Wedgie Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Let's say there is a constant 20 MPH wind one day. Downwind for example purposes you are a club longer. Into the same wind are you a club shorter? Seems to me I always come up short going into the wind but am spot on downwind clubbing up or down accordingly. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Wedgie Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5 - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid - F9 One Length 3-L - ER 1.2 Top Flite Gamer Play Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Depends on the ball flight. I hit it high so 20 mph downwind would be a club and a half while into the wind would be two clubs. If I flight it down a bit I can generally get it to one club into a 20 mph wind. Also depends on what club you are hitting as well. Say I have 140 yards down wind I am hitting a 54* wedge. 140 into the wind would be a 9 iron if I am feeling confident but it more than likely would be an 8 iron. For reference it would be a stock PW with no wind. Not sure if this helps but more club into the wind is usually better than less club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* Ltd. HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60g TX Fairway: BRNR Mini Driver Copper 13.5* HZRDUS Yellow HC 76g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: Sim2 Rescue 22* Matrix Black Tie 85x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 Depends on the ball flight. I hit it high so 20 mph downwind would be a club and a half while into the wind would be two clubs. If I flight it down a bit I can generally get it to one club into a 20 mph wind. Also depends on what club you are hitting as well. Say I have 140 yards down wind I am hitting a 54* wedge. 140 into the wind would be a 9 iron if I am feeling confident but it more than likely would be an 8 iron. For reference it would be a stock PW with no wind. Not sure if this helps but more club into the wind is usually better than less club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That is a huge help. I always just assumed it would be the same into or with the wind. Thanks for the input. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Wedgie Driver - XXIO X Driver 9.5 - Launcher Turbo 2 hybrid - F9 One Length 3-L - ER 1.2 Top Flite Gamer Play Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Drag is proportional to the square of the velocity. What that means is that hitting into the wind, you lose more distance than you gain going downwind. In addition, the effect of backspin will make your ball "balloon" more going into the wind, and the lift will be decreased going downwind, giving a flatter trajectory. I don't believe its an exact science, but I often think of one club downwind, but two clubs into the wind. This can allow me to swing a little easier to decrease backspin and minimize the balloon effect. Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Hit easy into the wind and hard when it's behind you - Lee Trevino Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I normally don't give too much thought to the wind. Although this isn't a windy time of year in Texas many days play between a 5-15 variable wind of some degree. Many times in the spring for example the winds can be quite strong and persistent. 15-20+. I've played all my life in Texas and the wind of whatever speed is just something I think I've learned to subconsciously factor in. I just club up or down on feel and usually it's pretty close. Additionally, I tend to play a lower ball flight which helps. Not sure if that's something I learned early on due to wind. Perhaps. But in windy conditions a low ball flight is very helpful. One of my favorite shots is hitting a knock-down into the wind from about 150-125 or less. It's a thing of beauty when executed correctly. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I really hate quartering wind off my left, unless the flagstick is back right, then I really like it. But when we get wind here it's 20+ and miserably cold. I can hit a nice draw to hold it up, but I like not being forced into a shot by the wind. Quartering wind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I play in the wind a lot; most long holes play into or downwind the prevailing wind direction. Yes, into a 20mph wind takes more club, probably 2 clubs for me. However, many times when I play downwind, I don't get a lot of extra distance, maybe more roll. I'm sure that higher swing speeds gain more, but I usually play the same club or maybe half club less going downwind. Less ball speed means the ball gets knocked down; not the extra carry distance I expect. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 20mph is about 15 added yards going downwind and 25 off going into the wind for me. I try to flight it depending on the wind. If I am in between clubs, I will hit the longer one high or the shorter one lower. I like playing in about 5mph of wind because it makes pay more attention to my club choices. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I normally don't give too much thought to the wind. Although this isn't a windy time of year in Texas many days play between a 5-15 variable wind of some degree. Many times in the spring for example the winds can be quite strong and persistent. 15-20+. I've played all my life in Texas and the wind of whatever speed is just something I think I've learned to subconsciously factor in. I just club up or down on feel and usually it's pretty close. Additionally, I tend to play a lower ball flight which helps. Not sure if that's something I learned early on due to wind. Perhaps. But in windy conditions a low ball flight is very helpful. One of my favorite shots is hitting a knock-down into the wind from about 150-125 or less. It's a thing of beauty when executed correctly. All you Texas boys know how to play in the wind--- I had to really learn it when I moved to the coast of SC. Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Drag is proportional to the square of the velocity. What that means is that hitting into the wind, you lose more distance than you gain going downwind. In addition, the effect of backspin will make your ball "balloon" more going into the wind, and the lift will be decreased going downwind, giving a flatter trajectory. I don't believe its an exact science, but I often think of one club downwind, but two clubs into the wind. This can allow me to swing a little easier to decrease backspin and minimize the balloon effect. One of the reasons I still hit that stinger off the tee with a 2 or 3 iron hit her low get her turning over and let her rock and roll into the wind Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMNM Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 When it's really windy out on the course, you can usually find a gin game or a poker game in the clubhouse instead. While playing, you don't even have to look for the beverage cart. The waitress comes to. you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I play twilight mostly so windy most nights. 20 mph uo is 2 clubs, 1 down. I dont even put much thought on up or down as I do wirh the crosswinds. Where do I want the ball to start. DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 ...but I often think of one club downwind, but two clubs into the wind. This can allow me to swing a little easier to decrease backspin and minimize the balloon effect. This. Especially with short irons. A hard swing with a short iron is a spin machine. You're asking for a balloon ball. If you can learn how to make a half swing with your short irons to take about 20-30 yards off of them, you'll be formidable in wind. The Corey Pavin quail-high short iron is a real crowd-pleaser. What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyro25 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I too end up short going into the wind, so just mentally have to remind myself to go 2 clubs. If it's a 1.5 club situation then 2 clubs down but just 10% off it Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 It's very simple - the wind will effect you twice as much into as with - if you are one club help it's a two club hurt. Follow that rule until you start hitting it past hole high and you'll be fine. 20 mph would be at least that BTW. Good luck Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Going into the wind i usually pick the correct club but never aggressive enough with the swing. For some reason usually hit it badly and not even sure why. The wind in my face messes me up Mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Something Andrew rice talked about on instagram last year iirc. Into the wind if you think/know it's 10mph into you then add 15% to the distance and then pull that club for that distance. Using 20mph would then add 30%. Martin Hall talked about the helping wind not being anywhere near the help that the wind into you hurts. Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 One of the best shots I ever made was directly into a roaring and steady 20+ MPH wind. Par 3 #11 at Desert Canyon. It plays only at 152-yds and is handicapped at 17. The biggie here is that you hit from elevated tee boxes over a brush-filled ravine and that can be (is) intimidating as H***! Anyhow, I'd usually play a 7 or maybe even a 6 iron shot from here, but with that wind I decided to use 3W. On windless days I can get hold of that 3W and hammer it down to 220 or so, so this was a LOT of club. I teed it up as low as it could go but not be "fully" on the ground and just laced it with a smooth, controlled swing (for once). Ball flight was super straight and low. The ball landed 2-3 yards from the green and rolled right up to within 3' of the hole. That shot proved to me that I could conquer the wind when it was in my face and I have confidence that I can do it again...er mostly... In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMNM Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I never made an into-the-wind shot like that in my life, #9. I'd use my longest iron for every distance and try to guess how hard to hit it--worst technique in the history of dimple ball. The next time that it works for me will be the first, and I'm on the sideline now.. As I alluded to earlier in the thread, I'd usually find something else to do in those conditions. Especially after I was retired. But one time at Crystal Lake, the crew insisted on playing threw a monsoon. It was not only ludicrously windy but wet as well. I carded a bowling score and then started shopping for new friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I love fighting the ball down into the wind. Probably a strength of mine as far as I non-conventional shots go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hit easy into the wind and hard when it's behind you - Lee Trevino This was always a belief of mine as well. Swinging easy into the wind, creates less backspin & thus less ballooning. While swinging harder creates the opposite effect creating more height to ride the wind. Good stuff! WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM9 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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