JCole Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Do you think the price of a round of golf has gotten to pricey? Josh Parker 1 Quote Ping v2 raptor driver ray cook sr900 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I think a lot depends on which course you choose. Some courses do seem over priced but then there are others that are really good value. Like everything else prices have gone up but there plenty of courses that are of a decent quality at reasonable prices JCole, TAGolf13, GaDawg and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: G430 Max Fairway: LTDx Max 3 wood Hybrid: King Tec 3 hybrid Irons: Forged Tec 4-PW + GW Wedges: Jaws 56 SM9 52 Putter: Mallet Ball: Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 hours ago, JCole said: Do you think the price of a round of golf has gotten to pricey? Where I live - Yes. Without question. However my situation is unique and the country I live in everything is expensive. I don't have much reference anymore to how much things are in the US and such, but I think there are various values for different courses. There are bound to be cheaper options, maybe conditions are as nice however it is all relative. Naturally prices of everything surrounding the maintenance and running of a course has gone up and they still need to make money in order to survive so if prices go up as well that makes sense. MarvChamp, TAGolf13, JCole and 6 others 9 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I’m fortunate that golf in Australia is relatively affordable, especially in the area I live. There are clubs that range in price USD255-USD1800 annual fees within 30 minutes from my home. We can play all year round so even better value compared to those with limited seasons. Perhaps the best value golf anywhere is at Barnbougle in Tasmania. World rated golf for USD160 or 95 for locals. bama no 1, Josh Parker, sirchunksalot and 3 others 6 Quote 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hartleracing Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 personally, golf is dirt cheap around me and i have access to some phenomenal courses. Amarillo has 3 public (2 are 36 hole and 1 is 18) and 2 private (1 36 hole, 1 is 18). drive 15 minutes and have 3 more 18 hole courses in canyon. drive an hour radius and have 7 more 18 or 36 hole courses. not a single course is over $100 a round and most are well under the $40 mark for 18 holes. most times i can walk 18 for around $25-$30. golf life here is good. Cfhandyman, Northern Monkey, ZJeb67 and 16 others 14 1 4 Quote Driver- Callaway AI Smoke Max (Ventus TR Blue 60S) 3W- Radspeed (stock stiff) Hybrids- Wilson Staff Fybrid 3h,4h,5h (stiff) Irons- Sub70 659CB 5-PW (Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff) Wedges- Sub70 JB 54,58 (Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff) Putter- Ping ANSER 2 (adjustable length stock) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bama no 1 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Prices have definitely gone up. Some courses are reasonable for what you pay others are not. My issue, do I get what I pay for? I played at a course and the fees where $90 USD for a round. Unfortunately, the course conditions were terrible where half of the greens were dead. Needless to say I was not happy. Cfhandyman, JCole, ZJeb67 and 3 others 6 Quote WITB Cobra Radspeed 10.5 driver Cobra 3 wood Nickent hybrid PXG 0311 3-PW Cleveland zip core wedges 52,56,60 Odyssey/Goodwood putters-models works 7 for odyssey and Goodwood custom putters switch out from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfhandyman Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Where I live in Canada, it can be pricey. Moreover, the season is short, but I have a lot of courses to choose from. One of the metrics I use other than is it a good course, does it provide good value. Good value to me as it applies to golf courses would include the following: 1. It’s a course you would recommend to a friend coming to visit 2. It’s good value for the money. This can include expensive courses 3. It’s accessible to the public and it’s within 30-60 minutes of where you Iive. 4. Pace of play is good (4.25 hours or less on average), it’s a reasonably scenic or walkable course with a good variety of challenge for all golfers 5. It’s a course you’ve played and have/would go back and definitely play again 6. It’s a gem of a course, if it ticks all the above boxes and is very reasonable price wise offering exceptional value for the money. ZJeb67, Peaksy68, JCole and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2 plus, LA golf DJ shaft, 55S 3 wood - TM Stealth plus, Mitsubishi Kai’li. Blue, 5 wood - TM Stealth plus, Hzrdus red, 3 hybrid Mizuno CLK, Fuji pro Irons (5-PW) - Mizuno 921 HMP, Accra IS 80 Wedges, TM MG4 SB 48*/09*, HB 54*/13*, TW 60*/11*, Accra ICWT 95 M4 Putter: L.A.B. DF3, TPT shaft, pistol grip Bag: Vessel Cobra tour stand bag Balls: Titleist ProV1x, Callaway Chrome soft X LS, Bridgestone Tour B XS or Srixon Z star Diamond Tech: Arccos, Bushnell Pro XE rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMendle10 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 12 hours ago, JCole said: Do you think the price of a round of golf has gotten to pricey? Here in NJ it can vastly change from $30 to in county walking rate to upwards of over $200 if you go all the way up north to Ballyowen. I'm fortunate enough to be in somerset county so a $75 season long county card gets you $32 walking rounds on the weekends for all but Neshanic and Neshanic is $72 to ride on the weekends. I would say this is pretty cheap compared to other county courses. You can also find reasonable private memberships as well as expensive ones too. I would say that the course that are over $175 are not worth the price though as they are nice courses but they are not so much nicer where the price is justified. Northern Monkey, bama no 1, ZJeb67 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: TSR3 8°, set to B1, Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Blue 6TX 3 Wood: SIM 3 Wood 15°, Aldila Rouge Silver 7X 3 Hybrid: CLK 18°, Ventus Blue 9X 2 Utility: ZX Utility, LA Golf Tour AXS Blue, (15th club) 4i-AW: ZX7, Tour Issue Dynamic Gold 120's S400 56°: TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 60° TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Mezz1 Max Ball: Tour BX Forum Reviews: Currently Testing Official Member Review Sub 70 TAIII Wedges Official Member Review Zelos 7 Shaft Review Unofficial Vokey SM8 and Wedge & Wedge Works Review Unofficial Srixon 2021 ZX7 Iron Review Unofficial TSR3 Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMacK1961 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Where I am in Mexico, Baja Country Club offers yearly packages of $3500 USD. Bajamar Oceanfront & Golf Resort only has per round pricing ranging from $65-$125 USD. Bajamar does offer us a golfer's club membership which gets us $56/round on Tuesday/Thursday mornings when we have our bi-weekly skins game and when we have our monthly tournaments. We also get that $56 price after 2:00pm. Josh Parker and bama no 1 2 Quote "It's only rock and roll...but I like it." - Mick Jagger "It is not the will to win that matters-Everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." - Paul "Bear" Bryant "If anything is worth doing, it is worth doing with all your heart." - the Buddha What's in the bag: Driver Taylormade Qi10 Standard, 3W Callaway RazrFit Extreme, 5W - Cobra Fly Z XL, Wilson D9 4 hybrid, Heat II Single Length Irons 5-SW, Snake Eyes 60' LW What's on my feet: Squarz/Under Armour Charged Draw 2 Bag Boy Quad XL Push Cart w/Bag Boy CB15 bag Where I play: Baja Country Club - Ensenada, Baja Califorinia, Mexico/Bajamar Oceanfront Golf Resort, Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1993 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 The rising costs definitely make me glad to be military that's for sure! My local Base course (Sewell's Point GC in Norfolk, VA) is extremely well kept for being a military course, and you cant beat the price. I'm able to walk 9 for 13$. But even so, the nicer courses in the area aren't bad either. Virginial Beach National GC is 70$ for VA residents, and 89$ otherwise on the weekends. Cant complain much about that!! Definitely gonna soak up as many rounds as I can before I get out next year. MarvChamp, ZJeb67, Josh Parker and 2 others 5 Quote What's In The Bag: Bag: Ghost Golf GT-14 Patriot Cart Bag Push Cart Mafia: 3-Wheel Golf Cart Driver: AI Smoke Max D 10.5* w/ Project X Denali Blue 60 Hybrid: AI Smoke 4H(21*) w/ Project X Cypher 2.0 70HYB Irons: 5-PW ZX5 MKII w/ KBS Tour Lite Wedges: CBX 4 Zipcore 50*, RTX 6 Zipcore 54*/58* Putter: DF3, Green 65*/35 Balls: Tour X Grips: Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize Tech: Garmin Approach S70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrnzee Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Prices have absolutely gotten too high for a round of golf. It's one thing if you're paying for a luxury stay-and-play experience, but if you're just going out for a weekend round, I don't think any standard public course should be more than $100. A perfect example is a course outside Chicago called Ravisloe CC. This course used to be one of my favorites to play. Donald Ross designed, beautiful clubhouse, easily walkable, and only about $70-80 to play. Now due to higher demand, they've raised the price over $100/round. I like the course a lot, but it's not a $100+ level course. It's unfortunate because my friends and I have essentially removed certain courses we like from our rotation simply based on unreasonable green fees. Seems like everything these days (flights, hotels, concerts, golf) is just charging the absolute maximum price they can gauge from consumers. Hoping there's a correction soon, but I'm not sure how that would even happen unless people stop golfing altogether. Swood1994, ZMendle10, Josh Parker and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current WITB: Bag: MV2 Golf Bag Driver: G425 Max 9.0º,Ventus Blue Velocore 6S Fairway: TSR2 3 wood 15º,Ventus Red Velocore 7S Driving Iron: U505 2-iron, Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85S Irons: P7CB (4-PW), Nippon Modus Tour 120 Stiff (testing in progress) Wedges: 50.09 SB, 54.11 SB, 58.11 SB Putter: Ai-ONE Jailbird Mini DB 35" Ball: Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopy79 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I would say greens fees have gone up depending on the amenities and the area where they are located. Interesting to see the various rates from different parts of the US. Here in the south Dayton OH area, I have some amazing private club courses nearby that are "member only" but would easily be north of $100 to play if lucky enough to know someone. The nicer public courses are anywhere from $60-$75 riding 18. If I drive about 30-40 minutes away there are some great rates at some decent public courses where you can play 18 on the weekend for $45 or less. Those are the courses I started up playing golf again on last year. I like them. Will probably try the nicer public tracks close to me this year. They have decent annual membership packages ($2000 unlimited w/cart) that, if I like the course & service, would be tempting to look into down the road. Josh Parker, ZJeb67, Awtatman and 2 others 5 Quote Current WITB: Driver: Kirkland Signature, adj. 10.5 Evenflow Riptide-Stiff, w/JumboMax Tour Series grip Fairway: KE4 3W w/KE4 75-R Irons MMB Forged 3-PW w/TT Dynamic Gold Lite Wedges: Vokey SM10 wedges 48.10F, 54.10S, 60.08M Putter: Sycamore 008 Mallet Preferred Ball: Vice Tour, or Vice Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyN Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Yes and some have gotten out of hand. The courses that the PGA tour uses around here can be $315 a round for a Saturday morning in season. I can play it for $40 in the heat of summer. I spend $30-90 for a round. But in season those prices are $120-280 for the extact same courses I play. Josh Parker, ZJeb67 and bama no 1 2 1 Quote G430 Max 10k 9° 3+ Hy-wood 17° 4+ Hy-wood 20° 4 Hybrid 22° Zx5 mkII 5i-P CBX 48°, CBX FF 53° & 58° Frontline Elevado Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I know alot of the courses around me have gone thru the roof. The issue I hear from everyone is that it's the 6hr round that makes the price even worse. Quote Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue Titleist TSR2 4w 16* Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75* MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Having read through this thread it does seem to me that the prices in the US are quite high compared to here in the UK. You can get some really good deals over here, especially if there is a group of you playing. As an example the year before last a group of us from work booked a 3 day stay at Celtic Manor which was the host for 2010 Ryder Cup. We had 2 nights dinner bed and breakfast plus a round on each of the 3 courses. This cost £420 and you also got a metal 2010 bag tag engraved with your name to show you’d played the Ryder Cup course. As a high end course I thought this was pretty good value GaDawg, Shapotomous, JCole and 1 other 2 2 Quote Driver: G430 Max Fairway: LTDx Max 3 wood Hybrid: King Tec 3 hybrid Irons: Forged Tec 4-PW + GW Wedges: Jaws 56 SM9 52 Putter: Mallet Ball: Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMendle10 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 21 hours ago, Byrnzee said: Prices have absolutely gotten too high for a round of golf. It's one thing if you're paying for a luxury stay-and-play experience, but if you're just going out for a weekend round, I don't think any standard public course should be more than $100. Couldn't agree more. My buddies and I go to PA occasionally to make a day out of it and there the courses are all well under $100 and have some of the most unique layouts because of the terrain. ZJeb67, snoopy79 and Byrnzee 3 Quote Driver: TSR3 8°, set to B1, Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Blue 6TX 3 Wood: SIM 3 Wood 15°, Aldila Rouge Silver 7X 3 Hybrid: CLK 18°, Ventus Blue 9X 2 Utility: ZX Utility, LA Golf Tour AXS Blue, (15th club) 4i-AW: ZX7, Tour Issue Dynamic Gold 120's S400 56°: TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 60° TAIII, Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Mezz1 Max Ball: Tour BX Forum Reviews: Currently Testing Official Member Review Sub 70 TAIII Wedges Official Member Review Zelos 7 Shaft Review Unofficial Vokey SM8 and Wedge & Wedge Works Review Unofficial Srixon 2021 ZX7 Iron Review Unofficial TSR3 Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCole Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 Well Colorado is all over the board. The one thing I have noticed is prices have gone up but the quality of the courses has drop. Greens aren’t as good as they should be fairways in bad shape etc. and these are on course that were better taken care of before p GaDawg, snoopy79, ZJeb67 and 1 other 4 Quote Ping v2 raptor driver ray cook sr900 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Cost is going to keep going up likely steadily.. The reason is that a majority of golf is played by a minority of golfers. So if golfers especially those 65+, 17% of which play 50+ times a year are not readily replaced by others willing to take up the 50, or 30, or 20 times a year, then more must be squeezed from those left in the core of 15+ times a year golfers. Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swood1994 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I know they’ve gone up but in CNY I don’t think it’s terrible. I’d say a $10-$15 increase for the public courses in the last 5-7 years. It’s definitely better than other areas in the country but I think that’s due to the limited season. BreakfastBall15, Byrnzee and bama no 1 3 Quote Current WITB: Driver: Paradym 10.5 Ventus Black 6S (currently Testing AI Smoke) Fairway: ST-Z 230 3-Wood (15°) HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 60 Official Test Hybrid: ST-Z 230 Hybrid (19°) Ventus Blue HB-8 Official Test Irons: MP-18 MMC (4-9) Wedges: Vokey SM8 (46.10F, 50.12F, 54.14F, 58.12D) Putter: Select Squareback 2 34.5 Ping Corded 88G PP58 grip double taped Ball: Pro-V1 Reviews: 2023 Red Rooster Sussex Glove Official Forum Test 2023 Mizuno Long Game Official Forum Test 2024 Skytrak+ Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBall15 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, Swood1994 said: I know they’ve gone up but in CNY I don’t think it’s terrible. I’d say a $10-$15 increase for the public courses in the last 5-7 years. It’s definitely better than other areas in the country but I think that’s due to the limited season. My parents live on the Thousand Island Country Club and it’s still very reasonably priced. I think it was $25 for a round last year. Have only played there recently and haven’t played in CNY in 6 years or so since I moved though In OKC public golf is pretty cheap. Anywhere from $25 walking to about $60 with a cart depending on the course and weekday or weekend. Swood1994 and bama no 1 2 Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops, Ventus Blue 6X Fairways: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 3 and 5 wood, Project X Riptide CB 6.0 Hybrid: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 22 degree, Project X Riptide 6.0 Irons: PXG 0311P Gen 5 5-PW, Project X LS 6.5 Wedges: PXG SG2 50, 56(55), Modus 125 Wedge; PXG SG 2 60, KBS 130 Wedge Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Red SB Ball: Maxfli Tour S MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBL_mill3r Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 hours ago, Stuka44 said: Cost is going to keep going up likely steadily.. The reason is that a majority of golf is played by a minority of golfers. So if golfers especially those 65+, 17% of which play 50+ times a year are not readily replaced by others willing to take up the 50, or 30, or 20 times a year, then more must be squeezed from those left in the core of 15+ times a year golfers. I don't think I agree with that. Around here, the new fun term to use is "dynamic pricing"...which means more demand equals a higher price. More customers/players raising the fees for no reason besides demand. Northern Monkey and bama no 1 2 Quote PXG 5th Gen 0311 Driver TaylorMade Burner 2.0 Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Maybe I am wrong, but I believe courses are looking to the future and it potentially is not good. So they are making their money now, while the hype is good. Using catch phrases like Dynamic Pricing, because of "demand" and all of the hype about "new golfers". Make no mistake it is the core, and not new golfers who are paying *****The golfer base increased by 4 percent in 2023, from 21.9 million players to 22.8 million. That's a net increase of 2.3 million people since 2019, and is the highest number of golfers in the game since 26 million in 2010. *****According to the National Golf Foundation's definition, avid golfers play over twenty-five rounds a season and core golfers play at least eight rounds. *****The approximately 13 million Core Golfers in the U.S. represent about half of on-course participants but account for over 90% of annual play and spend. These are the consumers really move the needle in the golf business when it comes to play, spend and overall engagement. *****The number of Boomers in the game increased 4.8 percent to 4.9 million players. (65+ years of age). I didn't want to attach a whole page, but trust me, it says that those 65+ accounted for 29% of all rounds played in 2022, and 1 in 6 or (16.66%) played 50+ rounds(the most recent I could find without paying for the data from NGF) ***** We haven't done a very good job of attracting the generation behind us. So part of our challenge as an industry is we're starting to age out. . . . We have a big gap in that next generation behind us that didn't take up golf like I did at (age) 24. ** Generation X, or those aged 55-64, however, decreased by 3 percent to 3.7 million players. It doesn't matter how many new people try the game , it only matters to courses how many of those people turn into core golfers, now and in the future, for long-term success. And 29% of a courses income is presently from golfers 65+ years of age, and they are they are going to decline over the next 5-10 years, through inability to play, or death. And think about core golfers (8+ rounds) of all ages, who play 90% of all golf(remember it's less than 50% of ALL PEOPLE WHO PLAY). Think about how many golfers play 24+ times a year, my two brothers and I all play 40+ times a year. That's the equivalent of 15, 8 times a year players. So think about how much of this 90% of play is played by relatively few individuals, when you think about individuals playing 100 times a year, or the listed 833,000 individuals over 65 who play 50 + times a year. Calculated at only 50 rounds a year for these 833,000 players, it will require 5.2 million golfers to replace their rounds at 8 per year. Those 65+ are still carrying this game. Now obviously the hope for the game and courses is that there are enough people "trying" the game who as they age will replace the number of rounds these individuals play. It doesn't matter they are a body, they must replace all the rounds being played by these individuals. silver & black 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Living at the southernmost end of US 1 in Key West, I'm in what many would view as a monopoly situation. On one hand, we are lucky to have a good golf course. It's the only 18-hole course within 150 miles. The downside is that we only have one golf course within 150 miles and they can basically set the price they choose. Throw in we're a resort location and it's the southernmost golf course gives the owners even more leverage. Just before COVID, we saw the start of the continuous rise in fees accompanied with elimination of some member benefits. Visitor fees (golf and mandatory cart) in season is now approaching $200. Annual membership fees are increasing $100-$200 per year. Bag storage fees have doubled in the last four or five years. Members used to be able to walk the back nine before 8:30 am and after 2:00 as part of their membership fees. Now, if you want to walk, it an additional $500 on top of your annual membership fee. For all of us who live here full time, we realize we have no options but to either greatly curtail (or eliminate) the game we love or pay the price no matter what. I remember the first time I ever paid $100 to play golf. It was at a conference in the summer of 1993 at The Bear in Traverse City, Michigan. When I finished, my wife asked me how it was? My response was "If I lived here, it would be cheaper to be addicted to cocaine!" With my annual cart fees exceeding my membership fee (I play three times a week, 52 weeks a year), I feel like I'm approaching that financial threshold in real life that I once joked about. StrokerAce 1 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie MSG Tester: Shot Scope LX+ Rangefinder MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons MSG Tester: Titleist Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bama no 1 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Stuka44 said: Maybe I am wrong, but I believe courses are looking to the future and it potentially is not good. So they are making their money now, while the hype is good. Using catch phrases like Dynamic Pricing, because of "demand" and all of the hype about "new golfers". Make no mistake it is the core, and not new golfers who are paying *****The golfer base increased by 4 percent in 2023, from 21.9 million players to 22.8 million. That's a net increase of 2.3 million people since 2019, and is the highest number of golfers in the game since 26 million in 2010. *****According to the National Golf Foundation's definition, avid golfers play over twenty-five rounds a season and core golfers play at least eight rounds. *****The approximately 13 million Core Golfers in the U.S. represent about half of on-course participants but account for over 90% of annual play and spend. These are the consumers really move the needle in the golf business when it comes to play, spend and overall engagement. *****The number of Boomers in the game increased 4.8 percent to 4.9 million players. (65+ years of age). I didn't want to attach a whole page, but trust me, it says that those 65+ accounted for 29% of all rounds played in 2022, and 1 in 6 or (16.66%) played 50+ rounds(the most recent I could find without paying for the data from NGF) ***** We haven't done a very good job of attracting the generation behind us. So part of our challenge as an industry is we're starting to age out. . . . We have a big gap in that next generation behind us that didn't take up golf like I did at (age) 24. ** Generation X, or those aged 55-64, however, decreased by 3 percent to 3.7 million players. It doesn't matter how many new people try the game , it only matters to courses how many of those people turn into core golfers, now and in the future, for long-term success. And 29% of a courses income is presently from golfers 65+ years of age, and they are they are going to decline over the next 5-10 years, through inability to play, or death. And think about core golfers (8+ rounds) of all ages, who play 90% of all golf(remember it's less than 50% of ALL PEOPLE WHO PLAY). Think about how many golfers play 24+ times a year, my two brothers and I all play 40+ times a year. That's the equivalent of 15, 8 times a year players. So think about how much of this 90% of play is played by relatively few individuals, when you think about individuals playing 100 times a year, or the listed 833,000 individuals over 65 who play 50 + times a year. Calculated at only 50 rounds a year for these 833,000 players, it will require 5.2 million golfers to replace their rounds at 8 per year. Those 65+ are still carrying this game. Now obviously the hope for the game and courses is that there are enough people "trying" the game who as they age will replace the number of rounds these individuals play. It doesn't matter they are a body, they must replace all the rounds being played by these individuals. Interesting data to say the least. Being in the golf industry i will say that the price of fertilizer, sand, herbicides and so forth have all gone up. So in order to keep the same profit margins green fees have to keep pace. Hacker60521 1 Quote WITB Cobra Radspeed 10.5 driver Cobra 3 wood Nickent hybrid PXG 0311 3-PW Cleveland zip core wedges 52,56,60 Odyssey/Goodwood putters-models works 7 for odyssey and Goodwood custom putters switch out from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ce05krug Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I typically pay between $65-$90 for a round of 18 in the Charlotte suburbs. Quote Callaway apex 21 dcb irons Paradym driver & 6 hybrid / stealth2 4 hybrid Scotty Cameron Newport 2.0 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCole Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Well Colorado is all over the board. The one thing I have noticed is prices have gone up but the quality of the courses has drop. Greens aren’t as good as they should be fairways in bad shape etc. and these are on course that were better taken care of before Quote Ping v2 raptor driver ray cook sr900 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 We have one private 18-hole course and six 18-hole public courses + three 9-hole courses. Quality ranges from very poor to pretty nice. Prices aren’t too bad compared to other places I’ve been lately… Palm Springs and Phoenix; about $40-50 to walk and $60-75 to ride. Since my wife and I both play a lot, we have an annual couple's membership that includes cart and range that costs $3200. Prices have gone up since COVID, but that’s mostly due to increased cost of operations and higher demand… new golfers that started playing. It’s only going to get worse, because in the last 25 years our community has grown from about 150K to about 400K people, and my course was the last “new” course built in the area but that was 26 years ago. AND it was not a “new” course; it replaced an existing 18-hole course and a 9-hole par 3 course. The last additional 18-hole course built was 30 years ago. It is extremely difficult to get tee times, and I expect prices to go even higher next year. Our most expensive and high-end public course has gone to shotgun starts at 8am and 1pm Fri-Sun. We need another course!!!! Shapotomous 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bama no 1 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, JCole said: Well Colorado is all over the board. The one thing I have noticed is prices have gone up but the quality of the courses has drop. Greens aren’t as good as they should be fairways in bad shape etc. and these are on course that were better taken care of before I do agree with your assessment, higher prices but not better course conditions. GaDawg 1 Quote WITB Cobra Radspeed 10.5 driver Cobra 3 wood Nickent hybrid PXG 0311 3-PW Cleveland zip core wedges 52,56,60 Odyssey/Goodwood putters-models works 7 for odyssey and Goodwood custom putters switch out from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bama no 1 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, ce05krug said: I typically pay between $65-$90 for a round of 18 in the Charlotte suburbs. We had a course here that was great for beginner golf. Was 12 dollars to play 9 walking. I believe it was 20 with a cart for 9. We called it the goat ranch (not the real name). I wish we had one of those courses around here now, id play it everyday. $90 a round is to over the top for me to play. GaDawg 1 Quote WITB Cobra Radspeed 10.5 driver Cobra 3 wood Nickent hybrid PXG 0311 3-PW Cleveland zip core wedges 52,56,60 Odyssey/Goodwood putters-models works 7 for odyssey and Goodwood custom putters switch out from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 My main tracks are no more than $25 to walk 18. Pretty good public courses too. bama no 1 1 Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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