Graphite Design Tour AD Shafts - 2024 Forum Review

[HikingMike]

3 hours ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

2 terrible swings and a driven green are the only blemishes when it comes fairways hit 11/14 FIR is a great feeling and most may consider the green a fairway hit.

Come on now. You don't take off a fairway for that.

[WaffleHouseTour]

First test - 

Again, I’m comparing the Hzrdous Black, stiff, low launch, low spin as my current gamer with the GD Tour AD UB Regular/Stiff, medium launch low spin.

First impression - it feels whippy.  I’ll try to get some video making the comparison.  It should be.  It’s a step down in flex from a stiff to a regular/stiff.  
 

My goal was to get 12 or 15 shots from each shaft.  I’d hit three, switch shafts and hit three from the other club. So continuously alternating. 
 

Well, Mother Nature and my Mevo+ aren’t getting along right now. It’s hot.  Heat index warning hot. After only 20 shots the Mevo+ melted down.  Quit recording shots.  So, incomplete test, but this is just day one. 

The blue are the Graphite Design UB; the green are the Hzrdous.  Again, it’s not a lot of shots but the GD UB is just a little longer and a little tighter. Interestingly my misses were off to the left today. i think that has more to do with the archer rather than either the bow or the arrow…

 

Now here is where it got really interesting.  The Graphite Design launched on average a little bit lower than the Hzrdous. It should have launched higher, and that’s the goal. It also spun more.  Not what I want.  Yet despite or because it’s half an inch longer the smash factor was a tad better.

 

Again, it’s a limited sample size and first effort. I’ll take any suggestions on a better methodology. 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

49 minutes ago, HikingMike said:

Come on now. You don't take off a fairway for that.

As I said some count it but today I chose not to.  Makes for a good talking point

[GolfSpy_BNG]

42 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

First test - 

Again, I’m comparing the Hzrdous Black, stiff, low launch, low spin as my current gamer with the GD Tour AD UB Regular/Stiff, medium launch low spin.

First impression - it feels whippy.  I’ll try to get some video making the comparison.  It should be.  It’s a step down in flex from a stiff to a regular/stiff.  
 

My goal was to get 12 or 15 shots from each shaft.  I’d hit three, switch shafts and hit three from the other club. So continuously alternating. 
 

Well, Mother Nature and my Mevo+ aren’t getting along right now. It’s hot.  Heat index warning hot. After only 20 shots the Mevo+ melted down.  Quit recording shots.  So, incomplete test, but this is just day one. 

The blue are the Graphite Design UB; the green are the Hzrdous.  Again, it’s not a lot of shots but the GD UB is just a little longer and a little tighter. Interestingly my misses were off to the left today. i think that has more to do with the archer rather than either the bow or the arrow…

 

Now here is where it got really interesting.  The Graphite Design launched on average a little bit lower than the Hzrdous. It should have launched higher, and that’s the goal. It also spun more.  Not what I want.  Yet despite or because it’s half an inch longer the smash factor was a tad better.

 

Again, it’s a limited sample size and first effort. I’ll take any suggestions on a better methodology. 

I’d say the fact that the Hazrdus Black is stiffer by design as well as the UB at S/R  and it only being 200ish rpms more is neat to see.  I’d wager even at both being stiff the UB will launch and spin higher.  Hzrdus Black is a beast of a shaft

[Josh Parker]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

That’s for sure. I don’t know if I mentioned it here or our slack channel but there is zero head twisting even with a toe strike. 
 

I went back over the Mevo plus data I posted yesterday from the first tee warm up. No range just set the Mevo and swing. I removed the first 2 swings as one was a bad pull and the other an open face to compensate.   7 shots kept with zero warm up and a 10 yard dispersion 

 

I did find this from January. Not apples to apples but still some stats none the less

Pretty incredible stats for sure!  

[WaffleHouseTour]

Test sample two…

I waited until the temps dropped a bit - though the Mevo did stop recording again so this time I just turned it off for ten minutes without moving it to let it cool down and for me to hydrate. 
 

this time the Graphite Design shots are in pink (?) and the Hzrdous are in turquoise (?). I wish FlightScope would let you pick your own colors, but there are several things I wish the FSGolf app would do…. 

 

I got tired, and admittedly a little sloppy at the end.  Left everything in because that cam happen on holes 17 and 18…

The Graphite Design… for a mid trajectory launch, I’m still going lower than the low launch Hzrdous.  Surprised by that. But at half an inch longer I’m glad to find the center (mostly) of the club face.  Averaging 93mph club speed I’m right in the range for this shaft, if on the low side.

The Hzrdous Black…. A little less spin, a little less Smash, a little higher launch  

 

Edited July 15 by WaffleHouseTour

[DukeStKing]

I just updated my review with "Unboxing, Build Complete, and First Impression" 

[Alan Stewart]

I updated my unboxing and first impressions post and appended the report into my original post.

More than satisfied so far and looking forward to my first round.

[WaffleHouseTour]

On 7/2/2024 at 1:29 AM, Alan Stewart said:

I also got into a Trackman bay for about an hour to find what adapter settings were going to work best with the Tour AD UB and also to gather some initial data for comparison.  I run the HZRDUS Blue at 9 degrees and regular lie and started there with the Tour AD UB.  I found the height of the Tour AD UB was much greater, so I turned it down to 8 degrees and kept the regular lie to get the flight down to a more comfortable range.

 

So we both play low launch Hzrdus shafts (blue and black) and are both trying the UB albeit in different flexes.  You are launching yours higher than the Hzrdus, and I'm launching mine lower.  I'm averaging only 80 feet in height - I've never hit it over 100... I'm averaging a pretty flat impact, sometime up to plus 2, to down 2 - but largely plus or minus 1.

This will be interesting.   You're trying to lower your launch with same shaft and I'm trying to get mine up...

[Flerric]

On 7/14/2024 at 9:16 AM, GolfSpy_BNG said:

Got out again this morning at first light to stay out of the heat.  I gotta say it may just be the honeymoon period but the TD Max/VF almost feels like cheating. 
 

2 terrible swings and a driven green are the only blemishes when it comes fairways hit 11/14 FIR is a great feeling and most may consider the green a fairway hit. Had 2 of what I like to call piss missles.

1st a 316 uphill the whole way par 4 just barely short of another eagle putt!

 

2nd and no this isn’t the same photo but it is the same hole as yesterday lol

Love hitting “Piss Missles!” 
 

I’ve been eyeing this VF for some time! 

[Alan Stewart]

11 hours ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

So we both play low launch Hzrdus shafts (blue and black) and are both trying the UB albeit in different flexes.  You are launching yours higher than the Hzrdus, and I'm launching mine lower.  I'm averaging only 80 feet in height - I've never hit it over 100... I'm averaging a pretty flat impact, sometime up to plus 2, to down 2 - but largely plus or minus 1.

This will be interesting.   You're trying to lower your launch with same shaft and I'm trying to get mine up...

Ain't golf a wonderful game? Just when you think you have it figured out...

In the real world off grass and a lower tee height, I was probably in the 80 to 100 foot height range. 

I am playing 18 tomorrow morning and will report back the real world experience

[pete1276]

I've updated my review with First impressions, numbers and on course Arccos data for the first few rounds with my Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7-X (a.k.a Izzy). 

The on course data is a bit skewed for the first few rounds since we've gotten so much rain in the past few days.  We're getting almost no rollout on our drives.  It looks like there is drier weather on the horizon though so that should help stabilize things a bit.  

I am also not striking the ball my best at the moment, which is unfortunate timing and may also lead to some anomalous data.  But, this is likely a short term issue and should also iron itself out over the next few days.

[pete1276]

Here's a deep dive into the numbers for my first simulator session.  I took the best 5 shots from each the Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7-X (Izzy), and the Fujikura Ventus Red TR 7-X (Ginger).

The key takeaways so far is Izzy has a higher ball speed (+2 mph), higher launch angle (+1°), higher spin (+900 rpm), higher peak height (+4 yards), and higher descent angle (+2°).  Most importantly, though, Izzy is considerably straighter with dispersion.

One could argue that the height and descent angle are a bit on the high end.  However, I would personally prefer to err on the high launch side for now.  I feel that its considerably easier to lower the launch with impact conditions and driver head adjustments than the other way around. 

The most surprising early result is the jump in ball speed.  I wasn't expecting that at all.  It is likely due to hitting the middle of the face a little more often with Izzy due to the way the shaft releases.  It will be interesting to see if that trend continues over time. 

In my next session, I plan on focusing on one shot shape with each and seeing the different results.  At some point I will also try to focus on lowering the launch conditions a bit with impact or with driver head loft and compare those results as well.  Stay tuned!

[Nick_D]

I've updated my Main Post for Unboxing & First Impressions! I'll be playing 3 rounds in the next two days with the CQ, so we'll see how it fairs out on the course!

[Flerric]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:00 PM, GolfSpy_BNG said:

As I said some count it but today I chose not to.  Makes for a good talking point

Count it all day long! 
 

This was discussed during one of the tournaments a few weeks ago on the golf channel that it is one of the worst rules for stats. 
 

Isn’t the point to show accuracy and consistency? How is hitting the green less than that in any way? 
 

just my 2 cents 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

1 hour ago, Flerric said:

Count it all day long! 
 

This was discussed during one of the tournaments a few weeks ago on the golf channel that it is one of the worst rules for stats. 
 

Isn’t the point to show accuracy and consistency? How is hitting the green less than that in any way? 
 

just my 2 cents 

The PGA counts any ball that comes to rest on the fairway or green of a par 4 or 5 as a fairway hit so I screw it 12/14 it is. BooYah!

[HikingMike]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

The PGA counts any ball that comes to rest on the fairway or green of a par 4 or 5 as a fairway hit so I screw it 12/14 it is. BooYah!

Yes, the only correct and sane answer  

[pete1276]

On 7/12/2024 at 5:57 PM, GolfSpy_BNG said:

While getting the shaft ready to a grip I noticed something I didn’t before and haven’t seen on any GD shaft I’ve had before.  Curious what the other testers have found. 
 

1st this is the first GD shaft I have received without the hologram on the butt end of the shaft

2nd week is this line that perfectly matches up with the tour ad logo.    

The seam lines up with my Tour AD logo as well, @GolfSpy_BNG.  I also just noticed a very subtle printing in the white section of my shaft that says "Distance" and "Accuracy".  It's white on white text, so you wouldn't see it unless you were looking closely.  Nice little touch, does yours show anything like that?

 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

1 hour ago, pete1276 said:

The seam lines up with my Tour AD logo as well, @GolfSpy_BNG.  I also just noticed a very subtle printing in the white section of my shaft that says "Distance" and "Accuracy".  It's white on white text, so you wouldn't see it unless you were looking closely.  Nice little touch, does yours show anything like that?

 

I’ll look when I get home but I didn’t see it when I first inspected the shaft

[DukeStKing]

After playing two rounds with the Graphite Design AD VR, I've had mixed results: some good, some average. I shot 81 and 84 and hit 7/12 (2 non driver holes) and 11/14, which I'm happy with. Just as I said in my first impression, the dispersion has been very good (just like the AD UB). In my second round, I hit some nice draws with the VR- so with a small sample size the assertion that GD makes in this graph is holding up:

The VR is more left biased than the UB- which I like very much! Now, for the average result: DISTANCE. My distance with the VR is down compared to the Mitsubishi Kai Li White- definitely not something that has affected my scoring, because I'm still hitting it over 250 on most holes. My average is 260, because I play a very hilly course where I get a 280 yard drive on a downhill and 235 on an uphill hole. So on the flat ones, I'm hitting them around 255-265, which is down from my average of 270 with the Kai Li.  But I much rather hit over 50% of my fairways or be just off on the others than in the woods (my home course is very punishing in that way- its densely wooded on most holes.) 

This led me to get on a launch monitor and see what's going on. I want to focus here on the comparison between the VR and the Kai Li as many of my PING 10K compatriots have been asking for this and I can leave most of the UB review in the very capable hands of @WaffleHouseTour and @Alan Stewart So here are the numbers- Graphite Design Tour ADVR 6S: 

And Mitsubishi Kai'Li White 6S:

Both shafts were set at standard- 10.5  I tried to include the 10 shots that were most alike in terms of launch, club head speed and smash factor. The number that stands out is the extra 6 yards of carry that I averaged with the Kai Li White, which wasn't huge but enough to confirm what I was seeing on the course. I found that disappointing because I usually play courses with soft conditions and want to optimize carry. But on the other hand, this is very important information, because at my swing speed, I'm not optimizing carry since my launch is too low.  Both 10.8 (AD VR) and 11.6 (Kai Li) are too low; I should be at 14 degrees. 

So while I've been trying to increase my angle of attack (I've gone from -2 and -3 to 0 to sometimes +1), I will be playing my next rounds in the big + and/or small + to see what that does for my launch. I imagine that will also make the draw more likely as it closes the face angle. So I may also be using the flat setting to prevent a case of the 'lefts."  I’ll have to get back on a launch monitor to confirm whether the increase in loft helps get my launch where it should be. But the best test is always on the course. 

Speaking of best, this brings me to what made me very happy on the course- dispersion. Here is the Trackman dispersion with the ADVR, Kai Li White and the ADUB: 

 

And as you can see, the dispersion with the VR is indeed better- the UB wasn’t bad but you see the tendency to miss right.  So, the dispersion does indeed confirm what Graphite Design is asserting in its chart- the VR has a left bias while the UB has a tendency to move right. My 5 big misses (the dots outside the circles) show this tendency as well- the UB missed the least on my hook swing. Some of the big slices with the UB were not included in the data as they were part of my warm-up. It is interesting to note that the right side shots with the Kai Li were pushes, not slices. But the big left miss with the Kai Li was a duck hook that would have been a lost ball. My experience on the course is that both Graphite Design shafts keep the ball in play better than the Kai Li- the numbers seem to confirm that. What will be really interesting will to see if playing the VR and the Kai Li in the big plus setting will get my launch where it needs to be to optimize my distance on the course.

And for those of you interested, here are the numbers with the ADUB:

 

 

Edited July 17 by DukeStKing

[WaffleHouseTour]

 @pete1276 @GolfSpy_BNG my shaft isn't hiding its commitment to distance and accuracy...  at least not on the paint job. A little shy about showing it at the driving range so far...

Speaking of the driving range - I wanted to see the ball flight with my eyes rather than hit into the net and watch it on the screen.  And I wanted to just hit the GDAD UB only and see if I could get a better feel for how it loads and just how whipy it is or isn't by swinging just it for the evening.  So went to a driving range with driving range striped balls...

My typical miss is to the right.  Again, I fear the high wipey fade/slice.  And I hit a few of those tonight, but by and large my miss tonight was to the left.  Now some of that, or actually all of that, is all me.  My timing was really off.  But I spent some time on a zoom with my Skillest coach right after.  We discussed that I've been working on strengthening my grip and making sure the face is preset to be a closed to fight/cope with/offset/avoid the open face at impact.  She reminded me with a step down in flex the face should be easier to close.  Of course I had not thought of that.  So we talked about next time I practice to keep my strong grip but don't preset the club face to be closed.  So something to work on.  

I did carry the ball farther tonight - averaging 207 carry as opposed to 198 carry on Sunday.  Club head speed was up just a tick put still in that 93mph range.  Spin was down just a bit from 3600 to 3200 which I attribute to the range balls..  But I was much more toe biased tonight - which makes me think about cutting that shaft a bit more - but too soon for those measures.  Average height still hovers around 72 feet...  the two that got over 100 were too of my shortest drives - and sure enough the Mevo optimizer told me I overshot the optimal trajectory by a good margin.

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, I'm the short knocker in the group of testers... I want to get one of these 300 yard, 100mph, youngsters on the putting green and see what happens... but thats another test for another day.

[DukeStKing]

18 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

 @pete1276 @GolfSpy_BNG my shaft isn't hiding its commitment to distance and accuracy...  at least not on the paint job. A little shy about showing it at the driving range so far...

Speaking of the driving range - I wanted to see the ball flight with my eyes rather than hit into the net and watch it on the screen.  And I wanted to just hit the GDAD UB only and see if I could get a better feel for how it loads and just how whipy it is or isn't by swinging just it for the evening.  So went to a driving range with driving range striped balls...

My typical miss is to the right.  Again, I fear the high wipey fade/slice.  And I hit a few of those tonight, but by and large my miss tonight was to the left.  Now some of that, or actually all of that, is all me.  My timing was really off.  But I spent some time on a zoom with my Skillest coach right after.  We discussed that I've been working on strengthening my grip and making sure the face is preset to be a closed to fight/cope with/offset/avoid the open face at impact.  She reminded me with a step down in flex the face should be easier to close.  Of course I had not thought of that.  So we talked about next time I practice to keep my strong grip but don't preset the club face to be closed.  So something to work on.  

I did carry the ball farther tonight - averaging 207 carry as opposed to 198 carry on Sunday.  Club head speed was up just a tick put still in that 93mph range.  Spin was down just a bit from 3600 to 3200 which I attribute to the range balls..  But I was much more toe biased tonight - which makes me think about cutting that shaft a bit more - but too soon for those measures.  Average height still hovers around 72 feet...  the two that got over 100 were too of my shortest drives - and sure enough the Mevo optimizer told me I overshot the optimal trajectory by a good margin.

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, I'm the short knocker in the group of testers... I want to get one of these 300 yard, 100mph, youngsters on the putting green and see what happens... but thats another test for another day.

One of the things I loved about the ADUB is the fact that I never had a two way miss. I play a relatively tight course because of the dense woods, so I need a reliable ball flight. What works for me is if I start missing too much in one direction, I adjust the face angle. So if you can keep it a one way miss (left on your case), you may want to keep the grip and adjust it to an open face- I know it sounds crazy, but it worked for me and I struggle with an OTT issue. YMMV though. 

[WaffleHouseTour]

Maiden voyage…

[DukeStKing]

3 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said:

Maiden voyage…

Hey- that’s my line! 
 

Looks amazing with the blue grip! 
 

Enjoy the round. 

[Josh Parker]

Some great info so far.  The VR would be the one I would look at most likely so far. 

[DukeStKing]

27 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

Some great info so far.  The VR would be the one I would look at most likely so far. 

I’ll be hitting the range today with the VR- trying out the different settings to increase my launch. See if I can get it in the perfect set-up for me. I’ll be playing tomorrow morning, so I’ll be reporting back on both experiences. 

[Nick_D]

I played 27 holes yesterday with the CQ with mixed feelings. Similar to a few of my other fellow testers I was not seeing a two way miss which was nice, but my miss right was almost unmanageable. I would put what felt like a good swing on it and get up to my ball and see I was 10-20 yards short of my playing partners that I normally can keep up with. I'm definitely working on my swing to get rid of the high wipey slice that has a ton of spin, but my previous Maltby shaft seemed to bail me out of the super high spin misses. I'll need to spend some time on the launch monitor and see if I can reproduce what I saw yesterday!

When I look at my FIR% it doesn't seem near as bad as it felt. I played 9 holes at my home club in the morning and of the 7 fairways I only used driver 5 of them. Of those 5 I only hit 1 fairway, but I really can't blame the shaft for most of the misses as I had just put bad swings on them. For the next 18 holes I went and played a skins game at Harbor Shores and I can tell you it was WINDY. 

I used Driver everywhere I could and hit 7/13 fairways. However, of the 6 drives that missed the fairway......... 5 of them went in the water or out of bounds 

Overall, mixed feelings so far. I know my swing is to blame for most of my problems so I'm looking forward to seeing improvement over the next few weeks with the CQ. The good drives are good, but the bad ones are worse than I'm used to. League night tonight at my home club and we'll see how it goes!

[Alan Stewart]

So I had a good indoor session with a better height tee and got my first round in with the LTDx and Graphite Design Tour AD UB combo. Summaries are below:

TL/DR

2nd Trackman session and first on course report.  Good distance and feel results, very comfortable flex.  10/12 fairways hit. Consistently left to right, predictable but a little more than I am comfortable with. 

Trackman at Golf Galaxy

I was doing the Trackman Series by Taylormade and they let me have a few extra minutes after that to really try the new shaft and I was really warmed up by then.  I was swinging very smoothly on Tuesday and it was a good day for a testing session.  BTW, Royal Troon looks interesting and I am looking forward to watching the Open.

As you can see from the report below, I was consistently to the right, just like I saw with the original Trackman session. I was swinging well and the club speed was right around 105.  These were not max efforts but more than a stock swing.  I had a lower tee height so these are more indicative to my on course results (see below). I removed the wild left or right and thin shots to give a good representation of what the club and I can do.  These attack and club path numbers are what I normally expect and the height is right where I want to see it.

I am very happy with all of these results except for the right side bias.  I want to get my Luke, my local pro and see if he can find something that I am doing or can tweak to get this more toward center.

I REALLY like the feel.  The shaft is more flexible than my HZRDUS Blue RDX but I feel that it is very controllable and consistent, whether I am going stock swing or reaching for a little more distance.

First Round Experience

I had a great round playing with my dad at Royal St Patrick's Golf Links on Wednesday and did not catch any photos, just enjoyed the course and the company.

I took the Tour AD on course for the first time and I had a banner driving day.  10 of 12 driver fairways hit and the 2 misses were left and close to the fairway.  We had some good wind blowing and Royal St Patrick's is a very open, links-style course, so my driving average is not try indicative of how well I struck the ball.  With that said, average was about 245, including mis-hits.  This included:

• 291 long drive with a quartering helping wind,
• 270 opening drive into a strong cross wind from left
• 271 onto a tight fairway into the quartering wind from right
• 263 with a very controlled swing and a little helping wind from left on a tight fairway with OB left and water right that usually causes me trouble
• 224 well struck into the breeze that was 20+ yards past the well struck drives of the 2 younger guys in our group
• 226 well struck into the breeze
• 202 struck low and heely into the breeze
• 247 struck well into quartering cross wind
• 207 struck ok dead into the breeze
• 230 left mishit off fairway cross wind from right
• 246 into strong quartering breeze from right on high point of the course
• 217 left mishit off fairway with cross wind from left

I wasn't swinging for the trees and never really reached for anything much beyond a stock driver swing.  

Height was consistent with the Trackman session and where I want to see it.

I played a fairly consistent fade that bordered on a slice all day.  The left misses with just that, mishits and not hooks.

The twosome we were paired with commented on how well I was playing the fade today and I had to agree.  While I would like less left-to-right movement on my drives, it was predictable and playable.

[GolfSpy AFG]

I know I still owe some unboxing and first impressions; I'm sitting in the Salt Lake City airport right now and hope to get home in time to pick it up from the clubhouse tonight...left it to be built up this past Sunday.

I've been doing some testing though, sort of.  I'll be the first to admit this is not at all scientifically precise, but I charted my drives across 3 rounds with the PING G430 Max 10K with the stock PING Tour 2.0. I tracked total distance, FIR, right or left miss, and whether or not I was still in play with an open approach shot. (In other words, I was trying to track if I missed so bad I was in jail.). Bit of an eye chart but here it is...

I'll say it right now, to this point I'm unimpressed with the PING and with the stock PING Tour 2.0.  I'm hitting it pretty poorly and not very far, and putting aside the whole "it's the Indian not the Arrow" thing I am really really hoping the GD wakes this thing up.  (I'd been hitting my TSR2 with a Ventus much better than this.)

We'll see pretty soon.

[pete1276]

As promised, here is the data from my draw/fade session at the simulator.  The averages show the data pretty accurately.  These averages include all shots with both the Graphite Design TourAD IZ 7-X (Izzy) and the Fujikura Ventus Red TR 7-X (Ginger).  I've appended each with either D or F for draw/fade.  

Most of the results are what I would expect to see.  Fades are going to spin and launch higher.  I was striking the ball a little better with Ginger overall, so the ball speed was a little higher, but they're all very close.  The difference between draw and fade spin with Izzy was quite a bit higher than with Ginger.  That'll be something to keep an eye on.  Since Izzy seems to be more of a fade biased shaft, some of my fades turned more than expected which may have skewed some of the results.

I also felt that I struck Izzy better when I was trying to hit a draw, but I struggled getting the ball to start right of target.  The draws were slight, which is great because it does protect me a bit from those big hooks.  Ginger was easier to turn over for the draw, but prone to the occasional snap hook.  

The launch is down a little bit overall across the board from my initial session, so the ball seems to be launching in a better window and have a better decent window allowing the ball to roll (theoretically) a little better after landing.  

Here is the deep dive into the best shots.  I hand-picked the 5 best shots for each shaft and shape.

Draws for both clubs are topping out just under the 100 foot range, but there's a bout a 15 foot difference in height between Izzy and Ginger with fades.  I felt like Ginger performed better with draws, and Izzy performed better with fades, which makes sense.  The Tour AD IZ shaft is marketed as a high fade biased shaft.  You don't really have to do much to produce a fade, it's just a fade machine.

The other interesting thing is that the ball speed is up a bit with Izzy when I draw when I isolate the best shots.  This actually gives me a lot of confidence over the ball that my miss with Izzy when trying to draw is going to be a straight push, it's much less likely to hook and I can try and push the ball speed a little.

In the next session, I'm going to play around with the loft a bit on my driver head to try and dial in the launch and descent angles a little better.  Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to try at the simulator, and I'll do my best to produce it.  

Edited July 18 by pete1276