AAHead7 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Just received the tour BXS in the mail today. I had forgot about this, so it was a pleasant surprise. In first glance the colors for mindset definitely pop out. The coating seems more glossy than a Pro V1X or a Chrome Tour X, which are the main balls I have played this year. I am playing 18 tomorrow so it was great timing, will give these balls a try and share my thoughts. buckpillar, Erin B, Preeway and 5 others 8 Quote Aaron Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2024 at 9:44 PM, Rob Person said: .. and adding not one extra thought, but THREE will be where I may stumble and fumble. The way I look at it is you're not adding swing thoughts - instead you're working on a new process of three discrete steps that follow each other sequentially .. not three things to do all at once... Good luck!! Northern Monkey, rkj427, Erin B and 5 others 7 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H .. Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: The way I look at it is you're not adding swing thoughts - instead you're working on a new process of three discrete steps that follow each other sequentially .. not three things to do all at once... Good luck!! Agree with this . I’ll be adding more detail to this after I get my ball delivery but I see this as formalizing three aspects that should already exist in some form. The mindset component to me is just another way to phrase what I currently do. buckpillar, cksurfdude, zoomaster and 2 others 3 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckpillar Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/5/2024 at 9:45 PM, Rob Person said: A funny thought occurred to me as well. Picture it, I am on the tee box, friends are watching me, I am just staring at the ball. I start mumbling about the colors, trying to create a focus. People are waiting behind us... someone yells "just hit the ball already" I turn and reply " give me a moment, I'm trying to Be the Ball, dammnit!" ... and then I have to start all over. Got to watch staring at the ball, because it does look back! Rob Person, zoomaster, cksurfdude and 1 other 1 3 Quote Jeff "PUTSO" Pillar [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckpillar Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, rileybanez said: Hello everyone. My name is Riley and I’ve been selected to test the new mindset balls! I’m a big mindset and meditation guy so I’m be excited to take this into the bag and see how I perform with it. I’ve been playing golf for about 3 years now and getting into tournament play this year. So I’ve been more motivated to compete and push my limits in golf. I consider myself as an athlete who’s taken part of a lot of different competitions and hoping this ball can help me settle in the golf game a bit more. I have a lot of issues right now off the tee and course management so this will be the perfect ball for me to use and give you guys real committed feedback. I am currently using the ProV1X. With more of an emphasis in green side spin for my wedge shots. The spin for driver doesn’t matter as much to me as feeling a spiny wedge shot. Welcome, cant wait to read your review for the testing. William P, zoomaster, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Jeff "PUTSO" Pillar [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, AAHead7 said: Just received the tour BXS in the mail today. I had forgot about this, so it was a pleasant surprise. In first glance the colors for mindset definitely pop out. The coating seems more glossy than a Pro V1X or a Chrome Tour X, which are the main balls I have played this year. I am playing 18 tomorrow so it was great timing, will give these balls a try and share my thoughts. Welcome to MGS, and welcome to your first official testing opportunity! 59 minutes ago, buckpillar said: Got to watch staring at the ball, because it does look back! That is exactly what happened when I opened the box cksurfdude, buckpillar and Northern Monkey 3 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy_Oz Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 For anyone hesitating to cut up one of their dozen Tour BX, I’ve done it for you. Ha ha. below photo shows the prior generation Tour BX on the left alongside the latest update. core and mantle layers seem pretty consistent on a sample of one ball. Preeway, William P, IndyBonzo and 6 others 5 4 Quote 2024 WITB: G430 LST 9* w. Mitsubishi Kai'Li White 60X TSR2 15* w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X Stealth+ 3H (@18*) w. Hzrdus Smoke RDX Red 80/6.5 TSR2 21* 7-wood w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X 5i-9i: '19 P790; P- '23 P7MC w. Tour C-Taper Lite 115X 50/09 MG3; 56/12 MG3TW SM9 60/04L Putter- Toulon Design Memphis, 2019 model [Backup: Sik DW C 2.0] Ball: TP5x/ TP5xPix ; Chrome Tour [see ball test link below] (also testing Tour BX Mindset) Other: . Gogogo Sport V-Pro rangefinder. Select Plus stand bag. Nitron push cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buckpillar Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, buckpillar said: Got to watch staring at the ball, because it does look back! Hey @Rob Person told you they look back fozcycle, Indy_Oz, RDel90 and 11 others 1 1 12 Quote Jeff "PUTSO" Pillar [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, buckpillar said: Hey @Rob Person told you they look back Only missing a red balloon . Don't worry, I've got the gutter part handled... Big moose, IndyBonzo, Northern Monkey and 2 others 1 4 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buckpillar Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 Thank you MGS and Bridgestone for another great opportunity to review these balls and Congratulations to the testers. Can't wait to see what your testing results will be. I got a surprise I forgot about even signing up for, but the Bridgestone RX balls came in the mail today. The unboxing is below and will start an unofficial review with a salt water CG test and what I think of them out the box.... and progress from there. Just forgot to say.. The ball always looks back! JAYER38, CFreddie, Javs and 7 others 5 3 2 Quote Jeff "PUTSO" Pillar [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael.Sandoval33 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) I don't think I'll be receiving a box so I will live vicariously through you all. Have fun! I was going to buy a box today but I decided to wait and see what you guys think! Edited April 7 by Michael.Sandoval33 buckpillar, IndyBonzo, Rob Person and 2 others 5 Quote WITB Driver: Qi10 Max Hybrid: FX Max 5h 5i-9i: FX Max 10 Wedges: 48°, 52°, 56° Putter: HB Soft 14 Ball: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Threads have been merged. buckpillar, cksurfdude, Rob Person and 4 others 3 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Questions for the testers: - Are you using the circles for aligning any shots (tee shots or putts)? - Any issues with lining up putts since the markings are round? - Any concerns with not having the focus circles for approach shots/chips? cksurfdude, JackBurtonsPorkchopExpress, buckpillar and 2 others 5 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomaster Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, TJ Hall said: Questions for the testers: - Are you using the circles for aligning any shots (tee shots or putts)? - Any issues with lining up putts since the markings are round? - Any concerns with not having the focus circles for approach shots/chips? Not using it as an alignment aid… cksurfdude, JEFF1, IndyBonzo and 2 others 3 2 Quote ZenMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF1 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I wonder how many balls I will find staring at me when I go ball hawking? CFreddie, cksurfdude, IndyBonzo and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I just got my golf balls yesterday in the mail. Looking forward to trying them out Tuesday when I play next. I got the RXS. I normally play Callaway Chrome Soft or Callaway Chrome Tour. I’m looking forward to seeing how they compare to other balls. buckpillar, IndyBonzo, Michael.Sandoval33 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Big Bertha 3 wood: XR Hybrid 3, 4, 5, 7 XR Irons: 6-PW XR Wedges: 52 Jaws, 56 Mack Daddy 3 Putter: Stroke Lab 7s Ball: Chrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBurtonsPorkchopExpress Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Balls arrived yesterday and totally forgot I signed up. I had to explain to the wife citing specific evidence that I indeed did not pay for these. Looking forward to putting these up against my usual Maxfli Tour X. unccross, William P, cksurfdude and 6 others 5 4 Quote Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple_Putt Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Look what beauties arrived…. Just as I’ve got tee times for Wednesday and Thursday morning…. CFreddie, William P, Rob Person and 3 others 6 Quote Super Burner 2.0 10.5* Fly-Z hybrid SMS 4-GW i3 5 Wood SM7 56*,60*, SM8 52* Versa 1 putter 2023 Tested: Edel SMS Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, zoomaster said: Not using it as an alignment aid… Interesting comment - how do you plan to use the mindset visual? IndyBonzo and cksurfdude 2 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel09152 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 My balls showed up yesterday! Really looking forward to using these! @Rob Personthese were the test ones we got directly from Bridgestone without the logo during the summer right? as a sampler, I will try to keep this simple, and say this should be fun. While I got to play the “prototype” form Bridgestone this earlier this year I am excited to use the one with the Mindset Logo on them! Hopefully this will slow me down and make me prepare as advertised lol over all love this packaging, love the insert, and love the idea behind the stamp! Hopefully it will indeed live up to what it claims! IndyBonzo, cksurfdude, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Samuel Hanvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomaster Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, CFreddie said: Interesting comment - how do you plan to use the mindset visual? I have come to the conclusion after rewatching the videos that the graphic is meant to be a reminder about the pe-shot process…pick a target (Harvey Penick), visualize the shot (Nicklaus), and focus (Zen). I putted using it as an alignment aid and it was not helpful to me. Then again my routine does not use practice swings while standing at the ball. I also don’t line up my ball to putt…and no putting practice stroke. I didn’t pick up anywhere in the Mindset videos to use it as an alignment aid….I believe it’s a natural, but erroneous, conclusion we made about the graphic when seeing the “arrow” protruding from the first circle. It’s should remind us all to have a confident, consistent pre-shot routine. Rob Person, fozcycle, CFreddie and 3 others 5 1 Quote ZenMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomaster Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 17 hours ago, buckpillar said: Welcome, cant wait to read your review for the testing. 17 hours ago, buckpillar said: Welcome, cant wait to read your review for the testing. Riley….love to hear your Zen focused take on the graphics purpose. cksurfdude, IndyBonzo and Rob Person 3 Quote ZenMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 47 minutes ago, zoomaster said: I have come to the conclusion after rewatching the videos that the graphic is meant to be a reminder about the pe-shot process…pick a target (Harvey Penick), visualize the shot (Nicklaus), and focus (Zen). I putted using it as an alignment aid and it was not helpful to me. Then again my routine does not use practice swings while standing at the ball. I also don’t line up my ball to putt…and no putting practice stroke. I didn’t pick up anywhere in the Mindset videos to use it as an alignment aid….I believe it’s a natural, but erroneous, conclusion we made about the graphic when seeing the “arrow” protruding from the first circle. It’s should remind us all to have a confident, consistent pre-shot routine. Good stuff - thanks for sharing @zoomaster. Need to pick up a dozen of these to try myself. cksurfdude, IndyBonzo and Rob Person 3 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomaster Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 19 hours ago, cksurfdude said: The way I look at it is you're not adding swing thoughts - instead you're working on a new process of three discrete steps that follow each other sequentially .. not three things to do all at once... Good luck!! Spot on… @cksurfdude the graphic is reminder to have a focused pre-shot routine cksurfdude, Rob Person and IndyBonzo 3 Quote ZenMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 On 4/6/2024 at 6:03 PM, Rob Person said: Another weird thing was they each have several numbers and letters, which I am guessing is from batch/lot numbers, plant I'd, etc. They could be a batch/plant number, but I think it's more likely to be an identifier for the specific mold and cavity the balls was manufactured from. That way, if there is a defect, they can trace it to a specific mold and cavity and correct the problem. cksurfdude, IndyBonzo and Rob Person 3 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie 2022 MGS Tester: Shot Scope Pro XL+ with H4 2023 MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acatalano32 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Let the testing begin!!! I have played Bridgestone balls on and off for a while now. I used to play the e6 when I was in highshool but that was probably because of price lol. I find myself going back and forth between golf balls. I currently play the AVX (I do not like the ball but I have had my best rounds with it) putting around with the mindset ball, I do like the feel. It’s not clicky and it’s not overly soft. Excited to get this ball on the course Rob Person, unccross, IndyBonzo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickM71 Posted April 8 Popular Post Share Posted April 8 I hit a bunch of 7 irons (30 degree, Cobra Forged Tec 2018) in my basement sim setup with a Foresight GC3. I was sent the Bridgestone RXS which are meant for people with swing speed under 105 and wanting extra spin compared to the RX. During the same session, I hit multiple shots with other balls to compare feel and numbers. I'm not a robot, so I had to discard major mishits. With each of the balls compared, my swing speed on the 7 iron was between 85 and 87 mph. I've attached a screen capture of the spreadsheet with the detailed numbers for each ball, but I'll summarize my thoughts here. Hitting on the range in my sim, I didn't take advantage of the Mindset feature much. I did a few trials of picturing my shot shape, then going through my pre-swing thoughts I've been focusing on, then just focusing on the green dot. I am working on various aspects of my swing and trying to figure out how steady I should be keeping my head as I'm shifting weight at various parts of my swing. I do find that the more still I keep my head throughout the swing, the more consistent my contact is. So when I would make a concerted effort to keep my head still and focused on the green dot, I do think I had more consistent contact. I also realized that I never really had a clear point of focus when I'm swinging, which in hindsight seems a bit weird. I sort of was looking just past the ball and zoned out from where I was looking during the swing. Also, obviously, you can only place the Mindset image where you want when you are hitting off the tee or putting. For any other shots, the green dot is unlikely to be where you would want. Hitting indoors, I have the luxury of being able to place the image where I wanted. I did assume that the intent is to place it on top and point the arrow at your target line. I haven't tried putting with it yet. Focusing on the green dot may be one way to make sure I'm looking in the same place when swinging. I can see potential benefits, and no downside to doing so. I plan to do more practice with this focus on the green dot and will see how it works. It is a bit weird to do at first. I also think that a reminder, as well as making a the 3 step process a focal point for golfers, is a good thing in itself. I know that there is good data that a consistent pre-shot routine is common amongst all top golfers. Not only the pre-shot analysis, but then the time top golfers spend from when they approach the ball to swing is extremely consistent. This in itself is a skill I can improve with far less effort than the technical aspects of a solid swing. Next, as far as feel, the RXS is supposed to be a very soft feeling ball. It has a low compression (around 65 - but I haven't tested the compression on the ones I received yet). I'm realizing that soft "feel" is very subjective. To me, compression alone does not seem to be the only factor in how soft a ball feels. I'm sure I'm not the first one to notice some balls feel softer or harder in spite of their compression. I think there is a different feel between a low compression soft and something about the cover thickness that affects the feel and sound. As far as these RXS balls off the 7 iron, I'd say they did not feel "clicky" as some balls do, but they also didn't feel mushy. I find that hitting in my basement, I prefer the mushiest feeling balls I can find, as they bother my joints less. The Kirkland 3 piece V2 seem the mushiest to me. I'd say to me, these felt more similar to a Pro V1 than to the Kirkland V2, in spite of the compression being much lower. I'd say it also isn't much different from the 2 piece surlyn Wilson Duo which also has a very low compression. This was just with the 7 iron, so I'll have more data when I do the driver and wedges, which I plan to test soon. As for the ball data, robot testing probably has much more reliable data. I understand this wasn't the main purpose of testing these balls, but since I have a GC3 and I love data, I organized it here. The balls I hit today included the Bridgestone RXS, Titleist Pro V1 (main ball I use on course on the rare occasions I get to play real golf), Taylormade TP5 and TP5x, Wilson Duo, and Kirkland 3 piece V2. I never really noticed before, but there seems to be a correlation that the higher spinning balls initially launch lower. I assume they will then spin higher and dimple patterns likely have an impact, which the GC3 numbers won't account for. The spin for the Bridgestone was on the lower side off the 7 iron, but the ball speed was the best today, and the initial launch was a bit higher. Overall, this led to slightly longer distance but similar roll out. I'm not sure how the formatting will turn out, but here's the numbers most relevant, and additional data is included in the attached image. If anyone has a preference for me to repeat the testing with driver or wedges first, let me know. I'm most interested in seeing how the spin numbers compare off wedges. My driver swing is also likely to generate far less consistent numbers between shots. IndyBonzo, Rob Person, CFreddie and 7 others 4 6 Quote Rick Callaway Ai Smoke Triple Diamond, Mizuno JPX 923 Forged irons (5-Gap), Cleveland wedges (52, 56), Odyssey 2 ball putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Great writeup @RickM71 - can def see how the visual on the ball can be a bit different on first glance. Curious to see how you use it (or ignore it) over time. Rob Person, IndyBonzo, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtdusoleil Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) UPDATE: I played a 2nd round of 9 with these yesterday and I am liking these balls quite a lot. As I'd mentioned, they are very similar to the Mafli I already play and they definitely perform as well. They feel really nice off the tee, in particular. I continue to like the visual on the ball more than a regular line. I feel very confident over my putts and was really putting well. For some reason, I started visualizing the putt line, which I had never done before. I also hit 6 out of 7 fairways, lining up my shots with the graphic. And at least once, the graphic made me take a step back and analyze my shot, when I had just gone up and started my setup. For the golfer who wants to be more mindful, these are just another tool in the bag to help. ORIGINAL POST: I just played my first round with the B RX Mindset. As far as the ball itself goes, I like it. It's very much like the Maxfli I use. Similar compression and feel, so in that way I like it. Felt good off the tee and I liked it around the greens. As far as the Mindset graphic goes... I like the fact that it's different than anything else. That's just something I enjoy. I'm also very much into the mental game and something I know makes me play better is when I take all the steps this graphic is meant to istill. Do I do it every time? No. So, it is nice to have a visual reminder to take those steps. Obviously, off the tee and on the green, it is more useful because I can make sure I see that. I also use the line on the ball to line up my drives and putts. Particularly on putts, I like that I can is the arrows but it's not as rigid as a line. So, I can focus on the dot in a more organic way and just make my stroke than being so focused on the line. Overall, I'm definitely interested to continue trying this out and see how it goes. Edited April 9 by curtdusoleil unccross, cksurfdude, RickM71 and 4 others 7 Quote Proud lefty Mizuno JPX-921 irons (6-PW) | Ping G425 5-hybrid | Ping G425 Max Driver, Ping G425 3, 5 & 7 woods Lazarus Wedges (52, 56, 60) | Scotty Cameron Futura X putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickM71 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, RickM71 said: I hit a bunch of 7 irons (30 degree, Cobra Forged Tec 2018) in my basement sim setup with a Foresight GC3. I was sent the Bridgestone RXS which are meant for people with swing speed under 105 and wanting extra spin compared to the RX. During the same session, I hit multiple shots with other balls to compare feel and numbers. I'm not a robot, so I had to discard major mishits. With each of the balls compared, my swing speed on the 7 iron was between 85 and 87 mph. I've attached a screen capture of the spreadsheet with the detailed numbers for each ball, but I'll summarize my thoughts here. Hitting on the range in my sim, I didn't take advantage of the Mindset feature much. I did a few trials of picturing my shot shape, then going through my pre-swing thoughts I've been focusing on, then just focusing on the green dot. I am working on various aspects of my swing and trying to figure out how steady I should be keeping my head as I'm shifting weight at various parts of my swing. I do find that the more still I keep my head throughout the swing, the more consistent my contact is. So when I would make a concerted effort to keep my head still and focused on the green dot, I do think I had more consistent contact. I also realized that I never really had a clear point of focus when I'm swinging, which in hindsight seems a bit weird. I sort of was looking just past the ball and zoned out from where I was looking during the swing. Also, obviously, you can only place the Mindset image where you want when you are hitting off the tee or putting. For any other shots, the green dot is unlikely to be where you would want. Hitting indoors, I have the luxury of being able to place the image where I wanted. I did assume that the intent is to place it on top and point the arrow at your target line. I haven't tried putting with it yet. Focusing on the green dot may be one way to make sure I'm looking in the same place when swinging. I can see potential benefits, and no downside to doing so. I plan to do more practice with this focus on the green dot and will see how it works. It is a bit weird to do at first. I also think that a reminder, as well as making a the 3 step process a focal point for golfers, is a good thing in itself. I know that there is good data that a consistent pre-shot routine is common amongst all top golfers. Not only the pre-shot analysis, but then the time top golfers spend from when they approach the ball to swing is extremely consistent. This in itself is a skill I can improve with far less effort than the technical aspects of a solid swing. Next, as far as feel, the RXS is supposed to be a very soft feeling ball. It has a low compression (around 65 - but I haven't tested the compression on the ones I received yet). I'm realizing that soft "feel" is very subjective. To me, compression alone does not seem to be the only factor in how soft a ball feels. I'm sure I'm not the first one to notice some balls feel softer or harder in spite of their compression. I think there is a different feel between a low compression soft and something about the cover thickness that affects the feel and sound. As far as these RXS balls off the 7 iron, I'd say they did not feel "clicky" as some balls do, but they also didn't feel mushy. I find that hitting in my basement, I prefer the mushiest feeling balls I can find, as they bother my joints less. The Kirkland 3 piece V2 seem the mushiest to me. I'd say to me, these felt more similar to a Pro V1 than to the Kirkland V2, in spite of the compression being much lower. I'd say it also isn't much different from the 2 piece surlyn Wilson Duo which also has a very low compression. This was just with the 7 iron, so I'll have more data when I do the driver and wedges, which I plan to test soon. As for the ball data, robot testing probably has much more reliable data. I understand this wasn't the main purpose of testing these balls, but since I have a GC3 and I love data, I organized it here. The balls I hit today included the Bridgestone RXS, Titleist Pro V1 (main ball I use on course on the rare occasions I get to play real golf), Taylormade TP5 and TP5x, Wilson Duo, and Kirkland 3 piece V2. I never really noticed before, but there seems to be a correlation that the higher spinning balls initially launch lower. I assume they will then spin higher and dimple patterns likely have an impact, which the GC3 numbers won't account for. The spin for the Bridgestone was on the lower side off the 7 iron, but the ball speed was the best today, and the initial launch was a bit higher. Overall, this led to slightly longer distance but similar roll out. I'm not sure how the formatting will turn out, but here's the numbers most relevant, and additional data is included in the attached image. If anyone has a preference for me to repeat the testing with driver or wedges first, let me know. I'm most interested in seeing how the spin numbers compare off wedges. My driver swing is also likely to generate far less consistent numbers between shots. I did the same comparison with wedges, swinging between 77-79 mph. I was hitting everything left, but the dispersion was pretty good for each of the balls. The RXS had 2nd best ball speed off the wedge. Even though the rxs is supposed to be the higher spin ball, the spin was still less than all other urethane balls I tested. Feel wise off the wedge, I'd say the urethane balls all felt fairly similar. Interestingly, the Wilson Duo (not urethane and 2 piece low compression ball) felt much more mushy / soft off the wedge. It didn't seem as noticeable to me off the 7 iron. It also was the only ball to launch above my impact screen consistently, with dramatically less spin. I'm not sure when I'll have time to test driver. Rob Person, MIGregB, JAYER38 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Rick Callaway Ai Smoke Triple Diamond, Mizuno JPX 923 Forged irons (5-Gap), Cleveland wedges (52, 56), Odyssey 2 ball putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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