Popular Post Thin2win 1,695 Posted April 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2019 All the conversations, blog posts and videos about getting the exact shaft to fit you /your driver in the last year prompted me to schedule a club champion fitting for a driver shaft. I wrote a forum post about that process, and it was a great experience, but here, I wanted to follow up on the outcome. I got my first 18 in with my newly shafted driver yesterday. I played the Dormie Club outside Pinehurst. Spectacular place, fun course. Even more fun, hitting 10 straight fairways to start. The Ventus shaft is amazingly stable, off center hits find the fairway and shots that I expected to fade into the rough hold the fairway instead. I can't say that it is the shaft for everyone, but it is definitely the shaft for me, I've never hit 10 fairways in a row, I might not even hit 10 in two rounds combined. It was fun walking into the box and picking out exact landing spots and then hitting them. Just a blast. 13 Quote WITB: Driver: G400Max, 10.5° Fujikura Ventus 6s FW Wood: F7 17.5° Utility: King Forged 19.5° Utility Irons: D7 Forged GW-5i Wedges: 56° Putter: ER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75" Cart: Onewheel XR+ Link to post Share on other sites
chershey 600 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I played 18 yesterday with my Club Champion fitted shaft, Accra TZ5, and saw similar results. It was one of the best driving days I've ever had. It's definitely worth the investment to get fitted. 3 Quote Titleist TS3 9.5* w/Accra TZ5 65 X-Stiff Titleist TS3 15* w/Fujikura Ventus 7X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 20* w/Accra TZ5 95X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 23* w/Accra TZ5 95X Titleist 718 CB 5 iron w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist 718 MB 6-PW w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist SM7 Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Bettinardi Queen B 10 34.5" Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-X Link to post Share on other sites
Puttingmatt 31 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 This shaft will be in my bag this year, To much good info and results from everything that I have encountered. Have to be fit, but will Have one. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quigleyd 652 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The Ventus is great.. I love Fuji products. 2 Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to post Share on other sites
Jus1412 99 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This shaft is phenomenal!Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03trdblack 745 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I wonder if the shaft makeup or the bend profile is what makes this shaft excel? I wonder if they can put the Velocore in other bend profiles such as the Evo line? 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to post Share on other sites
Thin2win 1,695 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 No idea, but 9 months later. I only like this shaft more and more. I've switched to hitting slight fades with it after years of a power draw. Previously, when I'd try a fade, I would get one, but 5 yards or 75 yards were options. This has allowed me to play a 5-10 yard fade as my go to shot on drives over the last few months. It's just so good. 3 Quote WITB: Driver: G400Max, 10.5° Fujikura Ventus 6s FW Wood: F7 17.5° Utility: King Forged 19.5° Utility Irons: D7 Forged GW-5i Wedges: 56° Putter: ER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75" Cart: Onewheel XR+ Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 4,780 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 hours ago, 03trdblack said: I wonder if the shaft makeup or the bend profile is what makes this shaft excel? I wonder if they can put the Velocore in other bend profiles such as the Evo line? It’s the shaft make up with the materials used and how it’s layered on and at what angle. To my understanding Velocore is just a product name for marketing what they are doing with the design. They used two different types of carbon fiber, one being “stiffer”’ than t110g. they could put it in any shaft but we have to remember they are in the business of making products and like every shaft company have different lines designed to do different things so doing the samething in another line defeats the purpose of having a velocore line. 1 Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
03trdblack 745 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I don't know, the way Fujikura puts out shafts I'm fully expecting to see the "Fujikura Ventus Motore Speeder Vista Atmos Pro 2.0 661 TR Evolution 12 Tour Spec XLR8 with Triax" any day now. 2 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to post Share on other sites
Thin2win 1,695 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, 03trdblack said: I don't know, the way Fujikura puts out shafts I'm fully expecting to see the "Fujikura Ventus Motore Speeder Vista Atmos Pro 2.0 661 TR Evolution 12 Tour Spec XLR8 with Triax" any day now. If that comes in a black theme I'll get one. 2 1 Quote WITB: Driver: G400Max, 10.5° Fujikura Ventus 6s FW Wood: F7 17.5° Utility: King Forged 19.5° Utility Irons: D7 Forged GW-5i Wedges: 56° Putter: ER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75" Cart: Onewheel XR+ Link to post Share on other sites
hartrick11 512 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 +1 for the Ventus. It has substantially reduced my left-right dispersion with the driver. It is so stable, but I can still feel the club loading, nothing like the HZRDUS black that I struggled with for a while. I need to save up to get it in my 3w as well... 1 Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway: TSi 2 15* w/ Graphite Design AD IX 7X Hybrid: 818H2 19* w/ Tensei White 90 Utility: GAPR LO 19* w/Tensei White 90 Irons: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130 Wedges: SM7 54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 5,857 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 +1 for the Ventus. It has substantially reduced my left-right dispersion with the driver. It is so stable, but I can still feel the club loading, nothing like the HZRDUS black that I struggled with for a while. I need to save up to get it in my 3w as well...Can you tell me more about the technical differences between the Ventus and HZRDUS for you? Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Rochester, NY 5.6 Index Link to post Share on other sites
hartrick11 512 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Technical differences? Not sure I'm your man there haha. I don't know much other than what is on the spec sheets when it comes to the technical aspects... but I can try to better describe how it translated to my swing if that helps. https://fujikuragolf.com/ventus https://www.truetemper.com/products/hzrdus-black/ The HZRDUS feels like re-bar all the way down. My swing speed is in the 108-110 range with an aggressive transition. The 75g 6.5 shaft was too much for me to consistently handle (the 6.0, or the lighter 6.5 would be the better choice from that lineup for my swing). Some days I could cook with it, other days I was all over the place. I had cut down on my left misses for the most part compared to earlier drivers (had mostly been buying stiff shafts off the rack pre-MGS enlightenment and fought both pull hooks and over-cooked draws), but dispersion was an issue. Ventus (blue 6x is what I have) is softer up by the grip, way softer than the HZRDUS, for me, that translated into more "feel" of the club loading in the backswing (think AD-DI but not quite that soft). But it has a super stiff tip, which made it feel stable and resisted rotating (for me at least). It is just easier for me to square up, and misses seem to gently ease left or right, rather than really spin way off line. My ball speed from my f8+ with the HZRDUS to my Epic Flash SZ with the Ventus has gone from ~155-158mph to ~158-161, and much tighter dispersion. Hope that helps, but LMK if you had other specific questions. 2 Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway: TSi 2 15* w/ Graphite Design AD IX 7X Hybrid: 818H2 19* w/ Tensei White 90 Utility: GAPR LO 19* w/Tensei White 90 Irons: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130 Wedges: SM7 54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 5,857 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Technical differences? Not sure I'm your man there haha. I don't know much other than what is on the spec sheets when it comes to the technical aspects... but I can try to better describe how it translated to my swing if that helps. https://fujikuragolf.com/ventus https://www.truetemper.com/products/hzrdus-black/ The HZRDUS feels like re-bar all the way down. My swing speed is in the 108-110 range with an aggressive transition. The 75g 6.5 shaft was too much for me to consistently handle (the 6.0, or the lighter 6.5 would be the better choice from that lineup for my swing). Some days I could cook with it, other days I was all over the place. I had cut down on my left misses for the most part compared to earlier drivers (had mostly been buying stiff shafts off the rack pre-MGS enlightenment and fought both pull hooks and over-cooked draws), but dispersion was an issue. Ventus (blue 6x is what I have) is softer up by the grip, way softer than the HZRDUS, for me, that translated into more "feel" of the club loading in the backswing (think AD-DI but not quite that soft). But it has a super stiff tip, which made it feel stable and resisted rotating (for me at least). It is just easier for me to square up, and misses seem to gently ease left or right, rather than really spin way off line. My ball speed from my f8+ with the HZRDUS to my Epic Flash SZ with the Ventus has gone from ~155-158mph to ~158-161, and much tighter dispersion. Hope that helps, but LMK if you had other specific questions.I’m close to you in tempo and SS. When I was getting fit for my driver, HZRDUS yellow was best for me. Averaged about 110-114ss, ball speeds were upper 160’s and spin was low 2’s. The fitter wanted me in a 6.5 but like you, I couldn’t turn the ball over. 6.0 in a 75g and I was pleased. I’m not upset with my setup but I’m super curious about all this Ventus talk. The subjective helps but having some tech specs would help me decide if it’s worth digging in and going for it. You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. Thanks 1 Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Rochester, NY 5.6 Index Link to post Share on other sites
Thin2win 1,695 Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bens197 said: Can you tell me more about the technical differences between the Ventus and HZRDUS for you? For me, HZRDUS felt like a 2x4. I had no feel for it. VENTUS feels just like the fujikura Pro, but with much tighter dispersion. That was a very technical answer 1 Quote WITB: Driver: G400Max, 10.5° Fujikura Ventus 6s FW Wood: F7 17.5° Utility: King Forged 19.5° Utility Irons: D7 Forged GW-5i Wedges: 56° Putter: ER2 69°lie, 4° loft, 32.75" Cart: Onewheel XR+ Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,521 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, bens197 said: You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. 33% off until the end of the month 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 5,857 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 For me, HZRDUS felt like a 2x4. I had no feel for it. VENTUS feels just like the fujikura Pro, but with much tighter dispersion. That was a very technical answer Works Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Rochester, NY 5.6 Index Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 4,780 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, bens197 said: I’m close to you in tempo and SS. When I was getting fit for my driver, HZRDUS yellow was best for me. Averaged about 110-114ss, ball speeds were upper 160’s and spin was low 2’s. The fitter wanted me in a 6.5 but like you, I couldn’t turn the ball over. 6.0 in a 75g and I was pleased. I’m not upset with my setup but I’m super curious about all this Ventus talk. The subjective helps but having some tech specs would help me decide if it’s worth digging in and going for it. You’re showing some legit differences that justify it. If CC has a driver fitting sale in the future I’m going. Thanks Hzrdus yellow and ventus have completely different profiles and depending what ventus you are looking at would be a different launch profile. Ventus offers low, mid and mid high launch where the yellow is a low launch. hzrdus yellow is a counterbalanced shaft where ventus has an accelerated taper and is very tip stiff. do you have the original hzrdus yellow or the smoke yellow? These have slightly different profiles with the smoke having a stiffer midsection than the og hzrdus yellow each of the websites has the specs 1 Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 5,857 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Hzrdus yellow and ventus have completely different profiles and depending what ventus you are looking at would be a different launch profile. Ventus offers low, mid and mid high launch where the yellow is a low launch. hzrdus yellow is a counterbalanced shaft where ventus has an accelerated taper and is very tip stiff. do you have the original hzrdus yellow or the smoke yellow? These have slightly different profiles with the smoke having a stiffer midsection than the og hzrdus yellow each of the websites has the specs From what I’m reading, very different is a fair assessment. I was fit 2 years ago for my LST with the original, non-handcrafted. All I’ve ever played were “boardy” shafts. Most notably the UST ProForce75 in the 975 and 905 series heads. Mitsubishi Rayon TP 70 LT in my R7 Quad...that shaft was the best and most favorite I’ve ever played. As I get older, moving towards something with a little more “feel” as it loads up while maintaining lower spin is something that appeals to me.The websites are only so helpful, I appreciate those who spoke up and offered info. 1 Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Rochester, NY 5.6 Index Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 4,780 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bens197 said: From what I’m reading, very different is a fair assessment. I was fit 2 years ago for my LST with the original, non-handcrafted. All I’ve ever played were “boardy” shafts. Most notably the UST ProForce75 in the 975 and 905 series heads. Mitsubishi Rayon TP 70 LT in my R7 Quad...that shaft was the best and most favorite I’ve ever played. As I get older, moving towards something with a little more “feel” as it loads up while maintaining lower spin is something that appeals to me. The websites are only so helpful, I appreciate those who spoke up and offered info. What specs are you looking for that can’t be found on the websites? Quote Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125 Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
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