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I hit all 3 of the MP 20 models yesterday.  They all felt and sounded wonderful.  I was surprised that the HMB sounded so good given its hollow design.  The MMC and HMB were giving me my regular distances even though they are 2 degrees weaker than my current irons.  The MP 20s gave me the numbers I would expect from a traditionally lofted blade. 

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Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW (Mizuno HMB's when I'm feeling sporty)

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Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

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30 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

Arent the MMC's a bit strong compared to "traditional" lofts?

MMC's and HMB's are the same loft which is 2-degrees stronger than the MP-20 blade from the 8-iron and up. They're pretty close to what I would call modern-traditional. Starting with the 4-iron, they go 22, 25, 28, 32, 36, 41, 46. MP-20 blade goes 24, 27, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46.

What I'd consider "traditional" lofts is going to have the PW somewhere closer to 49-degrees and we haven't really seen anyone release a PW with that loft in quite some time.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
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Tiger spec'd P7TW have 49° PW but your point stands as the standard spec of the set is 47°.

MMC's and HMB's are the same loft which is 2-degrees stronger than the MP-20 blade from the 8-iron and up. They're pretty close to what I would call modern-traditional. Starting with the 4-iron, they go 22, 25, 28, 32, 36, 41, 46. MP-20 blade goes 24, 27, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46.
What I'd consider "traditional" lofts is going to have the PW somewhere closer to 49-degrees and we haven't really seen anyone release a PW with that loft in quite some time.


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5 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Tiger spec'd P7TW have 49° PW but your point stands as the standard spec of the set is 47°.


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Yeah, I thought about about that, but it's pretty uncommon. Tiger's setup is definitely old-school and you won't find many sets with those lofts on tour - on any tour.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura 6m 33"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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19 hours ago, Tsecor said:

Arent the MMC's a bit strong compared to "traditional" lofts?

Yes, but they are one to two degrees weak compared to most current GI and SGI sets on the market.  For instance, my Titleist 718 AP1s have a 30 degree 7 iron.  The new Titleist T300s have a 29 degree 7 iron, which is 2 clubs stronger than my Ping Eye 2s.

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood and 7/8 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW (Mizuno HMB's when I'm feeling sporty)

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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2 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said:

Yes, but they are one to two degrees weak compared to most current GI and SGI sets on the market.  For instance, my Titleist 718 AP1s have a 30 degree 7 iron.  The new Titleist T300s have a 29 degree 7 iron, which is 2 clubs stronger than my Ping Eye 2s.

that's understandable given the difference in class of irons.

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I love the looks of these and am wondering how forgiving the hot metals are.  Nobody makes a better looking iron then Mizuno.  I have seen reviews where guys are using a combo set and they have not said anything negative about looking down at the top line. 

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

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I just got a call today from the store, that my MP-20 SELs will be shipping out to the store this Thursday and should be here early next week!!!!!!   Now I can't wait!!!    Pure Buttery heaven can't come soon enough for me!

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:taylormade-small: SIM Driver 9* | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g

:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub-Zero 3 Wood | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g

:mizuno-small: MP-20s SEL | Project X LZ 6.0

:callaway-small: Jaws MD5 - 50 Degrees | Dynamic Gold S200

 :cleveland-small: RTX 4  56.10 | 60.9 | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

:cameron-small:    Special Select 2020 - Newport 2

:bridgestone-small: Tour Bx 2020

 

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Update after my second round with the SELs yesterday. I was playing a completely new course to me and we went from the Championship Tees with 15 mph winds (Texas). Doing so gave me the opportunity to use my longer irons frequently in the round, including longer par 3s and some longer par 4s as well. In regards to the MB, I

got to play my MB 5 iron, 5 times today and have to say I'm really impressed with the results (please note this is the lowest MB iron in the SEL set). From the 5 shots, 4 were in the green (closest was 6 feet) and 1 was around 10 yards short of the green due to my own error. I would take that EVERY single day for sure!!! Kinda still wish us lefties had the option to have 3-4 in MB as well, but is a move forward with Mizuno and no biggie. Next year I hope the JPX Tour version gets released in left-handed and I will be buying them as well if that's the case (I'm that in awe with these Mizuno irons)

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:taylormade-small: SIM Driver 9* | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g

:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub-Zero 3 Wood | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g

:mizuno-small: MP-20s SEL | Project X LZ 6.0

:callaway-small: Jaws MD5 - 50 Degrees | Dynamic Gold S200

 :cleveland-small: RTX 4  56.10 | 60.9 | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

:cameron-small:    Special Select 2020 - Newport 2

:bridgestone-small: Tour Bx 2020

 

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Love the mp20’s, glad your digging them

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:cobra-small: F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R

:Hogan: Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (best clubs ever)

:benhogan-small: Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4

 :EVNROLL: ER3 34”

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I could go either way. Love my MP-18s. Mizuno just makes beautiful blades. I personally like the traditional MP line but if I did go for the modern, tough look, the JPX 919s were sweet.

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:taylormade-small: M1 2017 10.5° (dialed to 9.5°) (X 75g Project X HZRDUS Black 6.5, Golf Pride CP2, 44.75")
:taylormade-small: M2 2017 3W 15° (X 75g Project X HZRDUS Black 6.5, Golf Pride CP2) | M1 2017 5W 19° (S 70g Kuro Kage Silver TiNi)
:mizuno-small: MP-18 MMC FliHi 4, SC 5-7, MB 8-PW (S 110g KBS Tour C-Taper Lite, Lamkin UTX Wrap Blue, 1° flat, -1/4")
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