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I’ve decided I’m going to get one of the two after reading reviews and forum suggestions. I’m leaning towards orange whip but it’s a close race. 
 

If you were only going to get one of the two, which would it be?

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Id probably go orange whip

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Orange whip 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

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Hmm. Seems like two completely different uses and purposes in these options. Warming-up, getting loose, and stretching before a round? OW.

To actually use for hitting balls, training a swing, visual and tactile feedback? Lag.

Depends on what you’re trying to accomplish....

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Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X

Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X

Irons:  Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

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I’m a little biased since I have an OW but I’m glad I bought it.


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7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
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I never tried the lag but I love the orange whip def a game changer .. I sometimes wish I could use it mid round if I feel my swing is starting to go sideways but that would be against the rulessssss

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Orange Whip for sure. Love mine.


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Have you looked into the golf sling shot? I just bought one and started a regimen with it. You can use it to warm up and for swing training. I am using the Super Speed training regimen with the golf sling shot. IMO it is good for overspeed training and proper timing of the swing. After just one session I am seeing a 2 MPH average increase on my driver swing speed. Need to keep it up and see if it stays but so far so good! 

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FWIW I got the Sklz gold flex trainer which is considerably cheaper than the orange whip but generally the same thing and am quite happy with it. 

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I have the orange whip. I would buy it again if I had to choose between them. 

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:cobra-small: 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 

:cobra-small: 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex

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On 3/6/2021 at 8:11 AM, Watchnut33 said:

I’ve decided I’m going to get one of the two after reading reviews and forum suggestions. I’m leaning towards orange whip but it’s a close race. 
 

If you were only going to get one of the two, which would it be?

I got an Orange Whip (driver length) a few years ago, it is intended to improve sequencing, but I really like it for conditioning and getting loose before playing or hitting balls on range.  It is always in the bag.   

I tried a Lag Shot, it was the 7 iron, it was nice, and while it is intended as a swing aid, it can be used to warm-up club also.   

For conditioning and warm-up, I'd go with Orange Whip.   Can't hit anything with it, especially the ground.

Both will help with sequencing.   And both are well-made products.

If you want something to improve ball-striking, then Lag Shot.  If you get one, please watch the videos and be patient.  And aim a little left.  😏

 

 

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Haven't tried the lag, but my wife and I use the OW on a regular basis not only for pre round warmup but also on non golfing days. 

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I have the Orange Whip Lightspeed and have actually gained some a few yards off the tee after using it. So, I would recommend it if you are looking for speed training. But I have heard great things about the normal Orange Whip Trainer for tempo.

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Fairway Wood: Tayormade RocketBallz Stage 2 (3 Wood)

Hybrid: Cleveland CG Black (2 Iron)

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On 3/6/2021 at 7:25 AM, Nolan220 said:

I never tried the lag but I love the orange whip def a game changer .. I sometimes wish I could use it mid round if I feel my swing is starting to go sideways but that would be against the rulessssss

Educate me a little bit. It’s illegal to use an orange whip mid round?

 

Ive got the lagshot and I do find it beneficial to take a few practice swings throughout the round to help me maintain my tempo. Am I unknowingly breaking the rules?

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Irons: Taylormade Stealth 4-P (Fujikura Ventus Blue Graphite 7 Stiff)

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14 minutes ago, PeterHenric said:

Educate me a little bit. It’s illegal to use an orange whip mid round?

 

Ive got the lagshot and I do find it beneficial to take a few practice swings throughout the round to help me maintain my tempo. Am I unknowingly breaking the rules?

Yes you are. Rule 14-3 I believe covers this. Anything that assists in making a swing would be considered a breach 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

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52 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Yes you are. Rule 14-3 I believe covers this. Anything that assists in making a swing would be considered a breach 

I "liked" your response but I don't actually "like" your response. Ignorance WAS bliss. Ugh.

 

Not that I'm actually competing in any tournaments or anything like that where it would really matter. Only time I'm actually "competing" is against my brother when we play together.

 

Edit:

Just googled 14-3 and that has to do with rangefinders and such. It's actually 4-3-6. No biggie.

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Driver: Titleist TSr 2 @ 10.5º (Fujikura Ventus Red Velocore TR Stiff)

4 Wood: Titleist TSr 2 @ 14.5º

Driving Iron: Ping iCrossover 17º (Project X HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX 80 Stiff)

Irons: Taylormade Stealth 4-P (Fujikura Ventus Blue Graphite 7 Stiff)

Wedges: Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore 48º, 52º, 56º (TT Dynamic Gold Tour Issue)

Putter: Taylormade GT Max

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3 hours ago, PeterHenric said:

Educate me a little bit. It’s illegal to use an orange whip mid round?

 

Ive got the lagshot and I do find it beneficial to take a few practice swings throughout the round to help me maintain my tempo. Am I unknowingly breaking the rules?

yeah, you aren't suppose to use a training aid mid round because it would give you an advantage.. this of course if you are playing someone or are just following the rules... if I am playing by myself or with friends that don't mind I will take out the OW and swing it before I tee off in mid round. Below is the verbiage from USGA rule 4.3. 

 

(6) Stretching Devices and Training or Swing Aids.

  • Allowed.

    • Using any equipment for general stretching (other than in making a practice swing), whether the equipment is designed for stretching, for use in golf (such as an alignment rod placed across the shoulders) or for any purpose unrelated to golf (such as rubber tubing or a section of pipe).

  • Not Allowed.

    • Using any type of golf training or swing aid (such as an alignment rod or a weighted headcover or “donut”) or a non-conforming club to make a practice swing or in any other way that creates a potential advantage by helping the player in preparing for or making a stroke (such as help with swing plane, grip, alignment, ball position or posture).

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On 5/4/2021 at 5:16 PM, Nolan220 said:

yeah, you aren't suppose to use a training aid mid round because it would give you an advantage.. this of course if you are playing someone or are just following the rules... if I am playing by myself or with friends that don't mind I will take out the OW and swing it before I tee off in mid round. Below is the verbiage from USGA rule 4.3. 

 

(6) Stretching Devices and Training or Swing Aids.

  • Allowed.

    • Using any equipment for general stretching (other than in making a practice swing), whether the equipment is designed for stretching, for use in golf (such as an alignment rod placed across the shoulders) or for any purpose unrelated to golf (such as rubber tubing or a section of pipe).

  • Not Allowed.

    • Using any type of golf training or swing aid (such as an alignment rod or a weighted headcover or “donut”) or a non-conforming club to make a practice swing or in any other way that creates a potential advantage by helping the player in preparing for or making a stroke (such as help with swing plane, grip, alignment, ball position or posture).

So this begs the question - I most certainly can grab a driver or other club out of my bag and make practice swings between shots.  Since I'm able to hit shots with the lagshot what if I only normally carry 13 clubs?  Am I able to then swing that club?  I could in theory play a shot with it. 🙂

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SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft

Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

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1 hour ago, revkev said:

So this begs the question - I most certainly can grab a driver or other club out of my bag and make practice swings between shots.  Since I'm able to hit shots with the lagshot what if I only normally carry 13 clubs?  Am I able to then swing that club?  I could in theory play a shot with it. 🙂

It’s a non confirming club so you would be in violation of that as well

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

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To update this: I ended up getting the orange whip and it’s helped tremendously. Between using it to warm up and using it to help my tempo my swing has never been in a better place.
 

Now if I can just get my chipping yips under control...

Ping G410+, 9* with draw bias weight setting, 55g Alta CB stiff shaft

Taylormade Burner 3w, stiff shaft 

Mizuno JPX919 Hot Metal 4-GW, regular flex

Cleveland CBX2 54* wedge

Cleveland Smart Sole 58* wedge

Ping Scottsdale Piper C putter

Titleist Tour Speed balls

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Glad to hear you like the Orange Whip. This is probably my favorite training aid. 

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:cobra-small: 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 

:cobra-small: 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 

:cobra-small: 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex

:cobra-small: Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap)

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1 hour ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Glad to hear you like the Orange Whip. This is probably my favorite training aid. 

My favorite and only training aid.

Rick

 

 

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Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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2 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Glad to hear you like the Orange Whip. This is probably my favorite training aid. 

 

1 hour ago, Rickp said:

My favorite and only training aid.

Same here

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I'm in the other camp, I have had the Orange Whip and the Sklz Gold Flex.  Because of back surgery I had to sell both.  I bought a GForce Golf Swing Trainer 7 Iron as it has the flexible shaft and is used for hitting golf balls.  When I bought the GForce before I had ever heard of the Lag Shot but they seem to be essentially the same thing for a very close price.   I am able to use the GForce before rounds just as I used to do the Orange Whip.  It was my favorite all time training aid but as I said because of the back surgery I had to give it up and get something more manageable for my warm up.   Now I favor the GForce because of the ability to also use it to hit balls.   I think you would be happy with either choice.   

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I’m thinking of getting the orange whip light speed anybody had success with it

 

 

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Late to this party.

I've used all three. OW and SKLZ basically the same in my book and they are great.

The Lag Shot helps with sequencing tempo too. But, you can add in plane, path, and impact. Nothing like instant feedback to see if your swing is as good as it feels. 

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I have the Lag Shot 7 iron and driver.  Wondering if it’s worth getting the OW too, as it seems to have a more flexible shaft and a heavier head - hence should be more effective in letting my body learn how to hold on to create more lag? Be interested to hear views of those who already own both. Thanks!

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