Quigleyd Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, sixcat said: I think Seminole is probably one of those places that can only be truly appreciated in person. We can see the defining characteristics of whispy brownish grass and large sand dunes at places like St. Andrews, Whistling Straits and Pinehurst on TV. Seminole appears to be much more subtle in its defining characteristics. I also feel like the time of year in south Florida aided in the browned out look. If this were played in the winter, it would likely "popped" more on TV because the fairways and greens would have been much more green. Sure, that makes sense. I am simply talking layout. Not necessarily conditions. tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808nation Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Wasn't able to catch it live, but watched some highlights and looked like fun. Didn't realize how long of a hitter Wolff was.Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app tony@CIC 1 Quote WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, Quigleyd said: Sure, that makes sense. I am simply talking layout. Not necessarily conditions. I completely understand your point of view. I feel that layout and conditions aren't mutually exclusive. I was directing my comment mainly toward the Twitter backlash yesterday afternoon. I think "layout" is subjective like feel when hitting a golf ball. What we interpret as feel is much more a product of sound. Likewise, what we see in terms of layout is based on the majority of our experiences i.e. wall to wall green. I suspect we are conditioned to think the "browned-out" look is somehow inferior. I believe that's largely why Erin Hills, Chambers Bay and Trinity Forest weren't as well received as other venues. I grew up playing in and around the Pinehurst area. Brown is what golf looks like to me. But I feel like that puts me in the minority. Any way you slice it, I would love to play Seminole sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, sixcat said: I completely understand your point of view. I feel that layout and conditions aren't mutually exclusive. I was directing my comment mainly toward the Twitter backlash yesterday afternoon. I think "layout" is subjective like feel when hitting a golf ball. What we interpret as feel is much more a product of sound. Likewise, what we see in terms of layout is based on the majority of our experiences i.e. wall to wall green. I suspect we are conditioned to think the "browned-out" look is somehow inferior. I believe that's largely why Erin Hills, Chambers Bay and Trinity Forest weren't as well received as other venues. I grew up playing in and around the Pinehurst area. Brown is what golf looks like to me. But I feel like that puts me in the minority. Any way you slice it, I would love to play Seminole sometime. I didnt mind the brown. I play 95% of my golf in the high desert. Brown is my life. I get somewhat tired of seeing the over manicured, contrived and fake optics of the pga venues at time. The masters being the biggest culprit. With dyed grass, fake, bird sounds, trucked in load after load of pine straw etc. It simply cannot be seen by the world as being anything less than perfect. So it becomes artificial. You are absolutely correct. I would not stall for one second at the chance to play Seminole, even if from where I sit currently I am not sure I understand the esteem it gets. sixcat 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 808nation said: Wasn't able to catch it live, but watched some highlights and looked like fun. Didn't realize how long of a hitter Wolff was. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Yeah, he was pretty legendary in college and the AM ranks for his distance. I was glad to see him settled down after a bit of a rocky start. I'm sure it's somewhere if you dig deep enough, but I'd love to see the actual scores each player shot. Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: I'm sure it's somewhere if you dig deep enough, but I'd love to see the actual scores each player shot. McIlroy = 70 (-2) - Finished with 4 birdies and a double. DJ = 76 (+4) - Finished with 2 birdies, 2 bogeys and 2 doubles. Fowler = 67 (-5) - Finished with 7 birdies and 2 bogies. Wolff = 71 (-1) - Finished with 3 birdies and 2 bogies. MaxEntropy, GolfSpy_SHARK, Golfspy_CG2 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodags Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 808nation said: Wasn't able to catch it live, but watched some highlights and looked like fun. Didn't realize how long of a hitter Wolff was. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app The announcers mentioned that if the PGA had a draft like the NBA, he would have been Zion.... Great college record! Quote Handicap 12 Location: North Carolina Driver: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex 3-Wood: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex Hybrids: TaylorMade GAPR Mid, GAPR Hi Irons: TaylorMade P-790 5-PW, Oban Shafts, R+ Flex Wedges: Cleveland RTX 56 Full Grind, Oban shafts, Cleveland RTX 60, Mid Grind, Oban Shaft Putter: Odyssey DF-550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodags Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 It was definitely great seeing live golf on TV. Come on Masters! Quote Handicap 12 Location: North Carolina Driver: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex 3-Wood: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex Hybrids: TaylorMade GAPR Mid, GAPR Hi Irons: TaylorMade P-790 5-PW, Oban Shafts, R+ Flex Wedges: Cleveland RTX 56 Full Grind, Oban shafts, Cleveland RTX 60, Mid Grind, Oban Shaft Putter: Odyssey DF-550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shodags said: The announcers mentioned that if the PGA had a draft like the NBA, he would have been Zion.... Great college record! So what you're telling us is, Oklahoma State is throwing wads of cash at the best junior golfers in the world and giving their parents homes and jobs? Shodags and revkev 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Shodags said: The announcers mentioned that if the PGA had a draft like the NBA, he would have been Zion.... Great college record! He is a great player. For the PGA though, I feel his game has some holes he needs to plug to become a major star. Specifically around the short game. Shodags 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, sixcat said: McIlroy = 70 (-2) - Finished with 4 birdies and a double. DJ = 76 (+4) - Finished with 2 birdies, 2 bogeys and 2 doubles. Fowler = 67 (-5) - Finished with 7 birdies and 2 bogies. Wolff = 71 (-1) - Finished with 3 birdies and 2 bogies. Thanks For that, I knew DJ struggled, but had no idea it was that bad...ha Rickie was on fire on the back nine. sixcat 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 So what you're telling us is, Oklahoma State is throwing wads of cash at the best junior golfers in the world and giving their parents homes and jobs? Officially, No. sixcat 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 20 hours ago, cnosil said: Officially, No. This is really not news is it? I feel like we have all but accepted that kids and families are getting paid to play college sports. Thats why i think it is comical that there is this big push to pay student athletes. As a college athlete I saw what is available to them. I was a wrestler so not much came my way but the football players and basketball players.. Yeah, they were well taken care of. At a school known for its golf program, I am sure there is money being passed around. Shodags 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I played but recorded the event and watched Sunday evening - enjoyed it and loved seeing a course that’s been a hush hush one as long as I could remember - too bad the East Coast didn’t have our weather - they were getting rain when we weren’t - it was fast, firm and windy day, that would have been more fun. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatjasonlee Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 10:44 AM, Quigleyd said: He is a great player. For the PGA though, I feel his game has some holes he needs to plug to become a major star. Specifically around the short game. I was watching another TaylorMade video where they were playing golf limbo with stingers. It looked like Matt Wolf didn't have that shot in his bag. Is he a shot shaper at all? Not implying that makes him a worse player. I was just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 17 hours ago, thatjasonlee said: I was watching another TaylorMade video where they were playing golf limbo with stingers. It looked like Matt Wolf didn't have that shot in his bag. Is he a shot shaper at all? Not implying that makes him a worse player. I was just wondering. I am not sure. I think he pretty much just hits that high bomb fade. I am sure he can work it some, but I think is unique motion limits him in that area some, As well as overall touch. It just seems hard to have touch with that kind of swing. He is a very high level ball striker though. It is interesting when you look at some of these young guys just hitting the tour. They are all amazing ball strikers, but tend to lack imagination and short game. After Hovland won in Puerto Rico he even said "my short game sucks". Shortly there after started working with a short game specific coach. His short game was extremely one dimensional. As long as they can swing away, these guys can light up courses. When it gets tricky I think they lack the imagination of tool box of golfers from 10 years ago.. It could be largely due to the overall distance these guys hit the ball. They have all shown they can win though. thatjasonlee 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatjasonlee Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 7:37 AM, Quigleyd said: I am not sure. I think he pretty much just hits that high bomb fade. I am sure he can work it some, but I think is unique motion limits him in that area some, As well as overall touch. It just seems hard to have touch with that kind of swing. He is a very high level ball striker though. It is interesting when you look at some of these young guys just hitting the tour. They are all amazing ball strikers, but tend to lack imagination and short game. After Hovland won in Puerto Rico he even said "my short game sucks". Shortly there after started working with a short game specific coach. His short game was extremely one dimensional. As long as they can swing away, these guys can light up courses. When it gets tricky I think they lack the imagination of tool box of golfers from 10 years ago.. It could be largely due to the overall distance these guys hit the ball. They have all shown they can win though. What I find a little sad is the missed opportunity with shot tracers now. Back in the day, when you had player shaping long irons into the green, that would've been great to watch with shot tracers, but the tech was not available. Now, you get to see the shape of that drive, but not as fun when the second shots are mostly short irons and wedges. My own opinion, I really think that shot tracer made golf so much more enjoyable to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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