Popular Post rkj427 Posted Monday at 12:00 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:00 PM My thoughts are similar to those of the regular contributors who have already posted above. Such as the comments provided by @Tom the Golf Nut, @TJ Hall, @Berg Ryman, @bens197, @Shankster, @Indy_Oz, @William P, @EasyPutter. @Rob Person, and many more of the regular participants. Quality over quantity, and even at 30 or so products tested, it allows for a more "organized or structured" area to read reviews which interest them. Great job by all of the staff this past year, which at times has been super busy with on-going tests in progress. TJ Hall, Indy_Oz, bens197 and 9 others 10 2 Quote Driver & Fairway: Titleist TSR3 10 degree - Ventus TR Blue & TSR3 15 - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Hybrid: TSR2 21 degree - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Irons: Titleist T200 3G (4) & T150 - (5-G) - Project X LZ Wedges: Vokey SM8 54, and 58 Putter: Cameron Phantom X 7.5 Ball: Pro V1 & Maxfli Tour Link to Motocaddy M7 w/Remote Trolley & Bag Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted Monday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:35 PM Thanks for sharing and being so open about the future of the forum! I'm a fairly new member of the forum and wasn't around during the rollercoaster times. It feels like the forum has been on a trajectory to the moon since I joined in 2023! It's a bummer that you've seen a decline in quality on some of the tests. That makes it an easy decision to trim opportunities to maximize quality. I will say that I have enjoyed popping in and out of testing threads because there have always been multiple, multiple tests going on at once that are of interest to me! Thanks for everything that you and the staff do! rkj427, Josh Parker, TJ Hall and 6 others 9 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE ‘24 Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted Monday at 02:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:45 PM Thinking more about this. I do think the "less is more" is better from a management and quality standpoint. A few others have said that the floodgates have been opened and OEMs reach out for testing, but only the staff really know that answer. Could it be a detrerant to them on future testing, sure but maybe not. The other side I look at is this. It does make it hard to follow as a participating member and keep up with so many test (kudos to staff) but it does make for a ton of searchable content for new and potential members to join this community. If the quality of review isn't there, then the potential for new members drops. I don't know if there is a magic number or even if there is necessarily a win with any end number of test. Thanks for the open communication as always and thank you to the entire staff for killing it this year! Chux13, William P, Rob Person and 4 others 7 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poprocksncoke Posted Monday at 03:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:36 PM It was an exciting year for testing that's for sure! Probably was unrealistic to think this pace would continue. 30 testing opportunities is nothing to sneeze at either. Sometimes quality is better than quantity. Looking forward to see what MGS has in store for next year. William P, RichL85, GolfSpy_APH and 2 others 5 Quote SLDR 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore+ Red 6S R11s Rip Phenom Apex Pro 16 Rivl 52 Black Rivl 58 Black EV 5.3 Duo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chux13 Posted Monday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:24 PM (edited) Appreciate the transparent approach to the 2025 outlook and beyond. It has always been a blast following this group through the years and finally getting myself into the mix after so long. I really do believe in quality over quantity, but still, the outlook on the number of tests is still pretty damn solid. I do agree trying to keep up with the numerous tests can become daunting, but that is the beauty of following along with what interests you. I also see this as being a great opportunity for those to already use what you got and provide some quality "unofficial" tests that members may want to get in front of the masses. This may allow those opportunities to be a spotlight if it is a well written assessment on something that is trending or has been missed in the past. As @EasyPutter mentioned prior, I love the idea of helping those very interested individuals in how to tell a story and frame their reviews. There is such a high ceiling with this group and I hope it only continues to hit that height and challenge even further. I look forward to 2025, but still want to enjoy 2024 too! Keep up the good work mod-peeps and thanks for all you do! Edited Monday at 04:26 PM by Chux13 Fixed a run-on GolfSpy_APH, EasyPutter, poprocksncoke and 4 others 7 Quote Chux Bag o' Magic: Black Ops 10.5° 0317X Proto Hybrids (17°/19°) 0211 XCor 2021 Irons (5-PW) CBX Zipcore 46° wedge Juggernaut Max CB Full Face 52,56,60° Wedges DF2.1 custom broomstick Chrome Tour ballz Tech: Garmin R10/Galaxy Watch 5 Pro Golf Edition ---Opus Platinum Forum Testing Review--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1247 Posted Monday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:40 PM The last thing I want to see is the MGS team get burnt out by trying to do too much. It has been difficult to keep up with all of the testing this year, partly because I don't know the timelines of when the reviewers are announced to when the tests are published. I do appreciate the "peek behind the curtain". My thoughts: Quality over quantity will always be better. As I've said in another thread; the testing opportunities are great, but that's not how I found MGS or why I'll be staying. However, I would be concerned with the same testers being chosen over and over again. Maybe there could be a private thread where testers could put up a draft that other "good" testers could provide feedback on before publishing? I appreciate the transparency. I didn't fully understand the amount of work it took on the back end to get all of this set up. I would keep the testing schedule private. There is an excitement in not knowing what is coming, as well as stopping some from "gaming" the system. Keeping it private would also help in case something falls through, because we wouldn't know about it anyway. GolfSpy_APH, RichL85, William P and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: Epic MAX LS Hybrid: Rescue 4-GW: Burner Plus SW: MS8 LW: Slazenger Wrath 60 Putter: ? It was a gift with no brand on it Bag: Fuse 2024 Neon Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky CC Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:55 PM I've been a member for 8 years and a reader for even longer. Fully agree that something with this year just felt "off" with the huge number of reviews. I like the focus being put on fewer products being tested, but ensuring those that make the grade are held to a high standard. I would think most OEM's would prefer the 2025 approach as well (assuming their product makes the cut). They'll get more attention and participation/feedback when the focus is put on fewer tests. Thanks for the update and all your hard work! mpatrickriley, William P, Lefty11 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Stealth 2 10.5°, Kai'li Red X Fairway Wood: Rogue ST LS 16.5°, Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 75 X 3 Hybrid: F9, LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85 X 4 Iron: Ping G410 Crossover 5-PW: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff Wedges: Jet Black 50°08F, 54°12D, 58°08M, True Temper Dynamic Gold Black S200 Putter: StrokeLab White Hot OG #7, Evnroll Tourtac grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mpatrickriley Posted Monday at 07:38 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 07:38 PM Let me add myself to the crowd offering a standing ovation to the current team of moderators. Having myself once been part of that team, I have some understanding of the enormous work that goes into supervising tests. And so I say this kindly: 350 testers? You are all insane, in the best and most complimentary way I can say that. It seems to me that one of the difficulties of scaling back would be the temptation to only retain for testing the "big ticket" items. We all know that a Titleist iron test is going to get a bazillion applications, whereas (for instance) Galway rain gear will get a fraction of that. But some of the best reviews and most interesting for the community come from golf items out of the mainstream. Honestly: it's not terribly likely that Titleist is going to release a bad set of irons. But a forum review of a training aid or a new bit of tech or whatnot: those are the reviews that most often give real guidance about a product that you should seek out—or avoid. I don't think I'm merely being a voice for "the way we've always done it" to say that I think I still favor an unpublished review calendar. Yes, for sure, it would help some people make informed choices about what product to apply to test. But from the backside of the operation, there's a huge number of people who apply for everything indiscriminately, and I'm not thinking their behavior would change much. Rather, those who do engage in targeted applications will likely congregate to the same items, and it would likely be the very kinds of reviews I mentioned above (products that truly could be good or truly bad) won't get the solid engagement that they ought to. But I'll conclude where I started: the mod team is amazing. They hauled in OEMs for testing this year that were previous considered impossible for the MGS Forum. Top notch stuff, fellas. Siamese Moose, GolfSpy SAM, GolfSpy AFG and 11 others 11 2 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted Monday at 10:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:13 PM So many well-deserved compliments had already been made by those who have been on the forum for a while and newcomers as well. For those new to the forum who joined just for the "free stuff", it's unfortunate that you've haven't drove in deeper to experience the commodore that exists between forum members. I've truly enjoyed the interactions with my MGS fellow forum members. For those who leave because of fewer testing opportunities, you will be missing out on something special. Going to fewer reviews in 2025 is a great move. Quality will go up on both sides of the equation. On the supply side moderators get to filter through opportunities and pick the ones that the forum members want and need. OEM's will know there are fewer opportunities and will "bring" their best and innovative products to the table. On the demand side, moderators will have the opportunity to select reviewers that are well written, have something to say and will ensure the type of review that the forum, forum members and suppliers will appreciate. Limiting the reviews will also make it easier for forum members to follow them all. Trying to follow 150 plus reviews for several months at a time can be tough. Limiting the number will make it easier to follow all of them as they go through the entire review process. There may be a compromise on revealing the product schedule. Instead of releasing the actual products that are going to be reviewed, why not release the type of products that will be reviewed and when. For example, in June, we're going to be reviewing a rangefinder, sand wedges, a golf bag and a driver. At least with the genre, there could be guesses (even a poll) of what the product is. It may help build a little excitement and will tell those interested in one of those items that a review is coming up. Just a thought. Mods...thank you again for all you do! TJ Hall, RichL85, Lefty11 and 5 others 7 1 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie MSG Tester: Shot Scope LX+ Rangefinder MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons MSG Tester: Titleist Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted Tuesday at 12:58 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:58 AM 2 hours ago, Golf2Much said: ,why not release the type of products that will be reviewed and when. For example, in June, we're going to be reviewing a rangefinder, sand wedges, a golf bag and a driver. At least with the genre, there could be guesses (even a poll) of what the product is. It may help build a little excitement and will tell those interested in one of those items that a review is coming up. Just a thought. That is an interesting take! It would make sense. I am curious how well the companies recieved the testing reviews as well . It certainly is a driving factor if they want to offer another opportunity every year. Perhaps there is an opportunity there to help understand what we, as members, can do better in the future. William P, Shrek74, Lefty11 and 1 other 4 Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted Tuesday at 03:30 AM Author Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 03:30 AM Appreciate all the compliments to the team and support. As for the schedule I think it is pretty clear we will keep the specifics a secret given the feedback, but we may release the timing. Our intention is to have an offseason and that will likely mean most of December and January are release free. The pace will slowly pick up in Feb and March and by the time April hits we hope to bring a few more your way as the whole community will be holding. May June and July will be the bulk (think 1 per week) with August, Sept and October being the finish of the season before going back into the offseason. bens197, TJ Hall, Northern Monkey and 10 others 6 2 3 1 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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