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  1. I wish I could bottle up fall golf season and play in this weather all year. Dropped off my daughter at school and walked 9 on an empty course. 45 minutes later I was 2 over after hitting 7 greens. Good driving, good putting, nothing great but man it was a nice stroll.
    14 points
  2. 1) 7.8'x13' Premium Golf Screen 2) 80' 1" EMT tubing 3) Package Foam Pipe insulation 4) 60 qty 6" bungee balls 5) Country Club Elite Hitting mat 6) Fittings from A1tarps 7) 100 qty 1'x1' sound titles 8. Optoma GT1080HDR short throw projector w/ceiling mount 9) Foresight GC3 with premium course pack 10) ceiling mounted hanging curtains to you know, stop bad things from bad shots. 11) 1 qty Wendy's Frosty
    13 points
  3. For some reason I am reading into your posts that you aren't seeking lessons for yourself but have a great option for remote lessons for us.
    13 points
  4. Not as well as Friday but killed the back 9. Shot a 47/38 85. The greens are healing nicely but they're now shaggy and really slow so judging speed is hard.
    13 points
  5. Played PGA club’s Dye course in Port St Lucie today. Typical Pete Dye, visually intimidating and yet room off the tee, crazy bunkering and shot choices around the green complexes, just a fun course to play. Drove it really great, kudos auto flex, irons were terrible, really terrible, fairway woods, chipping and putting were good to very good. 79 on a pretty tough track - one double hurt, started me on a bit of a bogey train.
    13 points
  6. ... We have already established some insights into Yellow Ball and his favorite movie character Brave Sir Robin from The Holy Grail should have given us a clue, so don't expect him to take you up on your challenge. Found this hiding out over the weekend when getting ready to make some French Toast and it certainly may give us some insight into the age old question of which came first:
    12 points
  7. picked up an early 2000s scotty cameron pro platinum newport that’s in pretty rough shape last night for…$100!! it’s gonna get refinished this winter along with a set of mizuno mp33s
    11 points
  8. My wife played with her Ladies group today, so I headed out for a little practice. I decided to take my Macgregors out for a spin today; haven't hit them in years. However, the range put out the mats last week, and I wanted to hit them off grass. After a few warmups (I was the only one on the range!!) I managed to find the 1st hole open. This guy knows me, or rather he knows my wife as she feeds them peanuts in the shell, and I'm known by association. Sorry!! I'm not the Nut Lady! I also walked today since the weather was sunny but crisp this morning. Pond between #1 tee, #7 tee and fairway, and #9 fairway and green: Met another single on Hole #2 in a cart; nice guy recovering from prostate cancer and a subsequent infection. Poor guy nearly died. It was his second time out this year, and he was still very wobbly. Behind the #2 green, condos are popping up. These were started a few weeks ago. I didn't keep score and sometimes hit multiple shots. With my new Monte swing change I hit the Macs pretty well. They sure feel good when I hit the ball like I should. Surprisingly, bad shots were just bad, and didn't really hurt the hands, even though the temp was about 45º. I may take them out for a full round this weekend.
    11 points
  9. Nothing like crisp morning fall weather, long shadows, morning dew, a cup of coffee, and a range sess. Hope the weather is as spectacular for the rest of you Spies.
    11 points
  10. A slightly amusing story, and reflective of why I am a member of the CHA. The club builder who is building my set of T300 irons (they wouldn't let me buy the component heads) called me today to say they were starting to build my set but they were out of stock of a Nippon 950gh wedge shaft and asked what I wanted to do. I told them that I had an extra uncut Nippon 950gh wedge shaft and that i would bring it down to them right away. Problem solved.
    11 points
  11. Before I left Oregon I had a visit with @rbsiedsc. While I was in out there some things came to light. There are quite a few spies out there that are trying so hard to master this game of golf. I mean he is trying pretty hard here. To start, who in their right mind would swing a driver between two houses with barely enough room to swing? Then goes in the garage to swing and has the same issue. Just ask his garage door opener! Just a thought here…… If you swinging in a confined area you will not have a free flowing swing. You will compensate for the area and ingrain an improper swing. So now we know why his driver sends me off into the oblivion! Did you know @rbseidsc likes to hike? He says that because finding his drive requires a hike. For someone who says he likes to hike, he sure took his time getting to me. I started to panic. Even if he manages to get his driver in check (hopefully sometime soon). Then I think working on the putter would help get you consistently in the low 90’s to possibly even breaking into the 80”s. When I was out on the course with him he had 8 three putts. I felt like a freakin ping pong ball. That’s an easy 8 strokes to take off right there! He had a heck of a day. He even got hit in the back. So Dr. Jekyll here was positive in July. "Happy that things were coming along with his game". Then in August, Mr. Hyde came out and made comments like, “Ugh golf is a cruel game. I just need to accept who I am.” Here is another beauty, “Contemplating not playing again. Swing changes are hard.” Oh boo hoo here. No sympathy from Yellow Ball. If you think getting through these issues are tough try being me. All golfers went through it. It will get better! I’m thinking I need to send you my therapist’s contact information. Yes, golf is hard, swing changes are hard. You can get this game under control. So you wanted to be my agent for a book did ya. Well it already seems like you can crack under pressure. How could you deal with the likes of me on a daily basis? I’m just a little Yellow Ball and I have made grown men slam their clubs and cry like a baby. Grown man cry.mp4 Could you keep my schedule straight? Manage my travel itinerary, book signings, interviews, appearances on talk shows and such? I don’t think so. Hell you can’t even keep your drives straight. Thanks for the offer though but I’m going to take a Hard Pass.
    10 points
  12. I received my Evnroll ER2 Thursday that I ordered from @dlow206 and I'm a happy camper! Eric not only provides excellent customer service, he has knowledge to assist in selecting proper options for a correct fit. Needless to say I would like to thank him and give him the well deserved attaboy he deserves. If you're looking for a putter or whatever, you might want to run it by Eric first.
    10 points
  13. Haven't posted in awhile as my right shoulder partial tear(auto accident) has not been good to my game. Today I posted a 41/45:86 at Plantation Palms, with FIR: 8/14 71% GIR: 2/18 17% Putts: 29 with 7 one putts and a 40% Up & Down. Last week, I played in a 9 hole shootout at Heritage Isles, posting a 38 with 3 birdies. I took first place, 3 skins and a Closest to the Pin.....winnings: $73! Learning to play with the limited range of motion for my right shoulder and the 3 bulging discs in my lower back. Hopefully, this will carry over to the weekend for our Fall Two Day Blitz.
    10 points
  14. So as September came close to an end I had FSA money left and really nothing to spend it on. So I did what I was always tempted to do and went against my original eye Dr’s recommendation and ordered a pair of Single Vison prescription. And would take my chances on things like reading a scorecard etc. Well they came in today and not only look great snd feel so much lighter they worked great on the range. No horrible fat contact. At least none that I could blame on the prescription. I definitely can’t wait to get out and try them on course and give an all around test. But I'm very happy with the results and looks as well. SportRX can’t be beat to work with. Their opticians and experts were extremely helpful in selecting the style, size frame and specs. Uploading my Script was very easy.
    10 points
  15. What happened 3 years ago? New driver? Tried to change your swing? Just random happening? how long did you stick with those instructors? Were you hitting the driver better during the lessons and then struggled to reproduce during practice? why are you opposed to starting with a half swing? Just isn’t how golfers played? Not willing to do intermediate steps to get to the longer range goal? Just an initial guess would be that you have a swing issue and need to take lessons to figure it out. A new driver isn’t going to magically fix a swing issue. you are describing what I believe is a pull hook, ball starts left and then hooks. Do you understand the ball flight laws and what causes this shot shape? This is where launch monitors help, you face is obviously closed since it starts left. The next question is what is the path so you determine if you have an in to out or out to in path. If you don’t want to go the lesson route. You could try to fix by exaggerating and trying to hit push slices? Then working your way back to getting the desired ball flight.
    10 points
  16. Had a good indoor lesson today working on wedges - especially contact and distance control. Instructor put me in different virtual situations around a few greens on the sim, varying the carry & rollout on each shot. Really helpful session as wedge play had been costing me strokes my last few rounds.
    10 points
  17. 23 putts today, yup, you read that right… got a lot of them on video which I’ll be posting soon with my final stage of the Edel EAS #4 putter review. it was one of “those” days
    10 points
  18. Played in a scramble Monday that supports former U of AL players in need and provides athletic scholarships as well. Got to play at The Ledges club in Huntsville, AL. One of the prettiest courses I’ve ever seen and played. Scramble was pretty straightforward, everyone was allowed one mulligan but that’s it. No throws, strings, or gimmicks. Course was in immaculate shape with great views. I drove it very well besides the first two holes (borrowed @Mtbryant01 Cobra driver, it’s legit). Approaches were off and made two long putts but had a couple not great efforts putting too. Team score was 62 and had a great day all around. RTR!!
    10 points
  19. Played yesterday in great weather but was struggling with enjoying the walk because I was putting so poorly. By the time I got to 18, I realized that golf is a humbling endeavor and if you get too married to what you shot, you're eventually going to go crazy. At least, that is how I think I will be. I am striking the ball about as well as I ever have (avg carry with a driver is up from 245 to 260, hit between 11-14 GIR per round) and I should think of that as a positive rather than focus on how I am "wasting it" by not being able to make many 5-10 footers all of the sudden. Ultimately, I have neglected my putting practice because my putting had been pretty good as of late and, wouldn't you know it, my putting started slipping. Hard to justify getting upset about poor putting if you are not practicing putting, right? Final thought is the a recurring realization which is that it is very rare that my game is firing on all cylinders (driving, iron play, wedges, chipping, putting). But I am encouraged by the fact that through lessons I can usually diagnose (if not always fix) the problem. Trying to enjoy the process and not get too wrapped up in results.
    10 points
  20. Yellow Ball has played in Arkansas in late June. It was hot as hell and humid. I hate a sweaty ball. Reminded me of playing in Arizona except with the shower on. If you need me for your Member Guest then I'm coming in my birthday suit. No pockets = No cash! Now you know I've seen you play. Why would I want to throw away my hard earned money! Besides with my current popularity I am starting to get appearance fee offers, and another spy wants to be my agent for a book. @dlow206 paid for my flight out your way. You want me then Buck Up Buddy! Hope my head doesn't swell with all the popularity. I would hate to have to go out an buy all new hats.
    10 points
  21. A cold spell found its way into my area. 40 degrees this morning but I still had the calling. My great run of low rounds came to a screaching halt today. I'm going to chalk it up to playing with a jacket on. I only hit 7 fairways and 8 greens in regulation. No birdies, no double bogies, or three putts. I managed a 79 but it felt much worse. My normal straight drives down the middle decided to fade into the right rough on quite a few holes. Then when I compensated I hit it straight and it went into the left rough. All my clubs were shorter today than normal. No biggie I'll get it together for next weeks round. Got to remain positive!
    9 points
  22. The one cool thing about my job is getting paid to watch hockey games from ice side
    9 points
  23. I've been getting out the last couple of evenings and working with the Swing Jacket in order to keep myself connected and combining that with some of the stuff from NTC and the lesson I took. From the lesson I was focusing on getting a steeper shaft in the backswing and from NTC really focusing on wrist set and cast A. It all seems to be coming along nicely, I've made a few divots in the yard that are at or ahead of where I was imagining the ball to be. I was smarter tonight and took the Divot Board out because I've got rocky soil and don't want to damage a club. I need to get the net up and see how contact is looking, though. I'm planning on doing that this weekend when my schedule isn't get home from work, shower, socialize, eat, and get things ready for work tomorrow. From my last few range sessions, I'm starting to feel like I might just be able to play this game.
    9 points
  24. ... I don't know how old you are but the S**W word is like N**! only spoken by the Knights Who Say N**! and never allowed to be uttered out loud or completely spelled out. Now you must buy the forum a shrubbery.
    9 points
  25. Callaway Apex Pro 3 hybrid arrived! Can't wait to get it on the course, although my Nebraska golf season is dwindling fast. Next question will be does the TaylorMade DHY 4 stay, or will a 23 degree Apex Pro 4 have to get ordered. Personally I hope it's the former, I like the DHY, the gaps were just a little off with the DHY 3.
    9 points
  26. My home course has closed for the season, rain is in the forecast nearly every day, and that pretty much means I've completed 99 percent of my season. Although I didn't think it would happen, 2021 eclipsed my 2020 round totals: 87 times out to the course, consisting of: 51 18-hole rounds 24 9-hole rounds 4 18-hole scramble events 1 9-hole personal scramble 7 practice outings I ended up being able to play four times a week during the meat of the season, which is responsible for the increase in total outings. Another big thanks to my wife who continues to encourage/put up with my hobby, and who even tagged along for the practice rounds and played a few holes when the weather was nice in June and July. My only regret about the year is that I did not play away from my home course as often as I had originally planned. But, with rising costs of gas and rounds, it didn't make much sense for me to stray away from my already paid membership. I am thankful I was able to get out with @ncwoz last weekend to enjoy one of my favorites in the area, however, and we had great weather to do so. Now, for my goal set back in February a few pages ago: I currently sit with an unofficial, self-calculated WHS handicap of 9.1. Officially, I maintain an 8.4 index through The Grint. I only played a handful of non-solo, attested rounds this season, and most of them were decent scores. At one point my unofficial handicap had dropped into the sevens, which is really good progress for me. I shot 80 or better 23 times out of my 51 18-hole rounds. I didn't quite reach my goal of doing that "most of the time," but got very close. Those rounds include a new career low of even par 72, 73 and 75 twice.
    9 points
  27. I went to the range and hit a large bucket. Who knows if anything will transfer to the course this weekend, it hasn’t lately!!!
    9 points
  28. I was having such a nice practice session until I walked over to the practice green and the s!$@:s popped up out of nowhere with my 59. I eliminating them after a bit with full shots back on the range and the 59 is out, replaced by my SCOR 60. I did monkey with the loft settings on my driver before settling back to what worked at my fitting - 1 lower. Mainly hit random shots once my issue was resolved - sort of a simulated round.
    9 points
  29. One of my better full rounds of the year. Didn't feel like I played overly well to be honest, but didn't make any glaring mistakes. I did have a couple 3 putts, but the greens were just punched so distance control was a bit difficult. Course played a little long today as it was very wet all over the course. I did not think we had gotten that much rain recently so I was a bit surprised by this. Hoping I can get more rounds in this year, but it was nice to come out and play well after a few weeks layoff. Putted well and made a 25 and 30 foot birdie putt as well as several just slide by and nearly go in. Score: 74 (4 biridies and no doubles) FIR - 3 GIR - 11 (2 additional on fringe and putted) Putts - 32
    9 points
  30. We're a bunker away (50 yds) from the green on #1 at our summer Condo/Course - which, BTW is about 300+ yds from the whites - so a long driver would really have to hook the ball to get it into our front yard. The course is privately owned and is part of a larger marina/golf/recreational community owned by the same family - with a long waiting list and homes that generally sell before they hit MLS. So more than likely an unusual situation. While we've only had one ball hit the roof valley of our house in the past 12 months (fixed by the Condo assoc.). At some point someone will hit the house/window - we expect that and are prepared for it. On the other hand the convenience of access is a major benefit. I can't even imagine the number of miles we've put on our golf cart in the past 7 or 8 years. Want to run out in the evening and play 4 or 5 holes? Yep we can do that. Or run to the driving range or practice holes - again just a few minutes by golf cart . Thunderstorm running through? No problem you can run home til it passes through. There is a pretty hefty price difference (30-40%) between the course facing properties and the ones across the street. The obvious benefit of the course view is just that, the down side is the exposure to errant golf balls.. The street side - lower cost, no view and no golf balls. Again we're in a unique situation so like any other mega-purchase lots of research needs to be done. In retrospect the one consideration I would definitely have given is the direction the house faces (in our case we didn't have a choice). We're on a links style course (very few trees) with the majority of the windows facing west - it's gets pretty warm in those rooms - even with the A/C on.
    9 points
  31. Well I ordered a like new set of Callaway Maverik irons. We have several seniors at my golf course playing the Max version and are loving them. I hit a few shots on the range and my eyes lit up like a bass sucking down a june bug. Now I will have two sets of irons to play. I love my Tommy Armour Max irons however it doesn't hurt to have two sets in the stall.
    9 points
  32. Love fall golf: my wife shot her all time low of 87 Sunday, and I was no slouch myself! I took a bogey on 18 for a tidy score of 1 over on the day. Short game was on point all day including going 7/7 on up & down opportunities. Followed that up with a roller coaster round of +2 that included 2 doubles and bogey against 3 birdies. Why does it always take all season to score well? And then it snowed here today…
    9 points
  33. I had off since last Thursday and went tovisit my dad for his 90th birthday. We threw him a great party. The 13 hour drive home yesterday sucked, but the trip was worth it. No Internet at his place and barely cell service. Had some MGS withdrawals. So still having today off I got a round in before going back to work tomorrow. I played well no bogies and back to back birdies on back to back par 5's. Shot a 69. 34 on the front and 35 on the back. Greens were a little slower today. Il have to see if they are keeping them a little longer for fall.
    9 points
  34. I think I like the back 9 at Windmill. Shot a 45/37 82. Back to back birds helped the cause.
    9 points
  35. A nice round today with an epic front 9. 3 birds with 12 putts on the front! ended up with 28 putts and 5 birds, but had a few bad holes on the back that ruined a really good round. no complaints tho… but it was freezing at 50°
    9 points
  36. great range session tonight. i had my wedges bent 2* flat to fight my constant left miss with wedge shots and everything was point and shoot. i was hitting the ball on my number and on my target. after warming up with half a bucket, i decided to “play a round”. i went through the first 15 holes of my home course and my swing felt really free and easy through the whole bag. i pured an 8 iron right at the 175 flag on “15” and called it a day there. i ended with a short driver speed session. 20 all out swings not caring about where the ball went. i’m trying to establish a baseline for this winter’s speed training and possibly a shot at competing in long drive. here’s the best swing of the night. most of the rest were 128+
    9 points
  37. It’s nice wearing shorts 12 months out of the year!! I actually have “winter shorts “. They’re a bit heavier than the normal shorts. SWMBO thinks I’m nuts.
    9 points
  38. ... Finally moving into my house at the end of the month and will have some trees planted. They planted a ton of trees along the streets and entrance so in 10 years it should be pretty shady. I also play courses with plenty of trees like The Raven and Ocotillo that are like a oasis in the desert, literally. I am actually a little surprised at how green it is in Phoenix once you get past the initial shock of all rocks and sand along highways, streets and many subdivisions.
    9 points
  39. Played 18 this Am. Crazy windy day 20-30 mph gusts at times. 43 on the front and 42 on the back. Started off string with 2 pars but couldn’t things going with the wind. I would club and down over the next 7 holes and essentially guess wrong ending up short and long. 42 on the back with a sweet sand shot from 158 yards to 5 feet front the pin for my wonky birdie of the day. Unfortunately I had 4 3 putts and all of them costly and inside of 5 feet, plus I missed a total of 6 putts inside of 5 feet, 2 rattled around the cup and the rest bribing edges. All in all I’m not entirely mad about my round considering the score, I’m actually pleased considering the crazy weather and having a newborn to take care of with my wife. But the putting is irritating…
    9 points
  40. A woman, cranky because her husband was late coming home again, decided to leave a note, saying, “I’ve had enough and have left you. Don’t bother coming after me.” Then she hid under the bed to see his reaction. After a short while, the husband comes home and she could hear him in the kitchen before he comes into the bedroom.She could see him walk towards the dresser and pick up the note. After a few minutes, he wrote something on it before picking up the phone and calling someone. “She’s finally gone…yeah I know, about bloody time, I’m coming to see you, put on that sexy French nightie. I love you…can’t wait to see you…we’ll do all the naughty things you like.” He hung up, grabbed his keys and left. She heard the car drive off as she came out from under the bed.Seething with rage and with tears in her eyes she grabbed the note to see what he wrote… “I can see your feet. We’re outta bread: be back in five minutes.
    8 points
  41. Thanks guys for the support. My business is small, but starting to take off. Feel free to reach out, especially if you are looking for shafts. Derrick, Derek, Eric, its all fine lol.
    8 points
  42. Played in my second tournament today. Shot an 89(Net 88 for handicap purposes) which I'm actually quite pleased with for a several reasons. First, I fought back to get it below 90 (Started the first three holes at +7). Second, I responded to a potential round killing quad by reeling off five straight pars. Third, I did it in a competition setting. The other major positives were that my chipping game is starting to come together (I actually got up and down several times today) and that I'm starting to have real confidence in all aspects of my game. It was another day where I had everything I needed in my bag to get to the low 80s or better I just had a few bad breaks that I made a compounding mistake on the recovery shot. Here's the lowlights where I left many strokes on the table: I opened with a double because I didn't verify that I shot the pin with my rangefinder on approach. I ended up long and in jail. Chip out of jail, chip on, two putt. I had a quad on a par 3. We were playing alternating tee for the par 3s and this one was from the tips -- played about 229 with a reedy swamp all along the right. I blocked my first shot into the reeds and thought, well that's gone. Re-teed and promptly blocked that one further right into no chance land. Now I'm laying 4, hitting 5. I changed to a club I'm more confident with and play my 5th shot to 30 yards short chip up and 1 putt for a crowd pleasing 7. Here's the killer, though, the hazard is U-shaped. It runs right up to and in front of the back tees then slopes rightward before changing directions and sloping leftward back toward the green. As I'm walking up to my 3rd ball to hit my sixth shot I see a ball and immediately know, then confirm, that it's my first ball that had squirted through the reeds into the open area. That was a hard lesson. If I had just taken a few moments to walk to the other side of the reeds I would have been hitting my second from 175 and would probably have walked away with no worse than a bogie. The other big number triple I took a line over trees (A line that I always take and is pretty forgiving once you realize you can make the shot). I virtually never have trouble with clearing the line, but this time I had the misfortune of hitting one of two palm trees that stick out above the treeline -- dead center. It dropped straight down in a decent lie and I still had a shot to the green from about 210. The only iffy part about it was that the ball was above my feet. So I aimed a little further right, took the shot, and promptly sliced it to behind a tree. Once chip out, one chip on(to the fringe), a bad lag from the fringe, and a lipped out six footer later I have another 7 on the card. Cleaning up those three holes + the other double each gets me to 82. (Good enough in my flight for third place gross and first place net) Other positives: Off the tee was pretty great. Most of the misses were just off the fairway Zero skulled pitches and chips all day. I wasn't as close as I would have liked, but I was on with a reasonable make chance. 8 Pars, including 5 straight after the quad 29 Total Putts No strokes given away on the par 5s. Par on all of the Par 5's. Almost hit for the cycle... if I could have found a birdie. Most cards probably don't contain a birdie, par, bogie, double, triple, quad. I feel like I'm right on the edge of breaking through if I can tie it all together.
    8 points
  43. Well, now that I live in a snowy area I didn't want to go 4-5 months without any golf. So I was able to convince my wife that adding a Golf Sim to our bonus room was an excellent plan. I'll surely put a picture here or there. I'll probably start a thread just to keep everything in 1 spot too.
    8 points
  44. Been pretty quiet past few weeks checking in here and there. Some family stuff happening I referenced earlier (extended family) and have been pretty mentally drained. Makes you appreciate golf, I have not been out in several weeks and wanted to this week but work took hold. I have said it before, golf is 100% my escape from a lot of things, very much looking forward to getting out soon, its needed.
    8 points
  45. Don't pick on my lack of feet. Let me show you what I got on my trip to the Netherlands. Figured these cool wooden shoes would help me in shallow water.
    8 points
  46. Went to the short game practice area to work on my pitches again. Overall went pretty well; contact and distance control were both pretty good. Only problem was I hit into a yellow ball family reunion. I apologized and asked if they knew @Yellow Ball They all got pretty quiet when I mentioned him so I just dropped the subject. When I was leaving I got stopped by Bob; I am terrible with names and I think he said it was Bob. Anyway Bob said that that are all a little hesitant to talk about @Yellow Ball since he skips all the family events and seems to like hanging out with MGS people more. I heard some great stories from Bob, he was up from Augusta and lives in the pond on the 16th at Augusta National. He said it favorite time of the year was the Masters when the players skip balls across the pond, He just has to keep his head down. Bob also said while the group as a whole has a couple of Vice's, @Yellow Ball had a good looking cover, but if you looked at the core he was a little off center.
    8 points
  47. It's really hard to put into words how much I enjoy this time of year more than any other season. I'm glad to hear others share the sentiment. Enjoy what's left of this nice fall.
    8 points
  48. But, if you ever change your mind (and one might after seeing rock and sand forever), it's only a 2 hour drive to Prescott Sierra Vista, etc., where you can enjoy a winter beverage and watch someone else shovel. We just finished the driveway, front and back decks - which has done nothing but re-affirmed our quickly approaching departure date .
    8 points
  49. I think it is definitely a @Yellow Ballkind of day.
    8 points
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