aguybadatgolf Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 58 minutes ago, johngschulz said: I also have 9 tomorrow after work! Unfortunately we’re not sure if the weather will be cooperative, it might be a very wet day… Ah the joys of spring golf . It’s supposed to be 70s the next 2 days in Denver but then rainy, windy, and 50s over the weekend. bens197, HikingMike, CudaKota66 and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Tester Opportunities 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter The Bag Driver - Paradym Ai Smoke MAX Driver with Project X Denali - 6.5 3W - Paradym 15° with Kai'li™ White - X 3H - Gen5 0311 19° with Ventus Blue Velocore - X Driving Iron - 699 Pro 20° with UST PROFORCE V2 Hybrid White/Yellow - X Irons - 6-PW 699 Pro in black with Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges - S159 50, 54, 58 Dynamic Gold X100 (TESTER) Putter - KING 3D Printed Agera Armlock Putter , Zebra AIT 3 (On time out) Ball - Z-Star XV or Pro Plus Tester for 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaKota66 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, aguybadatgolf said: Ah the joys of spring golf . It’s supposed to be 70s the next 2 days in Denver but then rainy, windy, and 50s over the weekend. That beats our forecast (in Indiana): chance of snow today (so we covered the tulips AGAIN!), 50s this weekend, then 60s-70s for the days many of us work for a living! Congrats, testers! Yes, I'm jealous!! I scheduled a fitting for these next week at our 'local' PING Fitter of the Year - Bunker Run Golf Shop. The early photos & results have me drooling Edited April 3 by CudaKota66 add content Leonvdwesthuizen, aguybadatgolf, HikingMike and 6 others 7 2 Quote Epic Flash King F8 3W Epic Flash Max 7W G425 4i-PW CBX2 50/54/58 Inovai 6.0 Tour Response or Triad (both thanks to MGS testing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguybadatgolf Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, CudaKota66 said: That beats our forecast (in Indiana): chance of snow today (so we covered the tulips AGAIN!), 50s this weekend, then 60s-70s for the days many of us work for a living! Congrats, testers! Yes, I'm jealous!! I scheduled a fitting for these next week at our 'local' PING Fitter of the Year - Bunker Run Golf Shop. The early photos & results have me drooling Always frustrating when it works out that way. You’ll have to share your thoughts with us! So far I only have good things to say about performance and looks. CudaKota66, TJ Hall, William P and 1 other 4 Quote Tester Opportunities 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter The Bag Driver - Paradym Ai Smoke MAX Driver with Project X Denali - 6.5 3W - Paradym 15° with Kai'li™ White - X 3H - Gen5 0311 19° with Ventus Blue Velocore - X Driving Iron - 699 Pro 20° with UST PROFORCE V2 Hybrid White/Yellow - X Irons - 6-PW 699 Pro in black with Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges - S159 50, 54, 58 Dynamic Gold X100 (TESTER) Putter - KING 3D Printed Agera Armlock Putter , Zebra AIT 3 (On time out) Ball - Z-Star XV or Pro Plus Tester for 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 hours ago, aguybadatgolf said: I’m loving the 58-T! Went to the range last night and was hitting some of the spiniest flop shots I ever have. I even had the ball spinning back a couple feet from 50 yards 2-3 times. Very excited for my 9 tomorrow after work. This is why I’m super excited to put it through the process. The idea of a lob wedge with some grit is super exciting. Rob Person, TJ Hall, johngschulz and 4 others 6 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johngschulz Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 So you guys… I have a Rapsodo MLM in my garage setup and tonight I wanted to do a quick mini test comparing my current gamers vs. the PING S159 wedges. After a warm up I hit 10 shots with each of the six clubs. I threw out the highest and lowest carry distances for each club, leaving 8 shots each for comparison. I don’t get the spin numbers, but I figured it might give man an idea of how the gapping and dispersion was looking… I’ll need to do a little editing on the screen shots, but all I can say wow… you can’t make this stuff up… Keep an eye out for my follow up here because it was kinda wild* *wild for very limited data Willie T, William P, bens197 and 8 others 10 1 Quote WITB: Driver: Callaway Epic Speed 11* 4 wood: Titleist 975f 16.5* 7 wood: Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead III Irons: 5-PW Maltby DBM Forged, Nippon Pro Modus 120s Wedges: 50* PING S159 S-12 | 54* PING S159 S-12 | 58*: PING S159 T-6 Putter: PING Sigma G Kinloch C Forum Tests and Reviews: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, johngschulz said: So you guys… I have a Rapsodo MLM in my garage setup and tonight I wanted to do a quick mini test comparing my current gamers vs. the PING S159 wedges. After a warm up I hit 10 shots with each of the six clubs. I threw out the highest and lowest carry distances for each club, leaving 8 shots each for comparison. I don’t get the spin numbers, but I figured it might give man an idea of how the gapping and dispersion was looking… I’ll need to do a little editing on the screen shots, but all I can say wow… you can’t make this stuff up… Keep an eye out for my follow up here because it was kinda wild* *wild for very limited data Wild good or wild unexpected? Looking forward to seeing the results! bens197, William P, HikingMike and 1 other 4 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johngschulz Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, johngschulz said: So you guys… I have a Rapsodo MLM in my garage setup and tonight I wanted to do a quick mini test comparing my current gamers vs. the PING S159 wedges. After a warm up I hit 10 shots with each of the six clubs. I threw out the highest and lowest carry distances for each club, leaving 8 shots each for comparison. I don’t get the spin numbers, but I figured it might give man an idea of how the gapping and dispersion was looking… I’ll need to do a little editing on the screen shots, but all I can say wow… you can’t make this stuff up… Keep an eye out for my follow up here because it was kinda wild* *wild for very limited data First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Edited April 4 by johngschulz Leonvdwesthuizen, ejgaudette, Shrek74 and 14 others 6 3 8 Quote WITB: Driver: Callaway Epic Speed 11* 4 wood: Titleist 975f 16.5* 7 wood: Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead III Irons: 5-PW Maltby DBM Forged, Nippon Pro Modus 120s Wedges: 50* PING S159 S-12 | 54* PING S159 S-12 | 58*: PING S159 T-6 Putter: PING Sigma G Kinloch C Forum Tests and Reviews: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 41 minutes ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Love seeing the gapping hit the right marks! GolfSpy_KFT, Rob Person, William P and 3 others 4 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Thats a nice data set! johngschulz, Leonvdwesthuizen, GolfSpy_KFT and 3 others 6 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Nice data and gapping. Leonvdwesthuizen, bens197, johngschulz and 3 others 6 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Nice data and review so far! bens197, William P, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William P Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Great gapping results @johngschulz. johngschulz, Rob Person and bens197 2 1 Quote TSR1, 9*, TPT Nitro 17 Lo TSR1, 15*, TPT Power Range Fairway 17 Lo TSR2, Hybrid, 18*, TPT Power Range Hybrid 17 Lo RBZ Tour4 Hybrid, 21.5*, S T-200, (2023), 5-PW, SteelFiber, i95cw, S Vokey Design, 50,54,58, Dynamic Gold S200 Studio Select, Newport 1.5 ELIXR (2022), MaxFli Tour S (2024) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie T Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. As others have noted awesome data here…I really liked how “forgiving” the Ping’s look to be based on the ball marks on the faces - looking forward reading more on these wedges. johngschulz, HikingMike, Rob Person and 2 others 4 1 Quote WITB? Ping G400 SFT w/Aldila NXT GEN NVS 55 Aflex ; Ping G410 3w; Ping G400 3h(19), 4h(22), 5h(26) - stock Ping Alta CB R-Flex; Edel SMS 6i, 7i - KBS TourLIte 95 R-Flex; Maltby TS1 8i-9i-PW w/Apollo Acculite 85 R flex; INDI FLX-S wedges (50, 54, 58) w/Recoil graphite shafts -R-Flex and Odyssey AI-One 7T BD Milled (aka Millie), ball choice tends to be Pro-V1 or simliar 3pc urethane balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_KFT Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Great stuff @johngschulz! William P, johngschulz, Rob Person and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: DARKSPEED X 9* Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X (Currently Testing) Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W MCA Kai'Li White 60 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 3H MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Snakebite Black 52/56/60 Hi-Rev 2.0 Black Stiff Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour X & ProV1x #LeftyGang Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Unofficial FootJoy Hyperflex BOA 2023 Review Unofficial Flightscope Mevo Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just getting caught up on this, and have to say the testers feedback so far are impressive . Great job TJ Hall, johngschulz, bens197 and 2 others 5 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 hours ago, johngschulz said: Damn, that's some seriously tight dispersion!! Nicely done. Rob Person, KC Golf, bens197 and 4 others 6 1 Quote In My Sun Mountain C-130 'merica Cart Bag: Driver: BRNR Mini Driver, 11.5*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Fairway: 949x 3w, 15*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Fairway: 949x 5w, 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Hybrid: 939x 4H (21*), Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Black, 90g Irons: 101's, 5-PW, DG120 S300 Wedges: 286 @ 50*, JBFG @ 54* & 60*, DG120 S300 Putter: 002 Mid-Mallet @ 35", Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, Desert Camo Ball: Tour & Testing Vero X1 Technology: H4 w/ Tags, Pro L2 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 That’s great figures for the Pings. The dispersion is really good! bens197, johngschulz, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G430 Max Fairway: LTDx Max 3 wood Hybrid: Mavrik 3 hybrid Irons: Mavrik 4-AW, Wedges: Jaws MD5 50 and 56 wedges Putter: Mallet Ball: Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 14 hours ago, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. The gamer results aren't atrocious, but the PING S159 results are great! Cool to see all the charts and comparison to pro percentages! Great initial data set and comparison! bens197, johngschulz, HikingMike and 4 others 7 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: AL-6 armlock | Unofficial review here | DF3 OFFICIAL MEMBER REVIEW HERE Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 One thing I’d like to discuss is the dyla grip. This isn’t a new offering from PING, it’s been around for decades in different textures and forms. As I get more time hitting shots what I’m realizing is that the dyla may not work for my 50*. A lot of my approaches end up becoming a negotiation between my 46 & 50. Having the same grip on the 50 is likely going to yield better results. I haven’t brought out the knife quite yet but if there was one thing thus far that is not working it’s the dyla grip. Rob Person, Shrek74, Leonvdwesthuizen and 4 others 5 2 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 8 minutes ago, bens197 said: One thing I’d like to discuss is the dyla grip. This isn’t a new offering from PING, it’s been around for decades in different textures and forms. As I get more time hitting shots what I’m realizing is that the dyla may not work for my 50*. A lot of my approaches end up becoming a negotiation between my 46 & 50. Having the same grip on the 50 is likely going to yield better results. I haven’t brought out the knife quite yet but if there was one thing thus far that is not working it’s the dyla grip. Did you have a choice of what grips came with the Ping wedges, or were these just the standard off the rack? Rob Person, William P and bens197 3 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, TJ Hall said: Did you have a choice of what grips came with the Ping wedges, or were these just the standard off the rack? We did. I chose the dyla grip explicitly because of the non-taper. I don’t foresee it being a huge issue for the SW & LW as I don’t use them frequently for full swings. Feel is a big deal and I’m not really feeling it. I hate to sound picky but I also want to be fair and honest. Rob Person, GolfSpy_KFT, William P and 4 others 7 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 11 minutes ago, bens197 said: We did. I chose the dyla grip explicitly because of the non-taper. I don’t foresee it being a huge issue for the SW & LW as I don’t use them frequently for full swings. Feel is a big deal and I’m not really feeling it. I hate to sound picky but I also want to be fair and honest. Understood. The grip is a big piece of the feel. It will be interesting to see if you get different feel and results from a grip that matches the rest of your set. Rob Person, GolfSpy_KFT, bens197 and 1 other 4 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 34 minutes ago, bens197 said: One thing I’d like to discuss is the dyla grip. This isn’t a new offering from PING, it’s been around for decades in different textures and forms. As I get more time hitting shots what I’m realizing is that the dyla may not work for my 50*. A lot of my approaches end up becoming a negotiation between my 46 & 50. Having the same grip on the 50 is likely going to yield better results. I haven’t brought out the knife quite yet but if there was one thing thus far that is not working it’s the dyla grip. Do you think the lack of taper is the issue? bens197 and William P 2 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, Rob Person said: Do you think the lack of taper is the issue? It’s not that. The Sonar is a reduced taper so I was hoping to mimic the feel. It’s a +1/32 with two added wraps. Stretching it a little isn’t really giving me what I’m looking for. Shrek74, Rob Person, TJ Hall and 1 other 4 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikingMike Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2024 at 10:09 PM, johngschulz said: First mini test… Disclaimer: this is a very limited data set and it will take a lot more testing to confirm the results below Okay here we go. I was fully expecting to see benefits around the green, but I wasn’t expecting to see such an impact on full swings immediately. I hit 10 full stock shots into my garage net with each of my current gamer wedges against PING S159 to compare. I have the Rapsodo MLM, and I measured the shots in net mode, hitting off of my range mat. Since I have the non-pro version of the MLM I am unable to get spin numbers currently. This test would rely on the measurements for carry distance and dispersion and would give me my first comparison on how full shots felt. I dropped my longest and shortest carry for each club leaving 8 shots to compare and get an idea of my averages. My Gamers… After some warm up shots I started on my testing. I started with the highest loft and worked up (down?) from there. Starting with my 58* Maltby I hit 10 shots in a row and moved on to the next club continuing in that pattern. My 54* and 58* use KBS 125 wedge shafts and my GW has the Nippon Pro Modus 120 S shaft. Here are the results: I have to say I didn’t feel like I was swinging too great, but I hit the ball well enough to get feedback knowing when I was hitting one a little toey. At this point of the year the results seem about right for not feeling “on it”. To note, I would consider the Maltby DBM GW one of my most confident clubs in the bag and it shows as far as distance dispersion relative to my other wedges in the numbers above. Ping S159… Same test, new clubs. 10 full stock shots into the net throwing out the high and low carry distances. I started with the 58* again, to note the GW below is actually 50* S-12 PING S159. My test wedges came with the stock PING Z-Z115 shafts and the Dylawedge Lite grips, D4 swing weight for all of them. I felt like my swing was still about the same through this session as well, and I was having trouble finding the center of the face. However… here are the results: The dispersion in the S159 were significantly tighter. I felt like I had a fair share of mishits with both sets of wedges. I could feel when I struck the ball poorly still on the S159. They actually *felt* kind of hot off the face when I connected, maybe that’s the foam material? The dispersion numbers are just wild to me and the distance loss/gap is definitely acceptable since I was all over the face of the wedges. I’m not sure how easy it will be to tell in the pictures, it does look like the ball marks are more concentrated/ consistent on my gamers, but I still saw the better results on the PINGs. Wow you were right teasing this earlier. That dispersion difference is nuts! I haven’t done this myself, so I don’t have a good frame of reference, but both seem decent to me, so it’s quite something that the Pings had such tighter dispersion, and even like you said with possibly more hits spread around the face. It’s almost hard to believe it. These are just wedges, with most of them just being plain solid metal. Looks like the Ping S159s have little cavities, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it. We’ll see if this plays out with more data, as it’s exciting stuff. Have any other ideas what could be behind that? ejgaudette, Rob Person, Michael.Sandoval33 and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: G400 LST 8.5° 3W: King Speedzone Irons: i200 (3 thru PW & UW) Wedge: Ray Cook 60 deg Putter: Spalding TP Mills 3 Tech: on Apple Watch & phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bens197 Posted April 6 Popular Post Share Posted April 6 Good morning everyone…headed to the range today with my best golfing partner (my 6yo daughter) for some distance control work. I’ve made the appropriate updates to my Top Tracer app so I’ll try my best to have some good data to share head to head v the Vokeys! ejgaudette, Rob Person, Shrek74 and 7 others 5 2 3 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguybadatgolf Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bens197 said: Good morning everyone…headed to the range today with my best golfing partner (my 6yo daughter) for some distance control work. I’ve made the appropriate updates to my Top Tracer app so I’ll try my best to have some good data to share head to head v the Vokeys! Enjoy! I played 9 after work on Thursday and had a great time with the S159 wedges. Have 18 booked for tomorrow morning. Wanted to get a few rounds in before I comment on the on course experience. So far I’ll just say that I observationally get a lot more consistent spin from different lies. Edited April 6 by aguybadatgolf bens197, Shrek74, GolfSpy_KFT and 6 others 3 6 Quote Tester Opportunities 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter The Bag Driver - Paradym Ai Smoke MAX Driver with Project X Denali - 6.5 3W - Paradym 15° with Kai'li™ White - X 3H - Gen5 0311 19° with Ventus Blue Velocore - X Driving Iron - 699 Pro 20° with UST PROFORCE V2 Hybrid White/Yellow - X Irons - 6-PW 699 Pro in black with Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges - S159 50, 54, 58 Dynamic Gold X100 (TESTER) Putter - KING 3D Printed Agera Armlock Putter , Zebra AIT 3 (On time out) Ball - Z-Star XV or Pro Plus Tester for 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, aguybadatgolf said: Enjoy! I played 9 after work on Thursday and had a great time with the S159 wedges. Have 18 booked for tomorrow morning. Wanted to get a few rounds in before I comment on the on course experience. So far I’ll just say that I observationally get a lot more consistent spin from different lies. I love to hear it…consensus seems to be a lot better spin and control. I’m desperately hoping for some better weather so I can hit the practice green at the local course and get some better video. So far all I can really offer is feel and first impressions which is OK. I’m really excited for more tangible results and data TJ Hall, William P, Leonvdwesthuizen and 6 others 9 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) Ok…ready for a data dump… I spent today at the range with my daughter who btw…was just crushing it. I am so proud of her progress but that’s for another thread on another day I broke my data points into 5 segments. Full swings: 50* S159 & SM8 Full swings: 59* S159 & 60* SM9 50% pitch swings with S159 50* Side by side, the distances are about where I expect to be. I don’t hit my irons and wedges very far. I get more control out of my 50* which is why it gets most the work inside 100 yards. These are early season range balls and I don’t believe they’re telling the complete story on distance but it’s close. I am typically 105-115 with a 50* wedge. I’m about 75-85 yards with a lob wedge so also, within margins. My biggest takeaway…dispersion on the 50* Vokey right now is clearly better. The odd thing is, I feel more confident standing over the new S159’s. As I get more and more reps, I will want to compare this data and look for some improvements. The Lob wedge numbers are super close which was nice to see. The 50 is definitely a surprise to me and not the results I expected. Edited April 6 by bens197 Shrek74, TJ Hall, William P and 5 others 5 3 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I never paid much attention to launch angle numbers on irons or wedges. Seeing first hand these launches well above the optimal 30* is really eye opening. I knew I lost distance on my irons and have a history of releasing earlier than I should. This validates that thought. Regardless. Without this opportunity I may have looked beyond the numbers for my wedge play. This is a convenient solution to another problem. . HikingMike, William P, Shrek74 and 5 others 8 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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