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The correct etiquette is whatever the course's policy is. I check when playing at any course that I'm unfamiliar with.

 

 

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We have signs on our course to direct carts back to the cart path. They are moved on a regular basis but never allow carts closer that the apron. Even the carts that have handicap signs are not allowed on the green.

 

 

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The correct etiquette is whatever the course's policy is. I check when playing at any course that I'm unfamiliar with.

 

 

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... Clearly in Australia you DGAF about the game. And your greenskeepers DGAF about the game. Even though you probably repair your ball mark and another on every green, replace your divots and take your hat off and shake hands at the end of the round.  ;)  

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... Clearly in Australia you DGAF about the game. And your greenskeepers DGAF about the game. Even though you probably repair your ball mark and another on every green, replace your divots and take your hat off and shake hands at the end of the round. ;)

Well if you're going to quote me at least get it right. This is not an issue restricted to Australia, it's a global epidemic of DGAF's led by people like Lexi who go beyond carts to manipulating the rules as they see fit.

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Don't ask yourself "can I bring my cart on the green?" Ask yourself "should I bring my cart on the green?" That answer is no.

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No no no no no no, all for fast play but still don't like that at all.

 

 

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My club, along with probably a majority in Victoria (including top level courses like Kingston Heath) actually direct players to wheel their carts across the green, rather than around the green on the fringe.

According to the green keepers, it has minimal impact on the greens, and greatly reduces the wear on fringes. The wear is attributed to feet, rather than cart wheels.

The pressure from a cart wheel is much less than through an average size mans foot.

 

I've seen our head greenkeeper go off at members for not going across the green, but around the fringe.

 

Just to clarify, this applies only to push carts. (sorry for quoting myself, wanted to keep the context clear)

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Don't ask yourself "can I bring my cart on the green?" Ask yourself "should I bring my cart on the green?" That answer is no.

The green can take the 400lbs+ weight of the mower and roller on the daily basis, I don't think I'd worry about the weight damage to the green. It's the my $h!t don't stink attitude that gets me sometime. If they gonna do it, then do it, don't ask for acceptance or validation.

 

I make a point to not get bothered by people stepping on my line, and it does not one bit. I figured that as recent as the group in front of me other players just walk/squad right over my ball making this nice foot impression that line me up to the hole.

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I have never seen anyone at my club take a push cart onto a green.  Lucky, I guess.  I don't think it would hurt our greens anyway; they are very firm.  Our club allows power carts up by the greens and on tee boxes, but you have to get a blue flag to attach to your cart.  There are actually quite a few people that play every day with the blue flags, and I have never seen any damage to grass around the greens or tees.

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I play with a guy who pushes his cart across the green whenever it may be convenient—in the name of fast play to the next tee.

 

I don't necessarily have a problem with it. Clicgear wheels are wide and smooth. A foot step from a 200 lb guy likely makes a deeper depression. Plus there are always people with aggressive "soft spikes" who don't know how to walk and tear things up.

 

But it still always gives me pause. I guess I was just raised to push the cart around the green and I still push it in such a way as to be closest to the next tee.

 

Anyone else cross the green?

 

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No! Not acceptable in my book. I give about 10yds of buffer around greens. I've played with guys who go over the fringe with their cart but never through one.

 

 

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So this happens on my "home course" last year. I believe the driver of the Ford F-250 Dually had a hit out on him. The green still hasn't recovered.

 

I really like the idea of walking only courses.

 

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Greens that have been damaged take a long, long time to heal. What if someone were to cause damage to the green due to their push cart? Just don't risk it.

 

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To be clear, I am only talking about crossing the green (with their push cart) in the interest of fast play to the next tee. If someone were to park their pusher right next to their ball on the green and putt out I would probably say something. That would be a site to see.

 

Has anyone tried to push across some part of the green since reading this thread? Just try it and report back your findings. 

 

Going by the response from some of you, I can just picture the mental struggle...

"OK, OK, I'm gonna do it... (inhale, pause) Here goes..."

"Nah, I can't do it! Next hole... Maybe"

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I couldn't do it because my Momma would have spanked my pants off.   That's a kin to riding a bicycle across someone's grave site....  :blink:  Is it gonna hurt the person under ground?  Nawwww I don't think so however it's a respect thang. 

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I couldn't do it because my Momma would have spanked my pants off.   That's a kin to riding a bicycle across someone's grave site....  :blink:

 

Fair enough. But my Momma raised me to ask why. Why no carts on greens? For what purpose? Why is it so bad when it clearly does less damage than my foot step?

 

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To be clear, I am only talking about crossing the green (with their push cart) in the interest of fast play to the next tee. If someone were to park their pusher right next to their ball on the green and putt out I would probably say something. That would be a site to see.

 

Has anyone tried to push across some part of the green since reading this thread? Just try it and report back your findings. 

 

Going by the response from some of you, I can just picture the mental struggle...

"OK, OK, I'm gonna do it... (inhale, pause) Here goes..."

"Nah, I can't do it! Next hole... Maybe"

Never thought to try.

 

What pace were you playing that required your partner to push the cart across the green to make up time. It's such an inappropriate action in the interest of fast play.

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Fair enough. But my Momma raised me to ask why. Why no carts on greens? For what purpose? Why is it so bad when it clearly does less damage than my foot step?

 

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It's not superstitious to not roll the cart across the green, just inappropriate gesture.

 

Why not? The same reason golfers don't use other clubs except putter or hover wedge to make the stroke on the green to avoid making ground contact. Clearly there's no rule against that. I can recall many situations I'd ended in a better spot than using putter.

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I read last year that one should/could push the cart across the green. 40 pounds spread across three fat wheels isn't going to affect the green as much as a 160 lb man standing on two feet, and it saves time to speed up pace of play. Okay. Did it twice and one of the owners asked me not to do it anymore. That ended that. Like others i wouldn't even carry my bag across the green. Tried it with push cart at the suggestion of internet posters, and had it quickly shut down. What is good etiquette seems to be different from place to place i guess.

 

 

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I read last year that one should/could push the cart across the green. 40 pounds spread across three fat wheels isn't going to affect the green as much as a 160 lb man standing on two feet, and it saves time to speed up pace of play. Okay. Did it twice and one of the owners asked me not to do it anymore. That ended that. Like others i wouldn't even carry my bag across the green. Tried it with push cart at the suggestion of internet posters, and had it quickly shut down. What is good etiquette seems to be different from place to place i guess.

 

 

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Not all push cart wheels are "fat" and many have tread. They leave distinct marks on the fairway especially when damp. They can and would leave impression in the green under wet conditions.

 

 

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Fair enough. But my Momma raised me to ask why. Why no carts on greens? For what purpose? Why is it so bad when it clearly does less damage than my foot step?

 

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It's a take care of what is not yours type of thing.  You respect others property and although the walking cart bag puller thing probably weighs less than a nats arse it's a respect thing.  

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Not all push cart wheels are "fat" and many have tread. They leave distinct marks on the fairway especially when damp. They can and would leave impression in the green under wet conditions.

 

 

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Yeah, mine are fat and smooth.

 

 

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Even if a groundskeeper told me to walk my push cart across a green, I'd cringe the entire time. We were always taught to stay off the green at all costs. I walk around it when possible. That's gonna be a hard habit to break.

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Yeah, same here. Occasionally, if my group is a little behind, and the putting green is really large, I'll carry my bag across it (I never use push carts, and always spikeless shoes ). I always feel guilty, though...

 

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Yeah, same here. Occasionally, if my group is a little behind, and the putting green is really large, I'll carry my bag across it (I never use push carts, and always spikeless shoes ). I always feel guilty, though...

 

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I forgot to mention that I have only done that about twice.

 

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