higherplane Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 With John Rahm, Smith, Kopeka, DeChambeau on one tour and Scheffler, McIlroy, Hovland, Schauffele, Cantlay on another (2023 majors 2 each). We have reached the point of significantly lesser fields in the Pro golf across the world. Hopefully this doesn't effect the quality of viewership. Stuka44 and Rob Person 2 Quote Driver - 2023 Callaway Paradym 9.0, 3 Wood -2022 Rogue ST Max, 3 Hybrid Mavrik, 2017 X-forged 4-PW, Wedges Callaway 50-56-60, Putter Odyssey Toulon Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/as-pga-tour-liv-saga-endures-fan-frustration-is-turning-into-apathy/ I think this article sums it up. Many golfers and viewers (myself included) are just exhausted from it all and have little reason or excitement to watch golf outside of youtube golf at this point. Majors excluded. Rob Person, ZJeb67, Middler and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I don't watch any outside of majors and all the mess going on, even those are in question. Rob Person 1 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 The only one that I really enjoy is The Masters and that's mostly due to the fact they have very few commercials. Rob Person and ZJeb67 2 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Howell Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I watch very few non majors anyways but I would say yes. There are a few that grab your attention like the Waste Management but they are far and few now Josh Parker, GaDawg and Rob Person 3 Quote Dave Howell Certified Golf Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I would disagree. If all you want is entertainment value then sure, go the way of YouTube or other social media outlets. But enjoy watching sports. Golf has always been a bit dull and makes for a great Sunday nap. And yes, the LIV vs. PGA soap opera is boring and played out. All I want to watch is high caliber golf. DPWT, PGAT, LET, LPGAT or majors, all of it is still enjoyable to watch but until the soap opera ends, I will play more than watch on the weekends. Javs, Rob Person and Josh Parker 3 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Most of those guys still have exemptions so they will be at the majors. The excitement is there for certain players when they are in the field, but the excitement of golf comes from drama on the course. Tight leaderboard on Sundays, changing of the leader throughout the round on Sat and Sunday. Preeway, Josh Parker and Rob Person 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, GaDawg said: The only one that I really enjoy is The Masters and that's mostly due to the fact they have very few commercials. I use their app. On phone, tablet, and tv. Pick my camera views on each and enjoy all I can I really started to enjoy watching the LPGA and DPWT events recently. If I'm not tied into anything, or am doing casual honey do lists inside, I'll put on whatever is playing. LiV started down the path of their own stream service, but is also trying to maintain their current viewing contracts. Even talks of YT subscriptions. The majors are great, but the Korn Ferry tours have been getting some traction too. I'm looking forward to the new up and coming players. Some have actice YT And IG channels, some dont. GaDawg, ShimmyCocoBop, Josh Parker and 1 other 4 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/as-pga-tour-liv-saga-endures-fan-frustration-is-turning-into-apathy/ I think this article sums it up. Many golfers and viewers (myself included) are just exhausted from it all and have little reason or excitement to watch golf outside of youtube golf at this point. Majors excluded. I am wondering about the dilution as well, nothing new in golf, trying to get the name players to play in every event. I believe once the merger is complete and we see what the commitments by the best players in the world are, then we will have a better idea however am I going to watch Patrick Cantlay at the "bob hope desert classic" probably because I love watching Pros play some of the courses I have played, or the Waste Management in Phoenix, yeah probably as I am not playing much in the winter but the average golfer maybe not. Lots of interesting things coming down the pipe I am sure... Josh Parker and Rob Person 2 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Shaw said: I am wondering about the dilution as well, nothing new in golf, trying to get the name players to play in every event. I believe once the merger is complete and we see what the commitments by the best players in the world are, then we will have a better idea however am I going to watch Patrick Cantlay at the "bob hope desert classic" probably because I love watching Pros play some of the courses I have played, or the Waste Management in Phoenix, yeah probably as I am not playing much in the winter but the average golfer maybe not. Lots of interesting things coming down the pipe I am sure... I'm on the wake me up when we get there phase of a long road trip. Tired of playing games, don't want to listen to the radio or read a book. Just let me sleep till it's over and we get there. Truly it has all killed every little bit of joy I had watching golf. The majors will always be good to great, but the rest is the pure definition of optional viewing. Between commercial loads, bad timing (that's a me thing) and so many of the good story lines been taken away and focus being on the two leagues and their nonsense I'm out. Rob Person, Preeway, ShimmyCocoBop and 3 others 5 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParFore74x Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think that I have officially hit the point where majors are the only tournaments that I have interest in watching. The drama of the division has definitely taken away any real interest that I’ve had in watching some of the other tournaments. There are still great players on the PGA Tour and I may tune in here and there but not as much as I used to. Rob Person 1 Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° & 58° w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolter1 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Since I have ESPN+, I enjoy watching the regular events on Thursdays and Fridays, and not so much on the weekends unless it is a major event. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 SFT 10.5 Fairway Woods: Ping SFT G425 3-5 Hybrid Ping G410 4H Irons; Ping G425 5-LW Putter: Ping Anser 2 Ball: Titleist Tour Speed/AVX Bag: Titleist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZJeb67 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 11 hours ago, GaDawg said: The only one that I really enjoy is The Masters and that's mostly due to the fact they have very few commercials. I agree, so many sporting events have crossed from entertainment to brief interludes between commercials. I'd much rather watch 10-20 minute highlights recapping an event than waste hours being subjected to the same ad countless times. Although I am partial to creative football ads like the Heismann House or wayback to the Reebok Terry Tate office linebacker GaDawg and Rob Person 2 Quote Driver/3H Mavrik 22 5H/SW: Edge 5-PW: MT-86 OS 56/60: Kirkland Signature Putter: White Hot Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 42 minutes ago, ZJeb67 said: creative football ads In the argument for , the GREATEST ADS of ALL TIME!!! Rob Person and ZJeb67 2 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Being honest, I find myself watching less and less golf. I used to watch almost every tournament. The break up I think has diluted the viewing. I really don't care to watch anyone left on the PGA with the exception of Finau. If he is not contending, nobody left strikes my fancy. Most of the players I like are on the LIV, but the shotgun start, prevents watching someone teeing off last, and trying to win, so I do find it a little broken up to watch. Hopefully the powers that be will come up with something to make week to week viewership, more engaging. Like many, I am down to watching, the Masters, US Open, Waste Management, and the Magical Kenya Open(because I went there on vacation). But as I have gotten older(57 not really that old), it may not really be about the golf quality or dispute at all. I try to spend as little time watching tv as I can, and get our and "actually do" something. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Truly it has all killed every little bit of joy I had watching golf. The majors will always be good to great, but the rest is the pure definition of optional viewing. Between commercial loads, bad timing (that's a me thing) and so many of the good story lines been taken away and focus being on the two leagues and their nonsense I'm out. I agree wholeheartedly about too much being made about the drama between the two tours. It is definitely harder to watch without all the names at every event but I have found enjoyment watching the rookies try to make a name for themselves as well. Rob Person and funkyjudge 1 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 8 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I'm on the wake me up when we get there phase of a long road trip. Tired of playing games, don't want to listen to the radio or read a book. Just let me sleep till it's over and we get there. Truly it has all killed every little bit of joy I had watching golf. The majors will always be good to great, but the rest is the pure definition of optional viewing. Between commercial loads, bad timing (that's a me thing) and so many of the good story lines been taken away and focus being on the two leagues and their nonsense I'm out. i totally understand, and thanks for sharing those thoughts. Off topic a bit but i had a meeting with my swing coach last week, kind of a year end wrap-up. He toured on the Canadian Tour in the 90's and I mentioned "burn out" to him. I am feeling a bit burnt out from focusing so much on my game the last 8 years, full tilt. For me I think it is a bit of "the time of year, and all the noise going on with professional golf, and having a C+ year in competition". I still enjoy watching and learning golf on television, I really enjoyed watching the PNC with Tiger, watching his swing, he always calms down my rhythm. And his interaction with Lee Trevino gives me hope that this great game is still intact. Can you imaging the GOAT taking to the time to see Lee on the range? So special to me. I had a fun day on the course yesterday, playing twice more this week then take 2 weeks off over the holidays, recharge the batteries a bit.. Rob Person 1 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 19 hours ago, higherplane said: With John Rahm, Smith, Kopeka, DeChambeau on one tour and Scheffler, McIlroy, Hovland, Schauffele, Cantlay on another (2023 majors 2 each). We have reached the point of significantly lesser fields in the Pro golf across the world. Hopefully this doesn't effect the quality of viewership. It already has affected MY viewing of PGA Tour golf events, to the point that I no longer watch the PGA Tour on TV (I wasn't the biggest viewer, but I watched a bit of the non-Major event broadcasts). I watch some of the major event broadcasts, but far from every minute (and I don't record events for later viewing). The Open Championship gets the largest percentage of my major golf viewing time, followed by the Masters. Course setup for the U.S. Open has made a joke of that tournament, so I do not really find it to be enjoyable to watch that event very much, and the PGA Championship is "just OK", so if I have anything else that I could be doing when that event is being telecast, chances are I will not be watching it. Rob Person 1 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 10 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I'm on the wake me up when we get there phase of a long road trip. Tired of playing games, don't want to listen to the radio or read a book. Just let me sleep till it's over and we get there. Truly it has all killed every little bit of joy I had watching golf. The majors will always be good to great, but the rest is the pure definition of optional viewing. Between commercial loads, bad timing (that's a me thing) and so many of the good story lines been taken away and focus being on the two leagues and their nonsense I'm out. I'm with you there, Jamie! Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Maybe it's a bit sideways off topic, but I enjoyed watching the amateur championships too. Talk about emotional Rollercoasters Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 19 hours ago, higherplane said: With John Rahm, Smith, Kopeka, DeChambeau on one tour and Scheffler, McIlroy, Hovland, Schauffele, Cantlay on another (2023 majors 2 each). We have reached the point of significantly lesser fields in the Pro golf across the world. Hopefully this doesn't effect the quality of viewership. Short answer to your thread title question, yes. I'll continue to watch whatever tour events are available through my programming package; which will be a mix of LPGA, CT, KF, DP, NCAA, and PGAT. For the most part I have it on as background entertainment when on the forum or doing other computer work. The vast majority of other programs give me a headache and make my eyes and ears bleed... thus far, golf has not reached that level of non value... but they seem to be working hard at giving hollywood a run for its money. Rob Person 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) I was kind of hoping a new major would develop out of the mud. There's probably a greater case now to have another major outside of the US (take your pick where) and an 'open' format would be favourable as well. The whole west coast swing thing is a snooze fest as far as I'm concerned. Edited December 24, 2023 by jaskanski Rob Person and Jim Shaw 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 6:58 AM, jaskanski said: I was kind of hoping a new major would develop out of the mud. There's probably a greater case now to have another major outside of the US (take your pick where) and an 'open' format would be favourable as well. The whole west coast swing thing is a snooze fest as far as I'm concerned. im not against that idea, problem is if there is a 5th major it would probably default to Sawgrass, but you are right, one outside the US would be more intriguing for me as well... GaDawg and Rob Person 2 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) On 12/19/2023 at 1:50 AM, GolfSpy_APH said: I'm on the wake me up when we get there phase of a long road trip. Tired of playing games, don't want to listen to the radio or read a book. Just let me sleep till it's over and we get there. Truly it has all killed every little bit of joy I had watching golf. The majors will always be good to great, but the rest is the pure definition of optional viewing. Between commercial loads, bad timing (that's a me thing) and so many of the good story lines been taken away and focus being on the two leagues and their nonsense I'm out. +1. I’m beyond tired of the drama. I’ll always watch The Masters, the US Open and The Players but the rest is optional. Where I used to block out time to watch many other tournaments, I don’t anymore, I can find plenty to do. If I have nothing to do, I’m as likely to watch the LPGA as the PGA - I have yet to watch any LIV event, other than a 10 minute sample in their first year and I don’t see that changing. I don’t blame the defectors for grabbing the money (honestly glad to see many of them go other than Cam Smith and Rahm), but I’m not interested in their product. Edited December 25, 2023 by Middler GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Middler said: +1. I’m beyond tired of the drama. I’ll watch majors and The Players but the rest is optional. Where I used to block out time to watch other tournaments, I don’t anymore, I can find plenty to do. If I have nothing to do, I’m as likely to watch the LPGA as the PGA - I have yet to watch any LIV event, other than a 10 minute sample in their first year and I don’t see that changing. That's where this all gets a little scary for the tours. When the viewing is bad and ppl are tied is it, it then becomes very optional. I'll get up at 2am to watch an F1 race. Mainly because there are only 22 races per season. Football used to be the same way. There are only 20 weeks or so with payoffs. There is too much golf, too many commercials that outside of the majors and maybe a handful of others it doesn't seem special or enticing. Not too mention Thursday and Friday coverage is usually borderline unwatchable. Something big needs to change to get interest back for many and that doesn't seem to be happening anytime this season. Preeway, Alan Scalzi, GaDawg and 1 other 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I think if LIV gets a real TV audience the PGA regular tour events that go up against it will be tough sledding. This is on top of other programming in various major sports competing for eyes every weekend will make it tough. It’s really too bad for regular PGA tour events since they are great charity events for local communities and have long traditions in many cases. Quote TSR 3 9.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 5 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Scotty Special Select - Squareback 2 - 35” / Super Stroke Slim 3.0 Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current MCC Plus 4 Sensor / Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KC Golf said: I think if LIV gets a real TV audience the PGA regular tour events that go up against it will be tough sledding. I haven’t seen any evidence that LIV has any audience. There’s no evidence so far, the CW deal has been a dud so far and LIV is still producing the broadcast and paying for it, not CW. Edited December 25, 2023 by Middler Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Middler said: Edited December 25, 2023 by Middler Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 4 hours ago, KC Golf said: I think if LIV gets a real TV audience the PGA regular tour events that go up against it will be tough sledding. This is on top of other programming in various major sports competing for eyes every weekend will make it tough. It’s really too bad for regular PGA tour events since they are great charity events for local communities and have long traditions in many cases. Golf will always be last in the ratings, except for maybe tennis. If CW realizes they need to broadcast the LIV events on delay rather than live, then I think LIV could catch up to the run of the mill tournaments. Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The rise of youtube golf and such has certainly pulled attention of various golf viewers. Then add in how OEMs are giving that great recognition with sponsorships and partnerships it shows that viewership is being split. While many see youtube golf as just entertainment (which it is) and less serious, that is the golf which many prefer and choose to watch. The slog of watching pro golf over 4 days with 18+ minutes of commercials every hour works great for those wanting background noise. Entertainment it can be a lot tougher and it is more suited to hardcore fans. Of course this is all just my opinion. In terms of LIV golf, there is just so little data to reference. They don't show or display their numbers anymore and when they did it was pretty abysmal. May Rahm changes it ever so slightly, however not likely. A shift in the way we consume or watch golf is needed. Baseball has changed for the betterment of watching, so has cricket, curling and many others as the fan and viewer experience has been taken into consideration to improve the product for viewing. Pro golf hasn't done this and I hope something dramatic changes to make me want to watch more than the majors. I actually look forward more to reading @Splatt reviews here on the forum and recaps leading into an event then the event itself. Splatt 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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