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  1. Just did a full fitting at their HQ in Scottsdale last week. Had some interesting (to me, at least) results...

    1. Driver: nice club, loved the sound, feel and looks of it. But as any good GolfSpy knows those three items matter neither a jot nor a tittle when it comes to performance. While the Gen4 driver performed well, it did not outperform the driver I brought with me - the as yet unreleased XXIO X. They were pretty similar, so it made no sense to get one. FYI - that XXIO X is going to be a good driver for the target golfer. Based on the numbers, we didn't even bother with the 0211 driver. 

    2. FW: I ditched my 3 wood a while ago and decided to go with the Cleveland 18 degree Hy-Wood. It was a good decision, as 3 woods and I are definitely no longer on speaking terms. I have been gaming a Callaway 2-Deep 2-wood - never use it off the deck (low bullets) but it can be a useful weapon off the tee. The fitter made up a Gen 4 2 wood for me - WOW!. The head shape and leading edge means it might - might - be useful off the deck, but off the tee it's a monster. It's going in the bag. 

    3. Hybrid: I'm on again/off-again with hybrids, and the Cleveland Hy-Wood seems to be the right mix of hybrid ease and fairway wood distance for me. Kevin the fitter set me up with an 18 degree Gen 4 hybrid - another WOW moment. Really liked it. Not sure if it will kick the Cleveland out of the bag, but it will be a fun battle. Distance was spot on and ease of launch was welcome. 

    3. Irons: Tried both the 0211 and the Gen 4 0311P. Kevin tried like hell to get me into the Gen4 irons, but the difference between them and the 0211s was minor, with the edge actually going to the 0211 irons. We tried different shafts, and I was very surprised the "stock" Elevate 95s performed best for me. I would have liked to have tried the KBS $ Taper LIte, but according to Kevin, no one has those right now. Thanks Supply Chain! Tried the XF version of the Gen4 - those didn't do squat for me. At $77 per club, the 0211 may be the very best buy in golf. 

    4. Wedges: The next best buy might be the $129 forged wedges. Really liked those as well - I do like the RTZ ZipCore wedges better, but these are a strong second. Liked them much better than the more expensive milled version. And for $129? It's another no-brainer. 

    5. Putters: Didn't like the 0211 models at all, even though I wanted to. The Battle Ready putters, however, were a different story. We didn't do a full fledged putter fitting, but I immediately took to the Blackbird, the Gunboat and the Closer. The Gunboat was the largest head, and was stupid-stable. The Closer is a "full-bodied" blade and might have been the best feeling, but I was sinking putts like crazy with the Blackbird. I have too many freaking putters as it is, so I don't think another one is in the cards. But if it was, it would probably be the Blackbird.  

    Or the Gunboat. 

    Or maybe the Closer. 

    Or maybe I have a problem.

    Bottom line, will be pulling the trigger on the irons, FW and hybrid. Not sure on the wedges yet, I have a crap-ton of inventory to get rid of. Anyone want some old irons? No reasonable offer refused 😎

  2. On 12/14/2021 at 7:43 AM, GolfSpy_BOS said:

    Thank you @GolfSpy_APH for the kind words!

    I’m super excited to join the Mod team and give back to this awesome golf community.  Looking forward to making 2022 our best testing year yet!

    I’ve been fortunate to be a part of a few tests since joining up and even more fortunate to have made one new friends along the way. 

    I know there’s a passionate and unique member base here so it’s going to be a  lot of fun (and probably a lot of work too) to help shape the future of testing here!

    Congrats Bryan! It'll be a blast!!!!

  3. Sitting in the kitchen of a condo belonging to my gracious Canadian hosts at Cottages of Pinehurst National - which is the location of Pinehurst #9.  After three days here I'd say unless you just want to play it for the experience - and I think you should if you want to - #2 and #4 are very fair tee to green, but the greens will make you crazy. We played Pinehurst #9 today and it's very interesting and fun - the greens are a different kind of diabolical, though. Not nearly as slick as 2 and 4, but you gotta be able to read them.  It's fun but a different kind of tough. 

    My hosts suggest #'s 1, 5, 6 and 9 might fit your bill at Pinehurst. Haven't played anywhere else down here, but as others have mentioned, there's no shortage of options. 

  4. 1 hour ago, BostonSal said:

     

    I get it better with the second viewing.  Thank you, Barbajo.

    I'm just not the profitable demographic upon whom the OEMs should focus.

     

    First, having breakthrough new tech for each scheduled product release is simply not believeable to me.

    After all, they don't hold up the product releases for new tech, do they?  They're always right on time.

    It's simply not believable, and the handicaps are not steadily tumbling as a result.

     

    Second, my personal obsession is with fit metrics.  If they were still lathing a solid, oil-hardened persimmon or laminated maple clubhead,

    I could tell them the exact loft, lie angle, and face angle that I want on each wood--not to mention exact swingweight at a given length--and get the clubs in three weeks.  I'm old enough to remember that.  We've gotten an awful lot of multi-piece construction technological breakthrough since them, but we lost the exact fit metrics in the process.  Since I'm the almost the only one talking about that, obviously the targeted demographic doesn't care about these things.  But my desire is that production techniques will be developed that allow old school customization on modern clubheads, knowing all the while that there doesn't seem to be a demand for it..

     

    That's all that I'm trying to say.  People often think that I'm railing against the modern paradigm.  I am most certainly not.  I'm merely suggesting that some of us exist for whom it's not working.

     

    Thank you for your appreciated insights.

     

    I work with OEMs regularly, and they're pretty upfront about what each iteration of their products does. Some shout more loudly than others, but in my dealings with them no one has ever said THIS year's product makes LAST year's product obsolete. They have the demographic information and buying pattern information, so they know most golfers don't buy new irons every year and, believe it or not, a majority of golfers don't buy new drivers every year. So why come out with new stuff every year? 

    Easy - you're selling to a parade. The guy who bought new irons last year probably won't be buying new irons again this year (some do, of course, but it's a minority and OEMs don't count on that), but the guy who bought new irons 5 years ago or 10 years ago is getting the itch and most likely will be in the market. Whatever innovation, enhancements or improvements may be incremental compared to the previous year's model, but it may be meaningful to the guy playing five- or ten-year-old irons. 

    Interestingly, both Callaway and TaylorMade have morphed into two-year product cycles for the most part. The Callaway APEX is the flagship line, and that's always been on a two-year cycle, while the Epic and Mavrik lines are separate and are on alternating release cycles. 2021 was an Epic year, while 2022 will be a Mavrik year. Shades of difference perhaps, but each line has its own technology. 

    TaylorMade goes yearly with the SIM line of woods and irons, but the P-series irons are on two-year cycles. 

    PING and Titleist are on alternate year cycles with their various products as well. COBRA's main metal woods and GI iron lines are yearly, but their better player products are on two-year cycles. 

    My own opinion here, so please don't take it the wrong way, but it's easy to get cynical about golf equipment, but it often leads to convenient narratives that don't entirely reflect reality. Innovation may be incremental, but that doesn't make it meaningless. And you see it in the blog's comments section all the time, but no, OEMs don't think we're stupid and they most certainly know people don't buy new stuff every year. Some do, and trust me, they're okay with that, but they realize they're selling to a parade, and the parade never really ends. 

     

  5. 2 hours ago, BostonSal said:

    The podcast was very interesting.

    Barbajo had excellent info on a topic that really interestd me a lot.

     

    One thing was very disturbing.

    He said that you could be a golf company looking to constantly innovate or a company trying to sell what you're known to  make.

    The former is what's succeeding, and the latter is what I would rather see.

    All the innovation-- contriving new tech for the scheduled new product rollout-- has resulted in the average handicap going from 17 to 16 over the past few decades.   

    I am very unimpressed with that.

    It's an effort to get people to buy what they don't apperently need if their index calculations are going to remain the same anyway.

     

    Slow moving evolation of the human species alone may have caused that 1 shot move.

     

    At the end of the day, you're hitting a ball with a stick, and we've had sticks made for doing that pretty well for a very long time.

    The tech has been pretty damned good for a long time, and we're still just hitting a ball with a stick.

     

    I'm in the vast minority, and I'm not honestly looking to argue with the majority who feel differently,

    --just airing out my own different view--

     

    but I'd rather have a company where you could tell them the loft, loft gapping, lie angles, face angles, bounce, etc. 

    that you want and they'd spend their efforts on providing specific fit metrics rather than new and contrived innovation. 

     

    A company that could develop manufacturing techniques that made possible on new equipment

    that customization which was once possible on antiquated, simpler equipment ,

    this at affordable pricing,  would have REALLY made an innovation breakthrough.

     

    Again, this is only what I'd love to see, and I'm not trying to impose it on those who see it differently.

     

     

     

    Not sure you got the quote quite right. What I said  - or at least meant to say - was that for companies to survive they have to constantly remind themselves what business they're really in, and ultimately it comes down to this: you can either be in the business of designing and making gear that people want to buy, or you can be in the business of trying to sell people the gear you're already making.  The former means you're are focused on the customer, their wants and needs and looking to offer true innovation that will benefit the customer. That approach tends to be more market driven. 

    The latter is more production driven and you wind up doing things the way you've always done them for no other reason than that's the way you've always done them, and hell, it's worked so far so why change? That type of thinking slowly, but surely, takes over the company while competition looks to fill the void offering something new, exciting, fun, better performing, more innovative or just plain different. 

    The former tends to be market-focused so trends and changes in customers needs and expectations don't catch you by surprise. You tend to lead rather than follow, even though you may goof up every once in a while. 

    For every Apple, there's a dozen Polaroids.

  6. A little shameless self-promotion here...

    Our recent History's Mysteries article on Spalding Golf led to an invite to appear on the Talkin' Golf History podcast with host Conner Lewis. The podcast went live late last night and if you have the time, I hope you'll find it fun and interesting. After listening to it, you can tell I'm a tad nervous since I'm talking so fast!  But it was a hell of a lot of fun and Connor really knows his stuff - he has a wealth of knowledge and a ton of stories that really liven up the discussion.  He's pretty impressive. 

     

    Anyway, here a link to the podcast. Grab a beer and enjoy!

    https://share.fireside.fm/episode/whZrOd2Z+ZT1H8bGM

  7. One of the takeaways from yesterday's article on the Electric Trolley Revolution is the fact that, with cellular connectivity, companies such as Motocaddy and the rest have the ability to add whatever features to their carts that golfers might want (click here if you haven't read the piece yet). 

    The mechanical functionality of the cart is pretty much there -- I'm sure there will be materials upgrades, battery upgrades, etc in the coming years, but the basic functionality is spot on (although Oliver Churcher did say the possibility exists for a "hovercraft" type of cart - count me IN!). So the question to you all is this: what kind of features would you like to see in an electric trolley?

    Do you want a bigger screen to watch football during your Saturday or Sunday rounds in the fall? Is a follow-type function important to you? Personally, I did enough illegal stuff in the 70s and 80s to make me paranoid enough, so I don't need something following me around for 18 holes, but that's just me 😉 .  Since the thing has a battery, do you want a bag with a built-in cooler? Do you want shot tracking - like a built-in ARCOSS or Shotscope? The sky is quite literally the limit, so what features or apps would be cool, fun or helpful - anything that can make  your round more enjoyable. 

    Fire away - let's see what we can come up with./ 

     

     

  8. 20 hours ago, sixcat said:

    Fun fact: Wright and Ditson is featured prominently in "The Greatest Game Ever Played." Both the book and the movie. It's the retail store where Francis Ouimet worked. It can be seen on the side of the delivery carriage when Ouimet delivers irons to The Country Club. It's a commonly known "secret" that George Wright had Ouimet on the sporting goods store payroll for the purposes of branding and brand awareness. Wright fully funded Ouimet's amateur golf career leading up to and during the 1913 US Open. In exchange, Ouimet would bring brand awareness to the golf equipment Spalding (and Wright and Ditson) were selling. 

     

    Thank you for all the kind words gents. This was another fun one to research and write, with a TON of info left on the cutting room floor. I found it fascinating the two Hall of Fame baseball players - Spalding and Wright - were such huge influences in turn of the century golf.  And I played the George Wright course in Boston dozens of times without having a clue as to who he was.

    Also uncovered an interesting tidbit about Mark O'Meara playing a practice round with Tiger in 99 or so. Tiger couldn't get his ball to spin around the green like O'Meara did, and kept asking O'Meara how he did it. O'Meara basically said "watch and learn, youngster," and that he'd tell Tiger the secret if he couldn't figure it out. About a half dozen holes later Tiger looked at O'Meara and said, "it's the ball."  Soon Tiger was playing the NIke Tour Accuracy (made by Bridgestone but designed by NIke) and won 4 majors in a row. 

    And I didn't realize how involved Bobby Jones was in the business and product development end of Spalding. I knew he was a spokesman and had his name on clubs, but didn't realize he was also a VP and director of research. Also didn't realize just how big the Spalding ball empire was - Scott White was there when Spalding was making 25 to 26 million DOZEN balls a year - they were really good at it. No wonder both Callaway and TaylorMade wanted in. Callaway was given last look in the bankruptcy proceedings in no small part to their commitment to keep the factory open and the jobs in Chicopee. TaylorMade would not make that promise. 

    I also thought White's description of the KKR management was very honest and on point. He still has the greatest amount of respect for Jim Craigie and Ed Arztz - but he did admit they didn't know the golf business the way the Spalding rank and file did. They wanted to make the Spalding business more sophisticated - which leads to, gulp, meetings - and White admitted the Spalding team wasn't ready for that. 

    And the $1 billion pricetag KKR paid? In 1996? That's just crazy. One source, who asked not to be named or directly quoted, told me KKR really didn't do their homework and thought the purchase was done more because it was a golf company than because it was a good business opportunity. Apparently a relative of one of KKR's principals, or perhaps it was KKR itself, owned a golf resort in Southern California - I think La Quinta -  and they thought there would be some synergy there. 

    The Cisneros group was also interesting to learn about. That is one HUGE outfit. They had the rights to run Sears Roebuck, Pepsi and other huge brands in Latin America, and have eventually - thanks to that $1 billion from KKR - developed into a ginormous telecommunications powerhouse. 

    Perhaps the biggest takeaway - from White and others - is the fact the friendships among Spalding employees from the 90s and early 2000s last to this day. They have a Facebook group and group text chats going on, they have reunions (the most recent was a COVID casualty), and the celebrate birthdays, weddings and anniversaries. They were all about the same age when they started and have watched each other, and their children, grow up and it was obvious there's still a strong bond. Got me to thinking - the loyalty you have is to people more so than a company and while companies come and go, those bonds don't really go away.  

    And one question for @BIG STU - someone asked in the comments section and I couldn't remember. The Spalding Bird on Ball irons are #3onyour pure forged blade list. What are the Top 2? If I had to guess, it's a MacGregor VIP model and either the Wilson FG17 or a Mizuno model. Inquiring minds want to know...

  9. 17 hours ago, BostonSal said:

    Here's an example.  The Wilson Staff CB is one of the nicest looking clubs on TGW.

    But with all of Wilson's competitors, TGW can take custom requests to the manufacturer and the manufacture will ship the clubs with the request length and lie angle adjustments, the requested shafts, and the requested grips directly to the customer.

    That goes for Callaway, TaylorMade, Titleist, Ping, Mizuno...just about everybody

    Not Wilson.  NO OPTIONS OFFERED.

    If I WANTED to choose the Staff CB more than any of the others, this would possibly push me to Titleists or Mizunos.

    I don't want steel shafts. They make my hands swell by the back nine.

    I only play wrap style grips.

    I need 1º flat except for Mizunos.

    See my point?

    Wilson has made excellent golf clubs since the Dead Sea was perfectly healthy.

    What's their excuse for this?

    Interesting situation - not sure why TGW doesn't offer options with Wilson. I do know you can go directly to Wilson's website and custom order any iron with your preferred shaft with length and lie alterations available. There's a possibility this may be more of a TGW thing than a Wilson thing - I'm not sure WHY it would be a TGW thing instead of a Wilson thing, but it's not that Wilson doesn't offer custom options because they do. 

  10. 48 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

    I also immediately thought they looked a lot more like the CBX than the UHX, so you're not alone there. 

    Based on the pics that accompany @GolfSpy Barbajo's excellent article (4th in the series, right John?) I think this line looks WAY better than either the CBXs or the UHXs. The top down view looks pretty good for a fairly chonky iron. Also interesting to note there is higher MOI here vs the Halos. I'd probably still lean more towards the Halo XLs due to their size and the rails, but I think I (and a lot of other weekend warriors) would do just fine with these also.

    Been trying out the 5-7-PW demo set that Cleveland sent me. Gotta say, they are easy to get up in the air. They're different than the XL Halos - MOI is higher with the XLs, but I'd say overall forgiveness and ease is greater with the Halos. They have a super wide sole and Gliderails - so there's no real comparison. Halos are more of a super-duper game improvement club, while the XLs are solidly game improvement, if that makes sense. 

    I was most impressed by feel - to the point when I first hit them I had to stop and go "whoa." Cleveland did a very good job with these. I agree with above comments about the toplines - a little leaner than the UHX. I'm not a fan of the blue highlights - I did like the looks of the UHX better, but Cleveland told us they intentionally made the XLs look for like a game improvement iron. The market apparently didn't think the UHX irons looked enough like GI irons. 

    Cleveland also said UHX sales have actually ticked up in their second year. They were frankly a little disappointed in first year sales, but apparently they caught on in year two. 

  11. This showed up in my Inbox this week from SQAIRZ founder and owner Bob Winskowicz and as both the husband and son of a cancer survivor, it made me glad to see. Below is the press release, but I also thought I'd share the email, as it shows it not some kind of publicity stunt to sell shoes. If you knew Bob, you know he's not the type of person to do that, but you need to hear it in his words, not mine:

     

     

    John 

    Thanks for the text exchange and appreciate you sharing the SQAIRZ – ACS “Take A Swing at Cancer” partnership program with the My Golf Spy team.    

    Unfortunately we have all been touched by cancer in some way and too many of us have seen it up close and personal.  In 2007, I lost my brother Jeff to an aggressive form of lymphoma.  It was less than 3 weeks between his diagnosis and his passing.   From a bedside seat, my parents, brothers and sisters watched as the cancer radically changed his appearance and took his life at the age of 44.  That scene that will live with me forever.   

    This past February, I was invited to the ACS 2021 Impact Makers event in Florida where several (breast) cancer survivors spoke about their battle with cancer.  We were taken on an emotional roller coaster that began with a gut- wrenching diagnosis and ended with the joy of being cancer free.  We heard from medical professionals who were very proud of the advancements in detection and treatment of cancer.  There was an incredible, almost tangible passion for the fight and an overwhelming sense of optimism towards finding a cure. 

    One of the presenters talked about how breast cancer effects both men and women which took many of us men by surprise.  He spoke about a program called “Real Men Wear Pink” which is directed at men to raise awareness (and money) about  breast cancer.   I left the event inspired and highly motived to use the SQAIRZ brand/platform to create more awareness.

    I decided to create a men’s and women’s PINK golf shoe to acknowledge, support and promote (breast) cancer awareness, education, treatment, and cure.   SQAIRZ will be donating $30 per pair to the ACS and our goal is to present a check somewhere north of $125,000 at the end of October to the ACS team. 

    As you know, influencers, bloggers, traditional golf media, and ideally, organizations like My Golf Spy can reach a lot people.  In addition to raising money, we want to utilize our relationships in golf to create even more awareness.  I am not looking for a shoe endorsement or a platform to call out competitive features and benefits.  All I ask is that people share the press release, talk about the ACS partnership and maybe even our corporate mission to philanthropy. 

    The presale went live on July 27th and shoes will ship to customers by the end of September; just in time for October Breast Cancer Awareness Month.  As promised, attached please find the program press release.  I appreciate your willingness to share the story with the MGS team and would very much appreciate their support and help “take a swing at cancer”. 

    Kindest regards, 

    Bob

     

    SQAIRZ Launches Limited Edition Men’s & Women’s Golf
    Shoes To Benefit American Cancer Society

    WINDHAM, NH, July 14, 2021 -- SQAIRZ, the
    fastest growing golf shoe company,
    announced today their partnership with the
    American Cancer Society (ACS) to increase
    awareness about breast cancer and breast
    cancer month through the ‘Real Men Wear
    Pink’ campaign. SQAIRZ has launched two
    pink limited edition men’s and women’s golf
    shoes emblazoned with the breast cancer
    awareness ribbon and a portion of sales from
    these shoes will be donated directly to the
    ACS.
    These new limited edition SQAIRZ golf shoes
    will be available to preorder on Tuesday, July
    27, 2021 exclusively at https://sqairz.com/.
    Shoe orders have an anticipated ship date of
    September 30, 2021.
    Both the SQAIRZ FREEDOMTM ACS Golf
    Shoe for women and the SQAIRZ SPEEDTM
    ACS Golf Shoe for men are designed with the
    same technology that has made SQAIRZ a
    leader in the world of golf shoe performance.
    These shoes present a great opportunity for
    golfers to raise money for a worthy cause
    while improving their golf game.
    ‘Real Men Wear Pink’ is a campaign where
    community leaders around the country work
    to raise awareness and money to support the
    American Cancer Society’s mission to save
    more lives than ever from breast cancer. You
    can learn more about the ‘Real Men Wear
    Pink’ campaign by clicking here.

     

    When asked about his involvement with the
    ‘Real Men Wear Pink’ campaign and his
    company’s new ACS golf shoes, the CEO
    and Founder of SQAIRZ, Robert Winskowicz,
    replied, “This is a deeply personal issue to
    me. I lost my brother to cancer and I would do
    anything to prevent this from happening to
    another family. Whether it's breast cancer or
    otherwise, this is a disease that has affected
    so many. I’ve really come to understand
    through my own experiences and the many
    other families I’ve met that are going through
    the same thing, what a devastating effect this
    disease has on families. We are supporting
    the ACS because so many millions have
    been positively affected by their great work
    and the golf community can do so much to
    spread education, awareness, and help to
    contribute to a worthy cause.”

     

    About The American Cancer Society

    The American Cancer Society is a nationwide voluntary health organization dedicated to
    eliminating cancer. Established in 1913, the society is organized into six geographical regions of
    both medical and lay volunteers operating in more than 250 regional offices throughout the
    United States. They are a nonprofit organization, therefore they cannot endorse any commercial
    products. The American Cancer Society has invested more than $5 billion in cancer research
    since 1946 in an effort to find more effective cancer treatment treatments, uncover factors that
    cause cancer, and improve cancer patients’ quality of life.

    About SQAIRZ

    SQAIRZ is the fastest growing golf shoe brand and the first golf shoe designed to increase
    distance, balance, stability, and speed. SQAIRZ®’s patented toe design, spike positioning,
    specially placed comfort padding, Sta-Put laces, and other performance innovations have been
    proven to improve golfers’ positioning, biomechanics, comfort, balance, and stability. These
    innovations help golfers to consistently achieve greater accuracy as well as increased ground
    force connection and swing speed for greater distance. For more information, visit sqairz.com or
    connect with the company on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube.
     

    SqairzPNKBridgeShot1.jpg

  12. On 8/10/2021 at 4:52 PM, BIG STU said:

    I was thinking the 2010s were Golfsmith products but I may be wrong, Which IMHO the Golfsmith heads were good. 

    Yep - part of Golfsmith's first product line with MacGregor. Some of that lineup was very good (these irons, specifically, and a few of the putters), the rest was kinda meh, from what I've been able to find. 

    Stumbled across this during research:

    ULTIMATE REVIEW! - BEST FORGED CAVITY-BACK IRONS (mygolfspy.com)

    The VIP irons finished a strong third in MyGolfSpy's cavity back iron review for 2010, behind the Mizuno MP-53 and the Cobra Pro CB. It's an interesting read. 

     

    And here's a rundown of the 2010 lineup...

    MacGregor Golf Launches New Equipment Line | GolfCrunch.com

     

  13. 6 hours ago, russtopherb said:

     

    I'm also curious if this rollout schedule means we'll see word on new irons shortly... if so I'd expect them to keep the black/blue scheme we're seeing so far in the XL line, which I kind of dig.

    Word on new irons? Whatever do you  mean? 😎 😎

    All I can say is can you guys keep a secret?

  14. So the 2010 MacGregor VIP irons showed up last week - got a 4-PW set on eBay for 80 bucks. After a range session and one round, I'd have to see they're a steal. 

    They're forged, with a regular flex KBS Tour shaft, and they're soft, silly easy to heat and surprisingly long for what one might call a traditionally lofted iron. I'll get some pix up as soon as I can, but I can say it's a really solid, nice feeling forged cavity back worthy of the name, even though it doesn't have the diamonds on the ends of the score lines or the traditional MacGregor ferrule. 

    h/Working on the next History's Mysteries - trying to track down the back story of these babies, how they came to be and why there were no m ore. 

  15. 20 hours ago, BIG STU said:

    Yep the 1025s are great irons---- Yep newer shafts will wake those bad boys up--- And if you tinker around and get them to kick for you nothing new on the market today hits purer than those.

    Especially with a set of Hogan Apex shafts - my Mac-Hogans are back in the bag, baby!

    And because I have a sickness for which there is no known cure, I hit up eBay for a set of the 2010 VIPs. They should be here today. 

    Just what I need....

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