sirchunksalot Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I’m going to have to consult my Gkids on how to do this stuff. I think I may have to fly the 17 year old down here for helpNice job Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI think that might be the way to go. I couldn't video edit my way out of a wet paper bag.Sent from my SM-N975U using MyGolfSpy mobile app GregB135, ballplayer002003, tony@CIC and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I think that might be the way to go. I couldn't video edit my way out of a wet paper bag.Sent from my SM-N975U using MyGolfSpy mobile appWe visited the family’s in September and Gkids (17, 15, 14 & 13) were doing computer stuff I never heard of. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy sirchunksalot and tony@CIC 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rickp said: I’m going to have to consult my Gkids on how to do this stuff. I think I may have to fly the 17 year old down here for help Nice job Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Trust me, I am NOT a tech guy at all. I was watching the Bears game today and just started playing with my phone. If you have the iMovie it is pretty easy. tony@CIC, Rickp and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Trust me, I am NOT a tech guy at all. I was watching the Bears game today and just started playing with my phone. If you have the iMovie it is pretty easy. I checked and have iMovie. The only reason we have iPhones is our Gkids also have them and we can FaceTime each other (like today).SWMO and I have some final testing next week, G410’s are .......Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy tony@CIC, gregh729 and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 22 hours ago, revkev said: And there’s a price drop on the 410 line - that surprised me. Refresh my memory, what were you playing, Rick? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I believe it's just the driver on the price drop. At least that's the info I got on Wed. sirchunksalot and tony@CIC 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 19 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said: SNEAK PEAK at my review!!!! This is awesome.... GREAT JOB!! Seriously, the quality of the graphics and artistry is top notch. Maybe someone else has done this format before and I've not seen it, but this will certainly set a new standard for Official Reviews. GregB135, ballplayer002003, Wedgie and 2 others 5 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: I believe it's just the driver on the price drop. At least that's the info I got on Wed. Heading to a PING Demo this morning and will check. I'm testing the Crossovers, Hybrids, and 5w... so a price break on any would, presuming one fills the gap, be welcomed. sirchunksalot, Rickp and gregh729 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Sure enough, PING is reported to be releasing new woods and irons... at least according to the club pros at Desert Hills. Rickp, GregB135 and sirchunksalot 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Sure enough, PING is reported to be releasing new woods and irons... at least according to the club pros at Desert Hills. Wait...what? Already? sirchunksalot, tony@CIC and Rickp 3 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said: Wait...what? Already? My thoughts exactly. If one of our fellow MGS's don't have some insider info on this, I'll see what more I can find out from the PING staff folks in a couple weeks. JohnSmalls, Rickp, GregB135 and 2 others 5 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 My thoughts exactly. If one of our fellow MGS's don't have some insider info on this, I'll see what more I can find out from the PING staff folks in a couple weeks.Wow. Woods?! Hmm. Could it be just a Max replacement? Irons, maybe iBlade replacements? Those would be my guess.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 No new driver. 410 plus and lst will remain drivers through most if not all of 2020. Really nothing new on the horizon from Ping. Might hear about some new sgi irons around the pga show, but nothing else announced til late spring at the absolute earliest JohnSmalls and Rickp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 No new driver. 410 plus and lst will remain drivers through most if not all of 2020. Really nothing new on the horizon from Ping. Might hear about some new sgi irons around the pga show, but nothing else announced til late spring at the absolute earliest That makes sense.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I believe it's just the driver on the price drop. At least that's the info I got on Wed. Hybrids priced dropped. Not sure about the irons Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The only new club coming that they have told dealers about is the G710 irons for s launch in January. Any mention of a driver is just someone guessing. A new driver less than a year after the last one would be completely unprecedented for them. This Second part of course is just my thought. Not coming from PING directly. JohnSmalls and Rickp 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tony@CIC said: Hybrids priced dropped. Not sure about the irons Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Definitely not the irons. I'd have to look again in the hybrids I didn't focus on those. JohnSmalls and tony@CIC 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The only new club coming that they have told dealers about is the G710 irons for s launch in January. Any mention of a driver is just someone guessing. A new driver less than a year after the last one would be completely unprecedented for them. This Second part of course is just my thought. Not coming from PING directly. Ping, to my memory is one of the more stable OEM’s, sticking to a new entry cycle schedule.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy gregh729, JohnSmalls and bens197 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, Rickp said: Ping, to my memory is one of the more stable OEM’s, sticking to a new entry cycle schedule. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yep. PING lately has had some releases at 18 months from the previous iteration. Titleist, Mizuno and Srixon are all pretty steady at 24 months for each model. gregh729, JohnSmalls, ballplayer002003 and 2 others 5 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Yep. PING lately has had some releases at 18 months from the previous iteration. Titleist, Mizuno and Srixon are all pretty steady at 24 months for each model. that's why I am a fan of those brands! bens197 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Yep. PING lately has had some releases at 18 months from the previous iteration. Titleist, Mizuno and Srixon are all pretty steady at 24 months for each model. With the exception of the driver vs driver products, Wilson sticks to a pretty steady two year cycle as well bens197 1 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Definitely not the irons. I'd have to look again in the hybrids I didn't focus on those. Definitely on the hybrids - the 26* my wife ordered for me yesterday was listed at 219.99 vs the old price of 249.99 Golfspy_CG2 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Yep. PING lately has had some releases at 18 months from the previous iteration. Titleist, Mizuno and Srixon are all pretty steady at 24 months for each model. Interesting that the major OEM's all tend to all follow a similar cycle. Undoubtedly much of this is based on ROI business models for these products -- but when they have what they believe is a "game changer", it must be hard to hold back. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregB135 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Wait...what? Already?Ping is typically a 2 year release cycle. The next iron up should be the i410? Or whatever is intended to replace the i500 released for 2018.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: 311XF Gen5, Tensei CK Pro Orange, S flex Fariway: 311XF Gen6 3-Wood, Tensei Blue 55g R flex Hybrid: 211, 3H Project X Evenflow H, 80g, 5.5 TSR2 4H, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester) Irons: T200 2023, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester), 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 Zipcore 52*, 56* Project X Catalyst Spinner Graphite Shaft Putter: ER2 Murdered Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregB135 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Had the G410s out for another range session this morning. Took them to the member clinic and today’s lesson could not have been more perfect for the test....”Working the Ball”Went through setup and awing for straight, then fade, then draw. I struggle with the intentional fade as it is but here’s what I saw with the G410s.Straight shots went mostly straight. My fade shots looked more like a push, but I didn’t really get many solid strikes on the fares to measure by. My draw shots were okay, but again, I wasn’t striking solid on every swing. The setup adjustment with the club face was throwing me off a bit.My assessment based on this morning and on course performance so far is that the G410 irons maintain a fair bit of workability for a GI design. Whether intentional or by mistake if your face to path relationship result should be a draw or fade that is what you’ll get. Same for a hook/slice swing. The small curve shots do look like they are trying to resist but they still draw or fade.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy russtopherb, JohnSmalls and fixyurdivot 3 Quote Driver: 311XF Gen5, Tensei CK Pro Orange, S flex Fariway: 311XF Gen6 3-Wood, Tensei Blue 55g R flex Hybrid: 211, 3H Project X Evenflow H, 80g, 5.5 TSR2 4H, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester) Irons: T200 2023, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester), 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 Zipcore 52*, 56* Project X Catalyst Spinner Graphite Shaft Putter: ER2 Murdered Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfertrb Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, GregB135 said: Had the G410s out for another range session this morning. Took them to the member clinic and today’s lesson could not have been more perfect for the test....”Working the Ball” Went through setup and awing for straight, then fade, then draw. I struggle with the intentional fade as it is but here’s what I saw with the G410s. Straight shots went mostly straight. My fade shots looked more like a push, but I didn’t really get many solid strikes on the fares to measure by. My draw shots were okay, but again, I wasn’t striking solid on every swing. The setup adjustment with the club face was throwing me off a bit. My assessment based on this morning and on course performance so far is that the G410 irons maintain a fair bit of workability for a GI design. Whether intentional or by mistake if your face to path relationship result should be a draw or fade that is what you’ll get. Same for a hook/slice swing. The small curve shots do look like they are trying to resist but they still draw or fade. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I've had a question related to this to be posed to the testers: how are these at manipulating the ball? High/low, draws/fades, etc. I know these are designed to go straight, high and far but golf , as we all know, is seldom as simple as that. My i500's can be worked but a draw is easier than a fade for me. I can fade it but if I need a big fade, it requires a pretty exaggerated setup/move on my part. What are the testers finding? Also, for those who miss on the toe, what kind of yardage drop are you seeing? In reference to Ping's equipment cycle, we should see replacements for the i210/i500 this year, right? Great job everyone - I have enjoyed following along. I have had a busy fall, so I haven't posted much but I have been lurking @ballplayer002003 - Your video work is impressive! JohnSmalls, sirchunksalot, GregB135 and 2 others 5 Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, golfertrb said: I've had a question related to this to be posed to the testers: how are these at manipulating the ball? High/low, draws/fades, etc. I know these are designed to go straight, high and far but golf , as we all know, is seldom as simple as that. My i500's can be worked but a draw is easier than a fade for me. I can fade it but if I need a big fade, it requires a pretty exaggerated setup/move on my part. What are the testers finding? Also, for those who miss on the toe, what kind of yardage drop are you seeing? In reference to Ping's equipment cycle, we should see replacements for the i210/i500 this year, right? Great job everyone - I have enjoyed following along. I have had a busy fall, so I haven't posted much but I have been lurking @ballplayer002003 - Your video work is impressive! First off, thank you, but anyone with an iPhone can do it. I am having a hard time flighting the ball down. I have to REALLY work hard at doing this and when I do pull it off successfully, the ball flight tends to be of what I would expect a MID ball flight to be. As far as hitting draws and fades, again, has to be pretty aggressive with the club to get it to move a bit. I am not a huge mover of the ball but can do it when needed, and I was having trouble doing it with these. Obviously, my Mizuno's are much easier to do this with. Lastly, and one of the most impressive things for me, was toe/heel strikes. I don't lose much distance at all!!!!! Maybe...maybe 10 yards tops. I will post video reviews tomorrow and hope it answers some of your questions in better detail. golfertrb, sirchunksalot, fixyurdivot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregB135 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 hours ago, golfertrb said: I've had a question related to this to be posed to the testers: how are these at manipulating the ball? High/low, draws/fades, etc. I know these are designed to go straight, high and far but golf , as we all know, is seldom as simple as that. My i500's can be worked but a draw is easier than a fade for me. I can fade it but if I need a big fade, it requires a pretty exaggerated setup/move on my part. What are the testers finding? Also, for those who miss on the toe, what kind of yardage drop are you seeing? In reference to Ping's equipment cycle, we should see replacements for the i210/i500 this year, right? Great job everyone - I have enjoyed following along. I have had a busy fall, so I haven't posted much but I have been lurking @ballplayer002003 - Your video work is impressive! Thanks trb! As a + handicap, you are probably already a better or more capable 'worker' of the ball than most of the test group. Based on what I saw at the clinic lesson and what I've seen on the course, the ball will curve the way the face to swing path relationship says it should. I did notice that adjusting the club face at setup for the draw/fade with this club head design made for a more awkward look standing over the shot. If you tend to work the ball more with setup that would be a factor than if you work the ball more with hand action and timing of the release. I would also think comparing these to the i500 you would see A LOT more offset in the long irons and the short irons might initially look a little bulky. That has been my experience moving to these from the Hogan PTx. Compared to the Mizunos, the striking area was essentially the same, the G410s just have noticeably more club outside the grooves. The top line isn't so much thicker as to be distracting and it does cover up the cavity back and wider sole at address. golfertrb 1 Quote Driver: 311XF Gen5, Tensei CK Pro Orange, S flex Fariway: 311XF Gen6 3-Wood, Tensei Blue 55g R flex Hybrid: 211, 3H Project X Evenflow H, 80g, 5.5 TSR2 4H, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester) Irons: T200 2023, Tensei Blue R (Forum Tester), 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 Zipcore 52*, 56* Project X Catalyst Spinner Graphite Shaft Putter: ER2 Murdered Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfertrb Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said: First off, thank you, but anyone with an iPhone can do it. I am having a hard time flighting the ball down. I have to REALLY work hard at doing this and when I do pull it off successfully, the ball flight tends to be of what I would expect a MID ball flight to be. As far as hitting draws and fades, again, has to be pretty aggressive with the club to get it to move a bit. I am not a huge mover of the ball but can do it when needed, and I was having trouble doing it with these. Obviously, my Mizuno's are much easier to do this with. Lastly, and one of the most impressive things for me, was toe/heel strikes. I don't lose much distance at all!!!!! Maybe...maybe 10 yards tops. I will post video reviews tomorrow and hope it answers some of your questions in better detail. Well, I've had a lot of iterations of iPhone and I've never produced anything close so perhaps you are being a bit modest Great answer to all my questions and I look forward to seeing your video reviews. Couple follow-up questions: what is your standard shot? (Shape/flight) Is there a type of shot you tend to need to be able to hit that deviates from your typical shot? If so, what is it and are you finding it difficult? (In other words, if your standard shot is a high draw, do you find yourself needing to flight the ball down due to course conditions?) That is quite impressive about the toe strike - most people I play with tend to miss on the toe due to being over-the-top from one degree or another. I really like the looks of these and I have several players I could recommend them too. Being able to flight the ball down is an absolute must here in Oklahoma so that is certainly something to consider. Thanks! ballplayer002003 1 Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfertrb Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 hours ago, GregB135 said: Thanks trb! As a + handicap, you are probably already a better or more capable 'worker' of the ball than most of the test group. Based on what I saw at the clinic lesson and what I've seen on the course, the ball will curve the way the face to swing path relationship says it should. I did notice that adjusting the club face at setup for the draw/fade with this club head design made for a more awkward look standing over the shot. If you tend to work the ball more with setup that would be a factor than if you work the ball more with hand action and timing of the release. I would also think comparing these to the i500 you would see A LOT more offset in the long irons and the short irons might initially look a little bulky. That has been my experience moving to these from the Hogan PTx. Compared to the Mizunos, the striking area was essentially the same, the G410s just have noticeably more club outside the grooves. The top line isn't so much thicker as to be distracting and it does cover up the cavity back and wider sole at address. Thanks for a thorough response! You are right - the ball will move, with varying degrees of success, based on the swing path/face angle/ball position relationship. I really appreciate your take about the awkwardness of the visual and the challenges associated - that's exactly the stuff a tester can provide! GregB135 1 Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I've had a question related to this to be posed to the testers: how are these at manipulating the ball? High/low, draws/fades, etc. I know these are designed to go straight, high and far but golf , as we all know, is seldom as simple as that. My i500's can be worked but a draw is easier than a fade for me. I can fade it but if I need a big fade, it requires a pretty exaggerated setup/move on my part. What are the testers finding? Also, for those who miss on the toe, what kind of yardage drop are you seeing? In reference to Ping's equipment cycle, we should see replacements for the i210/i500 this year, right? Great job everyone - I have enjoyed following along. I have had a busy fall, so I haven't posted much but I have been lurking [mention=84649]ballplayer002003[/mention] - Your video work is impressive!To your question on ball movement. First in the Testing I had to overcome the 4’ difference in Lie Angle which provided a challenge in just hitting the ball. It drive me nuts that a big mistake was made but the opposite is true. Moving Lie Angle was correct.Overcoming that problem ball fight is getting better all the time with decent ball strikes in club face is improving.I was never a big mover of the ball little draw occasionally and slight fade predominant flight. The G410 for me are dead a$$ straight, 5 thru 7 slight fade and 8 thru PW baby draw.Hitting low ball stingers easy to do, big fades-draws on demand not easy for me to do with these clubs. They like to go straight. I didn’t realize we had Steven Spielberg as a Tester That was freaking awesome.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy golfertrb, sirchunksalot and ballplayer002003 2 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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