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I’m excited too, although I could care less about the data stuff. I just want it to play better than what I’m playing now. I’m still in ProV1 and Chrome Tour mode, ProV1 is my favorite. OnCore was great for a minute, but now not so much.

I could play golf every day and learn something new each time.

Driver: Callaway_logoChev.jpg.210738784f200cb0d13f9386f1575265.jpgParadym TD 9* or EPIC Max LS 10.5* or  Ping.png.bd9875c415de0caaf18165e81353fcba.png425LST 9* 

Woods: Callaway_logoChev.jpg.210738784f200cb0d13f9386f1575265.jpg Mini or TM.png.882c22efb861c87ad5aa6b2f88e9743f.png Mini BRNR

Hybrids: PXG.jpg.f43fb635ef9ee412fa814c0d924d1ee5.jpg3H, 4H, 5H 

Irons: NL.png.a16c1db32eb8495938c8958152d9be4c.png902PD 

Wedges: titleist.jpeg.79b06f097c7bfa5eecb9179cb2b8800a.jpegVokey SM10 48, 52, 56* 

Putter: SM.jpg.6ec6e268aa1364f355b3f10b9901b64e.jpgBlack MiniGiant 

Ball: titleist.jpeg.79b06f097c7bfa5eecb9179cb2b8800a.jpegPro V1X or Callaway_logoChev.jpg.210738784f200cb0d13f9386f1575265.jpgChrome TourX

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22 minutes ago, Shrek74 said:

Am I the only one excited for the 2025 ball test? I realize it's probably 6 months away (or more), but I'm already excited to get all those details and stats and stuff from the test. It's one of my favorite things HQ does, even though they do a ton of other very important and informative things.

I play in Excel for days/weeks after the ball test releases it's stats. But then again, many would call me a bit strange and a nerd (I have worked in IT for 25+ years).

I'm just excited about it. 🙂

Am in the same boat with ya. The data is what I love about golf, digging into different things and making determined decisions based on real, measured numbers is always something that has intrigued my engineering mind.

I'm just curious to see what kind of data they actually release; It's been seeming that lately they don't really provide the data dumps they used too. I forget what it was for, but the last ball test dat they provided parsed it all down to a few key metric numbers and put it in a simple categorical table to sort & filter in and that was it. It was a little disappointing... 

Driver:   2024 Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke MAX 9deg(wgt'd draw w/ hosel set +1&draw)
Hybrids:  2022 TSR2 - 3Hybrid(19Deg)
Irons:    2023 T790 5-9i,Pw,Aw - Dynamic Gold 115g Stiff
Wedges:   2024 Vokey SM10 55Deg(56Deg loft adj. -1) - same
Putter:   2004 Scotty Cameron Futura - 38.25", 4Deg Lie
Ball:     2020 Vice Pro, Callaway SuperHot/SuperSoft Matte

 

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I know titleist has already started their white box testing with the pros, as per their email, so it's only a matter of time before they are in the hands of HQ and amateur testers!

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Driver  -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom

Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Shrek74 said:

Am I the only one excited for the 2025 ball test? I realize it's probably 6 months away (or more), but I'm already excited to get all those details and stats and stuff from the test. It's one of my favorite things HQ does, even though they do a ton of other very important and informative things.

I play in Excel for days/weeks after the ball test releases it's stats. But then again, many would call me a bit strange and a nerd (I have worked in IT for 25+ years).

I'm just excited about it. 🙂

This is 1 test that makes me really excited! I love the data it gives and honestly enjoy playing different types of balls just to see the feeling, performance, and overall how they affect my personal gam.

its really funny to see how 2  balls can be close to the same spec yet perform so different on course with an average of shots

DRIVER  CALLAWAY.png.02d1ed01b3f95aaceb59b33edf1d6f2d.png Paradym Ai SMOKE MAX D w/ Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 65-R 10.5*

WOOD TAYLORMADE.png.c09940dc65e88df056ed8bc6fac5d992.png STEALTH 2 Plus 15* w/ Mitsubishi Kali Red 65-R 42" 15*

HYBRID CALLAWAY.png.02d1ed01b3f95aaceb59b33edf1d6f2d.png Big Bertha 19 w/ UST Recoil DART 75-S 20*

IRONS MALTBY.jpg.db763764d25fcfd7c75f92dc47028a09.jpg TS3 Forged 4i-PW w/ True Temper Score LT 100-R

WEDGES PING.png Glide Forged Pro w/ ZZ115-W 48-10*/53-10*/58-10/58-6*

PUTTER Cleveland.jpg HB SOFT 8 w/ Center Shaft 3*

Check out my Tests...

 

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I love the Pro v1x but too cheap to keep buying them so I play the Z Star Diamond. 

It’s pretty good and I use it because of MGS testing results. 

:titelist-small:  TSR 3  9.0  Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024

:titelist-small:  TSi 3  15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff

:ping-small: Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff /  :titelist-small: TS3  21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff

:Takomo:  4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023

:vokey-small: Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff

:vokey-small: Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff

:vokey-small: Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10  DG S200

:taylormade-small: MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff

image.gif.2bc8a27613a423a3721fd3b955802132.gif  Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35”  /  Pistolini Plus

 :srixon-small: Z-Star Diamond

 :titelist-small: Players 4 bag  image.png.939559f85230fe16347ecf2765438915.png    :redrooster:

 :Arccos: Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User

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I am very curious about the next round of ball tests. I saw an article on a different golf website that said to STOP using Titleist and TaylorMade balls. According to their "robot testing", they said Wilson and Callaway balls gave the best results. I did have good results with some Callaway balls that I used recently, but I've not hit a Wilson ball in years.

:taylormade-small: M6 clubs in the bag and a GARMIN Fenix 7 on the wrist!

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Love how you guys handle your balls.  These tests are always very well done, and I enjoy grabbing some of your recomendations and trying them for my self in the real world.  This past year I played a lot of ProV1s and Chrome Tours, Think I like the Cally's best for me.  Then my buddy talked me into trying some of the Titleist Tour Softs and I got really good results, and the ball was much more durable.  I would love to see you guys organize your results and say, here are the best balls performance wise regardless of price point, but then also give results for best performance for balls under $40... a lot of players out there are still interested in ball performance but just aren't willing to spend the big bucks on the top of the line balls.

Callaway Paradigm 10.5

Ping 425 3 Wood & 4 Hybrid

Ping i525 5-U

Vokey SM9 56 & 60

Bettinardi Queen Bee #6

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Anything new I cannot wait to see. Snell came out with a super scathing email in response to the "Do not play these" article so I am kind of interested to see how those perform since they said they fixed whatever issues were had when MGS tested.

I think it would be cool if MGS combined the testing with the ball lab but I suppose you can easily cross check. Anyway, I will have my popcorn ready regardless.

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  • Driver - Callaway Paradym X 10.5 - Project X HZRDS Gen 4 50
  • 3 Wood - Callaway Paradym X 16.5 - Project X HZDRS Gen 4 50
  • 5 Wood - Callaway Paradym X 18.5 - Project X HZDRS Gen 4 50
  • Irons (4 - P) - Srixon ZX7 - KBS Tour C-Taper Lite
  • Wedges - Srixon ZX7 51-08 KBS Tour C-Taper Lite; Titleist Vokey SM10 54-08 & 58-04 - KBS Tour C-Taper Lite
  • Putter - LAB DF3 Custom
  • Golf Ball - 2024 Titleist Pro V1X Left Dash
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2 hours ago, VernL4 said:

I've not hit a Wilson ball in years.

Ping's Ballnamic recommended the Wilson Staff as first choice for me (second was Callaway Chrome Tour then TP5x), so I tried all three. I am not good enough to tell any difference between them (and I spent a couple hours around the practice green with them, that's my first priority). I usually find the Wilson $5 cheaper than the others, so it's now my primary ball.

Moose, my cat, is Siamese

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On 10/17/2024 at 9:28 AM, Shrek74 said:

Am I the only one excited for the 2025 ball test? I realize it's probably 6 months away (or more), but I'm already excited to get all those details and stats and stuff from the test. It's one of my favorite things HQ does

I'm just excited about it. 🙂

 

... Such an interesting test and lots of value but again, just a starting point. MGS uses a specific standard for each swing speed. As an example, slow swing speeds are measured with something like a 12* head, regular flex shaft and a neutral AOA. Fast swing speeds will be measured with something like a 9* head, x flex shaft and a +2 AOA.

... I get those are probably close to what the average users are playing with those swing speeds but if you aren't using those parameters your performance could be very different. A slow swinger using a 10.5* head, with an A flex shaft and a -3 AOA may spin the ball off the tee much more than the robot using the standard testing driver. And if the slow swinger is playing a 9* head with a stiff flex shaft and a +3 AOA he may spin the ball much less than the robot. 

... If you have a baseline with the ball you play using your driver, it can help a ton. If the robot produces 3256 spin with a Kirkland V3 but you produce 2647 spin with a Kirkland, you can extrapolate the Maxfli Tour S that the robot spins 2782 has a good chance of spinning 400-600 less for your swing and at a slow speed, not enough spin to optimize your carry. 

... I love the MGS Ball Test and look forward to it while realizing it is just an average and a starting point. Knowing my ball preference and comparing the test to what I play is always interesting and fun! 

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Driver:     :taylormade-small:    Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:   :taylormade-small:   Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r
Hybrids:  :ping-small:        G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r 
Irons:       :taylormade-small:    P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r
                  :taylormade-small:    TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r
Wedges:  :taylormade-small:     MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:     :EVNROLL:     Custom 5.1 (no alignment)  33" 
Ball:          :taylormade-small:     '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X 

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I enjoy looking at all the data but agree that it's a starting point of what to look at/for.

 Titleist GT3 11* Tensei 1k blue

 Titleist TSR2 4w 16*

Titleist TSR2 5w 18.75*

 MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

 Vokey SM9 Wedges 50* 54* 58*

DF2.1 Putter

 

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I really enjoy the golf ball test! With so many ionomer 3 piece balls out now I wish they had that as a category. I know they don’t perform like the urethane balls but would love to see just how different they are plus I’m always searching for a deal on balls and these are typically much cheaper than urethane 

I have a cobra rad speed driver, cobra fly z 3 and 5 wood, PXG 0311 P Gen 7 irons (4-GW), 54&58 degree Sub70 246 wedges, Tommy Armour #2 wide blade putter. When I’m playing to keep score I typically play the Maxfli Tour X. When just getting a round in with friends or scrambling I play whatever I might find on the course or might find at the bottom of my bag.

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