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18 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Right there with you on the PXG golf ball. Vice would be the others that I have a particular interest in!

Yep, new DTC balls vs traditional ball manufacturers. Best ball per dollar (best value) is what I’m interested in. 

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Driver:  PXG_Logo.png.ee163b621006ac6c8fc2c744c029c0e7.pngGen4 0811X (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 65 S)

Fairway metals:  TITLEIST_logo_35px.png.0d6d0e557d5c18a58903aaf05ed572ff.png3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | PXG_Logo.png.ee163b621006ac6c8fc2c744c029c0e7.png5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S)

Hybrid: PXG_Logo.png.ee163b621006ac6c8fc2c744c029c0e7.png4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S)

Irons:  Sub70.png.2184b0ad55dd6cf5d54509b60c419e6b.png 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0)

Wedges: Sub70.png.2184b0ad55dd6cf5d54509b60c419e6b.png  286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S)

Putter: Sub70.png.2184b0ad55dd6cf5d54509b60c419e6b.png AL-6 armlock | Unofficial review here

Ball:  Vice_logo.png.729a77999807d43babe4f3f658d6165c.png pro drip: red & blue | MAXFLI_logo_35px.png.20ce36ace6486597a4b0794c46c1fd5c.pngTour S

Pushcart: clicgear_logo.png.44ad85f06b123725c8fca94cb49899a3.png 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here

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19 hours ago, GolfSpy_SAM said:

Let's hear it - what absolutely needs to be included? PXG, MaxFli's new balls and anything new in the DTC space are what I'm most interested in. 

What about you?

OnCore Vero X2

DR - Callaway Paradym X, Newton Motion 4-Dot

4W - T.E. Exotics C722, Diamana D+ 82-S

HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft

7W (if played) - Callaway Epic Flash, ACCRA Tour X 80S

Irons - Cobra Forged Tec X (5-GW), KBS TGI 75-R

Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100

Putter - Makefield VS custom, 34", 67* lie, 1.75* loft

Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus (OnCore ELIXR or Maxfli Tour S in winter)

Bags - Vessel

Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote)

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Any ball that advertises as a "premium" ball at the non-premium (i.e. <$4.50 per ball) price point.

Definitely need the MaxFli Tour line in there since they decided to boost the price of the cube by 14%.

Would love to see Vice's premium line included to see if those balls have gotten any better.

Any direct-to-consumer line.

Bridgestone's value line would be great. I use the e6 for non-competitive rounds at hazardous courses to mitigate costs and would love to see how they compare to premium balls.

:srixon-small: Z785 9.5° |

:taylormade-small: M5 3W |

:nike-small: Sq Dymo^2 5W (just can't quit you) |

:taylormade-small: P790 4-AW |

:cleveland-small: RTX 4 56/60° |

THEE :odyssey-small:White Hot OG Rossie (2006)

Ball: Maxfli Tour X

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Also, can we include Titleist's AVX? I would really like some hard data on how that ball compares to their other premiums that might point to what kind of golfer would use it over a ProV.

:srixon-small: Z785 9.5° |

:taylormade-small: M5 3W |

:nike-small: Sq Dymo^2 5W (just can't quit you) |

:taylormade-small: P790 4-AW |

:cleveland-small: RTX 4 56/60° |

THEE :odyssey-small:White Hot OG Rossie (2006)

Ball: Maxfli Tour X

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One test I would like to see with this golf ball test is the water test when hitting wedge shots. I know they do this test with wedge testing but not ball testing if my memory is correct. Most interested in Maxfli and Titleist new ball testing so we can compare them to each other. 

 :mizuno-small: STZ 230 9.5 degree; :projectx: HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 60G, 6.0 Flex

:titelist-small: TSI 2, 3W 15 degrees

:titelist-small: TSI 2,  3 Hybrid 18 degrees

:titelist-small: TSI 2, 4 Hybrid 21 degrees

:titelist-small: T200 5 Iron

:titleist-small: T150 6 thru PW

:titelist-small: :vokey-small: SM8 48 & 52; SM9 58 degrees

:titelist-small: :cameron-small: Special Select Fastback 1.5 Putter; :EVNROLL: ER5v Hatchback Putter

:titelist-small: Pro V1-2023 & :maxfli: 2023 Tour Ball 

:titleist-small: Players 4 Plus Stand Bag
Bushnell Tour V5 Rangefinder 

:Arccos: Caddie 

:SuperSpeed:  Training System 

 

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I'd love to see Piper Golf and Sugar Golf included. There are a bunch of these very small DTC brands that I think MGS might be able to find a diamond in the rough if it tests well.

And not necessarily a ball I want to see, but I hope that there's NOT a "well we tested that version two years ago, so we can just incorporate that data" attitude. I could see this being the case with balls like Left Dash or Snell's MTB-X, but even if the robot and club are exactly the same as two years ago, the testing conditions are different and not absolute. There are already plenty of discrepancies about the overall testing protocol, but "comparison" data from an entirely different testing session from two years ago would pretty significantly undercut the validity of the results.

I also want to see standard deviations. But in case it wasn't clear already, I'm not the average retail consumer.

Driver: :srixon-small: ZX5 LS MkII 9.5* (@ 9.0*) with 46.5" Ventus Blue 6X
3-wood: :taylormade-small: SIM 15* with Diamana Limited 75S
5-wood: :cobra-small: RADspeed 18.5* with Motore X F3 60S
2i: :srixon-small: ZX with SteelFiber i95 Stiff

4hy: :titleist-small: TS3 23* with Tensei AV Blue 70 S
4i-7i :srixon-small: ZX7, 8i-PW Z-Forged, Modus3 Tour 120 S
50*, 55* :cleveland-small: RTX 6 Modus3 Tour 125
60* :cleveland-small: RTX Full Face ZipCore DG Spinner S400
Putter: :callaway-small: Toulon Chicago with a :garsen: Quad Tour

Ball: ProV1x Left Dash, Chromesoft X LS
Bag: :srixon-small: Ltd Edition Tartan, blue/green/yellow

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:titelist-small: Blind Ball Test (Ball #3 vs Ball #4) - Unofficial Review
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 V3 GPS Watch + Tags - Official Review
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 Vero X2 - Official Review

The Stack System - Official Review

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Would like to see a fair assessment of all the balls.  There is a ball out there that fits everyone's game and pocketbook.  Me, I prefer a premium golf ball, even though I am 76 with a slow golf swing of 93mph, I do like the results I get from the Prov1, especially the new version.  A golf ball is a personal thing and about choices.  Am interested in reading the results. 

Some did mention the Prov1x and left dash cutting.  I did testing on the Pro1s and Prov1xs and the Prov1x did have a tendency to cut more when skimming off a cart path or a hard object.  As far a cutting, it would take a "really bad miss" to cut a Prov golf ball with an iron.  Most any premium brand golf ball will shred with wedges if you are a hard digger and put a lot of spin on the ball.  Pros change their balls about every three holes for that reason.     

 

Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR

Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 

Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S

Hybrid - TSR1 20.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75  

Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75

Irons - T350 (2023) - 6-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g

Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S - True Temper AMT Red 94 

**  GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips  (all woods/irons/wedges)

Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" 

**  Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip  

Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1s (2023)                                                         

Golf Bags - TITLEIST  - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white)

Golf Glove - FootJoy (StaSof), Shoes, Apparel and Outerwear        

Rangefinder - Bushnell Pro XE

 

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7 minutes ago, ChuckZ said:

Would like to see a fair assessment of all the balls.  There is a ball out there that fits everyone's game and pocketbook.  Me, I prefer a premium golf ball, even though I am 76 with a slow golf swing of 93mph, I do like the results I get from the Prov1, especially the new version.  A golf ball is a personal thing and about choices.  Am interested in reading the results. 

Some did mention the Prov1x and left dash cutting.  I did testing on the Pro1s and Prov1xs and the Prov1x did have a tendency to cut more when skimming off a cart path or a hard object.  As far a cutting, it would take a "really bad miss" to cut a Prov golf ball with an iron.  Most any premium brand golf ball will shred with wedges if you are a hard digger and put a lot of spin on the ball.  Pros change their balls about every three holes for that reason.     

 

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1 minute ago, Hedgehog said:

76 with a SLOW swing speed of 93, kudos buddy.

you must have hit ball 350 in your 20s

keep enjoying 

 

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Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR

Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 

Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S

Hybrid - TSR1 20.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75  

Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75

Irons - T350 (2023) - 6-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g

Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S - True Temper AMT Red 94 

**  GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips  (all woods/irons/wedges)

Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" 

**  Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip  

Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1s (2023)                                                         

Golf Bags - TITLEIST  - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white)

Golf Glove - FootJoy (StaSof), Shoes, Apparel and Outerwear        

Rangefinder - Bushnell Pro XE

 

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How about a real world test using a ball that tests well vs. a ball that performs poorly. Maybe test using high, middle and low handicappers each randomly playing about 10 rounds with each ball. 

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I am now using the Oncore Vero X1 or Elixir Green Matte golf Balls. The Vero X1 reacts and plays like the Pro V1. The Vero X1 2-dozen pack is $70. It is well worth a try. The Elixir has less spin and is a low compression alternative. Their Vero X2 is a 95 compression golf ball is a little too much for my 90mph swing speed.

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Dick's Sporting Goods has the new MaxFli balls for the $120 price special.

Baton Rouge Louisiana

PXG Gen 6 Driver 10.5 Project X Cypher 50 5.5

Callaway Rogue X irons

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On 2/16/2023 at 2:50 PM, sirchunksalot said:

I'm pretty much in line with what you want to see. It'll be interesting to compare how the new MaxFli balls compare to the previous models and how the Tour S fits in their lineup. The PXG ball is the big one for me...not that I'll buy them, but I would like to see if they are as good as they claim. 

Yup, PXG ball.  There’s something interesting about PXG equipment.

Rick

 

 

Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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5 minutes ago, Rickp said:

Yup, PXG ball.  There’s something interesting about PXG equipment.

I just think that's the big, new ball coming out. Plus, with all of Bob Parsons claims I think people will either want to see it perform really well or horribly. I wish he would have priced them around $35 because the higher price point can't beat how much I love the MaxFli Tour.

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5 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I just think that's the big, new ball coming out. Plus, with all of Bob Parsons claims I think people will either want to see it perform really well or horribly. I wish he would have priced them around $35 because the higher price point can't beat how much I love the MaxFli Tour.

We’ll see what happens.  I don’t think Parsons would float it out there if it didn’t deliver.  Since ProV1x is my favorite ball I’m interested.

Rick

 

 

Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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Okay, since you asked, I would like you to test the cheapest 3 piece urethane cover ball that I've ever come across, the Spalding SD Tour X. I've seen them for as low as $14.99 per doz. check these out and maybe there's a few other low end urethane balls out there that MGS could test.

Taylormade M-5 driver, Callaway Epic #3, Nickent 20* hybrid, Honma T/W X #5-#11, Maltby 56*, Putter (to many to list)

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I can’t remember what happened last year, but I’d love to see two articles: one that compares urethane balls and one that compares non-urethane balls.

Callaway still makes Warbirds. Wilson still makes Zips. TaylorMade still makes Noodles. Even Pinnacle still makes balls. I know these don’t compare to the next tier, but how much?

Another thing I‘d want to know is, how much impact does an ionomer ball have on a set of mid/high handicappers’ games compared to urethane? Score-wise? Distance-wise? Putting-wise?

DRIVER :cobra-small: AEROJET 10.5°  |  FAIRWAY :callaway-small: ROGUE ST MAX 3/15°
HYBRID :ping-small: G410 21°  |  UTILITY :Sub70: 699 V2 U 5/23°
IRONS :Sub70: 699 V2 6-PW |  WEDGES :cleveland-small: CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58°
PUTTER KIRKLAND Signature KS1

BALL :callaway-small: SUPERSOFT
BAG :1590477705_SunMountain: 3.5 LS  |  PUSHCART :Clicgear: ROVIC RV1S

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I want to see the TaylorMade Tour Response against the big boys for swing speeds under 100. I really like the ball and have been watching some test videos against the Pro V 1. It seems to hold its own for $10 or more savings per box.

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Callaway X2Hot 3W Aldila RIP Stiff
Callaway X2Hot 19° Matrix Radix S7 Stiff 
Ping i25 4i-PW KBS Stiff (soft-stepped)
Titleist SM7 52 8° F Stiff
Titleist SM7 56 8° M Stiff
Titleist SM7 60 4° L Stiff
Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 34" Superstroke Flatso 2.0
Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 grips
Snell MTB Red (Optic Yellow)
Powerbilt TPS Cabretta Tour Glove
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Love all these ideas! Keep them coming!

Someone else ( @GolfSpy_APH?) may be able to more definitively answer this, but I'm fairly certain the test only includes 3-piece (and up) balls, with the exception of "Range Balls". 

There are already SO many options from so many companies in the 3/4/5-piece categories, that limiting the test to those balls is key. 

While there are TONS of golfers out there who can only afford 2-piece construction (and/or Ionomer/Surlyn), since 99% of the "best ball in golf/fastest/awesomest" claims are only in the 3-5 piece categories, limiting the test to these would (most likely) help those customers looking for a non-urethane ball, too, since quality would (presumably) be consistent in a company's lineup. 

 

Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04
3/5 Wood - Warrior Golf (don't ask)
Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*)
Irons (4-PW) - Caley 01T (4-PW)
Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60
Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*
Ball - Maxfli Tour

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15 minutes ago, GolfSpy_SAM said:

Love all these ideas! Keep them coming!

Someone else ( @GolfSpy_APH?) may be able to more definitively answer this, but I'm fairly certain the test only includes 3-piece (and up) balls, with the exception of "Range Balls". 

There are already SO many options from so many companies in the 3/4/5-piece categories, that limiting the test to those balls is key. 

While there are TONS of golfers out there who can only afford 2-piece construction (and/or Ionomer/Surlyn), since 99% of the "best ball in golf/fastest/awesomest" claims are only in the 3-5 piece categories, limiting the test to these would (most likely) help those customers looking for a non-urethane ball, too, since quality would (presumably) be consistent in a company's lineup. 

 

I actually don't know and would have to look back to see. 

However given the amount of DTC and better priced options from bigger OEMs I find it kinda pointless (own opinion) to test 2 piece balls. You can get a good golf ball for a decent price that has 3 layers or even 4 in some cases that isn't going to break the bank. Going down the 2 piece route would mean they would be there for the next year and a bit and by the time the data came out it wouldn't be relevant anymore. 

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Driver:  :callaway-small: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft

Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
                                          T150 6-9 Iron
                                          T100 PW/GW

Wedge:  Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree 

Putter:  Screenshot 2023-06-02 13.10.30.png Mezz Max!

Balls:     Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange)

 

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I would appreciate more testing around the green.  I did a very unofficial test with my coach last year, and the Maxfli GG ball which was supposed to compete against the ProV was nowhere close in terms of holding greens from nearby lies.  The ProV was WAY softer.  From 150 matters, but I miss enough that from 15 matters as much!

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  •  :callaway-small: Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods (:Fuji: MotoreX F1 7-S)
  • :callaway-small: Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid (:Fuji: MotoreX HB 7-S)
  •  :Miura: CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (4-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts:  :projectx: LZ 6.0)
  • :cleveland-small: RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125)
  • :scotty-small: Special Select Fastback 1.5
  • :redrooster: Gloves
  •  :maxfli: Tour X Balls

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Test the Clear golf ball. Clear Sports.

Taylormade driver Sldr stiff D9+ custom shaft SST pure

3,4,5, Tour Edge hyb reg. 60 gram.

Mzunio 921 fourged 5-G  D2 5.5 flex

Titleist wedges 54 58 D5 Nippon SST pure

Evnroll putter

 first in April to Sept. Clear ball the original. second Prov 1

off season Vice tour plus

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