mpatrickriley Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Last night, I pulled the trigger on a couple of Recoil shafts. I'm planning to put them in the 5 and 6 iron of my 699 Pros, leaving the Nippons in the 7-PW. Anyone else have a graphite/steel split in your irons? What's your experience been with a setup like that? MattF and edingc 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 We already play spit sets. Woods and hybrids have graphite almost exclusively. We then play driving irons that can be either graphite or steel. Putters are starting to go graphite. With irons we often talk about splitting GI and players; so why not have partial graphite sets? The dynamics of a graphite shaft might help with the longer clubs. The question I would ask is why not graphite in all the irons? What do you want to accomplish? If it is lighter weight, there are lightweight steel shafts. Many people switch for comfort but that would push you to the entire set. Aside from a cost factor I would say graphite shaft are equivalent to steel shafts. I don’t see an issue and if you get the improvements you are looking for I say go for it. mpatrickriley, PMookie, NM01 and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Only time I had a split graphite iron setup has been with my current miura irons and the TM and Vokey wedges. other than my 50* I don’t take full swings with my other wedges. The move from graphite to steel at that point has no effects As @cnosil mentioned most people have some type of split set and in the end IMO it comes down to where ones comfort level is in a change mpatrickriley and edingc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, cnosil said: The question I would ask is why not graphite in all the irons? pakman92, edingc and PMookie 3 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Then starting at the top end would be a good approach. Assuming you want full graphite at some point? mpatrickriley and edingc 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, cnosil said: Then starting at the top end would be a good approach. Assuming you want full graphite at some point? Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that. edingc 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that.Will be interesting to see if it impacts performance. Are the shafts lighter than your steel? edingc 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I don't see any reason not to try it. True Temper came out with their Binary shafts about a year ago based on the same principle. I think having access to a launch monitor to see where you sit is important to make sure gapping is where you want it. Steel shafts will continue to have a purpose in shorter irons for the sake of weight and accuracy (and cost) until there are economical graphite replacements. edingc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, cnosil said: Will be interesting to see if it impacts performance. Are the shafts lighter than your steel? According to the specs, yes. The Recoil 680 SC: And the Modus³ Tour 105: cnosil and edingc 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I agree with everyone here - I don't see why this won't work. It's basically the same concept as an AMT set, right? Just your weight jump between graphite and steel is a bit of a larger gap. I know one thing for sure - I highly doubt I'll ever go back to steel. Those Recoils are a good price, too. mpatrickriley 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Certainly not opposed to it, but neither is it particularly my goal. For me, this is chiefly about gapping. Like many golfers, I find that the gaps between clubs get tighter as I move up in my bag. If I can buy a fraction more speed (and perhaps a touch higher launch) on my long irons, while keeping my 7-PW where they are, I'd be fine with that. This is why a split setup of clubs and possibly shafts can help. Many amateurs lack the swing speed to get the right launch conditions to give a good enough separation between clubs so putting a hybrid or more forgiving style head in place of the club that’s part of the set can help. Same with going from hybrid to a wood. The smaller head with lower loft in a hybrid may hurt someone compared to a higher lofted wood. The lighter shaft option works. When I used a driving iron I went graphite and lighter than my steel shafts and it worked fine mpatrickriley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 True Temper is offering a split set: https://www.golfworks.com/true-temper-binary-355-iron-shafts/p/tt0153/ Quote 14 of the following: Taylormade Qi10 Max Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Titleist TSR1 hybrid 26 degrees Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Ping G430 irons 6-50 degree Sub 70 286 wedges 52 and 56 degrees Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER1v Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 This makes total sense I was thinking if a similar thing in my 5 iron since it's lofted much more like a 4 iron so launch can be an issue as well. Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFanBoi Scotty Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Why not? Cobra have been doing this for years with their OL for the different flight characteristics. Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 Recoils arrive on Monday. I'll be aiming to get on the SkyTrak and get baseline numbers for my hybrid, and my 5, 6, and 7 irons. My expectation is to see some gapping issues there. Especially with the 5 and 6 irons, I want to focus on carry, spin, launch angle, peak height, and descent angle. Then I'll re-run those numbers after the re-shafting and update the thread. Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 OK, we've got the shafts in hand, and now we've got a baseline: And look! We've got some clear problems. I'm not exactly sure what went wrong on the 7 iron. I think it was a combination of a little fatigue and just some bad shots. My 7 iron normally goes longer than my 8 iron, but depending on the outcome of this little experiment, I'm open to making adjustments there as well. But the bunching of the 5 and 6 iron definitely came through in the swings here. So I'm going to reshaft the 5 and 6 in the Recoils (hopefully tonight). Then I'll re-run the gapping, and my hope is to see the gaps get a lot more even. Shankopotomous, cnosil, edingc and 1 other 4 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: OK, we've got the shafts in hand, and now we've got a baseline: And look! We've got some clear problems. I'm not exactly sure what went wrong on the 7 iron. I think it was a combination of a little fatigue and just some bad shots. My 7 iron normally goes longer than my 8 iron, but depending on the outcome of this little experiment, I'm open to making adjustments there as well. But the bunching of the 5 and 6 iron definitely came through in the swings here. So I'm going to reshaft the 5 and 6 in the Recoils (hopefully tonight). Then I'll re-run the gapping, and my hope is to see the gaps get a lot more even. Any thoughts about utilizing shaft length to tweak the gapping a little bit? Like maybe going 3/4" between 5-6? Maybe squeeze out 1-2 MPH more ball speed... mpatrickriley 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I honestly haven't seen anyone playing steel and graphite within a set make-up, but why not? If you can get the yardage gaps corrected, it certainly makes sense and worth a try. I would think matching up swing weights might prove a little challenging? I'm interested to see how the change to the MMT 80's (4-AW) and leaving my PING Glide 2.0 with the stock steel shaft is going to work out. Two players in Yuma tried the graphite iron shaft route and both said they experienced a wider spread in yardages - one has gone back to steel as a result. I know one was SF and I think the other was Recoil (not sure specific models). Both were single digit players over 60. Me, my shoulders, elbows, and hands are hopeful they'll be pure magic. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: honestly haven't seen anyone playing steel and graphite within a set make-up, but why not? Depends on how you want to look at it. Very very few people play steel in their woods and hybrids before moving into steel in their irons and wedges. So in that aspect most golfers play a mixed material setup I have a bag that is graphite from driver thru pw and steel in my 3 specialty wedges. In a past golf life there were others I know that also had similar setups Brandt Snedeker has steelfibers in his irons and his 48* and s400s in his other wedges cnosil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Depends on how you want to look at it. Very very few people play steel in their woods and hybrids before moving into steel in their irons and wedges. So in that aspect most golfers play a mixed material setup I have a bag that is graphite from driver thru pw and steel in my 3 specialty wedges. In a past golf life there were others I know that also had similar setups Brandt Snedeker has steelfibers in his irons and his 48* and s400s in his other wedges Yea, I should have qualified mixed shafts within irons. The change to composite in woods and hybrids is so common now it's the normal. Not sure how well this addresses yardage gapping but I certainly could envision doing it for a preferred ball flight. @GolfSpy MPR Michael, do you have a Skytrak at home now? Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 15 hours ago, edingc said: Any thoughts about utilizing shaft length to tweak the gapping a little bit? Like maybe going 3/4" between 5-6? Maybe squeeze out 1-2 MPH more ball speed... Measuring clubs is voodoo to begin with. There's a half decent chance this happens just by accident In all seriousness, this isn't a bad idea. I'm not sure how much difference a 1/4" will make, but I can't imagine that it would hurt anything. 14 hours ago, fixyurdivot said: @GolfSpy MPR Michael, do you have a Skytrak at home now? Yep, got the SkyTrak about two years ago. Love being able to have feedback on practice (and clubfitting), especially during the six months of winter each year. fixyurdivot and edingc 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Measuring clubs is voodoo to begin with. There's a half decent chance this happens just by accident In all seriousness, this isn't a bad idea. I'm not sure how much difference a 1/4" will make, but I can't imagine that it would hurt anything. Yep, got the SkyTrak about two years ago. Love being able to have feedback on practice (and clubfitting), especially during the six months of winter each year. PING regularly adds an additional 1/8" in length to their GI sets for 4 and 5 irons... I would recommend trying 1/4", the 1/8" wasn't enough to help me. I have the same issue as you with overlap between 7/8 irons as well as 5/6. I bit the bullet and removed the 5 iron from the bag as it was only useful off the tee. Want to get the lofts checked just to rule it out. Otherwise in the market for a hybrid that carries 190-200, to go between my 6 iron and 4 iron with a 6 iron length shaft in the train wreck that is the top half of my bag. mpatrickriley, Sevefan and edingc 3 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevefan Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I've gone to a combo set of shafts with the long irons R flex and the rest S flex. Same shaft, just slightly lighter in the long irons. Not sure I see or feel much difference. mpatrickriley 1 Quote Epic Flash Driver & 3W Epic Flash 2H ZX 3U Cobra F7 4-5H MP-32 3-PW OR Z745 5-PW AW 51 2.0 Glide Stealth 55 & 60 B60 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 Some very preliminary results on this experiment. Here was my bag gapping result from before replacing the shafts in my 5 and 6 irons: And here is the result from today: While this is far from perfect, there are now at least some meaningful gaps between my 5, 6, and 7 irons. This is a small sample size; the "before" represents three shots with each club and today's was five shots with each club. While Kirke and I have gotten to the course a few times, it's been a mushy mess, so I'm not really keeping stats. (It's snowing again today.) But I did use my Recoil-shafted 5 iron on a downhill par 3 tee shot this week: Again, it's a downhill hole, but this is all carry (the ball was embedded). On the whole, the numbers here are promising. I need to dig in a bit deeper to launch angle and spin rates, but in terms of the basic goal (more reasonable gapping before switching to hybrids), the move to graphite in the long irons looks like one that I'm going to stick with this season. DannyN and cnosil 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevefan Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 19 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Some very preliminary results on this experiment. Here was my bag gapping result from before replacing the shafts in my 5 and 6 irons: And here is the result from today: While this is far from perfect, there are now at least some meaningful gaps between my 5, 6, and 7 irons. This is a small sample size; the "before" represents three shots with each club and today's was five shots with each club. While Kirke and I have gotten to the course a few times, it's been a mushy mess, so I'm not really keeping stats. (It's snowing again today.) But I did use my Recoil-shafted 5 iron on a downhill par 3 tee shot this week: Again, it's a downhill hole, but this is all carry (the ball was embedded). On the whole, the numbers here are promising. I need to dig in a bit deeper to launch angle and spin rates, but in terms of the basic goal (more reasonable gapping before switching to hybrids), the move to graphite in the long irons looks like one that I'm going to stick with this season. The main difference I see here is that your 7i distance increased by 14 yards. Was that just based on quality of strikes in your small sample size? Quote Epic Flash Driver & 3W Epic Flash 2H ZX 3U Cobra F7 4-5H MP-32 3-PW OR Z745 5-PW AW 51 2.0 Glide Stealth 55 & 60 B60 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenkdoggy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 During the pandemic I've had a lot time to practice golf and try my hand at club making. I started with a 37" Wishon Sterling single length steel iron set and have tweaked it over time. My current setup has 38.50" graphite shafted 4 & 5 hybrids, 38.00" graphite 6 & 7 irons, 37.50" steel 8/9/PW and 36.00" steel GW/SW/LW. All clubheads from 4 - PW are 274 grams. I found that I needed to use graphite shafts from 4 - 7 to get proper distance as my swing speed was too slow above 7/8 iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdooley Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I love this idea. I currently swing One Iron Golf Pro Line single length irons and have thought about doing something similar. Even went as far as reaching out to Sub 70 to see what they could do. Curious how it's going for you? I'm guessing gapping is better. How is ball striking? On 4/27/2022 at 3:53 PM, Jenkdoggy said: During the pandemic I've had a lot time to practice golf and try my hand at club making. I started with a 37" Wishon Sterling single length steel iron set and have tweaked it over time. My current setup has 38.50" graphite shafted 4 & 5 hybrids, 38.00" graphite 6 & 7 irons, 37.50" steel 8/9/PW and 36.00" steel GW/SW/LW. All clubheads from 4 - PW are 274 grams. I found that I needed to use graphite shafts from 4 - 7 to get proper distance as my swing speed was too slow above 7/8 iron. Quote Lefty // 15-ish Handicap // MNML Golf Bag // Sub 70 Golf 699 V1 4-AW // Former One Length Iron Player // Hand-me-down Cobra Driver // Tommy Armour No. 3 Putter // Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 No, but I have the Recoil ES780 Smack-wrap F3 and like them. Been using graphite for over 25 years due to arm issues, but there are times I'd like a heavier feel. Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckZ Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Have heard of mixing the heads in iron sets. Maybe a lighter or Regular vs stiff in the wedges. My D,F,H all have Stiff graphite shafts and my irons have R300 shafts. Yes, I was fitted for my clubs, as always. Quote Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S Hybrid - TSR1 19.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Irons - T350 (2023) - 5-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S, 58.08M ** GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips (all woods/irons/wedges) Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" ** Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1 (2023) Golf Bags - TITLEIST - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white) Golf Glove - FootJoy (StaSof), Shoes, Apparel and Outerwear Rangefinder - Bushnell Pro XE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Go for it. I love Recoils too. I have reg. flex recoils in my irons and 3 and 5 hybrids. But I have to go to senior flex in 3 wood and driver. and all my mizuno wedges have TT steel wedge shafts. Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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