Popular Post Thin2win Posted April 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2019 All the conversations, blog posts and videos about getting the exact shaft to fit you /your driver in the last year prompted me to schedule a club champion fitting for a driver shaft. I wrote a forum post about that process, and it was a great experience, but here, I wanted to follow up on the outcome. I got my first 18 in with my newly shafted driver yesterday. I played the Dormie Club outside Pinehurst. Spectacular place, fun course. Even more fun, hitting 10 straight fairways to start. The Ventus shaft is amazingly stable, off center hits find the fairway and shots that I expected to fade into the rough hold the fairway instead. I can't say that it is the shaft for everyone, but it is definitely the shaft for me, I've never hit 10 fairways in a row, I might not even hit 10 in two rounds combined. It was fun walking into the box and picking out exact landing spots and then hitting them. Just a blast. bens197, hckymeyer, chisag and 10 others 13 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chershey Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I played 18 yesterday with my Club Champion fitted shaft, Accra TZ5, and saw similar results. It was one of the best driving days I've ever had. It's definitely worth the investment to get fitted. Thin2win, PMookie and cksurfdude 3 Quote Titleist TS3 9.5* w/Accra TZ5 65 X-Stiff Titleist TS3 15* w/Fujikura Ventus 7X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 20* w/Accra TZ5 95X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 23* w/Accra TZ5 95X Titleist 718 CB 5 iron w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist 718 MB 6-PW w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist SM7 Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Bettinardi Queen B 10 34.5" Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puttingmatt Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 This shaft will be in my bag this year, To much good info and results from everything that I have encountered. Have to be fit, but will Have one. cksurfdude and PMookie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The Ventus is great.. I love Fuji products. cksurfdude and PMookie 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus1412 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This shaft is phenomenal!Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk cksurfdude and PMookie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I wonder if the shaft makeup or the bend profile is what makes this shaft excel? I wonder if they can put the Velocore in other bend profiles such as the Evo line? cksurfdude 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 No idea, but 9 months later. I only like this shaft more and more. I've switched to hitting slight fades with it after years of a power draw. Previously, when I'd try a fade, I would get one, but 5 yards or 75 yards were options. This has allowed me to play a 5-10 yard fade as my go to shot on drives over the last few months. It's just so good. PMookie, Fujikura Golf and cksurfdude 3 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 hours ago, 03trdblack said: I wonder if the shaft makeup or the bend profile is what makes this shaft excel? I wonder if they can put the Velocore in other bend profiles such as the Evo line? It’s the shaft make up with the materials used and how it’s layered on and at what angle. To my understanding Velocore is just a product name for marketing what they are doing with the design. They used two different types of carbon fiber, one being “stiffer”’ than t110g. they could put it in any shaft but we have to remember they are in the business of making products and like every shaft company have different lines designed to do different things so doing the samething in another line defeats the purpose of having a velocore line. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I don't know, the way Fujikura puts out shafts I'm fully expecting to see the "Fujikura Ventus Motore Speeder Vista Atmos Pro 2.0 661 TR Evolution 12 Tour Spec XLR8 with Triax" any day now. chisag, Thin2win and cksurfdude 2 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, 03trdblack said: I don't know, the way Fujikura puts out shafts I'm fully expecting to see the "Fujikura Ventus Motore Speeder Vista Atmos Pro 2.0 661 TR Evolution 12 Tour Spec XLR8 with Triax" any day now. If that comes in a black theme I'll get one. Fujikura Golf, cksurfdude and 03trdblack 2 1 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartrick11 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 +1 for the Ventus. It has substantially reduced my left-right dispersion with the driver. It is so stable, but I can still feel the club loading, nothing like the HZRDUS black that I struggled with for a while. I need to save up to get it in my 3w as well... cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 +1 for the Ventus. It has substantially reduced my left-right dispersion with the driver. It is so stable, but I can still feel the club loading, nothing like the HZRDUS black that I struggled with for a while. I need to save up to get it in my 3w as well...Can you tell me more about the technical differences between the Ventus and HZRDUS for you? Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartrick11 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Technical differences? Not sure I'm your man there haha. I don't know much other than what is on the spec sheets when it comes to the technical aspects... but I can try to better describe how it translated to my swing if that helps. https://fujikuragolf.com/ventus https://www.truetemper.com/products/hzrdus-black/ The HZRDUS feels like re-bar all the way down. My swing speed is in the 108-110 range with an aggressive transition. The 75g 6.5 shaft was too much for me to consistently handle (the 6.0, or the lighter 6.5 would be the better choice from that lineup for my swing). Some days I could cook with it, other days I was all over the place. I had cut down on my left misses for the most part compared to earlier drivers (had mostly been buying stiff shafts off the rack pre-MGS enlightenment and fought both pull hooks and over-cooked draws), but dispersion was an issue. Ventus (blue 6x is what I have) is softer up by the grip, way softer than the HZRDUS, for me, that translated into more "feel" of the club loading in the backswing (think AD-DI but not quite that soft). But it has a super stiff tip, which made it feel stable and resisted rotating (for me at least). It is just easier for me to square up, and misses seem to gently ease left or right, rather than really spin way off line. My ball speed from my f8+ with the HZRDUS to my Epic Flash SZ with the Ventus has gone from ~155-158mph to ~158-161, and much tighter dispersion. Hope that helps, but LMK if you had other specific questions. Fujikura Golf and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Technical differences? Not sure I'm your man there haha. I don't know much other than what is on the spec sheets when it comes to the technical aspects... but I can try to better describe how it translated to my swing if that helps. https://fujikuragolf.com/ventus https://www.truetemper.com/products/hzrdus-black/ The HZRDUS feels like re-bar all the way down. My swing speed is in the 108-110 range with an aggressive transition. The 75g 6.5 shaft was too much for me to consistently handle (the 6.0, or the lighter 6.5 would be the better choice from that lineup for my swing). Some days I could cook with it, other days I was all over the place. I had cut down on my left misses for the most part compared to earlier drivers (had mostly been buying stiff shafts off the rack pre-MGS enlightenment and fought both pull hooks and over-cooked draws), but dispersion was an issue. Ventus (blue 6x is what I have) is softer up by the grip, way softer than the HZRDUS, for me, that translated into more "feel" of the club loading in the backswing (think AD-DI but not quite that soft). But it has a super stiff tip, which made it feel stable and resisted rotating (for me at least). It is just easier for me to square up, and misses seem to gently ease left or right, rather than really spin way off line. My ball speed from my f8+ with the HZRDUS to my Epic Flash SZ with the Ventus has gone from ~155-158mph to ~158-161, and much tighter dispersion. Hope that helps, but LMK if you had other specific questions.I’m close to you in tempo and SS. When I was getting fit for my driver, HZRDUS yellow was best for me. Averaged about 110-114ss, ball speeds were upper 160’s and spin was low 2’s. The fitter wanted me in a 6.5 but like you, I couldn’t turn the ball over. 6.0 in a 75g and I was pleased. I’m not upset with my setup but I’m super curious about all this Ventus talk. The subjective helps but having some tech specs would help me decide if it’s worth digging in and going for it. You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. Thanks cksurfdude 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bens197 said: Can you tell me more about the technical differences between the Ventus and HZRDUS for you? For me, HZRDUS felt like a 2x4. I had no feel for it. VENTUS feels just like the fujikura Pro, but with much tighter dispersion. That was a very technical answer cksurfdude 1 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, bens197 said: You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. 33% off until the end of the month bens197 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 For me, HZRDUS felt like a 2x4. I had no feel for it. VENTUS feels just like the fujikura Pro, but with much tighter dispersion. That was a very technical answer Works Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, bens197 said: I’m close to you in tempo and SS. When I was getting fit for my driver, HZRDUS yellow was best for me. Averaged about 110-114ss, ball speeds were upper 160’s and spin was low 2’s. The fitter wanted me in a 6.5 but like you, I couldn’t turn the ball over. 6.0 in a 75g and I was pleased. I’m not upset with my setup but I’m super curious about all this Ventus talk. The subjective helps but having some tech specs would help me decide if it’s worth digging in and going for it. You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. Thanks Hzrdus yellow and ventus have completely different profiles and depending what ventus you are looking at would be a different launch profile. Ventus offers low, mid and mid high launch where the yellow is a low launch. hzrdus yellow is a counterbalanced shaft where ventus has an accelerated taper and is very tip stiff. do you have the original hzrdus yellow or the smoke yellow? These have slightly different profiles with the smoke having a stiffer midsection than the og hzrdus yellow each of the websites has the specs bens197 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Hzrdus yellow and ventus have completely different profiles and depending what ventus you are looking at would be a different launch profile. Ventus offers low, mid and mid high launch where the yellow is a low launch. hzrdus yellow is a counterbalanced shaft where ventus has an accelerated taper and is very tip stiff. do you have the original hzrdus yellow or the smoke yellow? These have slightly different profiles with the smoke having a stiffer midsection than the og hzrdus yellow each of the websites has the specs From what I’m reading, very different is a fair assessment. I was fit 2 years ago for my LST with the original, non-handcrafted. All I’ve ever played were “boardy” shafts. Most notably the UST ProForce75 in the 975 and 905 series heads. Mitsubishi Rayon TP 70 LT in my R7 Quad...that shaft was the best and most favorite I’ve ever played. As I get older, moving towards something with a little more “feel” as it loads up while maintaining lower spin is something that appeals to me.The websites are only so helpful, I appreciate those who spoke up and offered info. cksurfdude 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bens197 said: From what I’m reading, very different is a fair assessment. I was fit 2 years ago for my LST with the original, non-handcrafted. All I’ve ever played were “boardy” shafts. Most notably the UST ProForce75 in the 975 and 905 series heads. Mitsubishi Rayon TP 70 LT in my R7 Quad...that shaft was the best and most favorite I’ve ever played. As I get older, moving towards something with a little more “feel” as it loads up while maintaining lower spin is something that appeals to me. The websites are only so helpful, I appreciate those who spoke up and offered info. What specs are you looking for that can’t be found on the websites? Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What specs are you looking for that can’t be found on the websites?LM numbers. I’ve seen many claim tighter dispersion and those results would be easier to find by talking to players who’ve been fit into one of these. Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bens197 said: LM numbers. I’ve seen many claim tighter dispersion and those results would be easier to find by talking to players who’ve been fit into one of these. Those are going to very from golfer to golfer. Even someone with same ss and/or tempo as another will probably see different numbers. Clubhead, loft and ball are going to play factors. Theres a thread on wrx for the ventus black and another for member reviews for all 3 shafts. Those should have some on numbers cnosil 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Those are going to very from golfer to golfer. Even someone with same ss and/or tempo as another will probably see different numbers. Clubhead, loft and ball are going to play factors. Theres a thread on wrx for the ventus black and another for member reviews for all 3 shafts. Those should have some on numbersI’ll check that out, thanks. Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky CC Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, bens197 said: You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. For what it's worth I just went through a fitting at Club Champion this week and the Ventus Blue 6X beat out my Hzrdus Smoke Black shaft (stock Callaway) hands down. Spin was pretty low for both shafts but carry and total distance increased quite a bit with the Ventus. Most importantly that nice little dispersion circle shrunk with the Ventus. PMookie, bens197 and JohnSmalls 3 Quote Driver: RADSPEED 10.5°, Project X Even Flow RIPTIDE 60 6.5 Fairway Wood: Rogue ST LS 16.5°, Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 75 X 3 Hybrid: F9, LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85 X 4 Iron: Ping G410 Crossover 5-PW: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff Wedges: Jet Black 50°08F, 54°12D, 58°08M, True Temper Dynamic Gold Black S200 Putter: StrokeLab White Hot OG #7, 35", Evnroll Tourtac grip Putter2: Array F-2 Currently testing the Edel Array putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 For what it's worth I just went through a fitting at Club Champion this week and the Ventus Blue 6X beat out my Hzrdus Smoke Black shaft (stock Callaway) hands down. Spin was pretty low for both shafts but carry and total distance increased quite a bit with the Ventus. Most importantly that nice little dispersion circle shrunk with the Ventus. That’s not even close...that’s what I’m talking about! JohnSmalls 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Bucky CC said: For what it's worth I just went through a fitting at Club Champion this week and the Ventus Blue 6X beat out my Hzrdus Smoke Black shaft (stock Callaway) hands down. Spin was pretty low for both shafts but carry and total distance increased quite a bit with the Ventus. Most importantly that nice little dispersion circle shrunk with the Ventus. Were you fit for the hzrdus shaft in that head? I would be curious to see how the ventus plays out for you. 1700 spin might be great on launch monitors but that is an spin that could be no bueno on the course. Typically with lower spin like that one would want higher launch to keep the ball in the air. 1 hour ago, bens197 said: That’s not even close...that’s what I’m talking about! Most pros wouldn’t play those numbers. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Most pros wouldn’t play those numbers. We’re not pros. Also, this isn’t WRX. I was here looking for help...if you’re just going to keep throwing jabs at me I’d prefer you move along. PMookie and Bucky CC 2 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, bens197 said: We’re not pros. Also, this isn’t WRX. I was here looking for help...if you’re just going to keep throwing jabs at me I’d prefer you move along. You are right we aren’t pros and the slower we swing the more spin we need. Bucky is about 4 mph slower than the avg tour pro and is getting roughly 700rpm less that what pros look for with similar launch. low spin and more carry and total may look good on a launch monitor but may not be playable on the course. Spin is what keeps the ball in the air, hit a bad shot where spin drops off and that ball goes nowhere. theres a lot of things in a shaft and head combo that go into dispersion and launch. To each their own but looking at one persons swing numbers between two shafts only shows what the shaft will do for that person. bens197 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 You are right we aren’t pros and the slower we swing the more spin we need. Bucky is about 4 mph slower than the avg tour pro and is getting roughly 700rpm less that what pros look for with similar launch. low spin and more carry and total may look good on a launch monitor but may not be playable on the course. Spin is what keeps the ball in the air, hit a bad shot where spin drops off and that ball goes nowhere. theres a lot of things in a shaft and head combo that go into dispersion and launch. To each their own but looking at one persons swing numbers between two shafts only shows what the shaft will do for that person. Thanks for clarifying. Finding that sweet spot of optimal launch and spin is definitely a case by case basis. This is what I’m learning from those of you who are well read and experienced on this subject. Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, bens197 said: Thanks for clarifying. Finding that sweet spot of optimal launch and spin is definitely a case by case basis. This is what I’m learning from those of you who are well read and experienced on this subject. That’s where a good fitting comes into play. The truth is that if one is properly fit for shaft and head combo an aftermarket shaft isn’t going to make a world of difference in launch numbers. So many read low launch and/or low spin shaft and think that it’s going to lower their numbers but thousands of rpms or significant launch angle. I’ve had the pleasure to meet and spend time with the brains behind some shaft companies and they have all said a shaft isn’t going to drop 1000 rpm regardless if it’s profile. the shaft can influence how one delivers the club which will improve swing path and delivery this influencing launch numbers but the shaft itself won’t change numbers drastically. there is a lot of hype around the ventus and it’s a great shaft but so is the graphite design ad, Accra tz5/6, ust attas line and the lin-q. I’ve swung several in the same head and other than feel the numbers weren’t significantly different bens197 and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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