Derek H17 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 They say tee it high to let it fly. I find in my game I gain distance and control with the ball a little higher. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf Green Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 My view on this is that as long as the ball is at a height which is at least at the same height as the sweet spot on your driver then the tee height should not impact on distance. It is of course important that the ball is teed up at the same height each time to help with your muscle memory and consistency. However, if of course the ball is at a height lower than this then the ball cannot possibly be hit out of the sweet spot, hence impacting distance. I also think that teeing the ball higher encourages golfers to have the swing thought of sweeping the ball off the tee with a shallow arc at the bottom instead of hitting down with a steep angle which would be good for most golfers to gain distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richochet Rick Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 My foot sprayed driver suggests I hit bottom 1/3 of the club face pretty consistently ... tee it any lower and I may wiff altogether... but I agree with earlier comments - the pros would find a way to get those yards back in a weekend. MattF 1 Quote 10hcp armed with Cobra Dr, Taylormade wds, apex Ir’s and Cleveland wdg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Durant Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, GolfSpy_THV said: Let's discuss the MGS latest test about Tee Heights! Article here: https://mygolfspy.com/tee-height-test/ What are your thoughts? Does a Tee Height make a difference in your distance or dispersion on the course? Greetings fellow golfers. I am a 22 handicap (like we all think, I should be lower) but I get into good grooves, and my tee game has been good the last few years. I do notice that with these new big head drivers (I play a M1 460CC driver) and the ability to "program" them, I have benefited from teeing the ball up higher on some holes. I do not do it all the time, because I can't maintain that consistent a swing on every hole, plus, some holes do not call for a super high launch. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddysflying Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I tee lower than a lot of people bc I use the Jim Venetos swing and therefore strike driver with a descending blow-actually increases distance... Don't tell anybody... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Daddysflying said: I tee lower than a lot of people bc I use the Jim Venetos swing and therefore strike driver with a descending blow-actually increases distance... Don't tell anybody... Given the same swing speed, an ascending blow would be longer than a descending blow. Its just science tony@CIC, RickyBobby_PR, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWD Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Tee height definitely affects my ball flight. I have a rather shallow AoA, so using a "4 more yards" tee, has helped me to gain consistency. I insert the tee so that the collar on the tee shaft is barely touching the ground, or even up 1/16" for normal shots. I get good height and better carry. For strong headwinds, I push the tee down so that the collar is i/16" to 1/8" below the surface. The ball has a more penetrating flight. Quote 10 handicap, French Bulldog owner, Sports enthusiast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfish! Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 During my most recent fitting, the fitter actually told me to tee the ball a little lower as I was catching it high on the face almost the border of the crown. But after the new driver came in, I noticed I was hitting too low with the tee lower. I experimented with a higher tee and I was launching the ball much higher and carrying further with more hang time. I read an article or a quote somewhere that a fitter can only fit you for the swing you have that day. I must have been hitting more down on the driver that day because with the higher tee that I am playing now I am impacting just above the center of the face and getting great launch. Waiting for my Mevo to come in so I can actually get measurable data on my launch conditions. I firmly believe teeing it higher has helped me carry farther. Why else would WLD champs tee up like 4 inches above the ground? Whether it would address the distance problem for tour players, I don't think so. Someone said it is time for bifurcation between tour players and regular amateurs and I think that is the right way to go. sirchunksalot and MattF 2 Quote Driver : SIM2 Max 9* MC Kuro Kago Silver 60 Stiff Woods : GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular Hybrids: 949X Project X HZRDUS RDX Black Irons : 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts Wedges : 52, 56, 60 Putter : Spider Red Bag : lightweight cart bag | Dry Series Bag Ball : TP5 PIX (2019) | ProV1x (2021) Rangefinder : ULT-X Pushcart : M5 GPS DHC Electric Push Cart SoCal, USA Right handed HDCP 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshDay Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I find I have better control when the tee is lower. Distance is not a concern for me, so if teeing a little lower costs me a few yards, I'd rather have control. tony@CIC 1 Quote 10.5 Epic Flash TM 3 Wood Titleist 20* 5 Wood Apex Pro Irons 58 TM and 60 Callaway degree wedges Odyssey Sabertooth Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshDay Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, Beaumissy said: I use Martini tees for my driver that are preset for height. The height appears higher than I used to place a regular tee and I have been more consistent in my driving. I think it's about the consistency. We can try to get the same height each time, but it's not. Those pre-determined height tees offer the same each time Quote 10.5 Epic Flash TM 3 Wood Titleist 20* 5 Wood Apex Pro Irons 58 TM and 60 Callaway degree wedges Odyssey Sabertooth Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Interesting results and significantly more than I would have guessed. I have lowered my tee height in recent years and found it to me more reliable. I've not measured what my tee height is now but would guess it at 1.25. Much like @cnosilexplained, my AoA works better with a lower tee height and I rarely catch the top anymore. What really caught my eye however is the significant drop in FIR's... it wouldn't seem accuracy would be influenced that much. MattF and tony@CIC 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colglfr Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 This winter using the rubber cone tees. One of them tees the ball higher and noticed the carry increase. I received some of the Western Birch golf tees and they are lined. I am going to start using the lines on the tee and try the 1.5 inch height and see the results. fixyurdivot 1 Quote What's in the Bag: Mizuno 800 pro Irons Callaway X2 Hot Pro Driver and Hybrid Taylor Made 3 and 5 wood Ping Glide Wedges Scotty Cameron Newport 2.0 Putter Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Tee it high, let it fly. I use 3 1/2" inch tees and put just enough in the ground to keep it stable. Take Dead Aim Tom the Golf Nut, golfish!, MattF and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davin11 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I think tee height effects several things, I tee it lower to hit a low cut, and higher to launch it more. I use my ring finger on my right hand to measure for height consistency. fixyurdivot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfish! Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tsmithjr9 said: Tee it high, let it fly. I use 3 1/2" inch tees and put just enough in the ground to keep it stable. Take Dead Aim Yep same here. My tees have built in marks (not painted on as I learned those paint marks eventually come off) so I get consistent tee heights. Been teeing with just the tip in the ground with a 3 1/4" tee. Only issue is that my tee goes flying out of the ground and I am constantly looking for it! fixyurdivot, tony@CIC and MattF 3 Quote Driver : SIM2 Max 9* MC Kuro Kago Silver 60 Stiff Woods : GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular Hybrids: 949X Project X HZRDUS RDX Black Irons : 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts Wedges : 52, 56, 60 Putter : Spider Red Bag : lightweight cart bag | Dry Series Bag Ball : TP5 PIX (2019) | ProV1x (2021) Rangefinder : ULT-X Pushcart : M5 GPS DHC Electric Push Cart SoCal, USA Right handed HDCP 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Forget all this talk about tee heights. If the USGA and the R&A want to limit the distance a ball goes, reduce the overall weight from 1.62 ounces to 1.3 ounces. For a better explanation of this get the book "Search for the Perfect Swing" by Alastair Cochran and John Stobbs. There's a complete discussion of this in Chapter 26 entitled "What Flight of What Ball", specifically the paragraphs on pages 170 and 171. Quote Driver: Tommy Armour Atomic, 10.5, Senior Shaft 3 Wood: Cleveland FL, senior graphite shaft. Adams Idea A12 OS, 3,4,5,6 hybrids, 7 - sand wedge. Senior flex graphite shafts Ping Answer putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipCarter Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Tee height plays a difference in distance, but nothing in accuracy. Using a shorter driver is what creates accuracy. I use micro head tees and all are pre marked at the preferred tee height. Limiting tee height is not going to make the game more difficult for pros. 15 yards isn’t much distance lost at the professional level. Second, they already hit the ball at adjusted tee height levels. Look at DJ hitting a 7 Wood 255 yards. Tee height doesn’t make a difference. The USGA doesn’t need to spend time evaluating limiting tee height. Fact is, golf has more youngsters In the game then ever before. In addition, our own athletic human nature has incorporated physical fitness into golf more than ever before. This is what has led to an increase in distance more than anything. Make the game harder at the professional level. Make the fairway, rough, and fringe cuts taller. Eliminate green reading books. Make the pace in greens change from hole to hole. Same with fairways. Just at the professional level only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman24 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Tee height is critical. I had a bad driver head and one of the things I tried was lowering the tee height. As soon as I got my replacement head and teed the ball up higher, my length and accuracy both got better. Quote Driver: G410 LST 9 +1 Flat w/Tour AD DI 6X Orange 3 Metal: M2 13 degree w/Tour AD DJ 7X Orange Hybrid: 818 21 4-PW: MP 20 w/Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges: 50-54-58: Mizuno MP T20 w/DG S400 Putter: Joseph SS303 w/Super Stroke Fatso 5.0 Ball: MTB Black C130 S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I appreciate the test but would have preferred measure points at every 1/2 inch starting at 1.5. I saw that a prior poster commented a belief that it made no difference in accuracy but if a lower tee produce more spin than it does make a difference as the test itself suggests.Where the cutoff point is in regards to tee height matters though. I’d also suspect that optimal heights will vary per player and that club set up might be used to minimize the impact of lower tee heights.Just some additional thoughts, great discussion starter. So long as the USGA leaves the 99 plus percent alone I really don’t care what they do. I feel there’s a chance of that based on their new CEO. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 00sportsman, MattF and tony@CIC 3 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darbster Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I wish the article would've explored additional tee heights. I use the professional tee system 3 1/4" (blue) and previously used the 2 3/4" (yellow). My longest drives came from the 2 3/4 but I was way more inconsistent - everything from topping to pop-ups to 90 deg slices. In a perfect world, I'd get with a coach and develop a swing that grooved me hitting up on a 2 3/4" tee. Longer facilitates up AoA and finds me (a couple of) more fairways... tony@CIC and revkev 2 Quote PXG 0811 X+ Prototype 10.5 Adila NV Orange 55 Ping G410 3W PXG Gen 5 7W Project X Cypher 50 APXG Hybrid 22deg Ping G15 4-W Cleveland RTX 3 50, PXG Sugar Daddy 54, Vokey SM7 58 PXG Spitfire Putter Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garwood Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Consistent tee height gives you a controllable that helps eliminate a variable and back in the day day used to play the ball and tee and sink tee until my knuckles touched and today with the tees that have a stop to give you the same height are great tools that you can work from for desired results tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenmatt Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) How quickly would companies make a new driver to accompany this change and launch the ball the same distance/same height? 1 month? 2 months? Edited April 17, 2022 by stephenmatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf Green Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I agree with Garwood that it makes sense to buy castle/graduated tees to set your preferred tee height instead of trying to do this using your ring finger etc. They cost the same as normal tees and come in many different heights. I know Pros do not use them but we are not all Pros unfortunately. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Tsmithjr9 said: Tee it high, let it fly. I use 3 1/2" inch tees and put just enough in the ground to keep it stable. Take Dead Aim But this begs the question, is a mere 3" tee height costing you distance? If the trend is higher = longer and straighter, then those 5" Texas Tee's are more than just a novelty. Vegan_Golfer_PNW and MattF 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 As a higher handicapper, I'm certainly not an expert in this area. However, I would think that tee height by itself isn't the only variable; as ball position and AOA would have an affect as well. The key is to hit the sweet spot. I tee the ball up pretty high using a 3 1/4" tee and it works for me. MattF 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BH43 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I tee it at least 1.5 or 2.0 inches. high handicapper. But that works for me. Quote Tommy Armour TA -1 driver Adams 2 hy Adams 3 hy Tommy Armour 4hy Adams 5 hy STi-2 irons 6-GW Acer 52 & 54 wedges Pinemeadow SS 400 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 For those of you who tee it high, do you ground the driver as part of your set-up routine? Keep in mind the lab test was conducted with robots and they have no pre-shot routine... unless Tony programmed one in . I've been experimenting with not grounding my driver and thus far it just feels odd and the results inconsistent. MattF and GolfSpy BOS 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 But this begs the question, is a mere 3" tee height costing you distance? If the trend is higher = longer and straighter, then those 5" Texas Tee's are more than just a novelty.Don't tempt me bro Take Dead Aim MattF, tony@CIC and fixyurdivot 2 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 For those of you who tee it high, do you ground the driver as part of your set-up routine? Keep in mind the lab test was conducted with robots and they have no pre-shot routine... unless Tony programmed one in . I've been experimenting with not grounding my driver and thus far it just feels odd and the results inconsistent.I do as part of my routine - seems to work for me. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy MattF and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 For those of you who tee it high, do you ground the driver as part of your set-up routine? Keep in mind the lab test was conducted with robots and they have no pre-shot routine... unless Tony programmed one in . I've been experimenting with not grounding my driver and thus far it just feels odd and the results inconsistent.I’m mostly in the grounded camp. But I have tried to hover the club to from time to time. I also find I can be inconsistent with it. To make it feel less weird to me I usually set up grounded and right before I start my backswing I’ll lift the head off the ground behind the ball. That way it’s not really “hovering” long. sirchunksalot, MattF and fixyurdivot 3 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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