Preeway Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, Erin B said: It was a race between the 5 and 6 dot for me after all was said and done. I had to re-evaluate the 6 again (see past posts) before I could give Angelo an honest assessment. Tipping was the key for me. Do you feel tipping it kept your ball flight a tad lower than it would have been otherwise? 27 minutes ago, Josh Parker said: The 5 dot ended up the winner for me. I have it cut down to 44.75. How are you measuring? Length of shaft with adapter or with the head on as well? Javs 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Javs said: Really appreciate you providing all the feedback and information on this shaft. It has been extremely interesting to follow the journey to get the shaft the way you like it. That makes sense to me. I think 45 is the longest I would go as well. My BRNR mini is a tad too short. I think it’s a 43 1/2. Clubs are in the car right now. I think that 45 would be the perfect transition between the mini and my main driver. Javs 1 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) @Preeway I’m measuring from the bottom of the club to the top of the shaft. I definitely think tipping helped keep the ball lower. Edited March 21 by Erin B Javs 1 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, Javs said: I can see your point. Especially since I like to choke down an inch or so if I get the longer shafts. So, I should just order them cut down. That's what I typically do on a new shaft or driver. I have tried to play longer several times and always end back up at that 44.5-44.75 Erin B, CudaKota66 and Javs 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Erin B said: @Preeway I’m measuring from the bottom of the club to the top of the shaft. Can you send a pic? Trying to get a better sense for how driver length is measured. For example, from the end of the grip, would you call this 45.5”? Javs and Erin B 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Preeway said: How are you measuring? Length of shaft with adapter or with the head on as well? Shaft with adapter length. Javs and Preeway 2 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, Preeway said: Can you send a pic? Trying to get a better sense for how driver length is measured. For example, from the end of the grip, would you call this 45.5”? https://www.usga.org/equipment-standards/equipment-rules-2019/equipment-rules/part-2-rule-2.html somewhere between 45.5 and 45.75 would be my guess based on looking at your photo. But I am guess on where a 60* angle would intersect your tape measure. Preeway, Javs and Erin B 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Preeway said: Can you send a pic? Trying to get a better sense for how driver length is measured. For example, from the end of the grip, would you call this 45.5”? Yes, 45.5 because you take of .25 for the end of the grip Preeway and William P 2 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Erin B said: Yes, 45.5 because you take of .25 for the end of the grip @Preeway based on where the club interacts with the ground to the end of the grip minus 1/4 inch for the grip end. Last time I looked it up that’s the measurement you should use on every club. Others may do it differently, but the measure should be consistent however you measure. This is from several sites I’ve researched: Use a 48 in (1.2 m) measuring stick or golf club ruler to measure your club. Lay your club down horizontally with the sole angled at 60 degrees. Drivers and irons are measured from the end of the grip to the heel of the club. Putters are measured from the top of the grip to the bottom sole of the club. Edited March 22 by Erin B William P, Preeway, Javs and 1 other 4 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Erin B said: Hi MGS troops! I received the “tipped” 5 dot shaft with the callaway tip for the paradym TD and took it to the range with @Derek Eskam and we both hit it. Derek needs a 6 dot. The 5 dot tipped is the shaft for me. I hit one fade, all the rest were straight down the middle. They were a little high, but not like the untipped shaft. The height was manageable for me and felt like it was hitting a 9.5 but not quite a 10. I think the height was more so because the shaft is still a little long and it was more off the higher portion of the face. Derek was hitting a draw but he said it was because he was a little handsy. He was a few yards longer but was higher than me. Again, he’d be perfect in the 6 dot. I still think the shaft is a little long for me even though Newton took 1/2 inch off the tip. I’ve decided this is the shaft I’m going to keep, but I’m going to take another 1/2 to 3/4 inch off the top to get the right length depending on tomorrow’s fitting session with Ping. This is the first time with all the shafts I’ve tried with Newton that a shaft felt exactly right minus the length. It reminds me of how I felt with the steadfast shaft when I hit it for the first time. The best feeling with the Newton is it was very consistent even on miss hits. For instance, I hit a couple on the heel and toe, and lost very little distance and MOI. The fade was minimal off the toe. The heel shot only lost maybe 10 yards. The only bad mis-hit was when I teed it up too high. I’m hoping this information will help you decide on what is right for you on this shaft. Tipping was the key for me and Angelo was very patient and helpful in putting me in the correct shaft configuration I needed. Now that I know what’s the best configuration for me it will be hard to decide between the steadfast and the newton shaft when I finally get my TSR 4 driver. I’m leaning Newton because of the outstanding customer service I’ve received and am seriously considering keeping the other 5 dot shaft I have so I can play around with it. It’s in a ping tip, and I want to keep it there and maybe not tip it, instead cut off an inch on the top. I can always replace the tip for another driver head or maybe cut it for my 3 wood. The options are multiple. Good luck and happy birdie hunting! If you decide not to keep the untipped Newton 5-Dot, PLEASE let me know! I have come to the absolute conclusion that the 4-Dot is just too soft in flex for my swing, and I could use a different shaft for my Ping G430 Max driver. When I am able to swing with a slower, deliberate stroke, the 4-Dot Newton performs very well, but as soon as I "go after it" a bit with that shaft, I get too many draws and worse yet uncontrollable hooks. I can get an extra 20 yards out of the Newton 4-Dot when compared with either my HZRDUS Gen 4 Black 6.0 shaft or the Tensei Raw Orange shaft that is currently in my G430 Max, but I generally know where the ball is going with both of those shafts (straight to a tiny draw or fade with the HZRDUS Black 6.0 and a fade with the Tensei Orange shaft), so having a Newton shaft that is slightly stiffer and 5 grams heavier than the 4-Dot that I own would probably be perfect. CudaKota66, Josh Parker, William P and 2 others 4 1 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 49 minutes ago, Erin B said: Yes, 45.5 because you take of .25 for the end of the grip Per the rules of golf: The length is defined as the distance from the point of the intersection between the two planes to the top of the grip. I have never seen anyone reference taking .25 off for the end of the grip. CudaKota66 and William P 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, funkyjudge said: If you decide not to keep the untipped Newton 5-Dot, PLEASE let me know! I have come to the absolute conclusion that the 4-Dot is just too soft in flex for my swing, and I could use a different shaft for my Ping G430 Max driver. When I am able to swing with a slower, deliberate stroke, the 4-Dot Newton performs very well, but as soon as I "go after it" a bit with that shaft, I get too many draws and worse yet uncontrollable hooks. I can get an extra 20 yards out of the Newton 4-Dot when compared with either my HZRDUS Gen 4 Black 6.0 shaft or the Tensei Raw Orange shaft that is currently in my G430 Max, but I generally know where the ball is going with both of those shafts (straight to a tiny draw or fade with the HZRDUS Black 6.0 and a fade with the Tensei Orange shaft), so having a Newton shaft that is slightly stiffer and 5 grams heavier than the 4-Dot that I own would probably be perfect. Roger that! funkyjudge, William P and TJ Hall 3 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, cnosil said: Per the rules of golf: The length is defined as the distance from the point of the intersection between the two planes to the top of the grip. I have never seen anyone reference taking .25 off for the end of the grip. I’ve always done it that way. There’s usually a 1/4 inch difference between a club without a grip and one with. But that’s beside the point, the point being is consistency. If you measure one club one way, measure all your clubs the same way, whether you take the end of the grip into account or not. Usually when you work with DTC companies they’ll give you their required information for measuring. For instance: New Level measurements use ungripped shaft data not a shaft with a grip. They make you check a box to agree to their measurement requirements. Javs, William P and cnosil 3 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, Erin B said: I’ve always done it that way. There’s usually a 1/4 inch difference between a club without a grip and one with. But that’s beside the point, the point being is consistency. If you measure one club one way, measure all your clubs the same way, whether you take the end of the grip into account or not. Usually when you work with DTC companies they’ll give you their required information for measuring. For instance: New Level measurements use ungripped shaft data not a shaft with a grip. They make you check a box to agree to their measurement requirements. Have never seen anyone measure that way. I agree with doing it consistently but not including the 1/4" for the grip may mean you exceed legal length on a driver. Javs and William P 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, cnosil said: Have never seen anyone measure that way. I agree with doing it consistently but not including the 1/4" for the grip may mean you exceed legal length on a driver. Point taken. cnosil and William P 2 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 31 minutes ago, Erin B said: Point taken. Golf is just one of those weird industries where everyone does it a little different. Ping used to measure their putters differently and I am pretty sure that TaylorMade measures their irons differently. at least New Level makes it clear what they do. Erin B and Josh Parker 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Erin B said: I’ve always done it that way. There’s usually a 1/4 inch difference between a club without a grip and one with. But that’s beside the point, the point being is consistency. If you measure one club one way, measure all your clubs the same way, whether you take the end of the grip into account or not. Usually when you work with DTC companies they’ll give you their required information for measuring. For instance: New Level measurements use ungripped shaft data not a shaft with a grip. They make you check a box to agree to their measurement requirements. That has been the clubmaker/Clubfitter standard method for measuring club length since I began doing this type of work in the late 1980s. CudaKota66, Josh Parker, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Wow that was fast - especially since I requested a lefty TM connector! I ordered the 2 & 3 dot demo the beginning of the week and they arrived last yesterday afternoon (standard free shipping). It was too late for hitting the driving range and today's weather is miserable rain and wind combo here in Florida. Tomorrow's weather is sunny, high 70's and less wind AND couples 18 hole shamble. I've already switched out the Shotscope sensors (to the 3 dot) so I should get a pretty good feel for distance and dispersion performance tomorrow. I've got 4 scheduled games next week so between those and the range I should get a pretty good feel for both. William P, Josh Parker, MIGregB and 4 others 5 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIGregB Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 17 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: Wow that was fast - especially since I requested a lefty TM connector! I ordered the 2 & 3 dot demo the beginning of the week and they arrived last yesterday afternoon (standard free shipping). It was too late for hitting the driving range and today's weather is miserable rain and wind combo here in Florida. Tomorrow's weather is sunny, high 70's and less wind AND couples 18 hole shamble. I've already switched out the Shotscope sensors (to the 3 dot) so I should get a pretty good feel for distance and dispersion performance tomorrow. I've got 4 scheduled games next week so between those and the range I should get a pretty good feel for both. Yeah, my Newton is arriving today and we also have miserable weather. But our's is in the form of solid rain! Four to six inches of it!! Guess I'll have to be content with an indoor range for a few days. Edited March 22 by MIgregb Erin B, tony@CIC, Josh Parker and 1 other 3 1 Quote Dark Speed X Driver w/ Motore X F35R shaft, ZX 5 Wood & 7 Wood w/Evenflow Riptide 5.5 shaft, Fli-Hi 24 deg Hybrid Iron, JPX919 Hot Metal 5-GW w/Project X LZ 5.5 shafts, SM9 54D & 58M deg wedges, Sabertooth White Ice, -Pro V1X (preferred) or Tour X ball, X5 Watch, Nikon Laser 500 range finder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIGregB Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Whoa, this is a great looking shaft! (Pictures don't do it justice!!) I am a bit surprised about something, though. As close as I can measure it using a metal club ruler to the end of the grip, the total club length is coming in at 46". That's 1/4" longer than my Motore X, and 3/8" longer than the stock LINQ shaft. If Newton measures length without the grip, that's in line with their specs. So I'm not suggesting that this is a problem, I just hadn't thought about what it meant before buying. Hopefully I can control it well and find the center of the face often enough so I get the benefit of the longer club, swing speed. Angelo is so responsive to questions that I'll send him LM results to see if he'd suggest any tweaks. Edited March 22 by MIgregb Josh Parker, Javs, William P and 2 others 5 Quote Dark Speed X Driver w/ Motore X F35R shaft, ZX 5 Wood & 7 Wood w/Evenflow Riptide 5.5 shaft, Fli-Hi 24 deg Hybrid Iron, JPX919 Hot Metal 5-GW w/Project X LZ 5.5 shafts, SM9 54D & 58M deg wedges, Sabertooth White Ice, -Pro V1X (preferred) or Tour X ball, X5 Watch, Nikon Laser 500 range finder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 28 minutes ago, MIgregb said: Whoa, this is a great looking shaft! (Pictures don't do it justice!!) I am a bit surprised about something, though. As close as I can measure it using a metal club ruler to the end of the grip, the total club length is coming in at 46". That's 1/4" longer than my Motore X, and 3/8" longer than the stock LINQ shaft. If Newton measures length without the grip, that's in line with their specs. So I'm not suggesting that this is a problem, I just hadn't thought about what it meant before buying. Hopefully I can control it well and find the center of the face often enough so I get the benefit of the longer club, swing speed. Angelo is so responsive to questions that I'll send him LM results to see if he'd suggest any tweaks. It’s a sexy shaft indeed! Newton tipping my shaft was very important to my swing. It’s still a little too long for me, when I hit it I was choking up about an inch. We’ll see at the fitting today. MIGregB, Josh Parker and William P 3 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 I managed to get to the range today and it wasn't great for the Newton. It was slower, less accurate and down just little bit everywhere. I think mainly due to weight. I love the stability, but I just felt and was clear to be slower with it. Maybe in just a better fit for the 4 dot? CudaKota66, MIGregB, Nick_D and 4 others 5 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I managed to get to the range today and it wasn't great for the Newton. It was slower, less accurate and down just little bit everywhere. I think mainly due to weight. I love the stability, but I just felt and was clear to be slower with it. Maybe in just a better fit for the 4 dot? The 4 dot was so close to staying in the bag for me but when I went after it or overswung the 5 won out. Javs, William P and CudaKota66 2 1 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 @GolfSpy_APH @Josh Parker just got done with the fitting and found that my driver shaft is an inch too long and I need to change my launch angle. Not the shaft’s fault and I hit both the steadfast and the Newton. Newton was longer than the steadfast by about 5 yards. It felt good, but I am whacking an inch off. Other than that, it’s perfect. I hit their TSR3 with an inch shorter shaft and lost zero distance. The fitter said cut it. I said okay. Ball flight was perfect when I changed the launch angle. More to come! GolfSpy_APH, William P, Preeway and 3 others 5 1 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaKota66 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I received my 4-dot today & will install it tonight. Angelo did contact me today & confirm his recommendation I also demo the 5-dot. I told him I didn't want to 'steal' someone else opportunity. If the 4-dot fails, I'll return it & demo the 5-dot. I'm systematic - both by nature as well as career William P, MIGregB, Josh Parker and 3 others 5 1 Quote Epic Flash King F8 3W Epic Flash Max 7W G425 4i-PW CBX2 50/54/58 Inovai 6.0 Tour Response or Triad (both thanks to MGS testing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Dumb question did the shaft come with a grip already installed? Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 27 minutes ago, Javs said: Dumb question did the shaft come with a grip already installed? Yes sir. Lamkin. Pretty much stock grip but I believe you have options. CudaKota66 and William P 2 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, Josh Parker said: Yes sir. Lamkin. Pretty much stock grip but I believe you have options. Thank you Josh! William P 1 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Played exclusively with the Newton shaft today. Still an inch too long but hit it well. I did have a couple fades when I really went after it. I equate that to bad form. All my drives put together averaged 255 yards. I cannot complain about that consistency based on the fact that I am reworking my swing. Distance will improve as I get used to the new AOA I’m working on. That and cutting it to my fit. More to come! William P, CudaKota66, MIGregB and 1 other 4 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 45” shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver w/5 Dot Newton tipped 44” shaft Ping 425 Max 3 wood w/Stiff Steadfast Jupiter 1 shaft PXG 0317 17* hybrid New Level 4-PW 902PD Irons w/6.5 ProjectX IO shafts PXG 311 Gen 3 52 & 56 Wedges w/ Xstiff KBS TourLite shafts Ping Anser Putter OnCore VeroX 1/2 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaKota66 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/22/2024 at 7:13 PM, CudaKota66 said: I received my 4-dot today & will install it tonight. Angelo did contact me today & confirm his recommendation I also demo the 5-dot. I told him I didn't want to 'steal' someone else opportunity. If the 4-dot fails, I'll return it & demo the 5-dot. I'm systematic - both by nature as well as career Is it proper for me to quote myself? Oh well....too late now. I did as promised - I installed the Newton 4-dot & got in a range session. 3 caveats: In Indiana, it's said that March "comes in as a lion & leaves as a lamb." This is proving accurate this year (cool/cold days & wind advisories abound this year) Demoing anything after a 4-month winter hiatus is a disservice to the new item Trying to determine the playability of any golf product is best done throughout a round - score & handicap be damned. Pounding balls on a range is almost pointless. That being disclaimed, the Newton 4-dot performed well enough to not be returned at this time. 13 days to go & counting..... If my tempo is too fast, it's a snap hook to 3rd base. If I don't swing through the ball. it's a slap single to right field. When my grip & tempo are right, it's a bomb where I'm aiming. The Newton is still attached to the Paradym head & I hope to get a round in with it by next weekend (damn it, I have to work for a living ). Winning Powerball numbers will be gladly appreciated. Until next weekend.... Javs, Josh Parker and MIGregB 3 Quote Epic Flash King F8 3W Epic Flash Max 7W G425 4i-PW CBX2 50/54/58 Inovai 6.0 Tour Response or Triad (both thanks to MGS testing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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