TJ Hall Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I need to go try this club, and maybe start making the argument to my wife why I need a driver upgrade! Rob Person and cksurfdude 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Yes it was one of the ones I listedHahaha, I read Ping twice. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Javs, SliceBoss and cksurfdude 1 2 Quote Driver: AI Smoke Ti 340 Mini Driver, 11.5* @ 10.5* D, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 70g, 43.75" 4 Wood: Stealth Plus 5w, 19* @ 17*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 70g 7 Wood: Stealth2 21*, Stiff Ventus Red TR 6-S Non-Velocore Hybrid: Fli-Hi 23* Hybrid / Iron Replacement, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Irons: JPX923 Hot Metal Pro, 5-GW, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: S23, 54* & 60*, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter: Moment X Tour @ 35" & 71*, Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, White/Red Ball: Tour CG Technology: Anarch Rangefinder, V5 w/ Tags Shot Tracking. https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65161-vortex-optics-rangefinders-2024-member-test/?do=findComment&comment=1089247 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/66852-unofficial-review-tpi-virtual-assessment https://forum.mygolfspy.com/classifieds/ - DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE CLASSIFIEDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 46 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said: I’m guessing it’s the spin reduction and the hotter face? Possible, also looks like there was a bit more angle increase too. cksurfdude and Rearviewmirror 2 Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 32 minutes ago, TJ Hall said: I need to go try this club, and maybe start making the argument to my wife why I need a driver upgrade! Good.luck. I showed my wife while in the dicks sporting goods store what the leftover and used drivers were still selling for, she immediately grabbed my arm and said we were done in there. cksurfdude, brogies, Javs and 2 others 1 4 Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 13 minutes ago, Rob Person said: Good.luck. I showed my wife while in the dicks sporting goods store what the leftover and used drivers were still selling for, she immediately grabbed my arm and said we were done in there. If I showed her the prices, she would do the same thing. New club - trade in - cost of replacement balls (of course I would not need to replace them) = happiness…can we really put a price on that??? Last few clubs were “they were such a good deal I couldn’t pass up” cksurfdude and Rob Person 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 My local store had 1 LH version on demo…took a few swings with it. Distance was extremely consistent across the entire face…of the 10 balls, all were within 2 yards distance-wise. My side dispersion was not ideal…could just take some getting used to. Clubhead was big, but not overwhelming behind the ball. Sound off the club was loud and sounded similar to what I remember from previous Pings. Wasn’t enough at this point for me to pull the trigger. Rob Person and Rearviewmirror 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I'm considering going back for a full fitting to check out the other shafts as well... Literally can't stop thinking about how pure this club was. TJ Hall 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 14 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said: I'm considering going back for a full fitting to check out the other shafts as well... Literally can't stop thinking about how pure this club was. They only had the Alta shaft in a stiff, which seemed very soft to me. Other shaft options should help bring the dispersion in tighter. Rearviewmirror and Rob Person 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 14 minutes ago, TJ Hall said: They only had the Alta shaft in a stiff, which seemed very soft to me. Other shaft options should help bring the dispersion in tighter. I'm gaming the Alta CB stiff (older G425 version mind you) right now, and had tried the Tour, Rogue, and Tensei Orange shafts. I'll be intrigued to see how the other shafts compare - the Tour Black and Chrome both intrigue me, as well as the HZRDOUS Smoke Red. Rob Person and TJ Hall 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Rearviewmirror said: I'm gaming the Alta CB stiff (older G425 version mind you) right now, and had tried the Tour, Rogue, and Tensei Orange shafts. I'll be intrigued to see how the other shafts compare - the Tour Black and Chrome both intrigue me, as well as the HZRDOUS Smoke Red. I’ll be curious to hear your thoughts on the other shafts. I was all over the face (heel, center and toe) and the distance was super consistent, which is different than my current gamer. Might go back when they have more equipment available to try some different setups to see if there is a difference. Rob Person and Rearviewmirror 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Sim Ti 3 wood Titleist U505 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons (4-PW) Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, TJ Hall said: I’ll be curious to hear your thoughts on the other shafts. I'll report back - fitting on Thursday. I'm going to drop my fitter a note to make sure he has the other shafts in stock. Rob Person and TJ Hall 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 https://www.golfmonthly.com/buying-advice/ping-g430-max-10k-vs-taylormade-qi10-max-driver-read-our-head-to-head-verdict?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1O-DXDkqnVj5QrjSBwcvFJx4y82arG7OKSHRlAPM7-OuQxZs-H8yD_wr0 Rob Person 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYER38 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 That extra carry was pretty crazy to see just off the head. I also use the stock Alta CB 55 Stiff. Tried a few different shafts but this 1 has enough "whip" for my swing speed. I was able to hit the G430 10k with the same shaft Friday and can honestly say I was VERY surprised at the results. Extra 8-12 yards was very nice and found it to be very controllable compared to my G425. It almost felt "auto correcting" But i also swing different indoors so would like to try it outdoors before I spent the money for the upgrade Rob Person and TJ Hall 2 Quote DRIVER Paradym Ai SMOKE MAX D w/ Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 55-R 10.5* HYBRID Big Bertha 19 w/ UST Recoil DART 75-S 20* IRONS TS3 Forged 4i-GW w/ True Temper Score LT 100-R WEDGES Glide Forged Pro w/ ZZ115-W 52-10*/58-10*/58-6* PUTTER HB SOFT 8 w/ Center Shaft 3* Check out my Tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 50 minutes ago, JAYER38 said: That extra carry was pretty crazy to see just off the head. I also use the stock Alta CB 55 Stiff. Tried a few different shafts but this 1 has enough "whip" for my swing speed. I was able to hit the G430 10k with the same shaft Friday and can honestly say I was VERY surprised at the results. Extra 8-12 yards was very nice and found it to be very controllable compared to my G425. It almost felt "auto correcting" But i also swing different indoors so would like to try it outdoors before I spent the money for the upgrade I do as well. Focal points on setup are different for me indoor vs outdoor. Maybe as I become a better golfer, that won't matter as much Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, JAYER38 said: That extra carry was pretty crazy to see just off the head. I also use the stock Alta CB 55 Stiff. Tried a few different shafts but this 1 has enough "whip" for my swing speed. What shafts did you try and what did you think of them? Did the non-CB shafts make the head feel heavy? I'm playing the CB55 Stiff now (swing in the 100-104mph range at present) and trying to narrow down competitors Looking at the Ping shaft chart I'm guessing the HZRDUS Smoke red and Chrome will be the only ones that keep me in similar launch conditions. I'm also tempted to try a Ventus shaft to see how it feels with this head - not sure I would pay the $$$ now but mainly want to see what it does to dispersion. TJ Hall 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYER38 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Being my swing speed is around 90mph I tried the Chrome Tour(was 1/2"-3/4" shorter then stock length) and it felt good still but was not to my liking as I prefer some "whip". This would forsure be something I would say you should try if you can find it with the stock length! I tried the Alta Slate 55 R & Alta CB Black 55 R & S. Both shafts in R had to much "whip" but created great distance with the 10k just ruined dispersion as you loft the feel for the face/head. The Alta CB Black S was perfect for me as it gave me the best of all worlds just a bit more spin then I care for. I also got to try the Jupiter 1 in R and that felt heavier and stiffer then all the above. It was easy to feel the head just heavier in my hands all together and killed speed. The HZRDUS Red 60 is a great performer and id call it same feel weight wise with less "whip" then the Chrome Tour but not as "heavy" feeling as the Jupiter shaft. Launched to low for me but felt great and did what I asked of it. That would be my recommendation for you honestly. Take into account I swing slower and score is usually 98-102 so I can only relay what I think of each and how it felt to me/my knowledge of explaining it. Very excited to hear your feedback after your fitting TJ Hall and Rearviewmirror 2 Quote DRIVER Paradym Ai SMOKE MAX D w/ Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 55-R 10.5* HYBRID Big Bertha 19 w/ UST Recoil DART 75-S 20* IRONS TS3 Forged 4i-GW w/ True Temper Score LT 100-R WEDGES Glide Forged Pro w/ ZZ115-W 52-10*/58-10*/58-6* PUTTER HB SOFT 8 w/ Center Shaft 3* Check out my Tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYER38 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 47 minutes ago, Rob Person said: I do as well. Focal points on setup are different for me indoor vs outdoor. Maybe as I become a better golfer, that won't matter as much 1 can only hope this is the case! I actually just realized it was a thing for me this weekend as I played a round and warmed up on my sim at home. WAY different even on video so makes lessons hard honestly TJ Hall and Rob Person 2 Quote DRIVER Paradym Ai SMOKE MAX D w/ Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 55-R 10.5* HYBRID Big Bertha 19 w/ UST Recoil DART 75-S 20* IRONS TS3 Forged 4i-GW w/ True Temper Score LT 100-R WEDGES Glide Forged Pro w/ ZZ115-W 52-10*/58-10*/58-6* PUTTER HB SOFT 8 w/ Center Shaft 3* Check out my Tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, JAYER38 said: Being my swing speed is around 90mph I tried the Chrome Tour(was 1/2"-3/4" shorter then stock length) and it felt good still but was not to my liking as I prefer some "whip". This would forsure be something I would say you should try if you can find it with the stock length! Amazing - thank you, this is super helpful. I don’t plan to try any other heads this time around and so plan to go deep on shaft and loft/lie settings to find the optimal setup. My fitter is already laughing at me that I’m back already after hitting it last week! TJ Hall and Rob Person 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYER38 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 38 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said: Amazing - thank you, this is super helpful. I don’t plan to try any other heads this time around and so plan to go deep on shaft and loft/lie settings to find the optimal setup. My fitter is already laughing at me that I’m back already after hitting it last week! I really hope he gets you the right combo you can see some great results with! I can also say with some sim & course play ive tried a 10.5* & 12* driver. For whatever reason a 12* left down works better then a 10.5* lofted up. Dont understand it but weird things. This is also the G425 we are talking about so Rearviewmirror and TJ Hall 2 Quote DRIVER Paradym Ai SMOKE MAX D w/ Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 55-R 10.5* HYBRID Big Bertha 19 w/ UST Recoil DART 75-S 20* IRONS TS3 Forged 4i-GW w/ True Temper Score LT 100-R WEDGES Glide Forged Pro w/ ZZ115-W 52-10*/58-10*/58-6* PUTTER HB SOFT 8 w/ Center Shaft 3* Check out my Tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, JAYER38 said: I really hope he gets you the right combo you can see some great results with! I can also say with some sim & course play ive tried a 10.5* & 12* driver. For whatever reason a 12* left down works better then a 10.5* lofted up. Dont understand it but weird things. This is also the G425 we are talking about so This is the other reason I don't want to try any other driver models in this fitting - I want to try different lofted heads. I started with the G425 Max in 12º and was just recently moved to lofting it down to 10.5º. My understanding is that lofting a Ping head down slightly opens the face (my shot shape is draw), while lofting up will close the face. I'm hoping that some combo of head lofted up/down and shaft will soften my left miss (which can be pretty left) and keep a mild draw in my well struck ball flight. TJ Hall 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGA3 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said: https://www.golfmonthly.com/buying-advice/ping-g430-max-10k-vs-taylormade-qi10-max-driver-read-our-head-to-head-verdict?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1O-DXDkqnVj5QrjSBwcvFJx4y82arG7OKSHRlAPM7-OuQxZs-H8yD_wr0 Great article. Thanks! Rearviewmirror and Rob Person 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Alright - new driver ordered This is going to be a longer post, but bear with me! Current gamer is G425 Max w/ Alta CB Stiff. I'll cut to the chase and say I ordered the 10K in 10.5º with the Ping Tour 2.0 Black shaft. I definitely didn't feel like I was particularly swinging out of my shoes today and felt a bit tired, but still found the 10K to be a massive improvement from my current driver in terms of feel/consistency/carry distance. My goal today was to narrow dispersion and find a combination that consistently carried 240 (the distance I find I need to take bunkers out of play on most of the courses I play. One key note as you look at dispersion - I draw the ball, but for consistency/comparison I decided to target the center line today vs right side first cut, so I was looking for a consistent left miss. In the end I tried: Stock Alta CB Stiff - Does exactly what it says on the tin - great standard option, slightly shorter carry than everything else for me Ping Tour 2.0 Chrome - Felt lovely but a little too "whippy" for me in the downswing and while the performance results were almost identical to the Black, I didn't feel as solid with it. Ping Tour 2.0 Black - The top of the heap for me - unbelievably stable, and the only shaft I had zero right misses with (my shot shape is a draw) HZRDOUS Red RDX 6S - It was VERY close between this and the Ping Black. One right miss was the difference maker (see how close the stats were below). Ventus X Black 6S - Like a slightly shorter version of the Tour Black, less stable, a little meh Autoflex X - Felt like swinging a strand of spaghetti but was actually very very easy to square up. This was a no for me based on lack of confidence swinging it - results wise it was strong. Tensei Orange 6S - This was the one shaft I hit like absolute garbage - my fitter took it out of my hand after 3 swings. For me, the Tour 2.0 Chrome, HZRDOUS Red RDX and Tour 2.0 Black were all VERY close on performance and I really think it'll come down to feel for folks between the stock Ping offerings. For me the spin dropped a little too low with the Chrome and RDX at times, so ended up going with consistency. The RDX and Tour Black were the only two that I cracked 250 carry with. The decision to buy today was kind of a no brainer comparing my gamer dispersion chart and an average carry increase of 12 yards (!). Now I just need to wait for it to be delivered and for the courses to recover from the snowstorm... Let me know if you want any A/B comparison charts for the other shafts I tried - bearing in mind I'm one human, didn't have my best swing today, and was pretty gassed by the end (hitting 73 shots). Yellow = G425 Orange = G30 10K w/ Tour 2.0 Black Rob Person, wely324, TJ Hall and 4 others 5 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @Rearviewmirror Looks like the 10k has a bunch more launch on it! Nice pickup! TJ Hall, Rearviewmirror and Rob Person 2 1 Quote Driver : GBB Epic, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (44.75") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Hybrid: Z H85, 19° loft, HZRDUS Black 85g, 5.5 flex Irons: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright) Putter: DS72 C, 35”, PP60 grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Yowza! Rob Person 1 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Depot Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I got my G430 10K last week. I ended up getting a 9 degree with a Ping Tour 2.0 Black 75 gram Stiff (FYI, i have hit the 10K in the Chrome 65 Still also). I have had some experience with the black shaft in my last gamer, G430 LST 9 degree in the 65 gram stiff version. I can do a long winded review on shafts, I have tried a bunch, but I will stick the the head. I was very surprised by this head. I am low 160mph ball speed guy with my LST, seeing the same with the 10K. I always struggled to get the face pointed in the right direction with my LST and would miss it right. The 10K is such a different feeling head, the only way I can describe it is that it is more balanced feeling when swinging it. I haven't had it outside yet, but all this evidence is based on my Bushnell Launch Pro, but will get it on course a few times this weekend and report back. I have hit probably 7 dozen shots with it, and have only had 2 bad misses right, and I just left the club face totally open on those, but the miss wasn't as bad as my LST misses when I leave the face open. I am getting about the same distance with my 10K as my LST, with way better dispersion. My miss with the 10K appears to be more draw biased. But, I am smoking most balls into the fairway. It is weird to say but it just feels so more balanced in the swing and my misses don't have tons more spin. I can hit a heal strike or a toe strike and it is just a little cut or draw, no sweeping slice or hook. And the best part is they still have really good distance. Instead of a bad heal ball being 240 and 25 yards right, it is like 260 and 10-15 yards right. And low strikes, man they seem to fly like the ones in the middle of the face. My middle of the face strikes are like 2400rpm and my bottom strikes with the 10k are around 2500rpm. Speaking of strikes around the head, it is hard to feel where you are hitting it. Unless you hit one in the extreme, you really have to concentrate on where your strike was. And the ball flight doesn't change much when you are missing it around the face (I do that a lot). Another surprise was how the club sits on the ground. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it is a great looking club, but man does it just feel confident inspiring when sitting on the ground. I would say it has a slight toe in look, but it just sits so perfect behind the ball to my eye. I did sit (haven't hit it) a Smoke AI down and it sat behind the ball nicely too, but the shape of the face at address of the 10K just makes me feel so confident over top of it. I know this was a little all over the place, once I play it some more I can report back with some better details if anyone is interested. TJ Hall, Rob Person and Rearviewmirror 2 1 Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping_Ping Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Was kinda hoping Ping would return with the Black and Copper color scheme to spice it up a bit Rob Person 1 Quote Sports Enthusiast Football & Golf steal the show Traveling to warmer weather locations Bourbon Spirits and Czech Style Pilsners Johnny Tobacconaut is my go to golf stogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyN Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just added mine to the bag replacing the g425 max. Seeing about 6-8 yards more carry but due to the reduced spin, about 18-20 total yards more. TJ Hall, brogies and Ping_Ping 3 Quote G430 Max 10k 9° 3+ Hy-wood 17° 4+ Hy-wood 20° 4 Hybrid 22° Zx5 mkII 5i-P CBX 48°, CBX FF 53° & 58° Frontline Elevado Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brogies Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Damn...my mouth is watering with all these G430 Max 10K posts. Thinking about getting properly fitted for a driver (I fit myself, pretty damn well might I add) and putting the G430 Max and G430 Max 10K up against my gamer G425 Max. TJ Hall and Rob Person 2 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 10K 9º | Ping Tour 2.0 Black 75S Fairway Wood: Ping G430 Max 3W 15º | Ping Tour 2.0 Chrome 75S Hybrids: Ping G425 Max 3H 19º | Tensei Orange 80S & Ping 4i iCrossover 22.5° | Ping Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S Irons: Mizuno JPX921 Forged (5-GW) | Dynamic Gold 120 S300 Wedges: Ping s159 54º & 58º | PING Z-Z115 Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Ball: 2023 ProV1x / 2024 Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 FINALLY got mine today! I'll take it to the range tomorrow and A/B it with my G425. It is a gorgeous club with the Tour Black shaft. Hoping I get the similar result in terms of 10+ yards of carry and a bit more roll. That's what I was seeing on Trackman. I took a couple of photos of the heads side to side - the clubs were leaning on my leg so don't intuit anything in terms of how open/closed the faces are. Definitely a lot more "going on" with the 10K, and it does confirm what I thought in the bay which was that the turbulators are a bit more prominent on the 430 series. But the head shaoes are remarkably similar. TJ Hall and Headhammer 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearviewmirror Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Back from the range. I will say - it was 40ºF today and I also felt a bit stiff so definitely wasn't giving my best. I was topping out at around 99mph SS and most were in the 95mph range. All of that said, I think these were pretty spectacular numbers for a cold day and range balls (albeit this is the TopTracer adjusted numbers). That said - here's what I was seeing - this is all the range from highest to lowest, and I only subtracted true heel ball misshits: - G425 Max (10.5º flat) - Carry 220-241yds - Total 248-272yds - Height 54 to 72ft - G430 10K (10.5º flat) - Carry 211-239yds - Total 239-271 yds - Height 42 to 90ft - G430 10K (11.5º flat) - Carry 224-246yds - Total 256-281 yds - Height 66 to 87ft My PRGR launch monitor had carries in 238-240yd range for the 10K @ 11.5º, so I'm fairly confident the TopTracer numbers are close enough ± 5yds for what I would see with regular balls. I also definitely needed the 11.5º in the to get the ball consistently in the air. On to the dispersion - Red (G425 Max) Yellow (10K @ 10.5º) Blue (10K @ 11.5º) : Like I said, it was a pretty trash day for me in terms of swing quality and consistent strike, but if this was a bad day on the golf course I would be fine. I pushed one 10K at 11.5º way right, and then also hit one a little low out of the bottom of the face which was a little short, but if you look how tight the other six shots are, it was insane - literally 30yds right to left and 15yds front to back. What this doesn't show is that almost every single shot with the 10K at 11.5º (what I was fit into) was either a tight 20yd push draw, or a dead straight frozen rope. I honestly cannot understand the witchcraft that has gone into this driver. I'll be putting my G425 on sale this weekend, so that's a pretty strong endorsement given I haven't even gamed this on the course yet. Playing golf Monday, so can report back on the on the course performance. I did find I had to tee it a hair lower, and also have the ball a little further towards the toe to find the center of the face. Golf2Much and brogies 2 Quote Ping G430 Max 10K (10.5º) Review Post - Ping G425 Max 3W (14.5º) - Ping G425 Max 5W (18.5º) - Ping G425 Max 4 Hybrid - Ping G430 Max 9W - Ping i230 6-UW - s159 54º (S-grind) and 58º (B-grind) - LAB Golf DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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