Kyle21 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I will start with the negative, for me the red face/ twist face tech is visually confusing. Of all things I really struggle with being able to square the club face at address. Like I seriously can’t tell when I’m squared up. I’m a 4 handicap but used to be a lot better. So I’m shocked I’m having this problem. I can’t be the only one, but I’ll figure it out. Aside from that, the driver is hot. Solid shots are long and miss hits are shockingly longer than they should be. The stealth plus in my opinion is not the most forgiving by any stretch. I also should mention the sound it makes is incredible. cksurfdude, GolfSpy_SHARK and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Why does the red face and twist face have anything to do with squaring the club face at address? The only thing that matters is if it's square at impact. Pick a point a foot in front of you on the target line, point the face there and swing. Easy game cksurfdude, NM01 and GolfSpy_SHARK 1 2 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Considered going custom route and getting one with grey or different color face? GolfSpy_SHARK, PMookie, Kyle21 and 2 others 5 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Kyle21 said: I will start with the negative, for me the red face/ twist face tech is visually confusing. Of all things I really struggle with being able to square the club face at address. Like I seriously can’t tell when I’m squared up. I’m a 4 handicap but used to be a lot better. So I’m shocked I’m having this problem. I can’t be the only one, but I’ll figure it out. Aside from that, the driver is hot. Solid shots are long and miss hits are shockingly longer than they should be. The stealth plus in my opinion is not the most forgiving by any stretch. I also should mention the sound it makes is incredible. I wish it looked more like my Sim 2 Max GolfSpy_SHARK, sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 3 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I can understand the square at address. All mental. Do you have a picture of it from top down, I have honestly not swung or even looked at these but now I am curious tony@CIC, cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Considered going custom route and getting one with grey or different color face? 17 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: I wish it looked more like my Sim 2 Max First thing I did when the customizer came out was designed one that looks more like the Sim 2! haha tony@CIC, GolfSpy_APH, sirchunksalot and 3 others 3 1 2 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Lacassem said: I can understand the square at address. All mental. Do you have a picture of it from top down, I have honestly not swung or even looked at these but now I am curious You can def see the face and it is different from what you normally see visually. I however like it. sirchunksalot, GolfSpy_SHARK, fixyurdivot and 3 others 6 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: You can def see the face and it is different from what you normally see visually. I however like it. Hmmmm not sure if I would have an issue with alignment on that. To each their own! sirchunksalot, Kyle21, cksurfdude and 2 others 5 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: You can def see the face and it is different from what you normally see visually. I however like it. I can now understand what the OP is talking about. The contrast in color is definitely different than most drivers. Do you suppose TM chose the red color to indicate "hot"? Cool blue color wouldn't be inspiring . Kyle21, THEZIPR23, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle21 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 This particular issue I’m having is definitely a person to person thing. There is just something about the color contrast/design that isn’t sitting right with me yet. To be honest I wish the face was black and white. Red is innovative and very cool, but not ideal for me. Before the stealth plus I was gaming the 2017 M1 Driver and never had these issues. It’s definitely a mental thing and I will figure it out, just was curious if anyone was experiencing something similar. cksurfdude, revkev, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 We are all different for sure - I have the plain Stealth but it's the same red face. I had a small visual issue at first in that it appeared a bit closed. I just hit it for a while on the range and got used to it. Having written that has the OP played with the settings at all? When you write having issues closing the face are you hitting pushes? If so you may wish to close the face (go up in loft) one notch. My friend was having trouble with hitting some low hooks and he easily fixed it by opening the face one. (At my recommendation which his pro supported) sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle21 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, revkev said: We are all different for sure - I have the plain Stealth but it's the same red face. I had a small visual issue at first in that it appeared a bit closed. I just hit it for a while on the range and got used to it. Having written that has the OP played with the settings at all? When you write having issues closing the face are you hitting pushes? If so you may wish to close the face (go up in loft) one notch. My friend was having trouble with hitting some low hooks and he easily fixed it by opening the face one. (At my recommendation which his pro supported) I have not played around with the adjustments, but I will give that a shot next time I’m on the range. Thanks for the input! revkev, cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, THEZIPR23 said: You can def see the face and it is different from what you normally see visually. I however like it. Looking at it from that angle doesn’t really give me any info of how it looks at address. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Kyle21 said: I will start with the negative, for me the red face/ twist face tech is visually confusing. Of all things I really struggle with being able to square the club face at address. Like I seriously can’t tell when I’m squared up. I’m a 4 handicap but used to be a lot better. So I’m shocked I’m having this problem. I can’t be the only one, but I’ll figure it out. Aside from that, the driver is hot. Solid shots are long and miss hits are shockingly longer than they should be. The stealth plus in my opinion is not the most forgiving by any stretch. I also should mention the sound it makes is incredible. Can I ask why you purchased a driver that you can't even address the ball correctly with? I mean most people would hard-pass on a club that they put down by the ball and it gave them zero confidence in. Plenty of drivers that are just as good as the Stealth+ that wouldn't give you the issues at address. If I was standing over a shot thinking "man I don't know if I can line up correctly with this club" it would immediately go back into the fitting cart. I don't care what the numbers are, if you can't be confident over the ball then it is only going to create issues on the golf course when there is any sort of pressure PMookie, cksurfdude, Kyle21 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, THEZIPR23 said: You can def see the face and it is different from what you normally see visually. I however like it. Same! I get behind the ball so much that I don’t see the face at all at address. cksurfdude and THEZIPR23 2 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Looking at it from that angle doesn’t really give me any info of how it looks at address. Edited it. KC Golf, revkev, brogies and 5 others 4 4 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle21 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 1:47 PM, jlukes said: Can I ask why you purchased a driver that you can't even address the ball correctly with? I mean most people would hard-pass on a club that they put down by the ball and it gave them zero confidence in. Plenty of drivers that are just as good as the Stealth+ that wouldn't give you the issues at address. If I was standing over a shot thinking "man I don't know if I can line up correctly with this club" it would immediately go back into the fitting cart. I don't care what the numbers are, if you can't be confident over the ball then it is only going to create issues on the golf course when there is any sort of pressure Great question, when I got fitted for the club it initially looked odd at setup, but didn’t really notice a problem. When I got fit for that driver I seriously could not hit the ball any better, like I’ve never hit a driver that good before. Was not until after I had purchased and received the club did these issues occur. Hobert and brogies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle21 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Been over a month now since I started this discussion, and I’d like to update y’all. No longer have these alignment issues, just took a while for me personally to get comfortable over the club. It’s a great feeling to finally feel confident pulling out the driver again. That being said, I’ll never buy a club again without being 100% confident with the product. Feel dumb for how I went about buying the club, but oh well I love it now. revkev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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