Chip Strokes Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 i wasn’t sure where to put this thread, so feel free to move it if it’s better served elsewhere. just don’t want anyone else to get burned back on 9/3 i came across a listing on OfferUp for 4 Vokey SM8 wedges in jet black finish. i already have a 56 and 60 on their way, so i asked the seller who goes by Calvin on offer up if he’d sell the 48 and 52. we settled on $230 for the two clubs shipped. he asked me to send the money via PayPal friends and family. i realize this is where i messed up. this was a thursday. i texted him friday to ask if he’d shipped them and he said he wouldn’t ship until the money hit his account. i texted him again tuesday 9/7 since that monday was Labor day. it took him until thursday 9/9 to respond to me. his first story was that work was busy and he would get things in the mail by the weekend. i texted him again saturday 9/11 and didn’t hear from him until monday 9/13. the story this time was that he was sick as a dog with a fever and the flu and couldn’t send things out, but that his mom dropped the clubs at USPS priority. when i asked him for tracking info, he didn’t have any. his mom couldn’t send it because she doesn’t know how to take pictures with her phone and he couldn’t get it because he lives far from her. i finally got back in touch with him today when, you guessed it, he’s dealing with a family tragedy and won’t be able to get the tracking info to me!! so now i’m at the point of going through my bank and starting the process of getting my money back via a lengthy bank chargeback. i should end up with my money. i’ve got several texts from him claiming the clubs were sent, and unless he can produce tracking info that checks out, the money will he pulled from his account and refunded to me. i know i screwed the pooch by sending money as friends and family, but i think it’s still important to shine a light on people like this. Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryShortCake Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I direct messaged the Admins when i was scammed, they made a post and deleted the member from the forum. Quote Driver: Rogue Sub Zero 9* stiff Wood: Tight Lies TI 3 wood stiff Hybrid: XR 3 19 deg stiff Irons: JPX 900 Tour std loft/lie Wedges: 52,56,60 Putter: #7 Red Ball: Q-Star 12.9 Handicap Comox Valley, B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCake said: I direct messaged the Admins when i was scammed, they made a post and deleted the member from the forum. on offerup or paypal? Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 small update: the seller actually answered my texts today. i told him if he could just produce a tracking number that i could verify then id drop everything and wait patiently for my clubs big surprise: his mom lost the usps receipt! i told him i’m going ahead with the claims on both paypal and offer up and i’ll happily stop them if the clubs happen to show up. shop safely out there guys! Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryShortCake Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Chip Strokes said: on offerup or paypal? Mine was through paypal, but the member posted on this forum. MattF and Chip Strokes 2 Quote Driver: Rogue Sub Zero 9* stiff Wood: Tight Lies TI 3 wood stiff Hybrid: XR 3 19 deg stiff Irons: JPX 900 Tour std loft/lie Wedges: 52,56,60 Putter: #7 Red Ball: Q-Star 12.9 Handicap Comox Valley, B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMex Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: small update: the seller actually answered my texts today. i told him if he could just produce a tracking number that i could verify then id drop everything and wait patiently for my clubs big surprise: his mom lost the usps receipt! i told him i’m going ahead with the claims on both paypal and offer up and i’ll happily stop them if the clubs happen to show up. shop safely out there guys! Had similar case once, I threw a hailmary and told him that I spoken with local my postmaster and would filing 18 U.S. Code § 1341 charges (Fraud and Swindles) Had my money in 5 days (np pay pal back in the 90's) Chip Strokes, JohnSmalls and Nolan220 3 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F-8 set at 10.5, Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 " 3 & 5 WOOD: Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) IRONS 5-SW: PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft Alta CB (R) + 1/2" HYBRID 3-4: PING G-410, 1 upright, Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2" PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 he keeps holding on to the fact that he hasn’t blocked my number as “proof” that he’s not ripping me off. sorry man, i operate on proof, not good faith. gonna have to do better. Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 another update: some very basic googling got me Calvin’s home phone number. i just got off the phone with his dad, real nice guy basically told him at this point if Calvin can’t produce proof that he sent my clubs, i’m gonna need a refund and that it can either come direct from Calvin now, or paypal can take it from his bank in a few weeks. dear old dad is gonna have a talk with Calvin sirchunksalot, Miboy62, russtopherb and 6 others 3 6 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: another update: some very basic googling got me Calvin’s home phone number. i just got off the phone with his dad, real nice guy basically told him at this point if Calvin can’t produce proof that he sent my clubs, i’m gonna need a refund and that it can either come direct from Calvin now, or paypal can take it from his bank in a few weeks. dear old dad is gonna have a talk with Calvin Nice internet detective work sirchunksalot, Chip Strokes and JohnSmalls 3 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDontGiveAchuck Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've bought a few things off Mercari and this has always been a fear of mine when doing so. I hope it works out for you soon. Chip Strokes and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Just tap it in. Lil' taparoo. TW747 460 10.5° Vizard stiff 4 Hybrid 699 5-Aw; KBS Tour-V 90 Stiff Tour Action 58° Spider Interactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, IDontGiveAchuck said: I've bought a few things off Mercari and this has always been a fear of mine when doing so. I hope it works out for you soon. thanks. this is the first time i've bought anything that had to be shipped via OfferUp and it's not likely i'll do it again. sirchunksalot 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 oh my god i love it when a plan comes together!!!! tommc23, JohnSmalls and MattF 3 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory O Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 ...so his parents have nothing to do with this, but it was his mom who did the shipping, can’t work a camera phone, and lost the receipt? MyWifesSwingCoach, Chip Strokes, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote 2024 is the year of the short set! Driver: TaylorMade BRNR 11.5* stiff Hybrid: PXG 0311 GEN5 19* Irons: JustGolf Forged Blades (4, 6, 8, PW) Wedge: 56* Forged Prototype Putter: PXG Blackjack Center Shaft 34" Bag: Sunday Golf Loma XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cory O said: ...so his parents have nothing to do with this, but it was his mom who did the shipping, can’t work a camera phone, and lost the receipt? he hasn’t told a straight story from the jump. this feels so good IDontGiveAchuck 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMex Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: he hasn’t told a straight story from the jump. this feels so good This is the vision I have now,,,,,,,,,,,,, tommc23, MyWifesSwingCoach, McaseyM and 4 others 2 5 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F-8 set at 10.5, Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 60 (R) 44 1/2 " 3 & 5 WOOD: Callaway XR-16, Fujikura Speeder Evolution 565 Red (R) IRONS 5-SW: PING G-700, 2 upright, std loft Alta CB (R) + 1/2" HYBRID 3-4: PING G-410, 1 upright, Alta CB 70 Red (R) + 1/2" PUTTER: Byron Experimental GSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDontGiveAchuck Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 sirchunksalot, MyWifesSwingCoach, Chip Strokes and 1 other 1 3 Quote Just tap it in. Lil' taparoo. TW747 460 10.5° Vizard stiff 4 Hybrid 699 5-Aw; KBS Tour-V 90 Stiff Tour Action 58° Spider Interactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 OMG this awesome!! Offer up has been pretty good to me BUT I've only done local business. I have to look a fella in the eye when handing over my hard earned cash. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. sirchunksalot, Chip Strokes and Nolan220 3 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye64 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 To play devils advocate.. usps took 23 days to deliver some shafts for me this month. It was 2 days guaranteed. Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, azstu324 said: OMG this awesome!! Offer up has been pretty good to me BUT I've only done local business. I have to look a fella in the eye when handing over my hard earned cash. the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.. i was the same way. always in person. lesson learned now. Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan220 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 6:15 PM, MadMex said: Had similar case once, I threw a hailmary and told him that I spoken with local my postmaster and would filing 18 U.S. Code § 1341 charges (Fraud and Swindles) Had my money in 5 days (np pay pal back in the 90's) also did this but in the late 90s early 2000s ebay for a purchase over $500 .. after a lot of back and forth phone calls .. the person sent a hand writing letter and said they never got the money but they would give $200 bucks (what?), they send me a handwriting letter claiming their innocents (remember this), I filed with the post office bc I did a USPS certified money which needs to be signed, the post office sends me a copy of the signed money order. I get a call from a federal investigator saying this person did this before so I kept every document including the letter...the idiot signed the letter which match to the signed money order ! .. They were arrested and went to jail for 5 years or something like and I received restitution checks for years until the total was paid back....I still buy from ebay though haha Chip Strokes and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Speedzone Driver Tensei AV Blue or G400 SFT 10. KBS TD 50 Category 3 shaft King Speedzone Black Yellow Fairway 3 wood Tensei AV Blue 65 F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft T300 4i-GW - Tensei AV Blue AM2 Regular Flex or JPX 900 Hot Metal 5 - GW Project X Lz 4.5 Regular Flex Graphite Glide 2.0 SS Wedges 54 & 58 TP Red White Ardmore Putter - BGT Stability Tour Black shaft Precision Pro NX7 range finder Ultralight Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 @Nolan220 that’s a crazy story! Nolan220 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 9:41 AM, Nolan220 said: also did this but in the late 90s early 2000s ebay for a purchase over $500 .. after a lot of back and forth phone calls .. the person sent a hand writing letter and said they never got the money but they would give $200 bucks (what?), they send me a handwriting letter claiming their innocents (remember this), I filed with the post office bc I did a USPS certified money which needs to be signed, the post office sends me a copy of the signed money order. I get a call from a federal investigator saying this person did this before so I kept every document including the letter...the idiot signed the letter which match to the signed money order ! .. They were arrested and went to jail for 5 years or something like and I received restitution checks for years until the total was paid back....I still buy from ebay though haha I got called by the FBI once over an eBay transaction... talk about a sphincter tightening moment! Turns out some computer parts I had bought were stolen from a university's lab by an employee. The agent thankfully said right at the top that I wasn't in trouble, they just wanted to know if there was anything on the hard drives when they arrived, did I have any other communication with the seller, etc. Chip Strokes, Nolan220 and MattF 3 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'm glad this all worked out for OP, i got scammed on offerup for a Apple TV (only buying local in person myself from now on) , but placed a complaint on Paypal and the seller never responded so Paypal refunded me. it did take 2 weeks. I do love to catch people in their BS, those texts are awesome Nolan220 and Chip Strokes 2 Quote What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 @McaseyM im glad it worked out for you as well. i was prepared to wait a month for my money, but i guess his dad made him cough it up with the quickness he's still texting me, by the way. today it sad to tell me the clubs got “returned to sender” because he wrote my address wrong MattF, McaseyM and Nolan220 1 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Chip Strokes said: @McaseyM im glad it worked out for you as well. i was prepared to wait a month for my money, but i guess his dad made him cough it up with the quickness he's still texting me, by the way. today it sad to tell me the clubs got “returned to sender” because he wrote my address wrong this is like the most ultimate BS. Ask for a picture of the box!! Quote What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, McaseyM said: this is like the most ultimate BS. Ask for a picture of the box!! i did, out of morbid curiosity. he just avoided the question. Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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