Braehead Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Hi everyone. Having played a lot more golf this year and struggled a bit with elbow tendonitis as a result, I'm thinking of going for an iron fitting so I can try some graphite shaft options. I'm currently playing KBS Tour Lite shafts and have previously used Steelfibre i110cw's. When I was fitted for my 2023 P770's the Steelfibres were not available as an option. The fitter also suggested I wasn't getting enough spin with them either. I'm 55 now and have to admit there are more aches and pains these days, so I'm just trying to make the game easier on my body. I've already started my Fred Couples transition and dropped my 5i for 5h, but I'm not ready to drop the 6i yet. I'm still playing to a respectable 3.8 index and carry my 7i 150-155 yards here in frozen Scotland. Has anyone else been through this change recently? What did you end up doing? Locally the fitters are all tied to a limited number of manufacturers so I'll have to rely on what they offer, but from what I can see, Mizuno looks to have the best range of no-upcharge graphite options. Alternatively, I travel to another fitter who I know has component deals and can fit shafts and heads independently. Shapotomous, Josh Parker, mr.hicksta and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: Ping G430LST, Kaili White S 3 Wood: Ping G430Max, Alta Stiff 3H: Callaway Paradym, Tour AD-DI 8S 4&5H: Callaway Apex Pro, Tour AD-DI 8S 6-PW: Taylormade P770 ('23 model), KBS Tour Lite S 50/54/60: Vokey SM9, KBS Tour Lite S Putter: Toulon Atlanta with KBS OneStep shaft Ball: ProV1x (or Wilson Staff Model X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverRick Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I’ve played graphite iron shafts for a couple of years now and have not found any negatives. Braehead, ejgaudette, MuniGolfer and 2 others 5 Quote G430 LST 10.5° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Driver G430 Max 15° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Fairway iCrossover 3i on T P T POWER 18 Hi Hybrid iCrossover 4i on Graphite Design ADDI 7S i525 5-U on TGI 90 S SM9 54° & 58° on Wedge DF2.1 on White LINK1on T P T Putter (on order) ProV1 Precision Pro NX7 Pro All Iron grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated Mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braehead Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 4 minutes ago, RoverRick said: I’ve played graphite iron shafts for a couple of years now and have not found any negatives. Has it always been the TGI 90's that you've played? I've had a lot of success with KBS shafts (Tour, Tour Lite and 90's) over the last 15 years so was wondering about them as an alternative. William P 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430LST, Kaili White S 3 Wood: Ping G430Max, Alta Stiff 3H: Callaway Paradym, Tour AD-DI 8S 4&5H: Callaway Apex Pro, Tour AD-DI 8S 6-PW: Taylormade P770 ('23 model), KBS Tour Lite S 50/54/60: Vokey SM9, KBS Tour Lite S Putter: Toulon Atlanta with KBS OneStep shaft Ball: ProV1x (or Wilson Staff Model X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeast87 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I went from steel on my old set to graphite on the Vice irons and found it a change for the best. Works better for my swing speed and found that they are a little lighter. William P, MountainManJeff and Braehead 3 Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I changed mid season. Went from my Project X IO shafts which I still have a link to the Accra TZ 85i and am not about to look back. Ball flight didn't change drastically, but the effort, timing and in the end fatigue factor has played a key role in making me wish I had made the switch a lot sooner. William P, Josh Parker, Jim Shaw and 5 others 6 1 1 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 No direct issues with graphite - the only thing I find is the transition to wedges - I'm dyed in the wool Dynamic Gold from this perspective. For pros and cons of each: Steel Pros: Price Durability Consistency Options Easier prep for building/gripping etc Virtually maintenance free Steel Cons: Weight Shock absorbancy Feel and spin from brand to brand is variable Finish options limited Graphite Pros: Lower weight Greater shock absorbancy Flex and profile options Finish and colour options Graphite Cons: Price Durability Careful attention to maintenance to prevent wear or scratches Careful attention to prep for building/gripping etc Butt OD on brand to brand is variable Not all brands in discrete and/or constant weight taper option Willie T, Braehead, The TXBexar and 4 others 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I put graphite in my PXGs and love them! Won't ever go back to steel. Gained height, lost the aches and pains from playing 200 plus rounds a year. Braehead, William P, Jim Shaw and 3 others 5 1 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanGi Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Do it. Do it and don’t look back. do yourself a favor and get fitted, but do it. ejgaudette, Jim Shaw, Braehead and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: 849D Fuji ‘24 Ventus Blue 5R 3-5Hy: Pinemeadow Command BK 6-PW: 699 v2 Mitsu MMT 80g Wedges: MAX milled 50° (bent to 48°), 54°, 58° Mitsu Kuro Kage black 2G S/R Putter: King Supernova 20 ArmLock AL2 grip Ball: Pro Soft Bag: C130 Wine is sunlight held together by water - Galileo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I turned 50 this spring and have been dealing with golfers elbow for years. I went for a fitting around my birthday and made the decision to give up my steel shafts for graphite. So after trying a few, I ended up with Recoil 95 F4 shafts in my Mizuno irons. As you mention, no one has as long of a list of no upcharge shafts and grips like Mizuno (I was shocked, honestly). I do wish I had known about the Fli-Hi direct iron replacement hybrids at the time of fitting. I probably would have grabbed one as a direct 4 iron replacement instead of a lot of guessing this summer with woods and hybrids. After the summer with the new clubs, I'm not going back to steel. Graphite is so good these days and come in so many flavors, if a fitter can't find a good option, I question their fitting acumen. I can from DG120 S300 shafts and tried researching on my own. It was a total failure on my part. Everything said the SF shafts are the best option coming from the DG products. Not for me it wasn't. It's absolutely worth going for a fitting to get the best shaft option for you based on your swing and not what things sound like on paper or on YT videos. Good luck, and enjoy the process! William P, The TXBexar, MountainManJeff and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver: STMax 230 10.5*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Fairways: 949x 3w / 5w, 15* / 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Hybrids: 939x 4h, 21*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 80g Hybrid Irons: JPX923 Hot Metal Pro, 5-GW, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: S23, 54* & 60*, UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter: Moment X Tour @ 35" & 71*, Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, White/Red Ball: Tour CG Technology: Anarch Rangefinder, V5 w/ Tags Shot Tracking. https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/65161-vortex-optics-rangefinders-2024-member-test/?do=findComment&comment=1089247 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/66852-unofficial-review-tpi-virtual-assessment https://forum.mygolfspy.com/classifieds/ - DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE CLASSIFIEDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhCanada1954 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I have used graphite shafts for 15 years now. I am 70 year and strange as it may sound, I am thinking of going back to steel shafts. The main reason is the inconsistent torque. I would like to know if steel shafts come in a senior flex? MountainManJeff and William P 1 1 Quote P.A. Renaud - Driver - Mizuno STX 230 Irons - Taylormade Stealth 5 to Sand wedge Putter - Taylormade Spider GTX 70 years old - disabled due to accident in Albania during 30 years service in Canadian Army. Donator/Veteran Broken 80 several times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braehead Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 51 minutes ago, OhCanada1954 said: I have used graphite shafts for 15 years now. I am 70 year and strange as it may sound, I am thinking of going back to steel shafts. The main reason is the inconsistent torque. I would like to know if steel shafts come in a senior flex? Inconsistent torque from shaft to shaft within your set of irons? William P 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430LST, Kaili White S 3 Wood: Ping G430Max, Alta Stiff 3H: Callaway Paradym, Tour AD-DI 8S 4&5H: Callaway Apex Pro, Tour AD-DI 8S 6-PW: Taylormade P770 ('23 model), KBS Tour Lite S 50/54/60: Vokey SM9, KBS Tour Lite S Putter: Toulon Atlanta with KBS OneStep shaft Ball: ProV1x (or Wilson Staff Model X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, OhCanada1954 said: I have used graphite shafts for 15 years now. I am 70 year and strange as it may sound, I am thinking of going back to steel shafts. The main reason is the inconsistent torque. I would like to know if steel shafts come in a senior flex? How are you measuring the torque on the shafts? Yes, steel shafts come in a variety flexes. I personally wouldn't just choose as shaft based on a letter the OEM paints on the shaft. Flex is measured differently from OEM to OEM so a senior flex in one shaft could be a ladies or regular or something else in another shaft. I would also suggest trying a shaft since they also have different weights and profiles which will influence how they perform for you and swing speed isn't a great measure for what shaft to pick. William P, GolfSpy AFG, Josh Parker and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 10 hours ago, Braehead said: Hi everyone. Having played a lot more golf this year and struggled a bit with elbow tendonitis as a result, I'm thinking of going for an iron fitting so I can try some graphite shaft options. I'm currently playing KBS Tour Lite shafts and have previously used Steelfibre i110cw's. When I was fitted for my 2023 P770's the Steelfibres were not available as an option. The fitter also suggested I wasn't getting enough spin with them either. I'm 55 now and have to admit there are more aches and pains these days, so I'm just trying to make the game easier on my body. I've already started my Fred Couples transition and dropped my 5i for 5h, but I'm not ready to drop the 6i yet. I'm still playing to a respectable 3.8 index and carry my 7i 150-155 yards here in frozen Scotland. Has anyone else been through this change recently? What did you end up doing? Locally the fitters are all tied to a limited number of manufacturers so I'll have to rely on what they offer, but from what I can see, Mizuno looks to have the best range of no-upcharge graphite options. Alternatively, I travel to another fitter who I know has component deals and can fit shafts and heads independently. In a few words; make the change and never look back. I have a handful of posts in various threads on this topic/question and 100% recommend changing to composite shafts to help resolve joint pain issues. In my case, after retiring and increasing play and practice a bunch, my left shoulder and elbow started killing me. I used a forearm compression strap for awhile before a Canadian friend/golfing buddy in Yuma, suggested I make the change. Did the fitting, purchased new sticks, and within 4 months... no pain. I kept using the compression strap for awhile after that and finally ditched it as well. While no certainty, my experience and what I've heard from others leaves me believing it's the exception that players won't find pain relief switching from steel. Plus, the best part is that for most you give up no performance and many see improvement . Good luck and keep us posted on what you decide. Josh Parker, cnosil, William P and 4 others 6 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverRick Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 10 hours ago, Braehead said: Has it always been the TGI 90's that you've played? I've had a lot of success with KBS shafts (Tour, Tour Lite and 90's) over the last 15 years so was wondering about them as an alternative. No. I tried SteelFiber i95’s. (Great) Mitsubishi MMT 85’s (too lite) KBS TGI 80’s (too light) 90’s (just right) 105’s. (Fine) I guess the bottom line is there is always an ideal weight for each of us and you should be fit for them, unless you just spend money on different ones and see what works best. Probably cheaper in the long run to get fitted. Joemiper, ejgaudette, MuniGolfer and 3 others 6 Quote G430 LST 10.5° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Driver G430 Max 15° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Fairway iCrossover 3i on T P T POWER 18 Hi Hybrid iCrossover 4i on Graphite Design ADDI 7S i525 5-U on TGI 90 S SM9 54° & 58° on Wedge DF2.1 on White LINK1on T P T Putter (on order) ProV1 Precision Pro NX7 Pro All Iron grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated Mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I’ve been in graphite for a good 5 to 6 years at this point. I tried going back to steel last year for a short period and I immediately made the switch right back to graphite. The feel and performance are key for me, along with not worrying about my golfers elbow coming back. ejgaudette, Braehead and William P 3 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Halo XL 5i-DW CBX 54* & 58* ER5 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredBoomer Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 I think that with high swing speed and gravedigger forearms, steel is still the most stable for irons and wedges, although even steel players usually play graphite in the driving iron. Graphite is physically kinder to us older players, I think, but if I had Tour level swing speed and younger body parts, I think that I'd still play steel. I wouldn't gain anything from it playing it now. The TXBexar, GolfSpy AFG, cnosil and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverRick Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, RetiredBoomer said: I think that with high swing speed and gravedigger forearms, steel is still the most stable for irons and wedges, although even steel players usually play graphite in the driving iron. Graphite is physically kinder to us older players, I think, but if I had Tour level swing speed and younger body parts, I think that I'd still play steel. I wouldn't gain anything from it playing it now. I would disagree with this statement that steel is more stable than graphite. Bryson DeChambeau uses graphite shafts in all his club precisely because they are more sable. Bryson would certainly qualify as high speed player. Now, they are more expensive than steel, but cost is the only thing “better” about steel shafts. Provided you get the correct ones. William P, Braehead, ejgaudette and 5 others 7 1 Quote G430 LST 10.5° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Driver G430 Max 15° on T P T POWER 18 Hi Fairway iCrossover 3i on T P T POWER 18 Hi Hybrid iCrossover 4i on Graphite Design ADDI 7S i525 5-U on TGI 90 S SM9 54° & 58° on Wedge DF2.1 on White LINK1on T P T Putter (on order) ProV1 Precision Pro NX7 Pro All Iron grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated Mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braehead Posted Monday at 07:40 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:40 AM 11 hours ago, RoverRick said: No. I tried SteelFiber i95’s. (Great) Mitsubishi MMT 85’s (too lite) KBS TGI 80’s (too light) 90’s (just right) 105’s. (Fine) I guess the bottom line is there is always an ideal weight for each of us and you should be fit for them, unless you just spend money on different ones and see what works best. Probably cheaper in the long run to get fitted. Fitting booked for October 23rd. Jim Shaw, fixyurdivot, ejgaudette and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430LST, Kaili White S 3 Wood: Ping G430Max, Alta Stiff 3H: Callaway Paradym, Tour AD-DI 8S 4&5H: Callaway Apex Pro, Tour AD-DI 8S 6-PW: Taylormade P770 ('23 model), KBS Tour Lite S 50/54/60: Vokey SM9, KBS Tour Lite S Putter: Toulon Atlanta with KBS OneStep shaft Ball: ProV1x (or Wilson Staff Model X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarvChamp Posted Monday at 11:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:34 AM Good topic and great replies! I'm approaching 80, and while graphite shafts are not an absolute necessity for me, I have played them for years. My last steel shafts were a lightweight Nippon; they were very good. But I found more graphites with low kick point, higher launch, and more flex with a proper weight for my weaker, slower swing speed. Best have been Project X and Aldila Ascent, I believe. Best, -Marv William P, Josh Parker and Braehead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ86Jayhawk Posted Monday at 11:48 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:48 AM I made the switch from KBS Tour Lite to the Aerotech SteelFiber shafts seamlessly. Butter soft feel, less hand shock on off center hits and better distance and feel. Highly recommend you at least try them - especially if you're over 50! William P 1 Quote Chris Cejka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted Monday at 11:53 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:53 AM I think the mindset has to change on graphite being for the "old". The technology and ability to get any profile in graphite is unreal these days. When we have one of the world's fastest swings playing graphite, it shows the advancements. And let's be honest, the way Brysons brain works, if they weren't producing they would be gone. fixyurdivot, ejgaudette, Jim Shaw and 5 others 6 2 Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braehead Posted Monday at 12:06 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 12:06 PM 31 minutes ago, MarvChamp said: Good topic and great replies! I'm approaching 80, and while graphite shafts are not an absolute necessity for me, I have played them for years. My last steel shafts were a lightweight Nippon; they were very good. But I found more graphites with low kick point, higher launch, and more flex with a proper weight for my weaker, slower swing speed. Best have been Project X and Aldila Ascent, I believe. Best, -Marv Awesome Marv, I want to be golfing at 80 too so need to take care of myself at 55 to get there. ejgaudette and William P 2 Quote Driver: Ping G430LST, Kaili White S 3 Wood: Ping G430Max, Alta Stiff 3H: Callaway Paradym, Tour AD-DI 8S 4&5H: Callaway Apex Pro, Tour AD-DI 8S 6-PW: Taylormade P770 ('23 model), KBS Tour Lite S 50/54/60: Vokey SM9, KBS Tour Lite S Putter: Toulon Atlanta with KBS OneStep shaft Ball: ProV1x (or Wilson Staff Model X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbn Posted Monday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:29 PM I've been playing golf for nearly 60 years. Went to graphite irons about 6-8 years ago and can't go back. They are much easier to hit after settling in with them. Recoil is my go to iron shaft, but I would like to try some Graphite Design shafts. William P, Braehead and ejgaudette 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Konter Posted Monday at 12:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:33 PM I got graphite shafts two years ago when I bought a new set of PXG irons. I thought they'd help me maintain my distance as my swing speed decreased (I'm 71 now). And sure enough, my distances are about the same as they always had been. I can't know for certain that the graphite shafts are the reason I've had no loss in distance, but I suspect that's the case. Braehead, William P and ejgaudette 3 Quote Darryl Konter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted Monday at 12:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:49 PM 54 minutes ago, Josh Parker said: I think the mindset has to change on graphite being for the "old". The technology and ability to get any profile in graphite is unreal these days. When we have one of the world's fastest swings playing graphite, it shows the advancements. And let's be honest, the way Brysons brain works, if they weren't producing they would be gone. Yes, exactly. These aren't your dad's dad's composite shafts . Josh Parker, hoppman and William P 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Hockey Posted Monday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:01 PM I just switched to graphite this year on my irons. I thought it was time to see if the graphite shafts would ease contact interaction with the turf. It's seems like the graphite is less harsh. The performance is very good. Dispersion rates are tighter and distance is slightly greater. Make sure you get fitted because there are a lot options to fit what you desire in launch angles and feel. MuniGolfer, Braehead, hoppman and 3 others 6 Quote Srixon Irons Cobra Driver Volkey Wedges Evenroll putter 3 hole in ones so far ( Ohio, Hawaii, Australia ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie T Posted Monday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:19 PM (edited) On 9/29/2024 at 4:49 AM, Braehead said: Hi everyone. Having played a lot more golf this year and struggled a bit with elbow tendonitis as a result, I'm thinking of going for an iron fitting so I can try some graphite shaft options. I'm currently playing KBS Tour Lite shafts and have previously used Steelfibre i110cw's. When I was fitted for my 2023 P770's the Steelfibres were not available as an option. The fitter also suggested I wasn't getting enough spin with them either. I'm 55 now and have to admit there are more aches and pains these days, so I'm just trying to make the game easier on my body. I've already started my Fred Couples transition and dropped my 5i for 5h, but I'm not ready to drop the 6i yet. I'm still playing to a respectable 3.8 index and carry my 7i 150-155 yards here in frozen Scotland. Has anyone else been through this change recently? What did you end up doing? Locally the fitters are all tied to a limited number of manufacturers so I'll have to rely on what they offer, but from what I can see, Mizuno looks to have the best range of no-upcharge graphite options. Alternatively, I travel to another fitter who I know has component deals and can fit shafts and heads independently. Great thread - for a number of years I played a set of TM SLDR irons (5-PW) in stock graphite - loved them. At 64 I decided to try steel again but kept the wedges in graphite (Recoil F3’s R flex 82 gram - which l love when I did the virtual fitting for the INDI wedge test). Still playing lightweight steel shafts in the semi-custom set I built/purchased (built Maltby TS1 8-Pw w/Apollo 85 gt shafts; purchased Edel SMS 7i and later 6i w/KBS Tour Lite 95 g shafts - all R flex). TBH - I am thinking about refitting the irons with Recoils that would match the INDI wedges - then again…these are playing well as is, maybe I just need to stop tinkering and just play. EDIT TO ADD: BTW I remembered after I posted that I still have a set of Callaway Diablo Edge Irons (5-Pw) with stock graphite shafts that I got for a 1/2 a song ($35 off the 'bay) back before I got the SLDR's. They had ratty grips and no one wanted them because they were really ugly - which means I have more in the grips than in clubs. The neat part is that they are a mix of R (5 & 6) and A (8-Pw) flexes. While I never loved the Callaway head and the super offset - they are still some fun clubs to hit. In fact when its super wet, the fat soles are less prone to digging. The clubs are predictably fun and at the end of the round they still feel fresh and light. Edited Monday at 05:21 PM by Willie T added content MuniGolfer, Braehead, Josh Parker and 1 other 4 Quote WITB? G400 SFT w/Aldila NXT GEN NVS 55 Aflex ; G410 3w; G400 3h(19), 4h(22), 5h(26) - stock Ping Alta CB R-Flex; SMS 6i, 7i - KBS TourLIte 95 R-Flex; Maltby TS1 8i-9i-PW w/Apollo Acculite 85 R flex; INDI FLX-S wedges (50, 54, 58) w/Recoil graphite shafts -R-Flex and AI-One 7T BD Milled (aka Millie), ball choice tends to be Pro-V1 or simliar 3pc urethane balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepjrn Posted Monday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:20 PM Being a senior, I changed to graphite shafts in my irons close to 3 years ago. I’m totally glad that I did, more accuracy, more distance, and just a much better match for my swing speed. Not to mention less sting on mishits, and they’re much more comforting to the arthritis in my hands! Braehead and William P 2 Quote Callaway Paradym 12* Driver, Callaway Paradym 3 & 5 fairways, Ping G30 4-PW, Cleveland 48*,54*,58* CBX wedges, Scotty Newport putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredBoomer Posted Monday at 01:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:39 PM 15 hours ago, RoverRick said: I would disagree with this statement that steel is more stable than graphite. Bryson DeChambeau uses graphite shafts in all his club precisely because they are more sable. Bryson would certainly qualify as high speed player. Now, they are more expensive than steel, but cost is the only thing “better” about steel shafts. Provided you get the correct ones. That could be totally correct. Intuitively, it doesn't seem that way to me, but it could certainly be true. In any case, it's not something that I personally have to worry about too much. I have both, and I can enjoy the fresh air and the company of my friends playing with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Dawes Posted Monday at 01:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:41 PM I did a fitting a couple years ago as I was getting back into golf and was fit into graphite shafts. But the more I played them the less I liked them. I felt like I could not tell what my bad shots where coming from due to lack of feedback and feel when I made bad contact so it was hard to tell if I was getting proper strikes. Got refitted this year as I had the chance to move into the T350's based on the good reviews I was seeing a a little puck in some trade in value I had at a local shop. Tried both graphite and steel this time around and found a good lighter steel steel shaft that maintained my club head speed but still gave me the shot feedback I was looking for. I feel like based on my experiences in switching as someone who is trying to improve there ball striking and there swing consistency steel is the way to go but if you are looking for a bust in swing speed and have a consistent ball strike I can see graphite really haloing you do some damage. William P 1 Quote Patrick Dawes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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