TaylorMade Qi10 Drivers - 2024 Forum Member Review

[Jean D]

Hi all, testing wrapped up on the autoFlex SF405x Dream 7 and posted. I’ve switched back to the C6 Blue 60S shaft for my Qi10Max head , but the gains over the stock Tensei shaft were mind-boggling!  Haven’t been able to play all week, but hoping to get back out there early next week.

JD

 

[revkev]

Really nice review on that shaft - Jean D - thanks / I have the Siri flex SF 505 that I gamed for a year in a Ping G410 - I also have an extra TMag adapter so as considering it as an attempt to salvage the Qi10 head that Taylor Made sent me to replace my damaged Stealth 2. In the interim though I’ve appealed to them and they are sending me a stealth 2 head.  Yeah!!!

However I wanted you to know that your review would have convinced me not to waste the time with the auto flex. My results with it and the Ping were very similar to yours wirse on the dispersion actually - at least you ere right for the most part I was half left, half right with my issues. 
 

I know there’s some controversy or disagreement relative to the importance of shaft verses head as to which is most important. I think that argument while fun, misses the point. Both matter, both can mess things up or work in concert with a particular players swing to produce the best possible results based on that players needs. This test and test group has done a great job of demonstrating that. And before someone chimes in grip has a part in it too. Smaller but a part never the less.
 

In some ways I wish Taylor Made had said “tough luck, we replaced your head, live with what we sent you.” I’d have gone for a fitting and I suspect this Qi10 would be great in the right shaft for me. It looks beautiful - great job here testers, thank you. 

[GolfSpy SAM]

Dear Testers, I just thought I'd post this here.  This head is seriously impressive - just look at the names that are using this thing!  

  And @GolfSpy_BEN - pretty cool that you're being featured in their promo stuff.  Well done. 

[Michael.Sandoval33]

As I am getting more comfortable with my swing, I adjusted the loft down to approximately 9.5° today at the range and was getting good, penetrating drives down the line. Not sure about the yardage as there are no distance markers but I'm guessing nearly the same as when the Max is lofted upwards, just with different trajectory. It's been really blazing out here so I haven't taken the driver out on the course in a couple weeks but with my tee time next week, I am expecting really good results as it continues to perform exactly as I like it to. 

[Jean D]

Morning all !  Practiced at the driving range yesterday… and the Tensei AV Limited Blue 65R just came alive for me with the Qi10Max head.  Not sure what happened, but I was hitting controlled, well-grouped shots with a high percentage in the fairway.  Maybe my autoFlex SF405x experience has helped me stop trying to go for absolute distance and focus on precision instead…?

 

[Michael.Sandoval33]

2 hours ago, Jean D said:

Morning all !  Practiced at the driving range yesterday… and the Tensei AV Limited Blue 65R just came alive for me with the Qi10Max head.  Not sure what happened, but I was hitting controlled, well-grouped shots with a high percentage in the fairway.  Maybe my autoFlex SF405x experience has helped me stop trying to go for absolute distance and focus on precision instead…?

 

That's what I was going to ask since you returned to a more "normal" shaft. Do you feel like you now have more control after having used the Autoflex and adjusting to that? 

[Jean D]

12 minutes ago, Michael.Sandoval33 said:

That's what I was going to ask since you returned to a more "normal" shaft. Do you feel like you now have more control after having used the Autoflex and adjusting to that? 

I'm not sure if I necessarily have more control, but I certainly have a better feel for where the club is loading and where the head is coming on my downswing.  With the autoFlex, it never felt natural to me, even after 737 drives with it- but @KC Golf and @chisag are both absolutely rocking theirs and have posted some fantastic numbers. That’s why there are so many shaft and head offerings: what works for one may not work for another.  I’ve since passed the SF405x on to @Rearviewmirror for further testing and to see if it works for him.  Looking forward to seeing his results!

At the moment, I am going between the Qi10Max and Qi10 LS…but would actually love to get my hands on a Qi10 standard to compare all 3 with my very unorthodox swing

Jean

 

[Michael.Sandoval33]

30 minutes ago, Jean D said:

I'm not sure if I necessarily have more control, but I certainly have a better feel for where the club is loading and where the head is coming on my downswing.  With the autoFlex, it never felt natural to me, even after 737 drives with it- but @KC Golf and @chisag are both absolutely rocking theirs and have posted some fantastic numbers. That’s why there are so many shaft and head offerings: what works for one may not work for another.  I’ve since passed the SF405x on to @Rearviewmirror for further testing and to see if it works for him.  Looking forward to seeing his results!

At the moment, I am going between the Qi10Max and Qi10 LS…but would actually love to get my hands on a Qi10 standard to compare all 3 with my very unorthodox swing

Jean

 

Very true on all fronts Jean. I am seeing really good results with the lite flex Accra which I was not really expecting as well. 

Also, I have pondered the thought of trying out the standard head. They are not awful on the pricing for user heads if you can find the right trustworthy seller. 

[chisag]

1 hour ago, Jean D said:

I'm not sure if I necessarily have more control, but I certainly have a better feel for where the club is loading and where the head is coming on my downswing.  With the autoFlex, it never felt natural to me, even after 737 drives with it- but @KC Golf and @chisag are both absolutely rocking theirs and have posted some fantastic numbers. That’s why there are so many shaft and head offerings: what works for one may not work for another.

 

... I let my 82 yr old pard play my autoFlex for 18 holes and he regretted leaving his shaft in the car. It should not have been a big leap as I put a NVS 45 A-flex shaft in his driver and he has killing it for 6 months now. For his age he is crazy long at around 185-200 and sometimes even a little longer but more impressive is he rarely misses a fairway. But he was all over the place with the AF hitting it high and low, missing both left and right (a very rare miss for him) and here is his quote "I think I hit one good shot in about 20 tries.  The best part of the shaft was how happy I was to get back to mine." He took a few mulligans with little success. 

... I honestly thought he would hit it either better than his NVS or at least similar. I didn't expect him to hit it so poorly. Your quote is spot on "That’s why there are so many shaft and head offerings: what works for one may not work for another." You just never know how the synergy of a shaft and head will work together for your swing, even if it looks great on paper. 

... Adding my own experience I was fit for a Qi10 Max and really disliked it from the first to the last and every swing between. Starting with the over sized bulbous shape I never hit it well one round on the course and after giving it 10 rounds to be sure, I exchanged it for the standard Qi10 and for me, it was almost magical with the very first swing. 

[GolfSpy_BEN]

Now that I have had a decent period of golf with no further equipment malfunctions, I can confidently say that that, while nice, the QI-10 family of drivers is not for me. With that in mind, I have shipped the head to @GolfSpy BOS and he will be adding his findings to the thread. 

[GolfSpy BOS]

30 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BEN said:

Now that I have had a decent period of golf with no further equipment malfunctions, I can confidently say that that, while nice, the QI-10 family of drivers is not for me. With that in mind, I have shipped the head to @GolfSpy BOS and he will be adding his findings to the thread. 

Big thanks to @GolfSpy_BEN for sending it over... I tossed a shaft in and will be hitting at least a bucket of balls tomorrow to see how it performs for me! 

[chisag]

19 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

Big thanks to @GolfSpy_BEN for sending it over... I tossed a shaft in and will be hitting at least a bucket of balls tomorrow to see how it performs for me! 

 

... Gonna be interesting to hear your opinions. To be honest, I am not expecting much as it seems to fit those with an index of 5.9 or lower so it might be too much driver for you. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

3 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Gonna be interesting to hear your opinions. To be honest, I am not expecting much as it seems to fit those with an index of 5.9 or lower so it might be too much driver for you. 

Driving is definitely a strength for Bryan so I could see this being a good fit.

[Michael.Sandoval33]

Unfortunate to hear that @GolfSpy_BEN won't be along for the rest of the journey. You have been great and very insightful here. But on the flip side, welcome @GolfSpy BOS!! I look forward to following you along on your journey from here. 

[Josh Parker]

22 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... Gonna be interesting to hear your opinions. To be honest, I am not expecting much as it seems to fit those with an index of 5.9 or lower so it might be too much driver for you. 

I see what you did there.... 

[chisag]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Driving is definitely a strength for Bryan so I could see this being a good fit.

 

46 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

I see what you did there.... 

... Thanks Josh, seems a few have missed the jest. 

Edited Saturday at 07:14 PM by chisag

[GolfSpy BOS]

1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... Gonna be interesting to hear your opinions. To be honest, I am not expecting much as it seems to fit those with an index of 5.9 or lower so it might be too much driver for you. 

Phew!! I have to update my profile, just made it!

 

Now, if you had said “taller than 5’9” Rory and I might have a few issues with the driver.

[GolfSpy BOS]

1 hour ago, Michael.Sandoval33 said:

Unfortunate to hear that @GolfSpy_BEN won't be along for the rest of the journey. You have been great and very insightful here. But on the flip side, welcome @GolfSpy BOS!! I look forward to following you along on your journey from here. 

I took exactly one swing with it at Kingsmill… and it was a nice baby draw that rolled out to about 275, which was a pretty good number that day. 
 

Will be interesting to see, the last TM driver I had was the M5 and I loved the shape and see a lot of that in the Qi10. 

[TJ Hall]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

Big thanks to @GolfSpy_BEN for sending it over... I tossed a shaft in and will be hitting at least a bucket of balls tomorrow to see how it performs for me! 

What shaft are you using in the Qi @GolfSpy BOS?

[GolfSpy BOS]

51 minutes ago, TJ Hall said:

What shaft are you using in the Qi @GolfSpy BOS?

I’ll be starting with the Terra Forza White since I still have the demo, and can do some direct comparisons to my epic max LS. Then I’ll go from there, could be a TR Red, MotoreX F3, or I might just have to go shaft shopping

 

no one needs to bring up @GolfSpy_APH’s Autoflex Dream 7. Ok? Please, no one mention that one too.

[TJ Hall]

3 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Driving is definitely a strength for Bryan so I could see this being a good fit.

After watching @GolfSpy BOS at RNK, I agree that driving is a strength…it was quite impressive to watch!

[TJ Hall]

3 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

I’ll be starting with the Terra Forza White since I still have the demo, and can do some direct comparisons to my epic max LS. Then I’ll go from there, could be a TR Red, MotoreX F3, or I might just have to go shaft shopping

 

no one needs to bring up @GolfSpy_APH’s Autoflex Dream 7. Ok? Please, no one mention that one too.

I thought you might use the Terra Forza.

Are you talking about the whip that @GolfSpy_APH was swinging?  

[GolfSpy BOS]

27 minutes ago, TJ Hall said:

After watching @GolfSpy BOS at RNK, I agree that driving is a strength…it was quite impressive to watch!

You saw the best day down there, that’s for sure! The last day wasn’t bad either… a lot in the middle was forgettable. Haha

[Josh Parker]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

 

no one needs to bring up @GolfSpy_APH’s Autoflex Dream 7. Ok? Please, no one mention that one too.

You won't do it.......

[buckpillar]

20 hours ago, GolfSpy_BEN said:

Now that I have had a decent period of golf with no further equipment malfunctions, I can confidently say that that, while nice, the QI-10 family of drivers is not for me. With that in mind, I have shipped the head to @GolfSpy BOS and he will be adding his findings to the thread. 

@GolfSpy_BEN was there a huge performance drop off with the Q10? I know in the past with some Taylormade drivers for me was more about feel and ball clubface interactions that had turned me away. Also my old driver was equal to if not just a little better than the TM drivers that I felt I don't need to spend $500 for a new driver if I'm getting the same performance from my current driver.

[GolfSpy_BEN]

1 hour ago, buckpillar said:

@GolfSpy_BEN was there a huge performance drop off with the Q10? I know in the past with some Taylormade drivers for me was more about feel and ball clubface interactions that had turned me away. Also my old driver was equal to if not just a little better than the TM drivers that I felt I don't need to spend $500 for a new driver if I'm getting the same performance from my current driver.

Beyond 2 of the heads cracking, the numbers I saw from the Qi-10 and the LS were no better than what I was averaging with the Paradym TD that I was gaming prior to the test. I also found the TD to be a touch more forgiving. I had some really great drives with the QI-10, as well as some really bad ones. So the decision to send it on to someone, who may see better results with it than I did, was an easy one for me. 

[Jean D]

While my autoFlex SF405x testing is done and I’ve sent the shaft to @Rearviewmirror for him to have a go, I’ve done a bit of a change when it comes to my drivers (Qi10Max gamer and Qi10 LS).  I was at my local retailer (GolfTown Kanata) and was waiting on some regrips when I started playing with the Cobra LTDx (2022) on the Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 Shaft 60 6.0 (R) flex.  Not bleeding edge or as eye-watering priced as the 2024 crop of drivers, but holy heck I am loving this combination! My lateral dispersion is tighter by about 20yds and my carry dispersion was tighter by about 10 yds. My biggest take-aways are that my FIW percentage has jumped to 74% over the Qi10 Max w/SF405x combo (47%) while my average carry distance has stayed roughly the same (232yds). Straighter and playable works for me! It was on sale at a very reasonable price… and I *may* have picked one up to play with over the rest of the season.  I also picked up their LTDx 3 Fairway wood on the same shaft…   

Edited Sunday at 11:04 PM by Jean D

[GolfSpy BOS]

Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there following this test!

I was excited to get on the range today and hit some balls with my middle child.  We ended up having a putting competition on the practice green after and had a nice time together.

But, that's not why you're reading... you came here for this:

So how'd it go?  In a way, @chisag was right... this is a whollllle lot of driver.  If I were to sum it up in a meme...

 

First we have the incumbent's numbers.  My epic Max LS,  most shots with the Terra Forza White.

Very representative numbers for me.  This was after warming up (and my iPad apparently warmed up too much too and shut down in the sunlight.  Thankfully I was able to switch to my phone to run the Rapsodo MLM2PRO and left my phone in the shade.

263 Carry and 105.6 swing speed is awesome for me.  Just a range session before I hit high marks of 106.2 and 158.8MPH ball speed, both the highest I recall seeing on Rapsodo before, so the Qi10 has work to do.

And the Qi10... Very impressive numbers.  This was also with a Terra Forza White shaft, and it felt right at home.  The Qi10 is a 9* head and I actually had to loft it down .75* and use the upright setting.  I'm really liking the shape (it reminds me of the M5 that I loved) and the feel is great too.  But WOW, I've never hit 110mph on Rapsodo before and while not in this data set, I did hit 159.9MPH ball speed before the iPad overheated! I even switched back between the Callaway and Taylormade and I seemed to be getting a few MPH more out of the Qi10, which I was not expecting at all.  

I'm really excited to get this on the course and see if some of the results carry over as deep as some of my balls on the range today!

 

 

I didn't think I would be saying this so soon, but it's already the Qi10's spot to lose in the bag... the bomb-pop head cover is going on and this Qi10 driver is going right in the bag baby!

 

 

[buckpillar]

45 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there following this test!

I was excited to get on the range today and hit some balls with my middle child.  We ended up having a putting competition on the practice green after and had a nice time together.

But, that's not why you're reading... you came here for this:

So how'd it go?  In a way, @chisag was right... this is a whollllle lot of driver.  If I were to sum it up in a meme...

 

First we have the incumbent's numbers.  My epic Max LS,  most shots with the Terra Forza White.

Very representative numbers for me.  This was after warming up (and my iPad apparently warmed up too much too and shut down in the sunlight.  Thankfully I was able to switch to my phone to run the Rapsodo MLM2PRO and left my phone in the shade.

263 Carry and 105.6 swing speed is awesome for me.  Just a range session before I hit high marks of 106.2 and 158.8MPH ball speed, both the highest I recall seeing on Rapsodo before, so the Qi10 has work to do.

And the Qi10... Very impressive numbers.  This was also with a Terra Forza White shaft, and it felt right at home.  The Qi10 is a 9* head and I actually had to loft it down .75* and use the upright setting.  I'm really liking the shape (it reminds me of the M5 that I loved) and the feel is great too.  But WOW, I've never hit 110mph on Rapsodo before and while not in this data set, I did hit 159.9MPH ball speed before the iPad overheated! I even switched back between the Callaway and Taylormade and I seemed to be getting a few MPH more out of the Qi10, which I was not expecting at all.  

I'm really excited to get this on the course and see if some of the results carry over as deep as some of my balls on the range today!

 

 

I didn't think I would be saying this so soon, but it's already the Qi10's spot to lose in the bag... the bomb-pop head cover is going on and this Qi10 driver is going right in the bag baby!

 

 

Got some good numbers wow 105 club speed... I remember those days

[Michael.Sandoval33]

Got some more reps in with the Qi10 this morning. Hand speed is improving slowly... but it's getting there. Still much to be worked on in my driver swing as a whole, but the Qi10 Max makes it feel so easy.

https://youtube.com/shorts/aBC3hopwrLA?si=JnSZ4uH-I6Ie_W71

Just a quick short of one of my swings today.

Edited Monday at 06:14 PM by Michael.Sandoval33