TR1PTIK Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Can you elaborate on the difference between talent and skill? The only thing that matters on the course is who put the little ball in the hole the fastest at the end of tournament play to get the win and the guys with the highest win totals and majors get to be debated about who is the greatest. My take and one shared by others (Adam Young author of The Practice Manual for instance) is that natural talent is the innate ability one is born with. We aren't all created equal in regard to muscle mass/development, flexibility, mobility, etc., etc.. Skill is something that's developed over time by taking our natural ability and focusing it on a particular task such as throwing a ball, dribbling, or swinging a golf club. So when I say DJ has immense natural talent, it does not mean that he is equally skilled compared to someone like Rory or Tiger. Those two individuals (along with many others) have focused years of practice into developing their skills with a golf club. I don't believe the same can be said for DJ and yet he is currently #1 in the world. Why? Because of his natural innate ability (primarily). @perseveringgolfer listed Seve as someone who was arguably more talented than DJ. IDK, I never got to see Seve play and have rarely seen or looked up any footage of him to weigh in much. I would say that he was definitely more of an artist than DJ is and that he did have great talent. He thought of (and executed) shots no one else would have imagined - he was creative. Does that mean his athleticism was equal to or greater than DJ's currently is? I just don't know to be honest. The statement about DJ being the greatest to ever place his hand on a golf club was a direct quote from the podcast, so I'd recommend having a listen to the full conversation and see what you think. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Slap said: Great points about DJ but... blowing the 2018 US Open should end all discussions about him being the GOAT. And many other tournaments he’s blown with a putter. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I couldn't agree more! Kind of reminds me of Sergio and his non-putting abilities. Although DJ is getting better with the flat-stick. Also, @blackngold_blood Cameron Champ is exactly who I was thinking of just before I read your post. He has a lot of potential that needs to be harnessed, and then everyone will have to watch out. That's exactly what everyone was saying about DJ when he first got out on tour. But then again, what ever happened to Anthony Kim? In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, M. Parsons said: I couldn't agree more! Kind of reminds me of Sergio and his non-putting abilities. Although DJ is getting better with the flat-stick. Also, @blackngold_blood Cameron Champ is exactly who I was thinking of just before I read your post. He has a lot of potential that needs to be harnessed, and then everyone will have to watch out. That's exactly what everyone was saying about DJ when he first got out on tour. But then again, what ever happened to Anthony Kim? I'll be interested to see how Cameron Champ progresses as well. I think he has a high ceiling also, but it's obvious when he's in a field with the best of the best that he is lacking a bit more in skill. He's super fun to watch though. I have to pick my jaw up off the floor every time I see a shot tracer on him. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00sportsman Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, PMookie said: This thread makes me think of what an old football coach used to say. “The definition of potential is: ain’t done crap yet!” Football coaches still say this. No doubt he's gifted, but until you're the GOAT, you're not the GOAT - potential or otherwise. I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, TR1PTIK said: My take and one shared by others (Adam Young author of The Practice Manual for instance) is that natural talent is the innate ability one is born with. We aren't all created equal in regard to muscle mass/development, flexibility, mobility, etc., etc.. Skill is something that's developed over time by taking our natural ability and focusing it on a particular task such as throwing a ball, dribbling, or swinging a golf club. So when I say DJ has immense natural talent, it does not mean that he is equally skilled compared to someone like Rory or Tiger. Those two individuals (along with many others) have focused years of practice into developing their skills with a golf club. I don't believe the same can be said for DJ and yet he is currently #1 in the world. Why? Because of his natural innate ability (primarily). @perseveringgolfer listed Seve as someone who was arguably more talented than DJ. IDK, I never got to see Seve play and have rarely seen or looked up any footage of him to weigh in much. I would say that he was definitely more of an artist than DJ is and that he did have great talent. He thought of (and executed) shots no one else would have imagined - he was creative. Does that mean his athleticism was equal to or greater than DJ's currently is? I just don't know to be honest. The statement about DJ being the greatest to ever place his hand on a golf club was a direct quote from the podcast, so I'd recommend having a listen to the full conversation and see what you think. he's #3- Justin Rose is #1 #3 is still pretty good tho I saw Seve up close many times in the Open and others, his ball striking was just so much better than most, the sound the strikes made, the launch, distance etc all just looked majestic Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said: he's #3- Justin Rose is #1 #3 is still pretty good tho I saw Seve up close many times in the Open and others, his ball striking was just so much better than most, the sound the strikes made, the launch, distance etc all just looked majestic I guess I misspoke a little when I said "currently"... https://www.golfchannel.com/news/dustin-johnson-poised-return-world-no-1-wgc-mexico-win I know I can watch old Masters tournaments on YouTube so I'll have to see if I can find him on there as well as search for some other footage. The stories I've read about Seve are legendary. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This thread makes me think of what an old football coach used to say. “The definition of potential is: ain’t done crap yet!”Now, DJ has won 20 times, which is more than a bunch of other “big name” guys put together, but I don’t go for “potential” in an argument about best ever. You either are, or you aren’t... No “ifs, ands or buts,” period. Dude is good, but he is who he IS. “If he were more like so-and-so,” or, “if only he did this,” problem is he isn’t, and he doesn’t. Let’s call a goat a goat for what they HAVE done, not what they could do...Greatest ever, possibly? Not at this pace. He’s good... But he isn’t the greatest. “If ifs and buts were presents and nuts, wed ALL have a good Christmas!”Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI’m with the football coach. Wake me up when DJ has won 4 majors and we can discuss if he’s cracked the top 20 all time.I’m not seeing it sorryVery good player, closing in on Hall of Fame probably there but please Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This thread is reminding me of Allen Iverson. We could reasonably say that he had as much talent as any BB player ever. He had so much potential but no real work ethic. AI was a great player with unmatched talent, no doubt, but he didn't do anything with it. We aren't putting AI in the same category as MJ, just as we shouldn't be putting DJ with Tiger, Jack, or Arnie. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (why do I get suckered into commenting on these sorts of threads?) I saw a pre tournament interview with DJ at the Masters a few years ago, and I lost count of the number of times DJ said, "I don't know," to random questions. Sure, the media can ask some stupid things, but DJ would just look back at them no matter what they asked and say, "I don't know." My point is that I can do without anyone ever asking DJ to speak or do an interview ever again. I think he's a perfect fit for Paulina, because between the two of them, I don't think they have two brain cells to rub together. A list couple with no brains? Sure, they aren't the first, and won't be the last. I've got at least 2 other US Opens and a PGA Championship that should have DJ's name on the trophy of. He probably should be winning at least 5 or 6 tournaments a year, but he doesn't for whatever reason. We've gone months without talking about DJ, and then all of a sudden he shows up in Mexico and wins, and now he's all we want to talk about. Well, I guess Kuchar and Mickelson are glad for that. I think if you gave DJ, Jack Nicklaus' competitive fire and desire to win majors, and DJ would have won at least 7 or 8 majors by now. If he had ANY semblance of drive or fire in his belly, he'd be as good as Lee Trevino was. Beyond saying that DJ severely underachieves, mostly because I don't think he really cares if he wins or not, I think another player that underachieves greatly in this day and age is Brooks Koepka. Dude has won 3 majors in the last two years, but why doesn't he win any other tournaments? Brooks is another one who I really think underachieves greatly. It's like Brooks flips a switch at tough majors and the rest of the year sort of just says, "whatever." I guess maybe that's the reason why Brooks and DJ are best buddies. All foam and no beer. G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, GSwag said: (why do I get suckered into commenting on these sorts of threads?) I saw a pre tournament interview with DJ at the Masters a few years ago, and I lost count of the number of times DJ said, "I don't know," to random questions. Sure, the media can ask some stupid things, but DJ would just look back at them no matter what they asked and say, "I don't know." My point is that I can do without anyone ever asking DJ to speak or do an interview ever again. I think he's a perfect fit for Paulina, because between the two of them, I don't think they have two brain cells to rub together. A list couple with no brains? Sure, they aren't the first, and won't be the last. I've got at least 2 other US Opens and a PGA Championship that should have DJ's name on the trophy of. He probably should be winning at least 5 or 6 tournaments a year, but he doesn't for whatever reason. We've gone months without talking about DJ, and then all of a sudden he shows up in Mexico and wins, and now he's all we want to talk about. Well, I guess Kuchar and Mickelson are glad for that. I think if you gave DJ, Jack Nicklaus' competitive fire and desire to win majors, and DJ would have won at least 7 or 8 majors by now. If he had ANY semblance of drive or fire in his belly, he'd be as good as Lee Trevino was. Beyond saying that DJ severely underachieves, mostly because I don't think he really cares if he wins or not, I think another player that underachieves greatly in this day and age is Brooks Koepka. Dude has won 3 majors in the last two years, but why doesn't he win any other tournaments? Brooks is another one who I really think underachieves greatly. It's like Brooks flips a switch at tough majors and the rest of the year sort of just says, "whatever." I guess maybe that's the reason why Brooks and DJ are best buddies. All foam and no beer. The funny thing about your perception of dj is the opposite of what people around him say. He’s very knowledgeable about his game and the swing. It has been rumored he’s stepsof ahead of his financial people and other members of his team on various subjects during their meetings. watch some videos of him with me and mygolf Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, GSwag said: (why do I get suckered into commenting on these sorts of threads?) I saw a pre tournament interview with DJ at the Masters a few years ago, and I lost count of the number of times DJ said, "I don't know," to random questions. Sure, the media can ask some stupid things, but DJ would just look back at them no matter what they asked and say, "I don't know." My point is that I can do without anyone ever asking DJ to speak or do an interview ever again. I think he's a perfect fit for Paulina, because between the two of them, I don't think they have two brain cells to rub together. A list couple with no brains? Sure, they aren't the first, and won't be the last. I've got at least 2 other US Opens and a PGA Championship that should have DJ's name on the trophy of. He probably should be winning at least 5 or 6 tournaments a year, but he doesn't for whatever reason. We've gone months without talking about DJ, and then all of a sudden he shows up in Mexico and wins, and now he's all we want to talk about. Well, I guess Kuchar and Mickelson are glad for that. I think if you gave DJ, Jack Nicklaus' competitive fire and desire to win majors, and DJ would have won at least 7 or 8 majors by now. If he had ANY semblance of drive or fire in his belly, he'd be as good as Lee Trevino was. Beyond saying that DJ severely underachieves, mostly because I don't think he really cares if he wins or not, I think another player that underachieves greatly in this day and age is Brooks Koepka. Dude has won 3 majors in the last two years, but why doesn't he win any other tournaments? Brooks is another one who I really think underachieves greatly. It's like Brooks flips a switch at tough majors and the rest of the year sort of just says, "whatever." I guess maybe that's the reason why Brooks and DJ are best buddies. All foam and no beer. I agree with this. I don't think DJ is particularly smart however, I wouldn't give the media the light of day either. Without getting political here, I might just say I don't know to every question the media asks, since everything you say gets twisted around into you saying something racist or bigoted when you definitely didn't mean it that way. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 hours ago, GB13 said: This thread is reminding me of Allen Iverson. We could reasonably say that he had as much talent as any BB player ever. He had so much potential but no real work ethic. AI was a great player with unmatched talent, no doubt, but he didn't do anything with it. We aren't putting AI in the same category as MJ, just as we shouldn't be putting DJ with Tiger, Jack, or Arnie. Ah, but I never said he was the greatest golfer of all time did I? Certainly not in a traditional sense. I'm not putting him in the same league as Tiger, Jack, or Arnie. You are. I've merely stated that I agree with the premise he may be the greatest natural talent in golf - as first proposed by the guys on the No Laying Up Podcast (Episode 195 if you actually care to listen). There is a difference. In order to be the GOAT, you have to be the GOAT at something. With no other frame of reference, if I said MJ is the GOAT, you'd say "at what?". The topic of discussion is and has been whether or not DJ is the greatest natural talent to ever swing a golf club. It has little to do with career achievements and I've stated that in multiple posts now. For those who have commented about DJ being dumb or otherwise unintelligent, I encourage you to read the article linked in the original post which was also shared again by @GolfSpy MPR. It's really quite insightful. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: The funny thing about your perception of dj is the opposite of what people around him say. He’s very knowledgeable about his game and the swing. It has been rumored he’s stepsof ahead of his financial people and other members of his team on various subjects during their meetings. watch some videos of him with me and mygolf I think many people, as the article in the OP alludes to, mistake the ability to produce some good word salad in interviews as a sign of intelligence. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, GSwag said: Beyond saying that DJ severely underachieves, mostly because I don't think he really cares if he wins or not, I think another player that underachieves greatly in this day and age is Brooks Koepka. Dude has won 3 majors in the last two years, but why doesn't he win any other tournaments? Brooks is another one who I really think underachieves greatly. It's like Brooks flips a switch at tough majors and the rest of the year sort of just says, "whatever." I guess maybe that's the reason why Brooks and DJ are best buddies. All foam and no beer. Taking this a little off topic, but oh well. Aren't majors all we're supposed to care about as golfers??? I'm confused... If Tiger could trade his 80 wins for 19 majors, would you be making the same argument about him? Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 hours ago, TR1PTIK said: No disputes here. The main point of the post and the podcast conversation that motivated it is that DJ may very well be the greatest natural talent "to ever touch a golf club" (NLU). Keep in mind though, that I'm only talking raw natural talent and not skill which is something entirely different. When it comes to skilled players, there's a list of golfers (probably equal in length to those with greater career achievements) that match or surpass Johnson's current overall ability. Truth be told, he's past the point of even being able to contend for GOAT in terms of career accomplishments, but I think it is possible for him to become the greatest golfer since Tiger Woods' reign and could very well end with a list of achievements not unlike Phil Mickelson. Why is Dustin Johnson the greatest raw talent? Because he's physically large? Perhaps he's athletically gifted? I don't buy it - his numbers don't approach that of the top, top tier players nor will they (he's too old at this point.) Eventually you are what you are - he is exactly what he is - he's had plenty of time to demonstrate what his potential is. It's quite good - it's not Jack or Tiger or Gary Player or Gene Sarazen (much smaller and less imposing people). When I was young we went through this with Tom Weiskopf - he could suddenly look like Adonis on the golf course knocking it miles past everyone including Jack. I didn't bother to look up his career I know he won a major to two and several tournaments. I heard all about how he had the greatest swing and potential - now he's known as a golf architect. Future generations are not going to be concerned about Dustin Johnson's potential nor will his name be mentioned among the greatest players of all time. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 7:40 AM, blackngold_blood said: As someone who isn't a fan of DJ's (I respect him and what he can do but don't turn on the TV to watch him like I would Tiger and others), I have no problem agreeing with the statement that he could be. I think if he wanted to be the goat and worked at it, the raw talent is there. Another one that comes to mind is Cameron Champ. Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app I think this is possibly my favorite post of the discussion so far. Not only do you get the intent of the original post, but you also offer up a possible contender for the title. Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, TR1PTIK said: I think this is possibly my favorite post of the discussion so far. Not only do you get the intent of the original post, but you also offer up a possible contender for the title. I'd like to offer up myself as a possible option. "I coulda been a contender, I coulda been somebody" Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Reesedw said: Greatest of all time potential, maybe. DJ is a great player. Not even close to greatest all time. By age 34 which he is... He has 20 PGA wins, 7 European wins, 6 WGC championship, a 1 major. Putting him in rare territory.. But in Legend territory and to be considered the G.O.A.T. He needs numbers like these.. Tiger by 34 had 65 PGA wins, 36 European wins, 15 wgc championships, and 14 majors and completing the grand slam twice .. Jack had 52 PGA wins, 12 majors and completing the grand slam twice. I have no doubt the articles author used GOAT as catalyst. That term in anything sports related generates passionate discussions and opinions. (Jack had 18 major wins). G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesedw Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Yes at the End of his long storied career. Not at the age of 34 which is what I was comparing since that is how old DJ is now.. Dave- Follow me on twitter @GolfCrazyWA and on Instagram @GolfcrazyWA WITB: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag Titleist TSR3 Hzrdus Black 65g shaft Cobra F8+ 3wd Hzrdus Red 65g shaft Cobra 3 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra 4 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra F8 irons 5-GW KBS tour 90 stiff shafts Cobra King Black Wedge 54* Cleveland RTX Zipcore Wedge 58* Snake Eyes Viper Putter. Ball: Taylormade TP-5X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Submitted as evidence: TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Submitted as evidence: There’s many a pro golfer who have a good swing from the other side of the ball. Iirc they tend to have competitions at the players during practice round hiring from the other side. Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Here’s a blind resume 19 PGA tour wins28 Euro tour wins4 majors And this guy is not thought of when all time greats come up. Mr talented has a long, long way to go to catch that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson153 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Here’s a blind resume 19 PGA tour wins28 Euro tour wins4 majors And this guy is not thought of when all time greats come up. Mr talented has a long, long way to go to catch that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ernie??Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy CobraConnectChallenge3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellis745 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I like DJ, but wouldn’t call him a GOAT at all. I think he may has/had the potential to be in that convo and he still has, hopefully, many more years to go to get in the top tier of all timers. But at this point, even with all he’s accomplished, he’s underachieved and never capitalized on his talent. I think a lot of it for him though was finding early success and not being mature enough to handle it. He seems to have settled down in the past few years and his game shows it. PXG 0811X Gen 4 7.5* - Graphite Design Tour AD-HD 7 TX TaylorMade M6 15* - PX HZRDUS Green 80 TX Titleist 913 Fd 18* - MCA KuroKage XMS 90 X /// OR /// Callaway XForged UT 20* - Aldila Rogue Black 105 TX Srixon Z745 4-P - PX LZ 7.0 Vokey SM7 49F / 53F / 58K - DG TI S400 Odyssey Black #3 34” Titleist AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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