DStar Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I've developed a tendency to slice my driver at the moment and it's really bugging me. I was having some practice with my set-up last night and noticed I feel like I'm standing too close to the ball.. Could this be part of the problem? I guess by being too close I'm adjusting my swing path to get the club back to the ball.. I know practice is the way forward (and I'll be working on that) but just wondering if anyone had been doing a similar thing and found a little more distance helped. Steve Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 50 minutes ago, DStar said: I've developed a tendency to slice my driver at the moment and it's really bugging me. I was having some practice with my set-up last night and noticed I feel like I'm standing too close to the ball.. Could this be part of the problem? I guess by being too close I'm adjusting my swing path to get the club back to the ball.. I know practice is the way forward (and I'll be working on that) but just wondering if anyone had been doing a similar thing and found a little more distance helped. Steve Able to post a video? Of course it could be a problem and may cause you to get steeper and more over the top with your swing, however I am no pro. That is just my brief thinking of how if I stood too close what would happen. I also think balance plays a part. For me if I am too close or far I find the weight in my feet go too heel and toe side and cause strike inconsistencies. EasyPutter, DStar and tony@CIC 3 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment
DStar Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 I'll try and do a video later tony@CIC 1 Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
DStar Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 OK, here's a quick video of my driver swing..any tips gratefully received 20221026_171142.mp4 Nolan220 and EasyPutter 2 Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
MattF Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 You're standing on the wrong side of the ball!! Now that that's out of the way, have you played around with ball position and stance? From the video I can't tell if you have a bit of a closed stance, but if you don't, have you tried closing it a bit? Muckinfiddle, tony@CIC, Nolan220 and 4 others 2 4 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 Link to comment
DStar Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 I'll get a couple of better videos this afternoon, from back & side on. After looking at this it's not the best one.. Nolan220 and MattF 2 Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
EasyPutter Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Like Matt I am no Pro but this is what a PGA Pro had me try and what I try to practice with every time I tee up a ball. It is to slow down the backswing (think deliberate) with the trailing foot (for you is left) back a few cm from the direct line to the intended target, and the swing path is more in to out that when done right will induce a bit of a draw. Once the ball is away, hands end up high and more out than over the shoulder. WHEN I can do it right the ball flies much better than when I don't. Nice how your swing is just low enough to clip the tee out of the ground sending it forward. DStar, Nolan220, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Derek Verified Hack, ~25 handicap Golf for exercise and peace of mind. WITB ( That's Linked as is everything underlined ) |> Big Dogs: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Max D (10.5), Tommy Armour TA1 3h (19), O'Donnell Triumph Maraging (15) (27), Ginty Trouble Club (29) |> Blades: First StrikeTM DeliveranceTM 4(23) 5(26) 6(29) 7(33) 8(37) 9(41) P(45) |> Chipper: Orlimar Escape (37) |> Wedges: Worx (55) Lovett (59) |> Flatstick: L.A.B. Golf DF2.1 C130 Supercharged 3.5+ Q6 Slope Premium MGS Logo Ball mark IGBRC International Golf Ball Rescue Commission / Founder Member Graduate/Mentor "The World's Greatest Golf Club Without The Course" Member #334 Tester It's all lies I tell you, everywhere the golf ball comes to rest! If it wasn't for inconsistency, I would have no consistency in my game! Link to comment
NM01 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 First off without a ball a swing doesn’t really matter because our brain reacts differently when there is a ball there. No instructor wants to see a swing that doesn’t hit a ball. With that said your problem starts with an improper setup. Your shoulders, hips and knees aren’t square to each other. This will lead to and improper takeaway which you have by rolling the club open in the takeaway and getting your right arm on top of the left when it should be the opposite. It’s all compensations in the swing from here. You fire the hips open which is incorrect and one of those thoughts in golf that needs to go away. This causes you to be steep. Based on what I see you are probably hitting the ball off the heel which is going to add movement that is fade to slice biased. You are also losing control of the club by losing your grip on your left hand Some options. Go find a pro in person or online to take lessons from. Use amg videos for setup, grip, takeaway and backswing or Chris Ryan’s beginner series. Buy Monte Scheinblums grip and setup then either efficient swing or no turn cast. Join Milo lines academy which has a monthly subscription or a yearly one. It offers courses on building the swing and comes with monthly swing evaluations from Milo or one of his 3 coaches. DStar, MattF, Muckinfiddle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
MacTourney Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Pretty good overall summary by RB, but I would prioritize getting hands-on lessons first as there are several pre-swing issues that should be addressed like posture, weight distribution, walk in, grip, ball placement, etc. For instance, and something many overlook, when your feet were together you moved the trail foot and weight backward and unless you know what you're doing that's usually a mistake because the hands-shaft-face went along for the ride and changed everything about its set up orientation. Pre-swing is so important it frees up most everything else so eventually you'll find and sense speed is something that comes from within the system, not something to put into the system. By the way, it looks like you sliced the tee too. Edited October 28, 2022 by MacTourney DStar 1 Quote Good hand action comes from good body action. Link to comment
DStar Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Here's the rear & side views with a ball I need to work on this over the winter as it has the capacity to ruin my round. Irons are generally much better and controlled. 20221028_142259~2.mp4 20221028_142959~2.mp4 I'll be booking in with the pro to go over it but just thought I'd get some tips to work on to remove any really obvious issues. Appreciate the input guys Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 @MattF, write this 100 times on the blackboard: "He's standing on the RIGHT side of the ball" DStar 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
Muckinfiddle Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Well, I am not a fan of the right arm bending like it does, but my 2 quid may go with tempo. Looks like you are starting your forward swing before getting set. I assume you are used to playing this swing but mechanics wise there is a lot to be desired. I would narrow the stance a bit as well. GaDawg, DStar and edingc 3 Quote Hate yourself, not the game... In my Vessel bag: King SpeedZone MG 3 Satin RAW black 60° ZX 3 wood SW & GW Black 3-PW EV2 Mid-Lock Prov1x- Link to comment
NM01 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DStar said: Here's the rear & side views with a ball I need to work on this over the winter as it has the capacity to ruin my round. Irons are generally much better and controlled. 20221028_142259~2.mp4 29.99 MB · 0 downloads 20221028_142959~2.mp4 31.05 MB · 0 downloads I'll be booking in with the pro to go over it but just thought I'd get some tips to work on to remove any really obvious issues. Appreciate the input guys The fundamentals of grip, posture, setup are all missing here. Your right hand is super weak, left hand super strong. As mentioned earlier your setup isn’t a square body and your posture will promote incorrect swing motion. Until those are fixed looking at anything else in the swing or the results from it aren’t worth addressing because they are all symptoms and not causes. If you are planning to see an instructor then do that and let him/her work on these things DStar 1 Quote Link to comment
DStar Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 I'll go back to basics to get the set up right. Now you say about my feet/body/shoulders I can see it's miles off but I've obviously got used to it as off feels normal - square does not. Practice ground here we come MattF 1 Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
Shapotomous Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Setup & grip!! And by setup i include alignment and posture. Start with getting those right and see what the effect is on the rest of your swing. Next thing after setup and grip is proper takeaway. If you get the setup and backswing mostly correct the downswing is easy!! Just Kidding....it may be easy sometimes but its golf so the easy doesnt last! DStar and MattF 2 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment
NM01 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, DStar said: I'll go back to basics to get the set up right. Now you say about my feet/body/shoulders I can see it's miles off but I've obviously got used to it as off feels normal - square does not. Practice ground here we come If anything in good feels normal it’s usually wrong. It will take time for what’s uncomfortable and correct to set in. DStar, MattF and GaDawg 3 Quote Link to comment
DStar Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1st session on the practice ground. Trying to concentrate on having stronger right hand, better shoulder alignment, slightly narrower stance. Feels weird but better results. 20221030_111758~2.mp4 20221030_110443~2.mp4 Quote Aerojet F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue JPX921SEL 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 120 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment
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