cnosil Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 These were 5-10 yard soft flops. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. As you can see clubface is wide openGetting into semantics but you are still more carry than roll which is pitch. I find that 9:00 swings are much easier than the shorter chip shots. My fat and thins start when I am 8:00 or less. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Getting into semantics but you are still more carry than roll which is pitch. I find that 9:00 swings are much easier than the shorter chip shots. My fat and thins start when I am 8:00 or less. These are flop shots. They are not chip shots. sorry if was not clear about that. I was just trying to illustrate the use of the body and rotation in playing short game shotsSent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app cksurfdude 1 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, gaussman1 said: My stance is open and narrow with ball up. That seems to make it easier for me to hit sort of "turn-turn" chips and pitches. And I stand pretty tall instead of bending way over the ball. Even flops I play this way. These are from a practice session hitting about 5 yard softies last summer. Still photos aren't super useful but it does show how much turn I'm using on such a short shot. For me the key is softness in the hands and arms on both sides of the ball and turn turn. Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Thats very helpful thanks- posting the video would be even more helpful if possible? Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said: Thats very helpful thanks- posting the video would be even more helpful if possible? Of course. These are flops not chip shots but I think do a decent job of showing the arms and hands responding to the turning of the body on both sides of the ball. Even for a shot like this I'm not standing wide or striking hard with the hands and arms perseveringgolfer 1 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: As you cannot touch the ball until it's on the green this could prove difficult Agree - but in practice you can certainly use it. Switch the mindset to a specific dimple just to get that concentration. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I am not going to post it, but if you google Justin Rose on chipping he goes over Phil’s and Seve’s techniques. I use Seve’s obviously. The thing I see the most problems with in us Am’s is that whole “hitting down” on the ball. That drives me nuts, the ball needs to be behind your low point to hit down with a descending blow, as I’ve said in other threads I see people just smack straight down on the ball.Ball on the backside of your swing arc. I am not a pro, but chipping, pitching and the short game is the best part of my game. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:52 AM, JudgeSmails said: Get on Phil Mickelsons instagram....he has been posting short game tips every week. I'd certainly take his word over mine 100% on the above. I have been following and his stuff is amazing. I had a very good short game before but hearing his 3 fundamentals and then his shot determination has helped in the last few weeks. Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, gaussman1 said: These were 5-10 yard soft flops. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. As you can see clubface is wide open And for someone who is struggling with chipping these same 5-10 yard flops are 50-60 yard blade jobs. , been there. The most simple chipping technique for someone who is struggling is to putt the ball with a PW or 9i. Set up square with the club upright (heel off the ground), and putt it with a bit of loft. That’s it. It is very simple, takes all thinking out. This is not how I normally chip the ball. If I am struggling it is what I go to until I get the feel back. cksurfdude, Kenny B, ole gray and 2 others 5 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Vijay chips cross-handed (left hand low). Did it on 17 at the Honda. I heard a putting teaching once say the best way to correct your yips was to just change your grip. Changes your motor patterns completely. cksurfdude 1 Quote Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarRed Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 This is what my Dad taught me. He played on a national title team at Houston in the 1950s. He learned this from his roommate Phil Rodgers. On a flat lie within say 5-6 yards of the green, first determine how many yards to carry onto the green. This is your "carry" length. Then determine how many yards of from the carry spot to the pin. This is your "roll" length. Divide Roll by Carry. Subtract from 11. This is the iron to use. Use it as a putting stroke from that distance. The shaft is more vertical like a putter, so play it off the toe. I also choke up and hold the club where I would hold a putter. Example. 3 yards of carry. 15 yards of roll. 15/3 = 5 11-5 = 6 iron Hit a 48 foot "putt" with your 6 iron. The ball should carry about 9-10 feet in the air and start rolling. Adjust for green speed, uphill, downhill etc. If the example was downhill, I might use an 8 iron. Because while I need 15 yards of roll, my aim target is only 9 yards of roll due to the speed of the green. 9/3 = 3. 11-3 = 8. cksurfdude, ole gray and downlowkey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 And for someone who is struggling with chipping these same 5-10 yard flops are 50-60 yard blade jobs. , been there. The most simple chipping technique for someone who is struggling is to putt the ball with a PW or 9i. Set up square with the club upright (heel off the ground), and putt it with a bit of loft. That’s it. It is very simple, takes all thinking out. This is not how I normally chip the ball. If I am struggling it is what I go to until I get the feel back. Goff stuff here. Where is the ball positioned?Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ole gray said: Goff stuff here. Where is the ball positioned? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I Usually position the ball similar to a putt. Sort of middle, but you could play it back. This technique will also put some spin on the ball, mostly because you make ball first contact, so if it is a clean lie, it may check up, but the general idea is to get the ball moving toward the hole. cksurfdude and ole gray 2 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, CougarRed said: This is what my Dad taught me. He played on a national title team at Houston in the 1950s. He learned this from his roommate Phil Rodgers. On a flat lie within say 5-6 yards of the green, first determine how many yards to carry onto the green. This is your "carry" length. Then determine how many yards of from the carry spot to the pin. This is your "roll" length. Divide Roll by Carry. Subtract from 11. This is the iron to use. Use it as a putting stroke from that distance. The shaft is more vertical like a putter, so play it off the toe. I also choke up and hold the club where I would hold a putter. Example. 3 yards of carry. 15 yards of roll. 15/3 = 5 11-5 = 6 iron Hit a 48 foot "putt" with your 6 iron. The ball should carry about 9-10 feet in the air and start rolling. Adjust for green speed, uphill, downhill etc. If the example was downhill, I might use an 8 iron. Because while I need 15 yards of roll, my aim target is only 9 yards of roll due to the speed of the green. 9/3 = 3. 11-3 = 8. That is a lot of math. Sounds interesting. I suppose if you get used to the numbers, it becomes natural and a quick process. For someone struggling though this could be too much to contemplate, but it seems like a concept. cksurfdude 1 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 4 hours ago, CougarRed said: This is what my Dad taught me. He played on a national title team at Houston in the 1950s. He learned this from his roommate Phil Rodgers. On a flat lie within say 5-6 yards of the green, first determine how many yards to carry onto the green. This is your "carry" length. Then determine how many yards of from the carry spot to the pin. This is your "roll" length. Divide Roll by Carry. Subtract from 11. This is the iron to use. Use it as a putting stroke from that distance. The shaft is more vertical like a putter, so play it off the toe. I also choke up and hold the club where I would hold a putter. Example. 3 yards of carry. 15 yards of roll. 15/3 = 5 11-5 = 6 iron Hit a 48 foot "putt" with your 6 iron. The ball should carry about 9-10 feet in the air and start rolling. Adjust for green speed, uphill, downhill etc. If the example was downhill, I might use an 8 iron. Because while I need 15 yards of roll, my aim target is only 9 yards of roll due to the speed of the green. 9/3 = 3. 11-3 = 8. is that YOU Sheldon Cooper? cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf. S Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 When I get problems with my chipping I practise with no weight on my right foot at all. Keeps lower body out of the shot. If it is a tight lie I will tend to let the left arm dominate and nip it ball then turf a little back in my stance. Flop right hand dominates with ball pretty much off the left toe ole gray, cksurfdude, perseveringgolfer and 1 other 4 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 11:20 AM, juspoole said: This is an odd one but it came from Michael breed and is all about contact. It’s extremely simple but effective. Concentrate on the front part of the ball during your chip. I like to put the logo facing the target and just look at the logo. It’s so simple but it really works well and gives more consistent contact On 3/4/2019 at 11:26 AM, perseveringgolfer said: As you cannot touch the ball until it's on the green this could prove difficult Of course! ..but the idea of the exercise is to focus on a spot on the front side of the ball, or you can pick a spot on the ground just in front of the ball to focus on and swing over. Another method to help with low point control. Kenny B, cnosil and ole gray 3 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 4:39 PM, Kor.A.Door said: The most simple chipping technique for someone who is struggling is to putt the ball with a PW or 9i. Set up square with the club upright (heel off the ground), and putt it with a bit of loft. Yes! Call it a "chip-putt" (or a "putt-chip" if you like) and you can do it with almost any club - including a hybrid or even a fairway - and the technique can be really helpful getting out of a bad/messy lie near the green, and just getting the ball up onto the green. ole gray and Kenny B 2 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 5:21 PM, Alf. S said: When I get problems with my chipping I practise with no weight on my right foot at all. Keeps lower body out of the shot. If it is a tight lie I will tend to let the left arm dominate and nip it ball then turf a little back in my stance. James Sieckmann promotes that when close to the green on a tight lie - all arms, stay still and let the clubhead drop onto the back of the ball .. and then a little follow-through. Kenny B 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, cksurfdude said: Yes! Call it a "chip-putt" (or a "putt-chip" if you like) and you can do it with almost any club - including a hybrid or even a fairway - and the technique can be really helpful getting out of a bad/messy lie near the green, and just getting the ball up onto the green. My course has a lot of grassy mounds all over the course; some holes have them behind or to the side of greens. They make chipping difficult, especially when the hole is close. It probably depends on your grass, but this method works for me on this shot. 6 feet of grass on a downhill lie to the green with hole 10 feet on. A teaching pro showed me this shot with a wedge; stand close to the ball, shaft vertical, use a putting stroke. He holed it! The key is knowing how the ball reacts when it lands on the grass, and that takes some practice. Practicing that shot has to happen on the course. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 I've tried all these techniques - thank you all for the excellent input - some worked miracles for a day, others crashed and burned on takeoff. The 'all your weight on lead foot' style just isnt working for me and feels so awkward. I'm a feel type of player with fundamentals first. However, in my searching I found a drill online that is showing tremendous promise, so far. I can stand naturally and play the ball naturally in the centre of my narrow open stance, then the flight is down to the loft on the club. Its reminiscent of the way I chipped as a young man so I'll stick with the drills and report back if it lasts longer than a day lol MattF 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I think another thing to remember is not to get mad because the ball is not close to the pin. Remember when you are struggling, the object is to get the ball on the green first. when that is very comfortable then you should try to get the ball close, baby steps, you can’t go from struggling to perfect every time with a simple tip, you have to take it one shot at a time. Some of the tips are meant to get the ball moving in the direction of the green, and in time you can learn to control that shot, and get it to do what you want it to do . Kenny B, cnosil and MattF 3 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Kor.A.Door said: I think another thing to remember is not to get mad because the ball is not close to the pin. Remember when you are struggling, the object is to get the ball on the green first. when that is very comfortable then you should try to get the ball close, baby steps, you can’t go from struggling to perfect every time with a simple tip, you have to take it one shot at a time. Some of the tips are meant to get the ball moving in the direction of the green, and in time you can learn to control that shot, and get it to do what you want it to do . I never get mad on the course, disappointed yes, mad no. the 'new' drill just ensured proper connection, so I actually did chip very well all to between 2-8 feet (even putted a couple of these chips in lol). I used to be very good at chipping, this just awakened that 'feel'. cnosil 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 10 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: I never get mad on the course, disappointed yes, mad no. the 'new' drill just ensured proper connection, so I actually did chip very well all to between 2-8 feet (even putted a couple of these chips in lol). I used to be very good at chipping, this just awakened that 'feel'. Yes. Disappointed or frustrated would be better used there Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildthing Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Here's another technique (not a bad website for learning golf basics and terminology). https://golf-info-guide.com/video-golf-tips/should-i-hinge-my-wrists-more-when-chipping-at-golf-video/ But as soon as one finds someone who discounts one method (ie. wrist flipping) , there is always another golfer who excelled in it (see Count Yogi's style below - the complete opposite). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5yHmlHSAsg And here's another few: Ben Hogan Chipping style (the description of how to do it is at the end of the video) There seems to be a variety of chipping opinions : 1. Restrict wrist movement to improve a theoretically opinionated technique . But no real detail of 'how' to perform the stroke (ie. from a biomechanics perspective). 2. Allow natural wrist movement (again no details on the 'how' to perform the stroke) 3. A mix of both How about focusing on your intended outcome and just letting your body find the best way to meet that intent? Is that a worthwhile proposition or will 'fear' just creep in and short circuit everything? Edited May 7, 2019 by Wildthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooremikea Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 One thing that helped me last year is to chip with one club all of the time. For me that was my 58 with three trajectories, high, medium and low. The low was no where near as low as chipping with a pitching wedge but it would still release and run. Technically it would be much better to chip with 4 or 5 clubs using the minimum loft that the shot requires. I never put in the time to get a feel for how far 2 or 3 wedges go let alone 5. Practicing with one club and three trajectories was much more manageable. Practice chipping with 3 balls and for each target do one ball medium (stock shot), high and then low. It does not take too much time to get used to how far each of these shots go with different length back swings. Quote Driver - Ping G410 Plus 10.5 - Ping Tour 65 Stiff 4 Wood - Callaway Rogue - Project X Evenflow blue 6.0 Hybrids - Titleist 818 H2 - 3(c-1) and 4(c-4) - Tensei CK Blue 70 stiff Irons - Callaway Apex CF 16 5-AW - True Temper XP 95 Steel Stiff Wedges - Ping Glide 54 SS, 58 TS Putter - Edel e1 Torque balanced Indianapolis 5.5 Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 This one is excellent! Sluggo42 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildthing Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 And yet we have 2 of the greatest players suggesting the opposites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye64 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 And yet we have 2 of the greatest players suggesting the opposites. [/url] The Nicklaus technique is something I have been using for years and completely eliminated hitting it fat or thin. Plus, just as he holed that chip, I do it almost every round. It baffles me that this is now taught more or... more pros dont do it today. So many people are in love with trying to flop it into the hole or close. Me,,, I want a chance to roll it on on every missed green, not just get it close. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk MattF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Strangelove Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I tried Phil's Hinge and Hold method before. I never understood what it is that you are supposed to "hold." Can someone clear this up? It can't be the wrist cock can it? Quote G410 plus driver,Aeroburner 3W, F6 Baffler XR 4, 5 hybrids 2021 T300 6 - GW, SW irons Mack Daddy CB 58/12 wedge Axis1 Rose putter Alternates: Srixon ZX4 MKII irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I tried Phil's Hinge and Hold method before. I never understood what it is that you are supposed to "hold." Can someone clear this up? It can't be the wrist cock can it?Yes. Very difficult to master unless you have 8+ hours a day to practice. cnosil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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