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4 minutes ago, RollingGreens said:

I had them for a little over a year. I live in the midwest so I don't get to play much over the winter. Honestly I don't think I had more than 40 rounds on them, I'm not much of a backhander. The scratches I can understand, but how the chrome wore really irritated me. It looked like it had taken the polish/finish completely off. I am pretty meticulous with cleaning, so putting them away wet wouldn't be an issue.  The worst part is I don't think I did anything the would cause that to happen, a little soap and water, wiped off the dirt and dried them off.

BAsed on that description I would agree that I would expect them to hold up better than they did.  

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If a guy shows up to the first tee with super shiny clubs that aren't obviously brand new .... I'm playing him for everything in my wallet! If a guy shows up to the first tee with well-used clubs

Evidently not all chrome is created equal. I clean my clubs after every round with just water and an old toothbrush, and dry them. Here are my Wilson RM Midsize irons after more than 20 years use, the

"IF" you do indeed have hard water, you might want to buy some gallon jugs of distilled water from the supermarket for about $0.88 each, just to use for cleaning the clubs. But being in Cleveland, I c

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3 minutes ago, cnosil said:

BAsed on that description I would agree that I would expect them to hold up better than they did.  

Hopefully my new mizuno irons will fare better

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I've had my SZ irons since early last summer and after 60 or 70 rounds they look brand new. FYI I wash my clubs after every use with our great Lake Erie water and a soft club brush . I also have a set of C300's and the scratches on them resemble yours but that's after a couple of years and probably 200 plus rounds.

I also have a Ping 3.0 lob wedge that I got mid summer and the plating(?) is worn on the sole. Luck of the draw?


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I played my F8s for two years, and I'm still playing the wedges.  They look fine.  Nothing like your pics.  I wonder if yours came from a bad batch?

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16 hours ago, RollingGreens said:

Hopefully my new mizuno irons will fare better

My JPX900F’s still look great after 4 years, no reason to think they won’t continue to wear well.

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12 hours ago, cnosil said:

How long had you had them and how often do you play?   Yes,  they look like they are pretty worn.   When I look at the bottom of the PW it looks like the scratches on the sole are from the ground.   The back of the clubs obviously wouldn't have ground impact but if you do like I do and backhand balls on the chipping green you might get those scratches.   I don't think "hard water" would do that to the clubs especially if you dried them after cleaning. 

This may not be a cleaning issue, maybe bouncing around in the bag causes most of the damage? I use (every other) iron covers and the difference in my club condition versus all my golf buddies who don’t is night and day. They ALL make fun of my iron covers, and they also ALL admire how good my clubs look - no matter what brand I’m playing. People ask me if my irons are new all the time...

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As @Middlernotes, not all chrome finishes are equal.  Your cleaning recipe certainly shouldn't adversely affect the finish.  Unless you find a pattern of this issue with other owners of these clubs, I'd be wondering about the type chemicals being used at the courses you play and if you tend to have frequent wet/damp conditions.  The fertilizers and insecticides can be pretty caustic.  

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On 1/27/2021 at 3:10 PM, goaliedad30 said:

If a guy shows up to the first tee with super shiny clubs that aren't obviously brand new .... I'm playing him for everything in my wallet!

If a guy shows up to the first tee with well-used clubs that look like the finish is well worn .... I'm not playing that guy for money, or I'll get cider in my ear!

Learn to embrace the well-worn look! Ever seen what the pros' bags look like? Generally well worn, and with dime-sized wear on the sweet spot!

I’ll be sure to let everyone else who has OCD “just embrace it”.  Make sure you bring a few C notes to the course😉  

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On 1/28/2021 at 8:56 PM, HardcoreLooper said:

I played my F8s for two years, and I'm still playing the wedges.  They look fine.  Nothing like your pics.  I wonder if yours came from a bad batch?

I saw only one other person on the cobra reviews complain of what I think is the same issue. I bet if I searched more retailers their may be a small grouping with this issue

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I used Simple Green on a 2003 Ford truck bumper to clean off tar and general dirt - the chrome started flaking right after that.  No, Ford wouldn't replace the bumper.  And the transmission crapped out at under 40k miles.  Don't use harsh cleaning soaps on chrome. 

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Try a little white vinegar and see what it does. Vinegar works well on glassware that gets spotted with hard water stains/ residue. It shouldn’t hurt the metal but start small and inconspicuous. 

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Tools not jewels...

I'll soak the bottom half of my golf towel to wipe them down after shots on course and top half to dry them. If I forgot, it's spit and the brash brush attached to my bag. I'll wash them in a bucket of soapy water once or twice a year if I am really bored. But, that is mostly to clean the grips. 

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On 2/2/2021 at 11:08 PM, lshines said:

I used Simple Green on a 2003 Ford truck bumper to clean off tar and general dirt - the chrome started flaking right after that.  No, Ford wouldn't replace the bumper.  And the transmission crapped out at under 40k miles.  Don't use harsh cleaning soaps on chrome. 

The chrome was bad if that happened. Simple Green is biodegradable and environmentally safe. I doubt it can or will harm chrome.

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I use soap and hot water on my clubs, and a soft plastic brush, like my wife's toothbrush, for example. 

The woods and hybrids are basically wiped off, no vigorious scrubbing of any kind.  

Sometimes I will use a groove cleaner to get the stuck-on crud out the grooves.   Use gently I might add.  

I use hot soapy water on the grips with a sponge pad about once every two weeks in the summer.     Except the putter grip, never clean the putter grip, like Al Bundy's grill.

 

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I have black 2019 Calloway Apex Pros and only have 7 rounds with them, but I hit a ton of balls into my net from a mat. I notice the finish on them is wearing thin across the base but especially on the front edge. I would believe ur issue would be more likely caused by sandy soil or a golf mat before I would believe it was water. Now if u had permanent water spots in the chrome, that would scream hard water to me ... but not overall club dulling. 

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31 minutes ago, B_R_A_D_Y said:

I have black 2019 Calloway Apex Pros and only have 7 rounds with them, but I hit a ton of balls into my net from a mat. I notice the finish on them is wearing thin across the base but especially on the front edge. I would believe ur issue would be more likely caused by sandy soil or a golf mat before I would believe it was water. Now if u had permanent water spots in the chrome, that would scream hard water to me ... but not overall club dulling. 

I think the pictures speak for themselves. Looking at the chrome straight out of the box to how they fared down the line is questionable. Who knows what the true cause could really be

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I’m pretty sure those Cobras aren’t chromed. The purpose of chrome is to prevent rust on clubs made from soft carbon steel. The Cobras are made from stainless steel so no need for the expense of chrome. They are a high polish finish. I’ve never been a fan of high polish stainless. It always shows every little scratch and swirl and starts to look dull over time. Titleist and Callaway SGI irons are particular offenders. 

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On 1/29/2021 at 7:26 PM, RollingGreens said:

I’ll be sure to let everyone else who has OCD “just embrace it”.  Make sure you bring a few C notes to the course😉  

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I am with you! Call it OCD or whatever, but I clean my clubs as I play and keep them looking new. Just the way I roll.....

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I don't really bother with actual "cleaning" of my clubs. I will soak them in a bucket of hot water and dish soap and wipe them dry about twice a year. Other than that.... I don't bother. They are a hunk of steel attached to a stick, used for hitting a little white ball. They are used in the dirt, sand and grass. Dirt is inevitable. I embrace it...lol.

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On 2/5/2021 at 7:00 PM, SlowNLow said:

I use soap and hot water on my clubs, and a soft plastic brush, like my wife's toothbrush, for example. 

The woods and hybrids are basically wiped off, no vigorious scrubbing of any kind.  

Sometimes I will use a groove cleaner to get the stuck-on crud out the grooves.   Use gently I might add.  

I use hot soapy water on the grips with a sponge pad about once every two weeks in the summer.     Except the putter grip, never clean the putter grip, like Al Bundy's grill.

 

So my question is...... what does your wife think when you use her toothbrush?  Is hers better than yours or you don't want that grimy toothbrush back in your mouth after cleaning?  🤣🤣🤣🤣     

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