minnmdz Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I have always putted with my eyes directly over the ball. In fact, my putter has lines to help you do so, but I recently watched a you tube video where they made a compelling argument that your eyes should NOT be directly over the ball. What do you think? Eyes directly over the ball for putting or not? Shapotomous 1 Quote MN Hacker just trying to improve 1 stroke at a time. Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Every lesson I’ve taking for putting has been about keeping eyes just inside the ball. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
ChitownM2 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I try to have my eyes directly over the ball, but I've also seen numerous articles, videos, etc that come out on both sides. The conclusion I've come to boils down to whether or not you can re-train your eyes to accurately determine what a "straight" putt is. Apparently some people look at a 20 ft putt and see the hole either left or right of where it really is when they are standing over the ball. If you are one of those people, you need to either re-train your brain about what is really straight (which sounds really difficult to do) or you need to adjust your position over the ball to compensate (ie. move your eyes inside or outside the ball) Shapotomous and Kansas King 2 Quote Link to comment
TR1PTIK Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 IMO it really just depends, but as long as you can get the ball in the hole reasonably well who cares? I will say that I have experienced a difference based on length of putter. I semi-recently switched from a 33" putter to a 34". With the 33", I found that eyes over the ball produced the best results, and now with the 34" I'm retraining myself to keep the eyes just inside as this position produces the best contact. As @ChitownM2 mentioned above, not everyone sees a "straight" putt the same. While I don't agree with everything in his book, Dr. Craig Farnsworth lays this out pretty clearly and provides some simple ways to determine what might work best for you (https://www.amazon.com/Putting-Prescription-Doctors-Proven-Method/dp/0470371013/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2U5GASJX6FBY&dchild=1&keywords=putting+prescription&qid=1628109705&sprefix=putting+pre%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-2). Shapotomous and Kansas King 2 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment
ChitownM2 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 This article does a good job of explaining how to check whether you see "straight" correctly. https://p2grips.com/improve-your-putting-accuracy/ Shapotomous 1 Quote Link to comment
M. Parsons Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I used to always putt with my eyes over the ball, but after watching many videos, I've learned to keep my eyes slightly inside and behind the ball. Mike Malaska has a great video on this...I think it's with Be Better Golf Shapotomous 1 Quote In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment
CarlH Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I try to setup with my eyes just inside the ball's center Shapotomous 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
Tyler86 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I set up so my line looks right. Eyes end up inside at least a little. Putting is better than when I was setting up over the ball. Shapotomous 1 Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment
Kenny B Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I set up with my eyes over the ball, but that's just for proper positioning of my stance. I don't look at the ball when I putt. Shapotomous, TR1PTIK, Haro and 1 other 4 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
Kansas King Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I like eyes over the ball for alignment purposes but it will be different for everyone. Being able to look down the line and be confident in where you are aiming while standing over the ball is important. Logic says eyes over would be the best but it will be different for everyone just like everything else in golf. Just do what works and is comfortable for you. Something that can really help determine what is best is to stand somewhere you can set up with a putter and have a long straight line to line up to. You can set up a laser or string on a green or just use any straight line anywhere even if it's a straight painted line in a parking lot. Setting up on that line and figuring out where you are looking and what a true right angle is to your square alignment can significantly help with putting. Try to find a way to do this before every round because the way the brain sees things tends to change a little day to day and setting up square to a long straight line before you play tends to help square up your perception before playing. TR1PTIK, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and Shapotomous 3 Quote Link to comment
golfinnut Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 These are my thoughts on it If you have a more straight back, straight thru stroke .... you use a mallet putter so you're standing more over the ball at address = eyes directly over the ball. If you have a slight arc in your stroke, open the door & close the door type of stroke ... you use a blade putter = eyes are more inside & behind the ball. (this is me) It just depends on what works for you. Try it both ways, see which is more consistent. Your eyes may be fooling you, how you see the hole & the break. Shapotomous 1 Quote WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM9 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment
jaywelby34 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Putting is so so personal. What grip, what stance, where are our eyes???? So many thoughts. The only tip that has ever helped me was the one Gary Player gave his grandson, keep your head still through the stroke. Shapotomous 1 Quote Manhattan, KS Ping G30 Driver 9.5 degrees Taylor Made RBZ Black 3 wood Nike Vapor 3 Hybrid Sub70 699 Pro Irons 4-PW (KBS Tour 120 Stiff) Taylor Made ATV 58 and 52 wedges Tour Edge 56 Sand Wedge Odyssey White Hot #9 Putter No official handicap but about 18. Link to comment
Haro Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Im eyes inside the ball dude especially for long putts. I used a long putter the past and you really can’t have eyes over the ball with belly putter. There’s an arc to my putting with short putter. When I get closer say inside 6 feet I’m more SBST and like have my eyes closer to the ball. I have no idea if my eyes are over the ball though Shapotomous 1 Quote Link to comment
Headhammer Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I've use the putting mirror to get my eyes over the ball and to 'TRY" to keep my head still. Eyes over the ball or just inside is personal preference, but one thing is certain, a quick peek at the ball after the stroke rarely leads to the result you want. Shapotomous 1 Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment
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