PapaStark 19 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 My last few rounds plus a sudden urge of wanting to buy a new club has me questioning my current putter. Some background on my game since I'm still new here, I've used the same Ping classic Anser 2 for 16 years now (best garage sale purchase I've ever made). I would say I'm an average putter, 33-37 putts a round. I am curious how much the technology has changed and looking to try something new. The questions I am hoping you all could help with is what caused you to jumped from a blade style to a mallet head putter? Did you stay with it or did you switch back to a blade putter? Finally, any recommendations you all may have for me to try out, blade or mallet, I am kind of at a loss here figuring out where to start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil 25,270 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, PapaStark said: My last few rounds plus a sudden urge of wanting to buy a new club has me questioning my current putter. Some background on my game since I'm still new here, I've used the same Ping classic Anser 2 for 16 years now (best garage sale purchase I've ever made). I would say I'm an average putter, 33-37 putts a round. I am curious how much the technology has changed and looking to try something new. The questions I am hoping you all could help with is what caused you to jumped from a blade style to a mallet head putter? Did you stay with it or did you switch back to a blade putter? Finally, any recommendations you all may have for me to try out, blade or mallet, I am kind of at a loss here figuring out where to start. Number of putts doesn’t tell us a lot. If you hit 18 greens it is a good number; if you only hit 1 then it might be a terrible number. It is better to assess your putting based on make percentage from distances, feet of putts made, or strokes gained numbers. It enables you to compare against some baseline. that said putting can be very individual. Some pick and play putter based strictly on looks and haven’t change putter in 50 years. Some change daily based on mood of the day. There has been some technology advancements in putting but not a lot. Evnroll face technology is probably the biggest for someone that misses the center of the face. The use of technology like puttlab, quintic, or capto for analyzing putting stroke and doing fittings is where the big gains have been made. Shafts seem to be the big new area but I haven’t seen a good case made to justify the price. i have played blades and mallets and haven’t found anything larger than a mid mallet that really works well for me so I tend to stick with blades. Trust me when I say I have tried most putters/styles available in the market. I switch just because I wanted to try something different and wanted to see how the various putter configurations fit with my stroke. Playing a mid mallet right now so it is kind of an in between the first question would be what are you trying to fix with a new putter? Do you have a consistent miss? Or are you just wanting to get something new and different with no improvement goals? 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54-10S 588 58-12 Putter: Auditions ongoing Backups: 6330, TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, mFGP2, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaStark 19 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 I totally agree that number of putts does not show the whole picture, I just haven't really kept up with all the other stats enough that I could share them. My game has been improving a lot lately, I am hitting more greens in regulation so perhaps I am just seeing another weakness. Golf is a great game after all!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryd3 381 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 be interesting for you to get a putter fitting at Club Champion or somewhere like that and see how you react with the different style putters. For me it was a great use of $100 or whatever it cost. 1 Quote SIM2 autoflex 505 Ping G410 5 wood Ping G410 7 & 9 woods Titleist T100S 6-gap Vokey SM8 54 Sub70 JB low bounce 58 or SM8 58* PXG Operator H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty19 34 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Agree with everyone but especially Larryd3- get fitted and they may see something else that is causing any type of putting issue. Getting fitted and might find something that works well for your stroke and fits your eye the best. I need to do the same but always gravitated back to a mid-mallet Rossie. It just fits my stroke pattern and eye. David 2 Quote SIM 9* - Hzdrus RDX Black 70 M1-3HL- Hzdrus RDX Blue 70 Steelhead 7WD RCH99 J15 CB 4-pw C-Taper Lite Equalizer Wedges 50*-54*-58* V- Tour - M3W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayBird 74 15 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 it is not the arrow but the Indian........take a putting lesson or practice more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler 3,588 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 cnosil gave you a good reply but it’s an individual choice so I’m not sure how value added asking here is. After decades using blades only, I switched to a mallet last year as it allowed me to better start putts on my intended line (higher MOI?) even though I have an arc stroke (no one is actually SBST). A fitting might be helpful, but trying some mallets vs blades may tell you what you want to know. 2 Quote Callaway Rogue 10.5° & 3W Mizuno CLK 3H 19°, JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec ER2 Maxfli Tour Snell MTB-Black Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag 18,611 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 ... Having played an 8802 style heel shafted blade my entire career I had no interest in mallet putters. Seeing so many on tour made me inquisitive as these guys jobs depends on making putts. I tried the Spider Slant Neck and it just didn't work for me as I have a gate stroke and I like toe hang. Everything changed when I moved to Phoenix and started played Bermuda greens where a nice smooth stroke just wasn't working like it did on fast and true bent greens I played my whole golfing career. I needed to be more aggressive on short putts and just found it difficult to change both my stroke with a putter that had worked well for 35 years. So I started looking at mallets again and decided to buy one and use it for 3 months regardless of results. ... I went looking for a mallet and money was not a consideration so I figured a $399 or more expensive TaylorMade, Scotty or Bettinardi was in my future. I was a little shocked to find a Cleveland 11s putter produced the best feel, balance and results. $129 was a pleasant surprise. Putting is the cornerstone of my game and after playing it 9 months now I feel my mallet putting on Bermuda is finally on par with my blade putting on bent greens. So I won't be going back to a blade as long as I live in Phoenix. Obviously this is purely anecdotal to my putting and style but I could not be happier with my mallet. 4 Quote Driver: LTDx 10.5* ... LinQ M40X 6F3 Fairway: SIM2 Max 15/16.5/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R Utility: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R Sim Hybrid 22* ... Diamana Ltd 75R Irons: 5-Pw Forged Tec ... Steelfiber i80R Wedges: MG3 50*/MG3 58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R Putter: Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5" Ball: Maxfli Tour '22/TP5x '21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 12,388 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Played a PING anser 2 from 1999 to 2019. It became clear to me that I needed to try something different as my good putting rounds were less frequent than the poor rounds. I tried several and since that time have found a mallet, Phantom X 11.5. What I'd suggest is try as many as you can. While putting is technical in a sense, it's ridiculously personal. Weight, feel but above all, looks. If you love what you're looking at, you're going to roll it better...I truly believe that. 1 Quote Titleist TSI3 LAGolf DJ 65 5 TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Mizuno Pro 223 4-P Nippon Modus 3 115X Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5 Srixon Z-Star XV Divide Official 1/12 testers for 2022 L.A.B. Golf Putters Western, NY 5.8 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag 18,611 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, bens197 said: What I'd suggest is try as many as you can. While putting is technical in a sense, it's ridiculously personal. Weight, feel but above all, looks. If you love what you're looking at, you're going to roll it better...I truly believe that. ... Amen to that! Unless you have a straight back straight through stroke (and few really do) there will be at least some arc to your stroke. A putter with the right balance will stay on track with zero manipulation. Many will "wander" a little off line if the balance isn't right. And I could not agree more, it better look good sitting behind the ball because sooner or later if it doesn't, it will become a scapegoat for your putting woes. 2 Quote Driver: LTDx 10.5* ... LinQ M40X 6F3 Fairway: SIM2 Max 15/16.5/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R Utility: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R Sim Hybrid 22* ... Diamana Ltd 75R Irons: 5-Pw Forged Tec ... Steelfiber i80R Wedges: MG3 50*/MG3 58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R Putter: Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5" Ball: Maxfli Tour '22/TP5x '21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 12,388 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, chisag said: And I could not agree more, it better look good sitting behind the ball because sooner or later if it doesn't, it will become a scapegoat for your putting woes. Every putter that just doesn't look good is junk and is the only reason why I missed those putts...:) 2 1 Quote Titleist TSI3 LAGolf DJ 65 5 TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Mizuno Pro 223 4-P Nippon Modus 3 115X Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5 Srixon Z-Star XV Divide Official 1/12 testers for 2022 L.A.B. Golf Putters Western, NY 5.8 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler 3,588 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 12 hours ago, bens197 said: What I'd suggest is try as many as you can. While putting is technical in a sense, it's ridiculously personal. Weight, feel but above all, looks. If you love what you're looking at, you're going to roll it better...I truly believe that. +2, amen. While I think looks are most important with putters, for me at least looks and feel are important for every club in the bag! When I am choosing any new club, the first screening criteria is looks - if I don’t like the look of a club I won’t even consider it. That always leaves enough options for me. YMMV 2 Quote Callaway Rogue 10.5° & 3W Mizuno CLK 3H 19°, JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec ER2 Maxfli Tour Snell MTB-Black Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU 10,470 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 9:28 PM, chisag said: ... Having played an 8802 style heel shafted blade my entire career I had no interest in mallet putters. Seeing so many on tour made me inquisitive as these guys jobs depends on making putts. I tried the Spider Slant Neck and it just didn't work for me as I have a gate stroke and I like toe hang. Everything changed when I moved to Phoenix and started played Bermuda greens where a nice smooth stroke just wasn't working like it did on fast and true bent greens I played my whole golfing career. I needed to be more aggressive on short putts and just found it difficult to change both my stroke with a putter that had worked well for 35 years. So I started looking at mallets again and decided to buy one and use it for 3 months regardless of results. ... I went looking for a mallet and money was not a consideration so I figured a $399 or more expensive TaylorMade, Scotty or Bettinardi was in my future. I was a little shocked to find a Cleveland 11s putter produced the best feel, balance and results. $129 was a pleasant surprise. Putting is the cornerstone of my game and after playing it 9 months now I feel my mallet putting on Bermuda is finally on par with my blade putting on bent greens. So I won't be going back to a blade as long as I live in Phoenix. Obviously this is purely anecdotal to my putting and style but I could not be happier with my mallet. Thank the Good Lord above someone on here knows a BLADE putter is an 8802 . A Anser style is NOT a blade putter 2 1 Quote Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW Hogan Starburst 50* --- SW Cleveland 588 56*--- LW Cleveland 588 60*--- Putter -- Yep it is back Rusty Scotty Santa Fe 1997 vintage. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU 10,470 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 9:28 PM, chisag said: ... Having played an 8802 style heel shafted blade my entire career I had no interest in mallet putters. Seeing so many on tour made me inquisitive as these guys jobs depends on making putts. I tried the Spider Slant Neck and it just didn't work for me as I have a gate stroke and I like toe hang. Everything changed when I moved to Phoenix and started played Bermuda greens where a nice smooth stroke just wasn't working like it did on fast and true bent greens I played my whole golfing career. I needed to be more aggressive on short putts and just found it difficult to change both my stroke with a putter that had worked well for 35 years. So I started looking at mallets again and decided to buy one and use it for 3 months regardless of results. ... I went looking for a mallet and money was not a consideration so I figured a $399 or more expensive TaylorMade, Scotty or Bettinardi was in my future. I was a little shocked to find a Cleveland 11s putter produced the best feel, balance and results. $129 was a pleasant surprise. Putting is the cornerstone of my game and after playing it 9 months now I feel my mallet putting on Bermuda is finally on par with my blade putting on bent greens. So I won't be going back to a blade as long as I live in Phoenix. Obviously this is purely anecdotal to my putting and style but I could not be happier with my mallet. A couple of months ago I played a course that I had not played in a while. Normally it has fast smooth bent greens. In the past I tended to use one of my numerous Ironmasters or my Cleveland Designed by 8802 style. I got out there and thought **** I left the blade putters at home. And the greens were as fast and smooth as I remembered them to be. I putted with my old rusty lead taped Santa Fe. Did not know if I could putt real good greens anymore. Man I putted lights out surprised myself 1 Quote Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW Hogan Starburst 50* --- SW Cleveland 588 56*--- LW Cleveland 588 60*--- Putter -- Yep it is back Rusty Scotty Santa Fe 1997 vintage. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle 15,386 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Chisag is so on point. You have to assess the type of green you are putting on. Bermuda is a bit harder to get the ball rolling so a putter with a low cog and moi should work better. I grew up on bent grass greens and used a blade, but after many years in Sunny Florida, I switched to mallets. I finally found a mid-mallet that worked for me…..the Evnroll ER2. Newer putters are weighted heavier than putters of the past. 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft Fairways: PXG 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: Ben Hogan VKTR 3 Hybrid(18*)w/Recoil ES regular shaft Irons: Ben Hogan Ptx 5-PW w/Recoil 660 Regular graphite shafts; soon to be Titleist T300 Wedges: Ben Hogan Tkt-15 (49*/53*/57*) w/Recoil 660 Regular shafts Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black). Ball: Maxfli Tour CG & Titleist Pro V1x. Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU 10,470 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 8 hours ago, fozcycle said: Chisag is so on point. You have to assess the type of green you are putting on. Bermuda is a bit harder to get the ball rolling so a putter with a low cog and moi should work better. I grew up on bent grass greens and used a blade, but after many years in Sunny Florida, I switched to mallets. I finally found a mid-mallet that worked for me…..the Evnroll ER2. Newer putters are weighted heavier than putters of the past. Chisag is 100% dead on it most of the time. Through his posts and a PM or two on WRX he talked me into giving the Steelfiber shafts in the TM irons another shot. Glad he did I played 63 holes in 4 days last week with no pain or stiffness. Practiced on and off 6 hrs today with no pain or stifness. Putters for me can be tricky I have a lot of lead tape on the bottom of the Scotty but I can not tell you the head weight--- Some of my Ironmasters I have it on some I do not just depends on how it feels to me. 1 Quote Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*--- Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label R-- PW Hogan Starburst 50* --- SW Cleveland 588 56*--- LW Cleveland 588 60*--- Putter -- Yep it is back Rusty Scotty Santa Fe 1997 vintage. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in4par 18 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I posted in another thread here on putters and putter fittings. I went through the Club Champion putter fitting few years ago. I play a Scotty Mallet which I've customized nicely for me and after going through the routine i was told I should be playing a Blade style putter based on my swing, head angle, etc. I kept my Scotty, didn't change over to a Blade however, I will say, every time I miss a putt it plays games with my mind every time now thinking I should change to a Blade style. I also have recently tried Bettinardi Blade style putters and have to say I love the feel a lot better than my current Scotty. The problem is, now, if I make the investment and change over, I have no idea if it will make a difference on the course to help me drain more putts. Its torture especially now in the offseason here. Brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuka44 421 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 10/20/2021 at 10:59 AM, PapaStark said: Finally, any recommendations you all may have Find something that feels good to you and practice with it. I was a little "wristy", and went to left hand low. That initially helped my putting accuracy. You are right on where I am in terms of number of putts a round. Practice 3-10 footers regularly, you can actually make an appreciable amount more of this legth putts. You're not really going to make a really higher percentage on putts over 10 feet in length. Over 10 feet concentrate on distance control and not 3 putting. One thing which helped me was pacing off the distance of a putt. I found it helped me actually knowing a putt was 28 feet and not 20 etc.. I equate it to basketball. You guaged your jump shot power I believe by subconsciously calculating your distance from the basket, with visual distance clues...foul line 15 feet, inside that 12-14 feet etc. etc... Since golf greens have no visual references like a basketball court, I've found that pacing off the distance has really began to help me begin to groove distance putts knowing their length. Not taking a good result on a putt, standing over one a few holes later, using about the same stroke, only to find out the putt was actually 9 feet longer. It just allows me to just store away info on putts, with a frame of reference, seems to help me call them up later, when I have ones of the same lenth. Kinda like when I pulled up at 17 feet on the court and my stroke took over. Just a thought to help improve. 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Putter: Scottsdale Wolverine Woods: Gigagolf 3W, 2H, 3H Ball: E12 Soft Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler86 417 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Like most people, i have a few putters. If im lag putting a ton or my putting stroke is crap, from lack of weekly practice, i will usually play a mallet. If my putting stroke is solid or i need to make 10’ers or less for up and downs, blades typically work better for me. I like messing around with putters and mixing it up, just for fun. But always seem to go back to ONE I WAS FIT FOR. Which is center shafted SeeMore M7X. Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler86 417 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 My next putter purchase will probably be unfit so i can mess around with rolling it from the other side of the plate…. Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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