Golf Ball - Pro VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Butch Harmon's technique for chipping is the easiest, and reduces chances for blades, heavy chips, etc. His method was in one of the last two months edition of Golf Mag/Golf Digest. Dustin Johnson also uses this method, as he's Butch's student. For right hander, ball is in front of right foot. Shaft is pretty vertical, hands high, left wrist cocked/firm. Stance slightly open. Toe is pointing down, only the lower to edge is on the ground. Now it's just a matter of rocking the shoulders and, bingo! Soooo easy. Changing to this method has helped me a ton. I'm more consistent, my touch is better, and I'm now more confident. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808nation Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Same boat here, I've been very inconsistent on my chip shot. Some great advises here Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Butch Harmon's technique for. Hopping is the easiest, and reduces chances for blades, heavy chips, etc. His method was in on of the last two months edition of Golf Mag/Golf Digest. Dustin Johnson also uses this method, as he's Butch's student. For right hander, ball is in front of right toe. Shaft is pretty vertical, hands high, left wrist cocked/firm. Stance slightly open. Toe is pointing down, only the lower to edge is on the ground. Now it's just a matter of rocking the shoulders and, bingo! Soooo easy. Changing to this method has helped me a ton. I'm more consistent, my touch is better, and I'm now more confident. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro this is basically what I do as well. I do find that some clubs work better that others. I do this with lob to 5 iron depending on carry and roll needs, but struggle a lot with the sand wedge. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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