PGA Championship 2024

[GolfSpy_BNG]

Ok this is getting carried away. As I said earlier we don’t know everything. If we can’t keep this civil and keep any name calling or character attacks of Scottie, the officer, pro golfers or members out of the conversation, the staff will have no choice but to end it. 
 

The Staff shouldn’t have to mention this again  

 

[3Putt4Double]

18 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

Ok this is getting carried away. As I said earlier we don’t know everything. If we can’t keep this civil and keep any name calling or character attacks of Scottie, the officer, pro golfers or members out of the conversation, the staff will have no choice but to end it. 
 

The Staff shouldn’t have to mention this again  

 

With that being said, anyone have a prediction on who is gonna come out hit on this course in these conditions? Know some of y'all having been watching this sport much longer than I have, so who's game can adapt to this much rain?

[Lafn96]

Scheffler going out and getting a birdie on the first hole is pretty amazing

[3Putt4Double]

1 minute ago, Lafn96 said:

Scheffler going out and getting a birdie on the first hole is pretty amazing

I agree.. His mind is obviously in the game..Aberg is one of the guys I'm watching today.. He's young and down big.. Is he going to step it up or crack

[jayyarr]

57 minutes ago, Bubba1985 said:

With that being said, anyone have a prediction on who is gonna come out hit on this course in these conditions? Know some of y'all having been watching this sport much longer than I have, so who's game can adapt to this much rain?

min woo is off to a solid start hoping he can keep the rally going after a disappointing day yesterday. On the other side i am really hoping Talor Gooch implodes and misses the cut. I don't really have a problem with any of the liv guys but he's pretty insufferable. But if scottie can  end today in the top 5 after getting arrested knowing ted scott is off the bag tomorrow its hard to think he won't win

Edited May 17 by jayyarr

[Shankster]

I might end up in the top 99% in the PGA Contest this time!

[Berg Ryman]

So just as an aside to the Scheffler nonsense, I looked into the Jefferson County records, Scottie is back for arraignment on 5/21 at 9 am. There I assume either charges will be dropped, lowered, or pled. Hard to see the felony charge sticking because it requires serious physical injury per the statute, but I'm not barred in Kentucky... so take it with a huge ol' grain of salt.

You're now free to continue talking about our quest to Valhalla.

[Shankster]

Still remember when Rory hit into Phil and Rickie last time it was here with purple on. Those were the days.

[Shankster]

Also, I hope BK goes mad today and shoots 10 under

[3Putt4Double]

13 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Also, I hope BK goes mad today and shoots 10 under

Must have Brooks on ur team

[downlowkey]

This ESPN BET second round coverage is _the worst_ thing I’ve ever seen. I get it, the bookmaker sponsor is right there in the name, but through the opening 20 min., prop option odds is _the only_ thing the crew is chirping about. Silver lining, they’re making it easy to actually get some work done this morning, something I’ve always struggled with Thurs/Fri of every major week.

Edited May 17 by downlowkey

[3Putt4Double]

Tied for 7th.. Moving on up (until Xander and the rest of the field actually play today)

[poprocksncoke]

[Northern Monkey]

We don’t know the full circumstances so hard to comment. However look at it this way, if you have a fatality then technically it is a crime scene (or at least would be here in England) and the deceased person may still have been in situ. The scene would need to be kept sterile until the investigation of the scene had been completed. If that was one of your relatives would you want someone driving past just so they can go and play golf?

Without having ALL the facts you can’t make any assumptions but the overriding issue here is someone has lost their life and a family have lost a loved one. Our thoughts should be with them and not whether the cop or Scheffler were at fault

[jayyarr]

an average fan would not have been driving to the course that early in a line of  players specifically getting waved in to access the property when no one else was allowed to.. So i don't really know if that's a fair comparison to make. 

[Shrek74]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

Before people bash Scottie or the officer for doing anything wrong let’s get the whole situation sorted. 
 

There have been reports that have stated that the players were told they could enter and even a few players that did what Scottie did and were waved through. 
 

Bashing anyone’s character at this point including Scottie’s or the cops is just wrong with the contradicting reports so far. 

100% agree here. I have a feeling there were missteps on both sides and it's not a matter of bad character on either side, but just a difficult situation that was mishandled all around. With officers there for the accident (which is something we must not forget someone lost their life this morning) and likely not knowing the situation from the tournament side, blaming them is not prudent in any way.

I'm going to try and ignore any reporting at this point because most outlets just want clicks and will bash anyone to get them. I'll let the situation work itself out and allow the truth to prevail.

[Siamese Moose]

I was there yesterday with my wife. She has a small procedure upcoming on her knee, so we didn't walk everywhere, so I didn't see all of the course. (I did leave her a few times to sit while I went some hillier places.) I'm not a big picture guy, but I attached a few of my better shots. I also focused on seeing the course and more players, so I didn't follow any groups (other than incidentally, as there were a few times we walked forward with groups). I'm sure some of these things are common knowledge to you, but some of the things that stood out to me include:

• Parking sucked. It took nearly two hours from getting off the interstate to getting to the course, including 50 minutes standing in line for the buses. We didn't need it, but others did, and there was no accomodation for handicapped. Unacceptable, PGA.
• Concessions were outstanding. Everything but alcohol was free, and there were plenty of stands, so you never waited, and nobody abused the free food. There were water stations literally everywhere, and almost as many bathrooms. (Needed, since I was obsessive about staying hydrated. It wasn't hot, but it was direct sun for many hours.)
• The Elijah Craig Speakeasy (the only alcohol we had) made an outstanding Old Fashioned. My wife tried their signature Mulligan cocktail, and it was mediocre. (That drink is supposed to be Irish Whiskey, and I think that would be much better than bourbon.)
• Lots of electronic signboards around. They told you who it was, their score, and how far their shot was, including putt distances to the inch.. The only thing I wished was they identified the club pros. I understand why not, but we don't know all of these names, and while I'm not much of a vocal "cheer" guy, I would have been louder for those guys.
• Other than length, the course was nearly defenseless. Super soft fairways (I'm surprised at no casual water spots, but I guess that's what a huge greenskeeping budget will do for you), very receptive greens, and while some of the pins were tucked, they were in flat areas that were very puttable. 
• F'ing long! It's one thing to see 500 yard par 4s on TV, but looking at a hole in person and thinking, "This is a par 4?", woof! 253 yard par 3? At least on that hole, once a group was on the green the following group would hit their tee shots, and then the first would putt out. Dramatic time savings. 
• Back to defenseless, the rough was not nearly as thick as I expected. The muni I played Wednesday was at similar length. Outside the ropes everything was so trampled down that the grass was not an issue. Get farther from the ropes and the rough was eminently playable. The worst spot I saw anybody in was Hisatsune, who pushed his drive on 17 and it ran down a bit of a hill to where he was blocked from the green. From a severe uphill but ball below his feet lie he hit a solid layup to about 80 yards, and then got up and down. I saw him on two other greens, he made the best putts I saw.
• Shortly after that shot, we realized the very stylish woman walking with us was Hisatsune's partner. Tiny, very pretty, and she had this very elegant sweater draped around her neck that had these very cool retro patches of all of the majors. That sweater would sell like mad in most places, but I'm guessing it's a very spendy label.
• You always hear it said, but yes, these guys are all tall and slim.
• But then there's John Daly! In fairness, he looked 50 pounds or more lighter than most pictures I've seen of him. He was the only guy using a cart. It was weird to see him consistently 30-70 yards short of his companions, but inside of 200 he was still awesome. Even with irons and wedges, he has the most extreme shoulder tilt I've ever seen.
• Number 3, 204 yard par 3 into the breeze, the group we watched (Horschel/Kirk/Lee) hit 8, 8 and 7 iron. Life's not fair.
• On our way out we went to the merchandise tent, but we should have gone first and checked our stuff ($10 fee!). At 4:00 PM the line for the checkout was 45 minutes. We noped our way out of there.
• We left a little earlier than planned, as my wife's knee was done. The line to get back on the shuttle buses was only 10 minutes, but it was a 40 minute drive in heavy traffic back to parking. At least it was a high end bus with really nice seats.

Edited to correct a hole number.

Edited May 17 by Siamese Moose

[3Putt4Double]

Hey men, respectfully, I say we drop it and get back to golf.. Every other website is gonna have debates about this, but the reason I love this sight is we are all grown without trolls and talk golf.. with a major going on as we speak, I'm hoping we can talk and bs about it

[Rob Person]

22 minutes ago, Siamese Moose said:

I was there yesterday with my wife. She has a small procedure upcoming on her knee, so we didn't walk everywhere, so I didn't see all of the course. (I did leave her a few times to sit while I went some hillier places.) I'm not a big picture guy, but I attached a few of my better shots. I also focused on seeing the course and more players, so I didn't follow any groups (other than incidentally, as there were a few times we walked forward with groups). I'm sure some of these things are common knowledge to you, but some of the things that stood out to me include:

• Parking sucked. It took nearly two hours from getting off the interstate to getting to the course, including 50 minutes standing in line for the buses. We didn't need it, but others did, and there was no accomodation for handicapped. Unacceptable, PGA.
• Concessions were outstanding. Everything but alcohol was free, and there were plenty of stands, so you never waited, and nobody abused the free food. There were water stations literally everywhere, and almost as many bathrooms. (Needed, since I was obsessive about staying hydrated. It wasn't hot, but it was direct sun for many hours.)
• The Elijah Craig Speakeasy (the only alcohol we had) made an outstanding Old Fashioned. My wife tried their signature Mulligan cocktail, and it was mediocre. (That drink is supposed to be Irish Whiskey, and I think that would be much better than bourbon.)
• Lots of electronic signboards around. They told you who it was, their score, and how far their shot was, including putt distances to the inch.. The only thing I wished was they identified the club pros. I understand why not, but we don't know all of these names, and while I'm not much of a vocal "cheer" guy, I would have been louder for those guys.
• Other than length, the course was nearly defenseless. Super soft fairways (I'm surprised at no casual water spots, but I guess that's what a huge greenskeeping budget will do for you), very receptive greens, and while some of the pins were tucked, they were in flat areas that were very puttable. 
• F'ing long! It's one thing to see 500 yard par 4s on TV, but looking at a hole in person and thinking, "This is a par 4?", woof! 253 yard par 3? At least on that hole, once a group was on the green the following group would hit their tee shots, and then the first would putt out. Dramatic time savings. 
• Back to defenseless, the rough was not nearly as thick as I expected. The muni I played Wednesday was at similar length. Outside the ropes everything was so trampled down that the grass was not an issue. Get farther from the ropes and the rough was eminently playable. The worst spot I saw anybody in was Hisatsune, who pushed his drive on 9 and it ran down a bit of a hill to where he was blocked from the green. From a severe uphill but ball below his feet lie he hit a solid layup to about 80 yards, and then got up and down. I saw him on two other greens, he made the best putts I saw.
• Shortly after that shot, we realized the very stylish woman walking with us was Hisatsune's partner. Tiny, very pretty, and she had this very elegant sweater draped around her neck that had these very cool retro patches of all of the majors. That sweater would sell like mad in most places, but I'm guessing it's a very spendy label.
• You always hear it said, but yes, these guys are all tall and slim.
• But then there's John Daly! In fairness, he looked 50 pounds or more lighter than most pictures I've seen of him. He was the only guy using a cart. It was weird to see him consistently 30-70 yards short of his companions, but inside of 200 he was still awesome. Even with irons and wedges, he has the most extreme shoulder tilt I've ever seen.
• Number 3, 204 yard par 3 into the breeze, the group we watched (Horschel/Kirk/Lee) hit 8, 8 and 7 iron. Life's not fair.
• On our way out we went to the merchandise tent, but we should have gone first and checked our stuff ($10 fee!). At 4:00 PM the line for the checkout was 45 minutes. We noped our way out of there.
• We left a little earlier than planned, as my wife's knee was done. The line to get back on the shuttle buses was only 10 minutes, but it was a 40 minute drive in heavy traffic back to parking. At least it was a high end bus with really nice seats.

This is awesome!  Glad you were able to experience it first hand!  Thanks for sharing the photos!!!

[downlowkey]

36 minutes ago, Bubba1985 said:

Hey men, respectfully, I say we drop it and get back to golf.. Every other website is gonna have debates about this, but the reason I love this sight is we are all grown without trolls and talk golf.. with a major going on as we speak, I'm hoping we can talk and bs about it

Word. For example: considering the combination of a major championship in Kentucky, rain soaked weather forecast and decision to play the ball down - where is all the crucial speculation re: the best mudders in the field?

 

Edited May 17 by downlowkey

[jayyarr]

5 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

Word. For example: considering the combination of a major championship in Kentucky, rain soaked weather forecast and decision to play the ball down - where is all the crucial speculation re: the best mudders in the field?

 

after last year Tom Kim seems pretty experienced at mudding must be why he's still in the top 10

[3Putt4Double]

6 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

Word. For example: considering the combination of a major championship in Kentucky, rain soaked weather forecast and decision to play the ball down - where is all the crucial speculation re: the best mudders in the field?

 

Exactly, gotta think ppl that put in the extra work over ppl that have the natural talent come thru today

[BallsLeon]

Noted mudder Brian Harman looking grumpy out there. Don't know if anyone else saw that club slam bounce back and hit him in the face 

[Hook DeLoft]

29 minutes ago, Bubba1985 said:

Exactly, gotta think ppl that put in the extra work over ppl that have the natural talent come thru today

Scheffler just birdied after a 185ish shot to 5 feet with mud on the ball.  Impressive..

[poprocksncoke]

5 minutes ago, BallsLeon said:

Noted mudder Brian Harman looking grumpy out there. Don't know if anyone else saw that club slam bounce back and hit him in the face 

speaking of which, anyone catch Rahm's two handed club throw?  

[Shapotomous]

3 hours ago, Bubba1985 said:

I agree.. His mind is obviously in the game..Aberg is one of the guys I'm watching today.. He's young and down big.. Is he going to step it up or crack

I need aberg to come back strong since he and theegala are my picks in a pool.

Also somebody tell me when it isnt too soon for the scotty jokes! 

[Saturday Morning Sherpa]

The PGA should tale some accountability on this by not alerting players, delaying the entire tournament starting times or some other proactive action.

This is not to say Scheffler is without blame or accountability, but is is his job and trying to prepare for a major.

[poprocksncoke]

Min Woo Lee said said he and others did the same as Scottie to get around the traffic delays.  I guess Young and Zalatoris both walked to the course.

[Josh Parker]

My picks have tanked.  At least there is some good golf to watch!

[Girldad18]

11 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

My picks have tanked.  At least there is some good golf to watch!

Let's hope E makes the cut at least.